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>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”
/ic/: "i draw korean is easiest" -Anonymous No. 2515707, 05/08/16
flowers are hard, who's got some flower tips
>>2531082
Draw them until they're easy
>>2531092
dang, the answer i didnt wanna hear
ok
>>2531082
Use a reference ya dum cunt. People don't innately know how to draw shit.
Would love some thoughts on >>2531005
I'm not too happy with the way I've render previous pieces and would like to try something a little different, anyone have suggestions on stylized shadows that would fit the drawing?
>>2531176
She looks alright to me, there's not that much picture, why not render it twice and see which looks best?
>>2531058
>>2531200
are you even trying
update..
Are the eyes fixed?
I need to work on hands that's definitely clear. What else? Also for some reason I never have ideas for poses. My art also looks really stiff all the time. Suggestions for how to make it not look so blah? Gonna go back and read some Loomis now that I got spare time, but still.
>>2531200
keep working on your art. you are blessed with a signature style, something 99% of the people here dont have.
>>2531243
>loomis
wrong book brahs, try vilppu
>>2531266
Will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
>>2531266
What's the pros and cons of Loomis in comparison to Vilppu
>>2531214
Personally I think all of her "face" (eyes, nose, mouth) needs to be moved up. Since you're going more towards realism it just looks like her face is super squat.
>>2531282
loomis is good for general construction, anatomy etc, rather easy to understand too but they're really stiff
vilppu on the other hand is a bit harder to swallow but good at dynamics
>>2531176
Your OC is adorable and your lines are lovely as always. Not sure on how you should shade this, but the way her bangs fade 'into' her scalp makes it look like she's got an extremely short forehead and that's the start of her hairline.
sheep drawing from today
>>2531058
How do I started onto the road of stylization?
I want to be able to draw cute waifus for others since people love fan art, but I have a problem seeing with anime stylization in contrast to life which I learned from Keys to Drawing. Life is easy for me to see, but there's just something about anime that throws me off. It might be because it's so simple. I don't know really.
welp
Why i'm trying hard angles...
>>2531243
drawing beans helped me a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0660Fuih7qo
>>2531359
Anon your style is perfect
I really love your art
>>2521026
Got a stream, mate?
Learning how to draw multiple characters
Perspective is all over the place
This was a ton of work but i hope its a step in the right direction!
>>2531359
Are you working on a sheep-related project or whats up with all these sheeeeeeep
>>2531681
i started working full-time recently and i was finding it hard to stay motivated after getting home at night. instead of having to think "what should i draw tonight?" i just decided that i'm going to do one sheep illustration a day. i haven't really been pushing the characters design-wise or conceptually, but i want to start doing that soon.
>>2531619
thanks man
>>2531082
I once had to draw a ton of plants and flowers for an internships. They are easier than humans now for me.
>>2531359
Brilliant! Always enjoy your sheep.
Have you considered doing the vertical lines on the poles and doors without them being perfectly straight?
This caught my eye because the top of the angled glass is free-hand, but then it's connected to poles that look like they're done with a ruler. Just stuck out a bit, not sure if that matters.
The works by MattiasA come to mind, if that helps. The whole aspect of drawing without using perfectly straight lines.
![67893386688e9e7368b1ff389ac0b16f[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TrKSPkD.png "67893386688e9e7368b1ff389ac0b16f[1].png")
>>2531671
Love the concept
and love the loli on the left
you could step it up learning how to draw "anime pretty hands"
>>2531962
they literally have one phalanx paralized
Morty jr.
>>2531955
Thanks for posting that.
Do you have any other anime books I should look up?
>>2532071
the 2 tutorials come from
"Moe chara no jouzu na kakikata"
E moe kyara no kakiwake (you can find it as "Drawing moe, basic and advance techniques)
also found 萌えスタイルの描き方 pretty useful
i hope you are not seeing me as pretentious
I still lack the skills you have and i really liked your style and wanted to say the only thing that bugged me a little
>>2532094
Im not the guy you originally replied to but thank you none the less.
>>2531955
That fucking hand pose.
It's literally everywhere.
>>2531082
if this is yours its pretty good
probably not since you are not reciving any compliment
>>2532140
It is his art. He's posted his stuff numerous times.
Any thing I need to fix before I color it?
>>2532094
Hi B1
Thanks, i lkke my loli demon as well c :
Thanks for the hand tuts, ive felt my hands get the job done but aren't pretty, ill try to work on them
>>2532140
yeah it's mine, and thanks
still having lots of trouble rendering hair, but i do like how the torso came out in this picture in general
>>2532292
You got a tumblr anon?
>>2532152
Yes, the ribcage/tits. Think "over the surface", think about where the skin stretches (hint: the right tit is too much in front, when you take into consideration the position of the right arm). Also the right hand is fucked. generally your proportions are fucked too. It's a good idea anon, just slap some refs together and fix some of the mistakes.
>>2532295
godsh0t.tumblr.com
A dood, lost motivation halfway and I hate drawing digitally lately, wish I had a cintiq and better brushes
a black and white quicky because why not?
>>2531359
another sheep, altho this one is more goat-like
>>2531712
thanks!! i totally did consider it, and i knew it looked kinda iffy, but drawing straight lines freehand on my tiny tablet is a real hassle, lol. maybe in the future i'll draw over top the straight line so it doesn't look quite so robotic!
i'd never heard of this guy before, but his stuff is actually really cool! thanks for the rec, anon
>>2532335
Excellent. Blog.
>>2532460
get lost
>>2532152
She looks stiff. Use her shoulders more, rotate her torso in different directions. (upper body towards the viewer, lower body away, etc.)
Her right hand pose makes no sense, it looks like it's convulsing.
Your problem seems to be that you are so preoccupied with sculpting the three dimensional shapes, that it makes your drawing loses its flow, dynamism and body language.
>>2532416
Those perfectly horizontal bottoms of the hooves are pretty distracting to me, since the rest of the image seems to have more depth to it.
>>2532460
git gud
>>2532460
rokujuukyuu69.tumblr.com
>>2531655
Yeah, picarto.tv/Magister
i stream pretty often lately
>>2531082
flowers are really cock, I just spend a really long time on them specifically until i think they look less trash
>>2521026
i finished this set but it's been so many months since i finished the madoka that you can see the differences in how i color haha...
>>2532292
What's the tits triangle thing you do for the beasts?
>>2531551
extra for the lulz
>>2532649
Oh huh you probably mean the artist vs art thing right?
I sat in front of a window, I'm your regular white person really, not super fair
>>2532648
The basic idea is getting the distance between the nipples and the top of the sternum (roughly where the clavicles meet the sternum) to be equidistant-- if you look closely, I actually draw these horizontal lines at the bottom two corners of the triangle to represent where I think the nipples approximately are (something I picked up from a friend, "it's a lot easier to draw inverted nipples in the rough and then turn them into regular nipples later").
It's maybe not particularly useful in a frontal pose like this but it does help me figure out planes of the of the breasts and orient them in perspective properly in more complicated poses.
I think at the point in the rough too I was undecided on whether I'd have the nipples come through the clothing like some artists like, but I decided against it.
>>2532665
where are the hands/10
>>2532712
Undrawn one is going on her hip (I just started the shoulder as you can see), still messing with the other side to see what would make sense from that angle. My sketch for that side got all messed up as I adjusted the body in final
something fast i did on the spur
Saw something commenting on how nobody created something about popplio and sylphy and there is it
the popplio wants to die tho lol
>>2531058
>>2531286
I agree, actually.
>>2532633
>Mami
>green eyes
>Homuhomu
>blue eyes
>>2532790
Pay more attention to that forearm and hand.
>>2532790
I think her right arm should be partially visible.
wish me luck, going over this shitty sketch
How am I fucking up this badly
>>2532944
It's definitely artistic license, but it's not too far fetched given in some lighting situations Mami's eyes become a dull greenish yellow and for Homura they become a blueish purple gray.
I don't know why this is so hard. The only time I can do a 3/4 anime face is if I trace it. If I don't it just continues to come out retarded. I can draw a human face easier than this.
>>2533446
Ditch symbol drawing mate. Read the Sticky and find Loomis
>>2533457
Well in terms of symbol drawing at least for doing actual humans, I think I have gotten past that. As for trying to draw anime stuff I guess not so much.
>>2533467
Symbols apply to everything
>>2533446
Head is a 3D object. Visualize it m8 instead of just following the contour. Look at an actual human face and realize that no amount of stylization can excuse the sharp angle you keep drawing around her chin.
Thumb still feels wrong but meh.
>>2533521
The direction for shading is inconsistent and incomplete in some parts.
>>2533521
Why is it necessary that we're seeing mumei's panties? I don't think she even wears panties.
>>2533783
Wow I love this if that's yours.
>>2533794
yeah, i mean, youre only supposed to post your own work, right?
>>2533801
I'd be genuinely surprised if that artists actually posts here
>>2533817
idk how to prove to you that that's actually mine other than to say so
but then again idrc either lol
>>2533783
blog? asking unironically
>>2533783
blog? (i'm not that one troll I swear)
>>2532525
you're right, not totally sure what i was thinking when i made that design decision! definitely something i'll keep in mind.
>>2533783
Blogerino.
>>2533834
>http://www.allisonperryart.com/
yeah that's too professional to even be dealing with the likes of this board; I don't beleive you, sorry.
>>2533837
i recognize a bunch of the stuff at the bottom though
>>2533837
wait nevermind I've seen your older stuff before
>>2533521
alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Drawing%20the%20Head%20and%20Hands.pdf (specifically head)
slideshare.net/eme2525/burne-hogarth-dynamic-figure-drawing (specifically torso)
>>2533847
Im not trying to be a an asshole, but I own and have read cover to cover that loomis book. What specifically is wrong with it?
>>2534058
too thicccc****
>>2533834
Great stuff!
>>2534058
cute
>>2531200
blog?
>>2534058
not thick enough
>>2534058
Reminds me of those European pseudo mangas that I've seen.
i tried drawing again...
drawing multiple characters and keeping them in perspective is difficult
but thats what i'm trying to practice
the loli showing her butt looks wrong but i can't fix her : o
>>2533792
I think you know the answer to the first question already.
>>2534120
I'm not sure whether or whether not to take that as an insult
>>2534293
It's neither compliment nor insult. Just an observation based personal impressions.
>>2534235
Oh man, this is the stuff.
>>2534334
this looks pretty bad sumisumi
that looks more like a print of a bloody hand
whats up with those lower back muscles
and that face, generally you cant twist it that much, at most the tip of the nose should touch the countour of the cheek
you cut the legs in an odd place
what is hse leaning against ? define it more
overall ii think you could have played a bt more with the position of the viewer, maybe a shot from below the horizon line to show the bruise better
back at it again at krispy kreme
>>2534344
oki will try to fix
>>2532800
Dat ass. Try going for smaller paint strokes next time.
Really work out the finer detail.
how is shit going?
>>2534461
u ddint sold me on the axes blade. something werid there.
u sure the shoes should be that big ? you could crash a dragon skull with those.
>>2534461
hands suck balls. add soft shadows to properly describe form. some people like the aesthetic of only having hard shadows but differentiating soft and hard shadows really adds a layer of complexity and believability to your work. and it allows for your forms to read really accurately even when you turn off every layer except for the shadow pass.
>>2534474
thx, will try those hues
I wanna try softening edges, you did it quick and pops out of my brain, but not for now, keeping it lazy-styl kek
Just some Overwatch junk(rat).
>>2534058
Nice Dva
>>2534461
Not bad at all, man.
>>2534474
Don't take this as I didn't cared about your criticique, I'm saving it and will try all that, but on this work can't do a different process for one piece :8
>>2534474
im not english and im breaking my brain trying to translate this..because i need to understand it
>Saturate the fuck out of tiny bit Before TERMINATOR (?!) to get that krenz-effect
What that terminator-part means? And what is a krenz-effect?
>>2534474
Lets say you have a warm light and a cool shadow would you make the terminator warm, cool or find a color in-between?
>>2534554
Usually it is warm. It's either the result of SSS in skin and stuff or is caused by photography with bad exposure which clips out the lights and washes out colour except near the terminator.
not happy for the hands
but meh
>>2534235
Fix those gestures fampai. Kim Jung Il uses boxes to help with perspective. Try it out fampai
Oh and anatomy
>>2534585
When are you going to start drawing lewds faggot.
>>2534616
already did
>>2534620
lol im getting you banned right now you degenerate.
>>2534629
she is totally on legal age she got tits u don't see?
>>2534620
those are some big balls
>>2534620
atta boy.
>>2534058
the perspective of her boobs looks like youre under her but her hips look like its a frontal shot. not to mention the hand on her hip has really weird placing compared to her arm
>>2534729
yh thats what perspective does, you muppet
>>2534740
you dont know what youre talking about
>>2534620
MOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>2534646
HOLY SHIT
>>2531286
it reminds me of some of the designs for the kids in zelda tp
>>2534912
>doesn't use box thing
>can draw cute anime girls
What...
I need to work on drawing cute mongirls then if these fundamentals are holding me back
>>2534912
>namefags
>liking shitty artwork enough to ask for blog
Monster Grill commission
>>2534936
It irks me that the guy doesn't look as good as her. Ruins my immersion.
>>2534938
commissioner never specified type of guy really aside from age.
So I just went with "christian fucboi nerd"
>>2534941
I still don't understand how gestures help.
>>2534949
in my experience, they help me get faster poses and keep proportions in check
idk if i'm using them correctly tho
>>2534784
baka desu senpai
>>2534983
Monthly /ic/ magazine when?
i hope you guys wont mind this being here
>>2535006
rinfag?
that's neat
>>2535068
i know its obvious, still i think something good may come out of trying to hide things and failing,
>>2535072
yeah, you get called out on it and stop trying to fucking hide things
get gud mspaintfag
>>2535072
Yeah, you'll learn how dumb it was. Good thing we're here to stop you earlier than that and lead you on the right path.
>>2535075
oh boy..
anon, i've been screaming at him to learn to actually draw for months now. He actually started drawing people instead of random ass shapes and stupid spoopy bird men but still posts the same stupid shit with little improvement constantly
>>2535052
Is this some abstract art
>>2534936
Bad perspective and anatomy. I dig the subject though
>>2535183
explain further
>>2535006
gj rinfag
Just got back at this drawing thing after some years dealing with some carpal, It's amazing how bad at drawing stuffs you can get and how much you can forget after some years of no practice, that aside rn trying to get the hang of my tablet, also shitty hands, colors and everything I guess. Can I get a critque on my overall wip? still working on it in short intervals because my hands want to die. Thanks.
>>2534945
I don't think anon was talking about physical appearance...
>>2534354
Love your stuff.
Also symbols in eyes always fucking gets me.
>>2535548
How long you been drawing?
>>2535549
started seriously on january 2016
(My lvl when i started)
Before that i just doodled on high school tables, and finished high school 6 years ago
>>2535551
I have high hopes for you.
>>2535536
appreciate it bud, glad u like it
>>2534740
>>2534780
>>2534759
Yes there would be perspective involved, but given the foreshortening and angles of all the rest of the forms the boob's perspective is in fact wrong.
Pic related is roughly what you would get if you kept the same eye level as that picture.
Just drawing a concept on my phone with a stylus. What do you think guys.
>>2535650
Cute
>>2535645
you're right but the only thing I have to add to this is that what they were going for could make sense for a fish eye perspective
however, there's more issues going on here than just a simple "it's fish eye" will fix, really everything below the breasts don't make a lot of sense and don't read as proper volumes in the perspective
your suggestion is definitely an answer to fixing this picture but there's more than one right answer for these sorts of things; judging by picture it looks like they were shooting for a more extreme angle so I'd probably go for a lower, wider angle lens to get the dynamicism they were looking for
>>2535652
Thanks
>>2535087
Don't waste your breath anon, he has been here for years shitposting his "abstract art". Sadly too many anons complimented him on it and motivated him to keep drawing random nonsense
>>2535650
Problem with her right shoulder. Look near the neck / below the chin, this isn't right. Because of this her right boob also looks off.
>>2535006
make a gif, transform whats already there to make her alive, fking do it
>>2535650
see, this weeb thread is much nicer than the draw thread
Guys, let's make a "group photo" with some characters!
just draw em in png and ad them to the group!
Bonus if interacting with other characters (For example you can push or play some prank on my loli, just be sure to tell if you are interacting with someone else's character so nobody else do it)
People i really want in this pic:
Nosebro
The sheep guy
And the ika musume anon
>>2535852
why would you ever want to be associated with nosebro
>>2535856
he helped me a lot getting started
>>2535852
I'll participate. I'm drawing it rn.
>>2535860
You realize hes an idiot asshole who parrots everything he sees and cant draw for shit right?
>>2535852
I'm done. Sorry if It needs to be colored.
>>2536129
Made him slightly bigger.
>>2536148
Sorta. I don't update my tumblr much.
I do have an instagram.
http://ketteiii.tumblr.com
https://www.instagram.com/ketteii/
>>2536159
No worries I know how much effort it can be to update blogs haha
But fuck that tumblr description, you draw with a mouse? That's pretty crazy, keep it up man love it.
>>2536165
Yea, I'm just overall lazy to update anything other than my instagram. So i'm not completely dead.
Thanks! I appreciate it. Glad that you like what you see! Takes a bit of time with a mouse but Its pretty fun.
>>2536139
It should be transparent png so others can add stuff but gj
tfw you enjoy doing faces, but doing everything else is just pain
>>2536191
I assume these guidelines or whatever are just byproducts of sketchiness.
>>2536201
When the day comes, i'll chop of my hands and live as stump the grump.
I still feel like i need to find a good medium between stylized and realistic, I don't think i wanna go full on stylized or anime ya feel
>>2536198
up line is random form to mark neck shadow lel
mid line is for future clothing thing
bottom is just to make it read fit, even if there's no edges there I don't care, sometimes I do it to make it more readable
pic as example
>>2536191
Face is the worst part here
>>2536221
As long as you know what you are doing, it's fine. And you seem to do.
>>2536222
the 100% frontal is cheap as my budget :')
what do you see wrong tho?
>>2536219
study some mangaka who do more realistic styles, i cant give you examples because im not helpful
are they supposed to be falling?
i would say study before you try to find a style,
your colors are kind of bad, your understanding of the face is pretty bad, and the hair looks like poorly styled 5 dollar party wigs.
im gonna break down those each of those points
if you're going to color your art, study color theory pls. also, look at yourself in the mirror. the face is so colorful, you aren't just off white with darker off white, certain parts of the face have blue tones, some are red, or even yellow. it can be very subtle or very defined, just know those tones are there. using the same hue at different values gives skin a very, very corpse like look.
second, i can see that you're tryingto render depth in your faces but they still look flat. push your values, and study the human face to see where those shadows and highlights actually lay on the face. lighting can also be manipulated to change the mood of your painting, so study up bruh. along with needing to work on your values, you should work on your understanding of what components make up the face. some people study the facial planes, i personally find that i learn things better when i study from a model(usually myself lol), the hair looks like its hair gelled to the point of immobility, it looks really unnatural, especially the girl's hair imo, but that could be me nitpicking
so those are some things you should keep in mind on your next one. sorry how critical this i but i hope its more constructive than anything lol
>>2536230
The chin/jawline, just flip the image man
>>2536239
Yeah i understand what you're getting at. I was afraid that my colors were way too dull and muddy. But as for why their hair is like that its supposed to be sort of floating up cause of some loss of gravity cause of the characters but we dont need to worry about that lol. Thanks for the help though, i'll really try to push my color out more and look a lot more carefully at any references I use for colors.
>>2535852
This looks fun, I wanna try
Question though, should we use the clear png or the one with the white background since its already been drawn on?
>>2536259
mmmh will clean the other drawing, for now, count that space as occupied
I'll work on cleaning the white background one
>>2536259
made a really rough cleaning but i think it fits with the style and will fit with others
Add it at the end of your drawing
i got so lazy, more gems to come i guess
no bg
trying to think of a better pose for seviper
Advice?
>>2536299
Aw shit that looks really nice! Thanks for doing it man I appreciate it!
>sketch comic
>suddenly don't know how the plot is supposed to continue
>sit around all evening doing nothing
motherfucker
>>2536346
study more loomis, the right eye is drifting away and the rest is good. You need to study more realism to see in 3d.
>>2536360
Thanks!
face is derp, that hair is ugly and looks like a bad drawn 80ish, eyes are not simetrical, they're looking in wider range than looking to the infinite,, the foreshortening does not work because it lacks form and size deformation
You lack understanding of what you're doing, you're yoloing it and thinking nothing, lighting makes no sense. block base colors and try to pick them with some sense, then design the lighting properly, planning it, and then make the edges softer, don't try to do all at the same time or you're gonna fail miserably
>>2531200
Are you Mikufag? You've regressed a lot.
>>2536420
Literally who?
The torso is short and legs are longer in anime, so do arms length get fucked in anime proportions?
>>2532800
if this is suppesed to be what i suspect izdefinately needs moar ass
>>2536550
Elbow ends at the bottom of the ribcage, wrist ends at the bottom of the pelvis (and your hand goes after that).
You'll notice that with taller figures, only certain parts end up being stretched (i.e. for a longer torso, it is better to stretch the chest length while keeping the other areas within regular proportions). For legs, it results in stretching in the shins, while the thighs will not change much (which you can see in the pic you posted)
>>2533783
>>2535832
I'll do that after i finish cleaning it up
>>2535650
>>2535830
I think i sucks. Please help
a sheep after work today
>>2536668
I hope you're still working on that sheepful animation.
>>2536666
Try picturing a line going across her chest (not boobs). Then, try picturing a line going across her shoulders. If you connect several points you'll notice how the alignment is off (I assume you intend for everything to be parallel.)
>>2536671
the bridge one? I abandoned it :---(
>>2536666
Nice quads but what the fuck happened? You chicken scratched the shit out of the whole thing. It looks worse now since she just looks a bit too bulked.
>>2536675
Why tho? I love your sheeps and I love u
>>2536666
Literally just drop her boobs lower. Even in clothing, they don't sit up like that unless they're fake. Please check out some naked women.
Never thought I'd say that...
>>2536680
it was really long and had no acting in it!! not very practical for my demo reel. the rough pass got the mechanics and action across well enough, i think, so i left it at that. thanks though!
>>2536666
Remember friend.
All big breasted women have the soul of a loli.
>>2536666
titties way too high up
>>2536682 - yeah, im going to see some reference
>>2536689
>>2536682
Done, what do you think?
>>2536717
Hold on
>>2536701
titties way too high up
>>2536723
And now?
>>2536726
Looks better! I'd say to go with this for now.
Clean it up and see, sometimes after you finish a lineart or a painting, you'll see any glaring mistakes that looked fine before in the sketch stage.
>>2536747
They do look better than when he started. They don't need to be at her fucking stomach. All I'm saying is if he cleans it up and gets rid of all the chicken scratch, we can see how it looks better. It seems that he gets the general idea but...
>>2536750
>They don't need to be at her fucking stomach
???
??
?
i never said that
>>2536752
I never said you did. But everyone keeps saying lower, lower and its like, the average tit is only so low. Lets see where it goes.
>>2536719
Ew...
I really need to learn:
Animation
Hand anatomy
Line control
Color Theory
Rhythm
Gonna go cut myself now
