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/ic/: "i draw korean is easiest" -Anonymous No. 2515707, 05/08/16
>>2520805
that's like, the real pussy, the alternative one is the other half of the drawing you posted
How do you guys get yourselves to do actual complete works?
For too long now I haven't been able to break through incomplete sketches. After like an hour, I just stop and couldn't get back at it
Is there like some sort of practice which increases your drawing endurance?
>>2520761
I also felt that something was wrong with the face but can't put my finger on it. Just because something looks off doesn't mean that I haven't been studying loomis for years and own the books.
The breasts look saggy because of my not understanding how to do the sweater correctly, as I think I made it too baggy. If you look at the flesh body I drew under it the breasts are actually quite perky.
Again thank you for your critique and I am not arguing because you are wrong, just to try and gain more insight into what I did wrong so I can grow from it. Thanks.
very slowly progressing, i don't think homu fits and will probably start from scratch
>>2520922
i got into the habit of not finishing anything lately and honestly i just have to force myself to work by streaming or guilt-tripping hard enough
>>2521026
These a fuggin' killer mang
>>2521026
I saw you streaming last night
Trying to draw nice eyes. Help
>>2521460
learn to draw actual eyes before a trying a stylized one mang
>>2521468
You mean human eyes? I guess but I don't really see the connection between animu eyes and human eyes.
>>2521480
animu eyes are flatter, yes.
but by doing it you'll get knowledge of how eyelids, eyebrows etc work so you'll have easier time drawing it from various angles and making different expressions
it'll also let you try different styles easier because you'll know which part goes where
>>2521026
You've been working on those same images for the longest time I swear.
another sheep after work. kind of rushed because of unusually long commutes
>>2521026
give me your blog right now
what i'm working on right now
How dis look?
>>2521780
pretty messy
skintone looks oversaturated while everything else looks pretty dull/undersaturated
also your filesize is too fucking big
I'm not sure about the knee of the left leg...or the calves...how's proportion before I clean up and color?
>>2521785
The character is orange. But yes the file size is too big
how bad is this?
>>2521936
you blurred a whole lot of parts that did not need to be blurred at all. cheap technique.
>>2521947
kek, this
also you didn't blur the parts that actually needed it
>>2521936
Your technique is sloppy, but you think very dynamically. You're in luck, it's much easier improving the former than the latter.
>>2521936
Using airbrush or gradients to render is a pet hate of mine
>>2522008
You're going into bagbosse territory with those lines m8. I liked your Samurai girl piece much more.
>>2522021
hmm, too loose. i guess you are right.
Except for the fucked up hands, is there anything else I should correct? Not too sure about his crotch, I'm too used to drawing girls
Hey /ic/ I'm trying to study 3dpd anatomy as instructed while continuing animu gril studies. Also, should I use a fixed opacity/width brush when doing the line art? I draw this using the usual Sketchbook by Autodesk on the Android platform so any particular advice on its usage is also greatly appreciated. Please shit on me /ic/ so I can learn from it.
>>2522007
Why? I think it works fine for animu purposes.
>>2522194
yeah but you still need hard edges
>>2522059
the head is huge and way too simplified compared to the denim
can someone help me out
my pencil quality is complete ass when I scanned it.
Is there a way to fix this into line art? Is it the size or the way I filtered the levels on krita (too poor for photoshop)?
Or will I need to ink traditionally
any feedback welcome
>>2521026
Teach her some trigger discipline maybe.
>>2522298
I suck at this, gotta go fast but I can't sanic enought
>>2522398
Values overall are really dark. It might help to bring in some lighter values in some areas.
FML rendering this all out is going to take me forever.
Any critiques before I get to work? All these perspectives have my head spinning.
>>2522604
thx, gotta polish and color the first one, so values doesn't matter too much, gotta make her a cutie from that vague face
>>2521793
Looks good to me.
>>2521692
no work on saturday, but here's another sheep
>>2522419
That looks pretty nice, anon
Lineart commission
>>2522733
noice style, love it
>>2522782
Gorgeous lines anon. How do you get those with the pen tool in photoshop or ink pen in sai? Super jelly, it looks great.
>>2522782
Nice commission. Shibari is fun.
>>2521936
vaseline-on-the-lens / 10
>>2522419
I'd like to imagine you're one of the 21 Days of Overwatch people and you're just starting now.
>>2520805
Can you guys help me with this? I'm trying to make sketch cards for my first convention to sell for like a dollar each. Is this clear enough? Also which version is better? Should I add more shit in the back?
>>2523120
I should mention they have to be the size of a Pokemon card, like 2.5x3.5
>>2523120
Another one.
>>2523222
woops, sorry its supposed to be more like this size
>>2521936
fix those legs and feet and use some reference
Suggestions?
>>2523120
>>2523223
why is her left leg so thin? her pose isn't clear, it's hard to see what's happening with her left arm, and at first i couldn't see that it was her hand holding the bat and the bat wasn't sticking in her neck. you're not drawing through your shapes, the figure looks retarded under her clothes. the colours are pretty awful .
as for spock, it looks unfinished, the colours are lifeless on that too, work on being able to do a good drawing before going into painting.
tl;dr - git good before you try to sell stuff.
Hi I'm kinda new to this whole art thing. If I want to dedicate myself to drawing fanart from anime all the time, and I see people prefer seeing other artists draw characters in their own style instead of the original one...
Is it really that bad or low of me to just copy their styles (the eyes, nose, proportions used etc) and I'll just add my own choice of line weight and coloring style? I'm thinking of just improvising in proportions if I can add something that would suit me (such as boys from manga drawn as kids in the creator's style, then make them more bishonen/attractive to girls in my style).
>>2523477
I mean I guess you could but then it kind of defeats the purpose of "Fan art".
rad, but I passed out :')
>>2523562
>character design
>dressup
kys sperg
>>2523477
>>2523538
Well initially I thought I could draw my favorite characters in different scenarios with whatever story/idea/AU I can come up with, while copying close to the creator's style as much as possible, which is the main reason why I want to do fanart.
I see a lot of pixiv art and those that do have the most ratings. But I didn't know it was being looked down upon until now.
>>2523562
nothing personel
>>2523567
>fab.png
>draws dress me up little girls
>calls it character design
bender in denial
>>2523585
fa=final artwork shor name
b= 2nd file in different size
It wasn't fabulous lol
I'm not pretentious, it's animu shit with very bland ideas, but that's what some ppl want, it's not personal work
>>2523562
what the fuck is your problem
>>2523572
Well I mean as long as you aren't actually tracing over stuff and changing a few things I guess it is okay. Just do whatever you want man.
>>2522288
>chicken scratch
Your first problem. Better get to working on those lines if you plan on scanning shit. Maybe you should draw a sketch first to get an idea of what you're planning on drawing before actually drawing it so your lines don't get to be so indecisive. Also get a softer, thicker lead so you don't have to do your lines over to achieve certain line weights; otherwise, you're only make it scratchier and therefore shittier.
>>2523646
that isn't chicken scratching
>>2523648
It certainly isn't clean or well-planned either.
>>2522288
>dat bulge
>>2521936
>ass is blurred
What's the point then? It should be a focal point.
>>2522285
You've never seen the show that's fanart of, have you? They juxtapose ultra-detailed with simplistic all the time.
Sakura re-draw I finally finished. Took some liberties with the style and just enjoyed doing the inkwork.
It's on shit xerox paper but whatever. Better quality final pic.
>>2524020
Nice lines. Hands look too big for a loli though.
Advice welcome. I'm moving away from realistic drawings and thought I'd dip my toes into a different style. I think realistic drawings have made my creativity rigid. I feel that shows throw my drawing.
I don't like the mouth or the eyes. I think I really could have changed the placement of the facial features and added more stylisation- perhaps larger lips and varied sized eyes.
>>2524022
Thanks! I felt like they looked a bit big in the reference image as well, but towards the end I just said fuck it and went with what I had down. I hate messing around with the base sketch... I'd rather just ink.
>>2524031
move back
>>2524046
Pardon?
>>2523652
>Perfectly formed and singular lines or it's shit
How 'bout no?
>>2523646
yeah I figured that was the problem after thinking about it.
also thanks for the tips.
I just get tempted to not plan sometimes
>>2524336
>being content with mediocrity
>>2523562
lol
>>2524367
Post your work
Made this a few hours ago. Her top looks a bit wierd, since I don't think I was thinking about the form when adding it. I think it's super good when I compare it to some of my other work., so I'm happy with it.
Does XoPachi trace?
>>2522733
didn't turn out great, but it's another sheep
>>2523309
The delete button.
drawing stupid things for friends. mouths are hard
Is there any like tutorial on how to draw impacts? I need to get better. Pic related.
>>2524463
Hot, but I think the part where her swimsuit/pantsu goes over her leg down to her crotch needs to be thinner.
>>2524575
I mean it looks good overall, but I think the way the tree breaks is a little off. She's going from the middle of the trunk, so do it like a cone. She obliterates whatever is at the center, and it just sort of gets less and less the wider the cone is. Which means that tree top is coming down on her head.
>>2524494
looks like a goat hiding in trumps hair
>>2524494
fancy af
looking for cc on this dressup game of mine
>>2524593
They're shorts
>>2524015
>asking critique for a literal trace
>been procrastinating for 2 weeks
>Finally sit down to draw
>nothing comes to mind
Just some messing around
First time doing grey colouring
>>2524575
her hair should be flying in the opposite direction in the second panel
pls gib art gainz mr skeletal
Portrait of my soldier from tf2.
>>2524494
I want to live in the world where you sheep live.
Anon drew a nice Cardcaptor so I drew one myself.
>>2524939
beg thread
>>2525043
who is mr skeletal?
>>2525064
bg is worse than killing your father
colors are not armonic, values are too far away (red things/hair vs everything else, the contrast is extreme)
The face features are deformed too much, it looks weird, the nose seems like it's not attached to the face and the forehead volume is weird, it goes forward like ayyy lmao
You might want to drop the lineart with better criteria, use a reference and follow another ppl good criteria to learn what to do
her torso and legs aren't too bad, but left hand is lazy
>>2524875
Sorry bud, but it's not a trace. If you actually compare the attached reference pic here to my drawn version, you'll see a bunch of small changes and differences of proportion. My version looks good but it's not faithful enough to be a trace.
People have been using reference photos for hundreds of years and portraits specifically can be near exact replicas of their subjects. I've gotta say that if you can't discern the little differences in my line drawing from the original, then I think that says more about your skill level than mine.
>>2525298
Is this a joke?
>>2525308
No. I'm tired of having my work labeled as traced just because I draw well, and I'm salty as shit, fully admitted. I really don't understand how people can't tell freehand just by looking at the variances.
>>2525329
I can tell it's not a trace, nice linework. I wish mine looked that clean.
I think people just tend to assume anything referenced from animu is traced because that's what the majority of shit artists who think they are mangakas do nowadays. The very first drawing I was ever proud of was a shitty trace of Zoro from One Piece I did when I was in like 6th grade, but damn was I happy with it... Until someone called me out on my shit and I realized that you can't say art is really yours unless you change something about it. I can see what you changed though, the hair looks very different and some other details. Looks nice. Color it.
>>2523585
Call the fire nation!
>>2525298
>>2525329
But you may as well have just traced the image, right? All that's really different is the hair and the facial expression, and even then it's only marginally. Like what's the point of the drawing? Can you draw something of similar caliber without basically copying an already existing image 1:1?
>>2520805
thx op I cum on cat then she hiss at penis
>>2525382
Nope. I'm not a creative artist at all, just a technical one. I like to draw and I'm proud of the skills I've developed because I've worked hard for them. I always post my references and make it clear that the concepts I use are not mine. I waste my time freehanding base sketches only because tracing is so scorned!
My question would be - why do you imply that original concepts are the only viable art form? Comic books as we know today are generally finished by an inker, and it's a respected field amongst professionals. Many types of art, portraits included, copy from reference and are still appreciated as the art they are. Different strokes for different folks... pun intended? ;)
>>2525359
Well thanks. I'm reminded why I don't usually post, but sometimes you just want to share! I'm sorry that 6yr-old-you learned the hard way about tracing. I started with realism when I was young and always thought nothing about using reference photos, until I learned that my love of cartoons applied the same way was apparently subject to different rules.
Don't feel bad about your own linework though. Most people don't spend too much time practicing that last step! I'd recommend tracing out your sketches (lol) and learning to ink on those copies. Never ink an original you're especially proud of until you know you're going to do it well.
>>2523309
I like it
>>2524494
a sheep after work today
tegaki E reopened so I tried doodling a bit
also no I don't know how to draw hands
>>2525588
This one I did on chrome, so the offset lag was pretty bad
>>2521936
Her hand is literally on the wrong side of the sword
>>2525598
>her
>>2522059
More of Karamats please
>>2525189
Thanks, this is like the 5th thing I have colored and I guess I need to study 'color theory' as well now right?
>>2525562
You know, sheep; depending on most general breeds, don't have horns. Maybe refer to these as rams/goats.
>>2525629
you are mistaken my friend, while true the rams are typically the ones with horns, a ram is just a male sheep, just as a ewe is a female sheep; the term 'sheep' refers to the animal, without any regard for its gender. and a goat is another animal entirely.
I drew something for myself for once. might turn it into a back ground because I like this character
>>2525646
is it gonna stay without pants?
>>2525646
blog?
>>2525665
looks like a game of worms in the last few minutes
>>2523120
4, but change the skin shadow color so it pops out a bit more. Maybe blend half way between the skin shadow color from 2 and 4, so you get it slightly off-hue but not too contrasting.
The pink background doesn't really work imo.
4 got my attention only because the foreground colors against white remind me of a jester on a playing card, which kinda works with the whole joker+jester theme.
Also that semi-transparent overlay in 1 looks really dull in gray. I'd make it use dark pink on light pink instead (eg. that dark pink from the background in 3).
Shift the hue of your colors more when swatching shadows and highlights. Don't just stick to the same hue as the base, it makes things look like wet fabric rather than adding vibrancy to your piece through warmer and colder off-hue color tones.
Good luck at the convention.
Also, classic Harley Quinn any day.
>>2525724
I like her hair.
Dude looks straight out of Samurai Shampoo.
Practice hands a bit more, they seem to have the most chicken scratching going on, while a lot of the other lines look quite confident.
>>2525739
it's from pkmn, ok i'll practice
>>2525646 (Kyle)
hey KYLE
that looks cute
whats wrong with her FEET
Here are some Lego spaceships - meh
>>2525646
i want to commission you real bad
>>2525746
I like the clothing.
That's a lot of pouches though.
>>2525646
hey kyle, may i ask how long does it take you to do the lineart?
Trying to character design, critique pls
How do I draw with an intuos instead of cintiq?
>>2525810
I only feel pouches as bad when other ppl do it lmao
>>2525329
>>2525491
Anon, I can relate a bit because I'm somehow very good at copying and referencing things and always have been... difference is I never felt proud about it. As a kid people would tell me how well I'd draw and I'd just feel guilty - things haven't changed now.
People are telling this for you. Do you really feel happy and fulfilled knowing you just copied something that isn't yours? The feeling of creating something from scratch is completely different. Sure having references and knowing how to analyze is important, after all that's how one learns how to draw, by learning how to see, but there's a middle ground in there.
/ic/ is dead.
>>2525814
Depends that one took about 40 mins sometime it can take me 3 hours if I'm being anal about it.
>>2525855
As long as one person is posting /ic/ is not dead, the fuck are you talking about?
>>2525646
those hips are giving me weird feelings
[spoiler]moar[/spoiler]
>>2525646
Where can i jerk off more to this.
>>2525879
at least 2
otherwise it would be all samefagging
Trying out a pen/marker combo.
>>2526028
The highlighter gives a pretty cool effect
explosion!
>>2526034
i want to fuck this drawing
>>2526034
Hey motherfucker I like your stuff, teach me to draw Senpai
>>2526034
why arent you a pro yet
also please tumblr and pls change name.
>>2525951
whats a good handle? everyone just started calling me kyle because I messed up a posted a picture with my /c drive about 3 years ago
>>2526045
I'm trying to teach a guy right now. I only got so much free time.
>>2526054
Just think of something man
Some people call me Bleach-fag because on many occasions I want to drink bleach because I cant draw but do it anyway
>>2526054
something unique and easy to remember.
kairoboingno is impossible to remember and kyle is too vague.
Learn from MalDraw ,he established his artist handle pretty well just look at the google search results for his artist handle. Literally started less than a year ago.
>>2526054
I'm a fan of your work but just a small nitpick, the shadow of the raised elbow looks off somehow, as if it doesn't follow the form correctly. I feel it flattens the arm.
>>2526054
Other artists from /ic/ that have a good artist handle as far as i know of other than Maldraw are thdark and keppok.
BBC chan comes quite close but that handle is pretty vague as well but at least his stuff is easier to find than yours.
>how bout rinfag
nope http://rinfag.deviantart.com/gallery/ Nothing
He goes by another name, whatever it is.
never -fag yourself it'll never show up on google.
How should I study animu faces? look at other people's styles?
>>2526054
>restart on dA drawing sfw stuff with an easy to remember artist handle.
>make a nsfw with said handle on tumblr
>remind everyone in /ic/ and your blog of your new art handle
>shill that shit until it's the no.1 google search result
>open patreon with new handle
>bust a load on the pile of cash you'll get
i guess i'm done
>>2526054
>>2525646
where are the fat-titty lolis man
>>2524983
what if she punched so hard that it created a vacuum
>>2525842
I guess it just depends on your goals and focus. I'm not a professional artist and I've never been interested in becoming one. I have never sold my work nor accepted commissions, so I don't usually consider my preferences an issue.
For me personally, I enjoy the repetitive and soothing nature of technical work. Perfect shading and inking for hours. Doing the creative aspect takes far more thought and effort and pretty much ruins the whole point of why I draw - to relax! I realize that I'm the minority in this but I've never understood why. Some people just love to color, I like to ink.
Ideally I would form a casual relationship with other artists and just ink their work directly, maybe toss around ideas or be allowed to change things here and there without offending someone. I miss co-drawing with people for fun, just to see what we can do.
>>2521936
Why is this dated jan 2015?
>>2525589
this is fucking great even if its probably gay porn.
anything I should work on?
>>2526345
The celshading is really nice but the gesture is stiff as a board. Also weird proportions, arms too short
>>2526299
Because it was drawn then.
>>2526368
eyes looks too close together
another tegaki drawing
the 2009 one was the first I'd ever drawn on there, so for the relaunch I thought of redrawing stuff
Trying to get into generic anime stuff, and I'm not really sure what to do yet. So mostly experimenting with various things.
Not drawing bodies yet as that's not very different from traditional drawing, it's faces that worry me the most.
>>2526174
I really like this! Don't have any crit to give, sadly.
>>2526591
thanks, i'm sure i'll find something else to do to it
working on this atm
>>2520805
Was wondering what people think of this.
I think the blood should probably be more apparent.
>>2526676
nice, feet maybe a bit too long?
>>2526835
wow you're right that's super obvious now that you've pointed it out. thanks, i'll fix it.
Been drawing srsly for about 7 months, but im no where near where i wanted to be by now. any tips for improvements?
>>2526034
one last time can you give me your blog?
im not autistic enough to go to the archives to find it
>>2520805
>>2520805
robo waifu
>>2525646
dat megumin
>>2526054
D-do you use the curve tool or freehand lineart ??
>>2526894
People dont use the Curve tool at all do they?
DO THEY
>>2526870
you know why it sucks? Because it is grey, washed out, boring, strikes nothing. How about adding some darkest darks and lightest lights? Instead of grey gray grey gray.
I draw at a Stabilizer of 3 but I want my lines to look more smoother for a simplistic look
If I bump it up could I get lines like this?
>>2526852
maybe it's just the heel
>>2526899
thx ill work on that
>>2521936
why does she have 2 left arms lmao.
>>2526923
All those lines are doable without stabilization, it's just a shortcut/crutch. Set it to as high as you want when doing final lines.
slugbox uses like max stabilization during line art in mangastudio.
>>2526969
Oh yeah, I like Slugbox's lines
Whats /ic/s general view on him? I picture being very negative
>>2526970
>/ic/s opinion on anyone even mildly successful
>anything but garbage
Don't even need to ask, but his shit is great. Stream is fun to watch also, hear stories of the horror of bronies at conventions
i need to study more hands and fabric
>>2526968
furuta a shit
>>2525818
I like em, but they look like pokemon starters.
>>2526835
Thanks again I think that helped a whole lot
What went wrong?
>>2520805
>>2525698
holy lol
>>2525724
shit taste in ships but nice style
>>2527695
Could you share your brush?
>>2526054
KyleReesesPuffs
>>2527270
Dandy/10
Season 3 when
Drill Loli
>>2527609
no problem, great job! are you finished with this one? will you upload a hi-res version?
I drew my waifu
>>2527931
me too
I'm not that edgy
>>2527995
this pose is way better then last two
>>2527931
your waifu is rebecca watson
>>2527908
> it's another guy that tries to add more detailed features on an Anime girl without undersanding the point of the style
Everytime.
Second part soon.
>>2528171
You cant tell him not to add some DSL
>>2526034
Style wise, pretty bad, you made Megumin look like some fat tumblr chipmunk. But if it weren't Megumin it'd still be a fine drawing. 6.5/10- Nice
>>2528179
>tumblr
Oh my god shut up dude
Tumblr isnt a style
>>2528183
Not this guy but "Tumblr style" is mostly used when speaking of ugly variants of Anime style. Which fits here.
MONSTER GIRLS~
Drew up evil Morty and try to draw in RaMs style.
Was pretty fun.
>>2526526
Neat improvement.
>>2528202
Cute.
>>2528171
I mean I'm not really aiming for an anime look. Anime inspired I guess.
Lineart commission
>>2528401
Fix that hand.
>>2528417
explain pls
>>2528401
not the same poster but i belive he is refrerring to the way the hands have no joints and curve upwards instead of wrapping around the dildo.
>>2528420
Try and replicate that with your own hand without breaking your fingers. Why the fuck do I even have to explain this shit to you are you that oblivious?
>>2528440
my fingers are flexible as shit
>>2528442
do you actually believe those fingers look good?
>>2528450
Not only that but they're not even attached to the metacarpus. He clearly has no fucking idea what he's doing don't waste your time.
>>2527821
Just started using PS, It's just a brush with an angle and its quite frankly terrible. I recommend Kritas version of the tilted brush. If youre talking about the sketch, its just quick memo + on android's basic marker.
>>2527920
I still have a few more things to do with it but I'll upload higher res eventually
>>2526174
more madoka
>>2525818
blog?
any anatomy/gesture/wathever correction be4 doing line art?
>>2529164
You do the line art after?
Thats fucking strange
>>2528174
Part two.
>>2529184
You clearly want to be bkub but have no idea why his jokes work
Evil Rick to go with Mortimer.
>>2528302
>>2529168
first line art is the sketch, second line art will be the final art, might keep some parts of the sketch but it's too messy
doing the line art over what I already have is like tracing, I can correct forms, add details and do shit one step at a time
I always start sketching with a big round brush linked to pressure size and opacity, my sketchess are not gud enought to do final things over them
>>2529184
to make it funnier, draw those citiciens flying around, like she only cared about the turtle
>>2529184
I chuckled. Not bad, anon.
Now do part 3/2
>>2529164
His shoulderpad is kind of boring. Give it a nicer silhouette.
Also his boots are not structured at all. Do get references and redraw them. It'll be worth it.
>>2529254
Oops, missed this post.
Boots soles area need fixing.
Any help on how to pose his arms & weapon to bring maximum attention to his ass while producing a nice silhouette?
i cant find drawthread
>>2526054
fupa/10
>>2527674
kira looks like someone out of a 90s boyband
Are the arms too thin in comparison with his body?
>>2522008
NA this linework is very good
good work sir
personally I think you could get some more energy in there.
dont limit your hand