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sina o toki!
Hello foreighnfag!
Let's take a trip to the magcal world of Toki Pona!
toki pona is a minimalist conlang with a vocabulary of around 120 words and roughly a dozen of grammar rules. It takes about an hour to start swearing and about a week to start swearing well in toki pona.
ITT, let's see if it is useable as a pidgin (one of the reasons it was invented for), excercise in semantical deconstruction (that's another reason) and translate boardspeak in toki pona!
Lessons: http://tokipona.net/tp/janpije/okamasona.php or https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Updated_jan_Pije%27s_lessons
Word list: http://tokipona.net/tp/ClassicWordList.aspx
http://sitelen-pona.herokuapp.com/
By popular request, all the rest of conlangs can be discussed here (although our conlang mastermind is asleep at the moment).
jan pimeja tu poki li sewi e linja ni
>>52173135
Please keep this alive. I must go to work.
>>52171899
Happy Zamenhof Day, Esperantoj!
I've started to learn this language.
sewi
>>52173135
ona li sama lukin jan Timati. ona tu li pimeja li jo e linja mute sewi oko ona.
taso mi sona lili e nasin pi kalama musi ni en pi toki musi ona.
>>52174883
Shalom, goyim!
>>52175014
Hey, France.
>>52175858
Hey Canada, long time no see!
>>52177125
How do you do, Chechya? May Allah be with you!
Ĉu aliulo ĉi tie alŝutis filmeton pri la #EsperantoLives movado?
For people who have learnt Esperanto, have you ever used it in real life in a practical application?
>>52177675
Wassaluton, fraton ĝi estas!
>>52179545
jan sewi li ilo tawa pi seki tu! kin li lon. jan pi mama mi o!
>>52179707
mi mute wile ala wile musi wawa e wawa musi Leskinka?
>>52177710
.uisai.o'asai go'i .i la .a,LAX. cu badri
>>52179545
>Wassaluton
tan wasa la!
>>52171899
E'e, 'nnui'si.
I've been trying to learn Mi'gmaq (Mi'kmaq, Micmac) but its quite difficult with no native speakers nearby to talk to.
Jipatm nnui'sin, muta maligamiten.
>>52181478
What a lang!
Give a learnbook, pls.
>>52182034
learnbook as in link to a good source for learning?
leran.migmaq.org is pretty comprehensive. Other than that i've got a bunch of physical texts and stuff...
>>52182275
or rather just migmaq.org
>>52182320
>>52182275
Got it, thx
sewi a lil
ca'e so'u moi lo se liste fa lo nunsnu .i coi tokpi'unpamama .i xu su'o da zo'u do te mukti lo ka casnu da .i mi na go'i ge'e
>>52187415
>coi tokpi'unpamama
toki!
mi sona ala e toki sina. o toki kepeken toki pona tawa mi! tenpo ni la mi nasa lili.
>>52187849
pakala! pakala! tenpo tu la mi toki e toki. en la, tenpo tu la, ijo pi lukin pi nasin Intene li pakala li pakala e toki mi! tenpo ni la, mi wile ala toki e suli.
>ri uzis mian bildon
ebin
>>52189146
jan seme li kepeken sitelen sina seme?
>>52173499
Feliĉan Zamenhof-tagon!
>>52189233
>33
nanpa pona
>>52177710
Mi ne jam decidis. Mi antaŭ faris videojn en Esperanto, sed me ni ege volas krei anglingvan videon. Mi afiŝis sur mian kronologion facebookan pri ĝi kaj jam sentas tre aŭtisma. Mi ete volas fari ĝin precipe ĉar mi estas ina...kaj esti ina en Esperantujo kiu povas bone paroli ŝajnas esti varbilo. Mi ne scias. Kiel mi diris mi ne tre volas paroli anglingve en filmeto.
>>52178912
I pretty much only use it online to chat with people for fun. But if I ever travelled to another country I would get in contact with any Esperanto speakers there beforehand and it's like 80% certain they would let me stay at their house or give me a tour of their city and help me out. I think I would also try that while travelling in the US because pic related. But really I have only actually contacted people in my own state because I'm not a big traveller, even though I want to be.
>>52189396
a a a pona :D
>>52188868
>ijo pi_lukin_pi nasin Intene
nasin toki ni li pona ala..
taso tenpo ni la mi wile ala toki e toki Losupan. tan ni: lawa mi en kiwen uta li pilin ike :/
>>52189698
>like 80% certain they would let me stay at their house or give me a tour of their city
Gxi estas plej bona de la lango!
(I dont speak it really, just have stared to learn)
Why only americans seem to want to learn esperanto?
>>52190162
This also confuses me. Maybe those lernantoj are mexicans, not white and proud ones? :D
>>52190139
*Tio estas la plej bona aĵo pri la lingvo
>I dont speak it really, just have stared to learn)
Well, I can already understand you.
Tenpo ni la, mi ken sona e toki sina. Mi kama sona e toki pona tan ni: linja pi toki pona mi musi.
>>52189928
>>52189928
[ijo pi [lukin pi [nasin Intene]]]
ken la toki Losupan li pakala e lawa mi!
>>52190162
>>52190348
I'm not sure why it's only Americans all over the *chans who speak it, but if you go into normie Esperanto forums the dominant nationality is Brazilian. I think people who come from large countries that generally speak only one language are attracted to it as a hobby because they don't actually need to study a different language and can do it just for fun.
Here is a chart of users from edukado.net which is a network of Esperanto teachers. Most are from France apparently, then Brazil, then US, then Hungary.
>>52190368
>linja pi tp li musi tawa mi
jan li unpa e mama pi ona sama la ni li musi tawa sina?
pona...
>>52190541
ni li lon: nimi "ijo" li pona ala. en la nimi "ilo" li pona. ni kin li lon: nimi "pi" wan li ken weka
>>52190588
>ujo
>ujo
>ujo
>ujo
>ujo
>Pollando
>ujo
>ujo
>ujo
>ujo
heh
>>52190541
>[ijo pi [lukin pi [nasin Intene]]]
(ijo lukin pi (...). ni li sama toki sina!
>ken la toki Losupan li pakala e lawa mi!
o kama jo e meli.
>>52190588
>Hungary
>88
I dont want to say smth nazist, but It seems kinda funny for me that Hungary is one of the leading countries there. I mean, I know that a hungarian supposed the Zamenhof Day to be, but in Hungary... there are lots of nationalists.
But maybe I'm wrong.
>>52190599
>linja pi tp li musi tawa mi
a! pona
>jan li unpa e mama pi ona sama la ni li musi tawa sina?
"Someone having sex with their mom, would this amuse you?"
Is that right? hahaha
>>52190639
>en la
... nimi ni li poka la mi sona e ni: ona li sitelen li sina! :j
Wie geht's /lang/ ?
>>52190912
I think in Hungary you can actually choose Esperanto for your language credit in university, so that might be why.
>>52190912
>o kama jo e meli.
a a a. jan ala li meli li poi'i mi pona tawa ke'a^W^W^W^W^Wjai tawa pona fai mi^W^W^W^W^Wtoki tawa mi
mi sona e ni: toki mi li ike mute mute mute. o moli ala e mi !
>>52191039
lon. lon. mi kute e ni: ona li pona ala tawa jan mute pi toki pona.
sin la, nimi "sin la" li pona ala kin. :^)
>>52190162
because learning English as your base language fucks your linguistic ability up
>>52191121
I wish I could do that way.
>>52191116
Das ist good enoght, my brüder, and quell is Vous?
>>52191261
ni la mi toki e ni: sin la en la sin la en la sin la en la sin la en la sin la en ante...
>>52191597
It's not English per se. You just don't really need another language (me neither BTW).
>>52194342
true
but we still don't understand the particles of our own Norman c u c k language
>>52195347
I really don't understand why a language has to have that much tenses, OK, you want 12 tenses or what have you, why keep them all coordinated? It was a short action while you were doing something in the past for a long time and it matters now and it's possible, you're not just speculating about it, oh fuck!
I guess for English speakers the whole declension thing makes no sense, too.
>>52196226
Declension and such make sense to me but it's a shit ton to memorize and would take me a fuck load of brain processing to analyze all the situational peculiarities that could fuck over a sentence.
Irregularities also kill me but without them a language looks and sounds bland. Such is the pain of a prospective language student
>>52173499
That's today?!
>>52182275
Fight the white oppressor, my friend.
>>52189146
Dankon!
>>52190162
Because we are a multicultural society instead of inbred monocultures.
>>52190717
Why is it not Pollujo?
>>52172917
>be german
>show a friend duolingo to learn german because they are american
>were talking over skype while eating breakfast
>tries to flaunt his deustch
>ICH BIN MILCH
fuck duolingo
>>52198049
DREH DICH NICHT UM!
>>52197895
Hey hands off Chuhna you Pindos. Inbred monocultures are pretty cool (unless redneck).
https://youtu.be/fmC8vi2_BAY
>>52198349
>DREH DICH NICHT UM!
*turns around*
*sees pic related*
i am in america after all
>>52198349
Somehow im suprised that I can understand most of that song
Btw what is esperanto supposed to do better when compared to other languages? It really lacks backround culture and usefullness
>>52198437
Dude these Turks in Berlin.
I wonder what this New Year is going to be like. 2012 (I guess), fuck I've seen plenty of them.
https://youtu.be/HVdwTFTfNeg
>>52198730
>4 minutes straight of a gay cockroach dancing around
what the fuck is this
>>52198659
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_culture
>>52198659
Well it seems to be a rip of Finnish TV show. Man, I've been to Ladoga lake this summer, it's just amazing. It's incredible, it's pure beauty.
As for Esperanto, it's very simple and regular. All nouns end in o. All adjectives end in a (this drives me mad though, I expect noun and adjective to be 'rhymed' in a way). The roots are mostly Romance. Learn corelatives and you can read it no problems.
>>52198814
Thats still not very much. Tolkien and star trek fans can do these same things with quenya/sindar and klingon.
Esperanto seems to be only for people who really like linguistics or don't like the status of english languages as the language of science and commerce.
>>52198766
This mein freund is Turkish pop music. Iike this one though, the only thing better than this is Kus Gunesi.
>>52199113
Dude, I wouldn't go there if I were you, really. Esperanto corpus might turn out to be larger than Kalevala (and written by the same Jews).
>>52199113
Esperanto culture is the world's culture.
Esperanto estas la pasporto al la tuta mondo.
>>52198049
That's his fault for using it on its own, its a good practice tool in combination with other methods.
On another note, could anybody suggest a good French phrasebook? Might be going to some French speaking countries soon but I am in the middle of learning German so I do not really want to start learning French properly right now.
>>52199525
As much as finnish is :^)
Once tried to learn ancient Greek, gave up after the first term...
>>52199553
> study French at school
> go to Paris
> remember what's French for 'excuse me', 'where is' and 'drugstore'
> not 'nearest' and 'operating this amazing Christmas night'
>fell for the Spanish meme in hs, grew disgusted by it
>tried German, failed
>tried French, again was disgusted
>tried Dutch, the people are assholes to foreigners and the resources suck
>learned the Russian alphabet but probably won't get further than that
kill me lads
>>52199857
You should just do it like we foreigners learned english. Just watch shit-ton of movies of the language of your choosing, put english on subtitles. Also, play games with that language.
>>52199964
> Oh wait, there are none
> Kurwa!
>>52200077
Thankfully he listed languages that are on every movie and game. Unless he wants lo learn faroese :)
>>52199703
But Finnish is landlocked to a single irrelevant country.
>>52200369
Well esperanto isn't landlocked to a single relevant or irrelevant country. Whats your point?
>>52200452
That is exactly my point. Esperanto is spoken everywhere. Finnish is only in Finland.
>>52200369
Esperanto is landlocked to a few autistic websites lmao
>>52200502
Im quite sure finnish is spoken globally by finns living in other countries.
Only difference with esperanto being that all these 7 million actually speak it as their native language. As long as there is a finnish nation people will speak finnish
Can someone translate this for me?
>Pour envoyer ce formulaire, n’entrez rien dans cette case, ceci est une mesure anti-spamm.
I can't figure out if I'm supposed to fill it or not.
>>52200771
For at sende denne formular, ikke træder noget i dette felt, er det en anti-spamm foranstaltning.
>>52200675
>by Finns
Esperanto is spoken by everyone.
>>52200863
Even by chinese?
>>52200985
Yes, especially the Chinese! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5uFAM15SDA
>>52201075
Oh my, why didn't nobody told me that all chinese spoke esperanto? I've been fooled to think that they have over 5000 different characters in one of their six major languages alone.
>>52198814
>Dear Wikipedia readers,
>We'll get right to it: This week we ask you to help Wikipedia. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We're sustained by donations averaging about $15. Only a tiny portion of our readers give. If everyone reading this right now gave $3, our fundraiser would be done within an hour. That's right, the price of a cup of coffee is all we need. We're a small non-profit with costs of a top website: servers, staff and programs. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park where we can all go to learn. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and growing.
>Thank you.
just fuck off like
/int/, tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'?
>>52201176
You're being deliberately stupid.
>>52201481
No, but I should learn.
toki! toki pona toki :D
>>52201481
blarghblarghblargh
>>52201539
>You're being deliberately stupid.
Why are you saying that esperanto is spoken by everyone? Get your gead out off your ass. This planet has 5000-7000 languages. You're preaching like fedoras, protestants and muslims.
>>52201662
not him but youre being deliberately dum
learn finnish: talk to mongols about sauna and mämmi
learn esperanto: talk to mongols who learned esperanto about sauna and mämmi AND talk to anyone in the world who learned esperanto
>>52201738
Shows something about esperanto learners when they ridicule other people and their languages, no wonder it has stayed as a cult.
>>52201843
i actually like finnish and finns and dont care much for esperanto but whatever tsingis
>>52201887
You did well Bob, you got us all
>>52201920
thanks
>>52200812
Which sounds retarded and non-sensicale in Danish. NVM though, I figured it out.
>>52201843
>cult
Mi ridas.
tenpo pimeja la mi lukin e ijo.
mi lukin e ni la mi ike mute mute! taso mi awen lukin e ni tan seme?
toki mute ni li nasa li ike tawa mi li pali e ni: lawa mi li jo e ala.
mi wile lape.
https://youtu.be/ENiNRZ7Hldk
>>52203019
>Old Chinese with tones
Tones are a pretty recent development in the Sinic languages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41fvrtPVUc
>>52199781
actually made me giggle desu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobaïan
>>52203684
pó pwo quo jù jl̂ qû gua spi̱? î jì gó pwo. ê ziu sù kquy vbṟ smû zduà
>>52204630
....You actually know gua\spi?
>>52204743
That's just the result of frantic searches through the dictionary. The grammar isn't that hard, though I still don't know of a non-clumsy way to do predicate connectives. I tried to actually learn the language a year or two ago but switched to Lojban after the community (3 strong) died.
>>52204978
Have you tried Loglan yet?
>>52205088
Not yet, but I'm tempted by the in-world texts written in it. The language itself turns me off though, as it seems to be just an incompatible Lojban with historical baggage (pauses between cmavo can be significant, woo!)
>>52205207
>in-world texts
What?
>>52205262
http://www.loglan.org/FVLNotes/
>>52205403
Lojban should totally do something like this.
هل أي أن شخص يتعلم العربي اللغة؟ لست
بخير في القواعد. أنا أتعلم آسف
>>52205669
http://www.alislam.org/quran/Holy-Quran-Esperanto.pdf
>>52171899
>il a appris une langue fausse
pourquoi?
also, does anyone know of a good french grammar book?
>>52206204
Ask reddit.com/r/LanguageLearning .
http://i.imgur.com/EJzUlPd.png
>>52206799
Tre amuza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf3oN4AsqDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMIV52DXSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_0GthYruIk
#EsperantoLives
>>52205669
اهلا يا صديقي! كيفك؟ انا مخبر في القواعد. ما اسئلتك؟
>>52208649
قد استجاب في وقتا مؤخرا بسبب احتاج الى الغسل في الحمام و للنام ايضا، عفوا بذلك، الى اللقاء غدا ان شاء الله
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7GOqki9vVE
>>52204107
Final exam for this language involves shotguns?
>>52200664
Kvino alta, ulo!
>>52201843
Reading through half of the string of you two disagreeing with each other was tiresome so I'm just gonna sahre this silly comic and also say that Esperanto is spoken in every country and part of the Esperanto "culture" is to welcome/invite random people from other countries to stay with you for Esperanto speaking and cultural exchange, which is probably what the American guy was trying to say
Now that Esperanto is 100+ years old and has enough speakers to be the size of one of the smaller national languages, plus some native speakers, its proponents have entered a major phase of bugghurt, like a preteen phase where nobody takes you seriously and you have little relevance but you feel grown up.
t. long-time esperanto speaker
Kial ĉi bildo de Chuck Smith ridigas min?
sewi o!
>>52218232
toki, jan Luso o!
sina pilin e seme e ni:
Kial vi ne parolas Esperanton, la internacian lingvon?
>>52210997
I giggled.
>>52212862
Learnu Volapukon! ^ ü ^
>>52220289
Lärnob Volapüki nu e böfob.
>>52220523
We need to do a Vocaroo thread for these languages. I'd love to hear them pronounced.
>>52220772
It's a nice idea!
I wonder how that Swiss guy will speak in gua\spi. Any way, it's interesting for me what toki pona sounds like with different accents.
