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why is your country such a polluter and have a disgusting carbon footprint
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uruguay are so gay. literally the sweden of the americas
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b-bad goys
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they do burn biomass which is a bit on the line with "clean"
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That's pretty guay.
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it's all a bunch of hot air if you ask me
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>picture of windmilles
>while majority of its "renewable and clean" electricity is in his country in fact from huge hydro power plants, aka forever flooded lands by water reservoirs

our country is not an empty wasteland able to be flooded, Pedro
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>>51797621
what the fuck should one do with all that useless rice husk
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>>51797402
Uruguay still contaminating our waters
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>>51797747
desu it's not much different from burning wood
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also
>installed capacity in Uruguay is 2,900 MW

that's what our one tiny nuclear power plant produce, lol, enjoy your shitty windmills
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>>51797402
>implying
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>>51797615
I hate to be the one to say this but RARE FLAG
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You're still buying products made with dirty energy
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>>51797873
>tiny
2900MW is a pretty ok power plant desu, our most common ones produce 3600MW
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>>51797954
This is a good point 2bh

Pic rel. is the UK's produced emissions (blue) which is what everyone talks about, but it's consumption emissions (acccounting for the emissions associated with imported goods) has actually risen slightly over the period.
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>>51797852
Burning wood in and of itself isn't that bad because you're only releasing as much co2 back into the atmosphere that the tree took out a few years ago. The problem with burning fossil fuels is that it releases co2 that was removed from the atmosphere millions of years ago, and our ecosystems have adapted to a climate with less co2 than from millions of years ago. But even that isn't the biggest problem about climate change (and it is changing, even the deniers only say it isn't man made). The problem with burning wood is the removal of the forests. Clearing forests leads to more land erosion, which can change the hydrology of a region to put an area at risk for floods or landslides and stuff, and also can lead to desertification. It destroys the homes of a lot of species, some that we depend on (like predators that keep pests in check, or birds that fertilize a nearby field with their poop). Clearing forests can also reduce transpiration and obviously they clean the air too (although the oceans do most of that). Additionally forests have a lot of genetic diversity, which is useful for making GMOs. So yeah burning wood is clean as long as the wood was harvested responsibly.
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>>51797402
Tell that to India and China
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>>51797886
Atom smashing is darn efficient, as long as you're not retarded regarding safety and waste. Too bad we have to get uranium from third world shitholes and ship it over here. We wouldn't have to give a fuck about stability in Africa.
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>>51797402
>75% of that electricity is hydrolic
>post wind turbines
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>>51797742
>is in fact from huge hydro power plants
but that's us
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>>51798446
Most non shit countries have organisations (private or public) eco-managing (litteral translation, here sorry) their forests.
France has never had as much woodland as right now on history for intstance.
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>>51798446
but biofuel is not burning wood but useless agricultural chaff from rice, sunflowers, etc.
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>>51797402
I love you guys. Uruguay is such a wonderful country. I hove to visit you or even move there one day. God bless.
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>>51798930
*hope
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>>51798760
And that's why climate change is mostly going to be a problem in shit countries. Like African countries letting Chinese companies do whatever they want to their environment while extracting resources and shit.

>>51798850
Same concept applies. All the co2 from that was taken out of the atmosphere recently. It would only be a problem if the agriculture was not environmentally friendly.
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Because carbon is important for our economy and we're not gonna let Jews take that away from us, you fucking spic.
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>>51799004
>ike African countries letting Chinese companies do whatever they want to their environment while extracting resources and shit.

Many are cracking down on that.

Also Bovines contribute a fuck ton to climate change
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>>51799290
Following that the amount of pollution poor countries emit are really fucking tiny but are affected most by climate change.
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>>51797402
94.5% is excellent.
If population density of Japan is same with Uruguay, it's possibly to have such a rate.
But there are too many peoples in my country.
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>>51798760
Fucking hell, in terms of energy France should be an example to the entire world yet people keep shitting themselves because "Muh Chernobyl ;__;". That was the most mismanaged fucking nuclear plant around, and all the other hundreds of nuclear power plants in the world never had an issue. Even fucking Fukushima, constructed RIGHT ON TOP A FUCKING FACTURAL LINE (literally the most retarded possible place to build a nuclear power plant) didn't meltdown.

The chances of the Netherlands flooding is literally greater than the chances of a properly managed nuclear power plant having a meltdown, yet nobody uses this as a reason to evacuate the Netherlands.
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>>51797402
Bravo Uruguay !
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>>51797402
Uruguay is basically a small town. You have no industry development at all so is pretty easy to achieve that
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>>51797402
Bravo Uruguay
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>>51799372
Of course, but as they develop their per capita emissions are rising, which I mostly why I used the future tense there. Also climate change is much more than just the emission of greenhouse gasses and I was trying to stick to more easily observable/demonstrable changes because I don't want this thread to get derailed by climate change deniers. Explaining that cutting down a forest could lead to more landslides/floods/etc and that it could enable a desert to expand is easier to explain than greenhouse gasses causing a more extreme el niño but less severe hurricanes in the gulf of Mexico and stuff.

>>51799290
They are making good progress for the most part, but they still have a long way to go and their growing populations are putting more pressure on their environment regardless.
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As long as USA and China keep fucking up the atmosphere your contribution is irrelevant.

It's literally like taking one drop out of an ocean of piss.
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Because we dont have a shit standard of living
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>>51797402
>94.5% clean electricity
>posts image of wind turbines
>in reality most of that power is hydro or biomass
Fuck the wind lobby
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>>51797615
>flag

wew the fuck
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>>51800216
To be fair, biomass would either look gross or like a regular industrial building of some sort, and hydro probably wasn't chosen because we've been using it since before the whole push for clean energy, so most people think a dam is just a dam and don't associate it with clean energy.
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>Not supporting a worldwide reform of taxation away from distortionary labour/income taxes onto market-correcting pigouvian fees on activities with negative externalities (i.e. emission heavy industry)

L M A O
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>>51800671
There needs to be a mix. When a factory owner doesn't own the river or body of water they're dumping their waste into, the market doesn't fix that and when their customers are on the other side of the world, they won't boycott until they stop polluting in some city they've never heard of. And when government completely shuts down the market, we're also doing away with the good things it does for the environment (like promoting energy efficiency, innovation of new technologies, etc).
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>>51797402
Yeah, disregard all the cows you have farting like there is no tomorrow.
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>>51797402
Wew nice. 94.5% in almost 2016.
Meanwhile France is at +80% since 40 years.
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>>51800671
>worldwide taxation
ew
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>>51800890
Of course, the taxes i'm suggesting wouldn't inhibit market forces any more than current income/consumption/employment taxes, in fact, much less.

They'd increase efficiency incentives.
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But Uruguay is tiny. Try doing this in a real sized country like Canada or the US
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>>51801451
Canada please, we are almost twice more populated than you like have said this guy >>51801226 we almost run with full clean energy since decades.
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>>51797402
Over 99% of the electricity production in Norway is by hydropower.
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>>51801451
We are a huge country and >80% of our electricity comes from renewable sources
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>>51801603
>>51801623
Hydro is a god like ressource. Swiss and Autria are almost 100% into it too.
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>>51797402
still triggered by the fact that we aren't, we need more windmills, our ancestors would be ashamed tbqh
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>>51801693
This. Hydro is best.


My entire province is powered solely by Hydro.
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>>51801790
>Coal 14,7%
>Diesel 0.2%
It's like you are not in 2015 dude. Do you want I call Justin ?
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>>51801859
It's Alberta's fault tBh
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>>51801363
>muh A level economics
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>>51801693
>>51801603

What happens to the fish and other aquatic life in the river?
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>>51802184
I don't know if there are fish in that place, but if it is then I my answer is "I have no idea"
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>>51801693
Just fucks up your rivers and lakes, but away from that, sure mate.
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>>51802050
>mfw I live right beside a nuclear power plant

STALKER wen???
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>>51797402
U R also Guay as Adam Lambert
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>>51802050
The last nuclear reactor in Quebec was closed 3 years ago
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>>51802184
It's totally fucked.
Fishing club throws in tons of fish every year just to get shitloads of fish shredded in the plants + no chance that any new could move back there/away from there.
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>>51801603
>tfw no 3 gorges dam

22 500 mw
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>>51802268
Good thing we have a lot of rivers and lakes to fuck up.
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>>51802184
The populations upsteam and downstream get separated, mostly.

I don't know what happens to fish that pass through the turbines or spillway, but I guess it's not that different from them passing through a waterfall.
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>>51802316
>Abandoning the Atom

gay
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>>51802345
Wow that's a big one.
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>>51802184
They have long "fish paths" around the dams, this one is for salmon.
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>>51800080
No one is willing to make sacrifices unlike some Arizonan who when he is at his home gun range outdoors covers a wide area in a white tarp just to pick up after himself once he is done and doesn't have an obsession with green lawns
Like even if the low to middle income countries become environment friendly because they were developed with that in mind that won't stop the more powerful countries from saying fuck that like China or the other powers like >>51800136 said
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because we're not faggy green leftshits
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>>51797402
jews and delusional green faggots
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I hope geothermal advances to the point where we can use it on a large scale. I'm pretty sure the west coast of the US could utilize it because of the tectonic plates. Eventually we could be using it to like power California, including desalination plants to provide water for all that ridiculous desert agriculture. There's be no risk of a nuclear meltdown (which is already not very likely with the most recent technology that'd way safer than Chernobyl era stuff, but voters are still scared of implementing it), no dams for hippies to complain about killing fish, no wind farms to intrude on the scenery, no solar panels that use minerals that are mined in an environmentally unfriendly way, etc etc. The only downside would be the water around the desalination plant would become too salty for plants/animals, but that's relatively minor in comparison to what we already do and who knows, maybe we could like build a pipeline to take it far enough away from shore to effect anything.
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>>51802345
Related documentary. I highly recommend it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbZy274cyk
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>>51797615
Lol who the fuck lives on a small shitty island?
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>>51802477
>tfw no american supersized sea temp power plant
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>>51802184
dams have passes for fish, they use lights or something
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>>51797402

italy is at the forefront of using clean energy
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>>51802477
>

Yeah for whatever my word is worth, it won't.

The future is nuclear, gas, and expensive renewables. Of course only China, Russia, and America are really going the nuclear route because we aren't ultra keked by the green lobby.

Germany fucked up their energy so bad that their total emissions even with 50% renewables were HIGHER this year than in 2008 when they started the program.
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Bravo Uruguay
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Because it's not tiny, irrelevant shithole in the asscrack of South America.
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>>51802402
>tfw you have so much clean energy that you can give some to Ontario
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>>51797402
We have a farm of these wave generators outside Gävle. They calculated that we could deploy a farm large enough to power Europe if they installed them in the Norwegian sea in a 10 x 10 km area.
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>>51802708
>

They don't work for big dams, and they still lead to large disconnects between the upstream and downstream population. Only the very best fish passes stop genetic population separation.

There's no free or "clean" energy. Just some that are relatively cleaner than others.
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>>51802864
f-forgot pic.
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>>51802439
>tfw I actually live in Arizona
It barely seems like I live in the desert lel. I mean I don't know how much water this specific landscape actually uses, but I still find it hilarious that I can live in this while California has a drought. Also my city is apparently really efficient with recycling water, which makes sense since our aquifer is running out and we don't get enough rain.
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>>51802812
>only China, Russia, and America are really going the nuclear route
France part of nuclear energy in the energtical mix is higher than USA and any other one country.
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uruguay is the estonia of south america
bravo!
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>>51802864
Surely that would be feasible...............

Why do people make these dumbass predictions?
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>>51802939
Yeah but that share is dropping because you haven't opened a new one since the 90's.
The share will decrease inevitably for the foreseable future.
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>>51799922
this
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>>51802939
Jealous of France. In the 70s the hippies of Sweden voted to ban all nuclear expansion and use (are reactors are on their death bed) but also any research on nuclear power. So we are stuck with old junk that is dangerous as fuck but can't switch fully to renewable as it's too expensive/not feasible right now.
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>>51803064
Stop spraying bullshit. The EPR, à new generation of nuclear reactor is currently is construction in Flamanville. And some other will be lauched right after.
Also, with the ITER program France is part of the leader for fusion reactor.
We are literally the nuclear republic.
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>>51803067
don't care about that.
we used to buy energy from you and now we are selling it to you.
top kek.
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>Italian Architecture
Imagine New York like this.
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>>51803064
>Yeah but that share is dropping because you haven't opened a new one since the 90's.
We're building a brand new EPR, and EDF plans to build 30-40 of those by 2040
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>>51797402
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>>51802121
>implying

it's time you did some reading mate.
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>>51803193
>but also any research on nuclear power
Oh wow
Why are hippies such retards
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>>51803459
They really wanted to make sure that we didn't keep any plants for research purposes, also made sure that the Swedish nuclear weapon program was terminated.
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>>51803267
>>51803391
>"opened"

The share's going down no matter how you slice it, baguettes. It will continue to go down until the amount of reactors you OPEN make up for the old ones you are retiring.
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>>51803852
>The share's going down no matter how you slice it, baguettes. It will continue to go down until the amount of reactors you OPEN make up for the old ones you are retiring.
Yeah no shit
Maybe it's why we're mentionning that new ones will be built in the next few decades
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>>51802838

why dont you stop polluting usa? youre ruining the whole fucking planet for everyone, useless lardshits
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>>51802437
this >>51802184 >>51802708

>>51802901
they use a fish elevator. i kid you not, here have a schematic from Yacyreta dam
http://www.eby.org.ar/img/varias/dibujotransferenciapeces.jpg
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>>51804218
Then don't say I'm wrong when you are wrong.

>>51804261
We don't care. Fucking drown Panamashit.
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>>51803193
If fusion ever becomes an actual power source (aside from the sun) we will instantly have a golden age.
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>>51799447
It's the same here. The proto-"greens" kicked up such a stink decades ago that we've just continued to burn coal almost exclusively until recently. This is despite having the world's largest uranium reserves, being tectonically stable and having fuckloads of uninhabited desert to store the waste.
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>>51804301
>Then don't say I'm wrong when you are wrong.
I didn't say you were wrong and I'm not wrong either, go fuck yourself
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>>51804269
Fish ladders do not permanently stop population genetic differentation caused by big dams. They only slow it down.

Three gorges dam has a bunch of fish ladders. Yet it still is considered to have killed three or four endangered species of Yangtze fishes.

Dams that matter still harm the environment.
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>>51804305
Until we all turn the free AC on and ruin the climate.
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>>51804405
Who is this then?
>>51803267
>stop spraying bullshit
If that's you, then you obviously were talking about me saying you faggots haven't opened a reactor, and ITS TRUE.
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>>51804494
>Who is this then?
Not me
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>>51804318
Greens are the worst people for human development.
They hurt the poor and they eventually hurt the environment even more as well.

If China listened to greens the place would be just as polluted and way poorer. Just look how fucked Germany's kek energy policy is.
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>>51802864
Because nobody wants to deal with handing control of geopolitics over to some random coastal nation.
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>>51804423
>chinese doing anything right
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>>51804556
Who is this
>>51803391

If that's you then okay. I still believe the share of nuclear power will go down, but that might just be getting replaced by renewables.
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>"THE EARTH IS LITERALLY BURNING UP, PEOPLE ARE BEING INCINERATED, SHUT DOWN ALL NUCLEAR POWER"
>"But we are way below the recommended emission line, why should we fill our lands with useless wind parks when we could just put a few more nuclear reactors?"
>"NUCLEAR POWER EXPLODES AND DESTROYS THE WHOLE CONTINENT, WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF ENERGY JUST POWER ALL OUR FUTURE ELECTRIC CARS WITH WIND PARKS THAT PRODUCE A TENTH AS MUCH AS OUR USUAL NUCLEAR PLANTS"

Sweden energy politics in a nutshell. Just kill me, JUST.
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>>51804635
>2+2 is different in China because they can't do things right

A fish ladder is a fish ladder no matter where you are.

But the change of the river to high flow shallow water near the front of the dam, and low flow deep water behind the dam fundamentally fucks up the ecosystem even if they can climb the ladders.

Hydropower also leads to problems downstream with sediment and coastal degradation.
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>>51804802
>swedish breeding policy

Which one is worse?
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>>51797402
Because my country is not a meme country. I mean what the hell does Uruguay produce?
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>>51804620
Nigga Beijing's air quality is the worst in the wrold by far. They need some green policy at least.
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>>51804705
>>51804494
>>51804301
God damnit, what's wrong with your brain you fatass ? We, French trying to explain you that our politician will preserve and maintain the part of nuclear in the French energitical mix by extend life of current nuclear power plants and by building other like EPR which is currently in building. Our new construction in renewable energy will replace the rare % of natural gas plant and will be used as ajustable variable when the need is suddendly higher because of nuclear can't be just pushed like that.
But you still acting like a retard "muh I have right you have wrong" when you don't even know the politic of our country. Fucking autism I swear.
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>>51804901
Energy. The only reason Norway isn't fucked up is because of Hydro power.
And we are still fucked in the long run because liberal energy politics means we export to kek everyones prices inland for no gain.

Sweden at the least had a chance until they got ruined.
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>>51802926
I feel as though I've seen that exact place a million times.
Though the whole shithole city looks very much alike.
Is tjat somewhere in north east phoenix / Scottsdale?
Along Lincoln dr maybe?
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>>51806435
It's near Shea and the 101.
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>>51807737
Ahh I see, used to live very close to there actually.
Goddamn it I hate that whole metropolis. Glad I left.
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>>51802184
this
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One of the few things that the leftards in the government have done right.

We used to be around 60% hydro and the rest for burning oil, the worst was during droughts when we had to import from Argntina or Brazil. Now wind and biomass made us almost self-sufficient and at this rate we'll reach 100% and become a net energy exporter.

This could happen in Uruguay because it's a special case: Very low population density (198th in the world) and a particularly windy country due to our position in the Atlantic.

Besides that there is a state monopoly on electricity that makes contracts with the investors for decades (very hard in a more unstable private market) to ensure their energy is bought so it makes it an extremely safe investment, almost like buying bonds. Foreign investment in green energy in Uruguay skyrocketed. Not to mention that we are a very stable country and that all political parties signed an agreement to foster green energy investment.

It was like a perfect storm for renewables.
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>>51804831
>2.01 + 2.27918355962 equals 4 because the chief engineer appointed by the Party said so, now hurry up and finish building it, we're behind schedule. sleep? what sleep?
it's more like that, i'm afraid

>Hydropower also leads to problems downstream with sediment and coastal degradation
oh yeah this is a good fact i didn't take in account. no matter if the river flow remains big enough, the change in force fucks up the bottom sediment and therefore the whole ecosystem
it really is enviroment reshaping, "clean energy" or not
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>>51811004

Going from an oil and energy importer and being dependent on international prices and good rains for our dams to a net exporter and being self-sufficient was by far the best.

A drought with high international prices of oil could cripple the economy for that year.
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>>51797402
we have to produce the stuff that generates the "clean" energy
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>>51800669
>To be fair, biomass would either look gross

So?

Make a leaflet showing it saying "See all this shit you produce? We BURN it for clean energy. Aren't we smart? You're welcome."

Why are people such pussies?
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>>51802474
greens are the reason my country pollutes so much!

are you sick in the head?
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>>51800890

You are full of shit. When british factories ruined nearby apple orchards people took them to court. But the state decided that they wanted the tax income from the factories, so the apple orchard owners got nothing. Lack of regulation is not the reason corporations get away with this shit, it's been common law for centuries. Anyway, that river shouldn't be public, it should be private property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLirNeu-A8I
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>>51803554
>swedish nuclear weapons program was terminated

how is that bad?
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>>51811902
Well that's one option, I don't know how well it'd go over with the average person compared to what they actually put out though.
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>>51812228
>we should privatize national parks

I've heard it all. Libertarians deserve to be put in front of a wall and shot.
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>>51812850
c*nadians first
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>>51798549

Where does France get its uranium? Kazakhstan I assume?

We are our own supplier, but our government is so bought out by Big Oil that we don't build new reactors, so it's basically all just sold off or stockpiled, with the exception of the Ontario reactors.
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>>51801595

>Populated

When he said huge, I'm certain he mean country size, not population.

When your country is huge, and your population is scattered among that space, it's extremely hard to get high clean energy use because you have to build a shitload of windmills or nuclear plants all over since the grid can't distribute energy that far.

Add that to having a rigid north where hydroelectric is basically impossible and you've got issues.
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>>51812228
>You are full of shit.
No need to get so hostile.

>When british factories ruined nearby apple orchards people took them to court.
AFTER the damage had been done, and the whole world is not Britain. Industrial pollution is a problem even now in other countries because the government does little to nothing to stop the polluters.

>But the state decided that they wanted the tax income from the factories, so the apple orchard owners got nothing.
Not a very convincing narrative. Most of our agriculture is owned by huge corporations that have enormous lobbying power, just look at how much they get in subsidies.

>Lack of regulation is not the reason corporations get away with this shit, it's been common law for centuries. Anyway, that river shouldn't be public, it should be private property.
What's the problem with a reasonable amount of regulations. If we have a law that you can't dump more than x amount of y chemical in a river in a month, and a totally free market is not bad for the environment, well then the factory owner wouldn't notice the regulations because he'd never pollute above the safe level anyways. Worst case scenario is that we spent money on a few government employees to check up on compliance so that people don't get poisoned BEFORE the market corrects the mistake.
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>>51813183
Niger I think.
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>>51805058
http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/14/news/economy/india-delhi-air-pollution/
This Indian city has the world's worst air
April 14 NEW DELHI
While the world has grown accustomed to images of near-apocalyptic pollution in Beijing, the world's worst air can be found some 2,400 miles to the west.
In 2014, the World Health Organization measured air quality levels in 1,600 cities around the world, and the Indian capital city of New Delhi was found to have the highest concentration of particulate matter smaller than 2.5 micrometers, also called PM2.5.
The city's average PM2.5 level was a whopping 153, compared to 14 in New York and 56 in Beijing. The WHO's safety threshold for humans is 10. PM2.5 particles are not visible, but they go deep into the lungs, and are more likely to cause chronic health problems.
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>>51802184

They're fucked. Hydroelectric is purely positive for carbon output. They might as well be coal as far as environmental damage goes.
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>>51805123
The share of nuclear energy is going down no matter what you say.
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>>51802569
Niggers
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>>51802563

>Skip into the video
>See this

What the fuck. You sure this is about 3 Gorges?
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>>51813593
>They're fucked
except they aren't, unless they're from a highly sensitive species
in such cases that species gets relocated... or that's what our enviromental engineers claim they did
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>>51813729
Hahahahahahaahahah

Nigger I've told you before it doesn't work like you think.
Dams fuck up the ecosystem no matter how many fish ladders you put in place.
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>>51813572
>PM2.5
Interesting.
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>>51813722
Read the description Mr. Yung.
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>>51813838
>poland
>north Italy

Beijing tier.
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Hydro power fucks up nature. It's dirty and backwards as hell.

t. Living in a 100% hydro energy town
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>>51797402
'tis easy when you only need enough power to get a radio going.
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Nuclear power is the ultimate example of a self fulfilling prophecy.

The public is scared of it because it went boom in Ukraine 30 years ago because retarded Russian design and retarded safety design in Japan 5 years ago, they lobby to ban construction of new plants. New plan ts get banned, old ones start to age and thanks to not being allowed to build a new one, and progress in nuclear technology being stifled by these people, these aging reactors eventually kick the bucket in the worst way possible and then the public says "Look, we told you. It's unsafe!"

Sometimes I wonder where we'd be in the cold war never spread innate fear of the word "atomic" into 2 generations of people.
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>>51797402
We use a lot of water.
The dam in the video is in Verzasca, Ticino
https://youtu.be/mSvuHSqqGSw
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>>51813809
...grow stronger fish
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solar and wind is super gay. only thing that could stop them from being so gay is better battery technology.
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>>51813593
>Hydroelectric is purely positive for carbon output
How?
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>>51814415
>inb4 "trees get underwater"
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>>51797402
>Expensive/low output system is good
>"carbon" is a polutant
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>>51813838

What happens in Poland? Mordor?
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>>51814484
probably coal. Germany told them to stop, but I think that just made them even more inclined to use coal.
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It's too expensive and we don't have enough clay.

We're building windmill parks at sea, but they say it costs more energy to produce and maintain than that they will ever produce.
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>>51814107
Nuclear power is retarded because high grade Uranium is very rare and insanely expensive, Nuclear Power Plants take decades to come online and they are by far the most expensive form of energy.

If the US was powered 100% on nuclear the globe would run out of usable Uranium in 15 years estimated.

Renewables are the future I have no fucking idea why STEMlords and right wingers seem to have this insane hatred of essentially free energy and energy self-sufficiancy.

If the money that was given to coal and oil was given to renewables, we would probably have a fucking orbital Solar array by now.
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>>51814727

And because of people with your retarded mindset, nuclear technology never advances, we can't make more efficient reactors to use less, or alternate source reactors, and never fusion.

Self fulfilling.
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>>51803366
>Imagine New York like this.
>Imagine all that shrapnel falling 50 stories onto the street below next time we get hit with a hurricane
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>>51814727
Thorium plants dont get to be developed because of lackof funding from anti-nuclear shit.
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>>51798549
should buy it from us 2bh
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Uruguay also has maybe five or so people living in it
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>>51814727
Wind is free, that means wind turbines are cheap to maintain too :^)
Sunlight is free, that means electrovoltaic panels are efficient and cheap to maintain, also don't worry about storing energy for nighttime :^)
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>>51797402
great job uruguay
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>>51814964
Suarez lives in Spain, Cavani in France, so.... who?
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>>>/diy/911008
>>>/sci/7695752
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>>51814107
Back before Chernobyl - Three Mile Island caused Jimmy Carter to place a ban on construction of new nuclear reactors in the US which is still in effect.
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>>51798543

>offshore manufacturing to asia
>LOL LOOK AT THE POLLUTENS IN ASIA?!?!

Enjoy breathing the air in Mexico City.
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>>51814760

Nuclear has had over 50 years to get good, yet it is clearly not economically viable; if it were, we woudn't even be having this discussion. As it is, it's likely just a spoiler distraction to shit up actual renewable discussion.
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>>51802050
Coal is actually not as bad as peoplw make it out to be 2bh
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>>51820653
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35026363
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>>51797402
Powering six lightbulbs with a pedal bike isn't an accomplishment.
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>>51819374
Look at how badly we've fucked up the NBN and you get an idea of how unattainable a power reactor would be even if we wanted it- training a whole generation of specialist engineers, constructing a plant to an acceptable quality, structuring investment or government funding so that the whole thing didn't become a clusterfuck...
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>>51798543
India and China are investing billions in nuclear, wind and solar energy, go figure
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>>51813572
beijing still beats Delhi in pollution desu
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