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Progress.
She's more or less done. Now I just gotta work out the hands, the butterflies, and paint the martian landscape in the background. As well as perhaps outline the chains.
I wonder if it perhaps looks a bit disjointed. I didn't intend to have a background. At first I simply wanted to have her with a magic circle behind her, but then that felt a bit dull, so I decided to add the overhead landscape, and the more and more ideas kept piling on.
>>2487917
The hands going for the chains are dope, I think you should add more, and remove the rest, since it feels like a little bit too much.
Testing, do my posts even post...
>>2487956
I do suffer from sameface but I actually haven't drawn android 16 before...
Can I get some pointers and direction? I know I need to improve my anatomy, that's probably the biggest thing that comes to mind but really just looking for any feedback, want to actually improve and anything's helpful
These are just a couple of characters I've drawn off the top of my head
First chinese cartoon drawing. Anything stick out?
>>2488067
Yep. It's fairly crap. But keep drawing, seems you're on a somewhat good track.
Your understanding of the fundamentals are still extremely basic, dedicate some more time into studying basic forms (still lives, etc) before delving into the harder stuff. After that you can start looking at anatomy, lighting, etc.
Remember, make sure to draw for fun and love the process, but also remember that it's impossible to improve without studying the fundamentals.
Keep drawing anon!
I'm having some anatomy issues, could I get someone's help please?
>>2488067
sticky
>>2488067
k, i'm drawing this for my cousin, he doesn't know it yet so if you guys tell me it's total shit i can throw this away no problem.
I tried inking it on some oil paper to not fuck up the original sketch, wich was a good idea because i might toss the inked one away.
If it looks like shit is because one, i have no artistic background (i always studied mechanincs) and two, i didn't use any references, it's all "imagination" (i kept drawing lines until they looked good enough, it's my patented strategy)
if any kind soul could redline the biggest mistakes i would be eternally grateful
>>2488149
It's very good. The inking loses a lot of the dynamism and form the sketch had, though.
>>2488057
Sticky
Try different angles and shots as you learn the forms of the head and facial features. Right now you're symbol drawing pretty hard and not respecting your proportions either. Try some Proko tutorials on the head.
>>2488092
Might be me, but it feels like her rib cage is too large or pelvis is too small.
Instead of throwing down lines first, I am attempting to sketch by "painting"
In other words, I don't know what I am doing, or if this is a fruitful exercise...
Ref'd some bioshock looking toys of Pinterest
>>2488171
pretty good
>>2488171
the details really suffer with this method, but i really like #4's head. It definitely seems fruitful
>>2488164
thanks for the reply. I'm using the inked one to experiment a little because i'm going to re-ink it anyway, maybe something good will come out of it.
>>2488149
left foot too small , needs to be bigger .
>>2488194
Yeah there was no room on the original sketch (hence his hunchback pose), i'm going to adjuste it digitally. Any opinions on the muscles? i'm making them up as i go, i have no idea on the forearm, shoulder or shin anatomy, do they look okay?
Fug didn't notice new thread.
My hair always ends up being an ugly block with no details in it like literally just ellipses with mediocre shading on the head. I've watched the guides months ago but I can never go from the basic block shapes to actual hair looking hair. Any tips?
>>2488233
post sample
>>2488235
That's what I figured, but I'm too much of a pussy.
I'll go look somewhere else.
>>2488233
You should post something , i don't get what you mean. Just add as many details as you can, every strand of hair, every reflection, then simplify your design by drawing over it, using simple geometric shapes. If it takes more than a couple of minutes to simplify your design then there's too many details, simplify it even more.
>>2488198
Careful with muscles or they end up looking weird. You are doing real good from what I can see. But that foot needs to be addressed badly. If you fix it in digital, try it out now first. It might look a bit off when you edit the lines and that's a headache after working hours on a piece.
On another note, this looks like dunkmaster darius with a beard. Hah
>>2488300
Duly noted. Halfway trough i realized i was going down a bad road, so now i'm keeping the muscles really simple. I might post the digital version tomorrow, with the resized shoe and everything. Also holy shit is dunkmaster darius cool, i might use him as a reference, thank you
>>2488344
Np, anon!
Post it up when you feel like it, I would love to see the progress!
>>2488278
Not him but I'm so used to seeing "draw simple shapes, then add details, done" in literally every guide and book, my details are always fucking trash when it comes to hair and I don't get it. I even sometimes straight up copied the details of another drawing, and my own hair still came out like shit. I've given up trying to make good looking hair, now all I do is blocky air like in >>2488085
>>2488170
I think you're right. I was trying to go for foreshortening.
>>2488357
Practice. Then copy. Then practice. Hate yourself for a little while. Give up. Regret giving up. Practice more.
Rinse and repeat. You'll figure it out at some point.
>>2488357
actually i said to do the opposite. draw detailed hair first (in pencil), they'll come out wrong but thats what you want. Then draw over that , using simple shapes to trace what you already drew and cancelling what you don't like. Then add details, then draw over that again. rinse and repeat till u happy
>>2488171
I just started richard schmid's everything I know about painting, so far is promising, you might want to give it a try
>>2488031
Me again, somehow having huge trouble getting posts to send.
Ok so here's my issue.
I've been drawing for 1 year and I feel I'm making good progress in terms of realism and learning all my fundamentals, generally everything is going well and progressing.
My one issue right now that's holding me back is that I can't simplify facial features particularly the nose without feeling like im lazy, a good example I can give is that when im doing a small scale face where my pen can't inflect a lot of detail I have to draw dashes for eyes and 2 dots for a nose.
I feel there's a mental drawback for me that makes me feel these things aren't "good enough" or that no "effort" has been put in and that it is valueless, then I look at batman year one or any other particularly heavy line weight comic book and I see that this shit is rife, accepted and loved.
So my question is this, in comic books and in the background of stylized peices is it fully acceptable to dart in 3 horizontal lines for an eye, and 2 dots for nostril shadows?
Do you have any examples of artists from comics,manga,stylized illustration who do this well?
I'm trying to practice it by looking at headshots of male/female celebrities and boiling them down into small fine liner drawings but it always ends up shit.
>>2488067
Needs more planning. You should always try to get down basic shapes and indicate where certain body parts go before detailing things in.
The neck is massive and the shoulders are too scrunched. Arms are too skinny.
Could be a lot worse though, just gotta approach the forms in 3d if you want more realism
>>2488481
Unless you are under constraints like comic artists are for certain formats then theres noo reason to be over simplified unless it stylistic looks good. Dont work small if you dont have to if it hurts the detailing process
>>2488498
here's an example say the constraint is that the paper is 11x13" and the pen is a 0.05 , get what i mean more now?
or say its A4 and you're using a 0.5 , if a character needs to be recognizable then that's my problem.
I doubt the solution is to get a magnifying glass and use a 0.05 and do a full detail face there that sounds totally wrong.
>>2488537
solution is do it on computer foo'
i have this weird problem with drawing characters in this style where i can draw them from the back no problem but to draw them from the front i have to visualize from the rear and sketch that before going back and clean up/switching details to make them face forward. anyone suffer from a similar problem and/or have tips?
>>2488481
>>2488498
>>2488537
the smaller/farther away something is the lower it's level of detail should be
>if a character needs to be recognizable then that's my problem.
good character design should be recognizable even if you have to reduce the face to two dash lines and a dot nose, hell, it should be recognizable even if you leave the face completely blank, look at mike mignola's work with hellboy and bprd
you use visual cues such as hair, clothing, body type etc. to create a unique silhouette which allows you to plant a visual anchor in your reader's mind
think of it like how you might look for one of your friends in a crowd of people, it's difficult to read faces clearly at a distance/from behind so you look for their haircut/outfit/bodytype combo
>>2488580
On what you said about costuming visual ques and silouhetes I understand that fully, it just feels cheap somehow. Maybe I'm not fully in the comic book mindset
I can't figure out which arm position is better.
>>2488607
I've had a very bad experience with that arm position I used to sleep like that until I fucking dislocated my shoulder one morning I would go for the bottom position but that's just me.
>>2487776
YOU INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE TURDLING CUM GUZZLING FAGGOT OP
HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD TO FUCKING WAIT UNTIL PAGE 9-10 TO MAKE A NEW THREAD?
>>2488067
>Anything stick out?
That arm
>>2488607
And speaking of arms, I'd say the one on top. I like the way she just leans into the city. Makes it seem more dynamic, like she's in mid action, while the bottom makes it look like she's just resting and supporting herself by her arms. Plus the way her shoulder juts out on the bottom one isn't very becoming imo, but I'm not a muscle fetishist so what do I know?
>>2487776
What font is that?
>>2488790
Danzig 4p
how do I learn to draw like based range murata?
>>2488901
Although it's better than what I do I don't find it special or amazing really. I see much better stuff on pixiv on a daily basis. What kind of answer do you seek?
>>2488910
the expressions, anatomy, and coloring is what I'm most impressed with. his artwork of chairs and couches is really on point too.
Meh.
I'll try to do better on the next one.
Any flaws, any issues, line weight tips. I'll take em.
>>2488913
His stuff is nearly all gouache and markers
As for deconstructing his style all it is is retro futurism + little girls
>>2488913
>coloring
install corel Painter since thats the program he uses also he paint with digital watercolors like other titans in the industry like tonytaka and tae kim hyung
>>2488969
stop using marker brushes for godsake
>>2489006
the dark brown one is kind of nice though
>>2488647
cool
>>2489006
what do instead and why?
>>2488647
I can't actually read this at all, I saw it earlier and had a good long look to find hte arms and I just couldn't.
I originally thought it was a bust then i realised that the flippers were flippers and not some kind of harness on a chest.
don't take my word for it though but if someone else see's it maybe there's an issue with the line weight causing the forms to be lost.
can anyone offer insight into different rendering workflows/techniques? atm i definitely feel like my paint is heavy handed and too opaque-- i want to be cleaner but my process is so hamfisted. Basically, I dunno how to put down more meaningful blobs of color/strokes.
>>2489064
hair is also a big problem area for me, so if anyone has any tips regarding that i'd appreciate it greatly
attached pic is just an example of something i'd like to push towards
>>2489077
hey gd, here's one of the three old process vid of RA: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjIwNTkwMTc2.html
Practice edges, maybe
>>2489088
thanks senpai, got a link to the others?
>>2489093
got ya
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAzOTUzNjQ0.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODkwNDU2Nzc2.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
>>2488913
I was probably too harsh concerning his skills but I still stand on the fact that to reach this level you simply need to study and learn how to draw in general, there isn't a magical answer.
>>2488092
Boobs need to be bigger.
>>2488971
just testing things out
>>2488934
Nice, some of the values on the girl came out a bit muddy (I can see lots of strokes), but I'm glad to see you finish it
I tell myself that I'll go back and clean up the BG and details, but I never do. Sometimes it just feels good to call it done.
>>2489230
I dig the line work, I prefer more exaggerated form shadows, otherwise, it feels like the lighting is crazy bright, but that is more personal preference
>>2489064
also can someone help me out with sleeves, i can't into cuffs in perspective
particularly in that picture they came out pretty fucked up
Is mikufag is still around?
>>2489403
Yeah, I just feel something is fundamentally wrong with the composition snd colors. I'm not quite sure what though, do I'll leave it at that.
I did want to have it be very gritty in style to kinda capture Ishiwatari's way of illustrating things, but at the same time, I didn't plan ahead for the piece, but rather just tossed it all in, and I think 90% of it's problems come from there. So I'll call it finished for now, leave it as a benchmark for my current skill, keep learning and studying, and when get better, and have a better eye for all the mistakes perhaps redo it in the future.
>>2489230
this is really hard to read, the two subjects are blending into each other a lot. the hair of the character in front looks like its part of the helmet of the character in the back
i guess its because the size of the heads are the same so on first glance I recognized them as being on the same plane but after a close look one charcter is in front the other
I don't have any recommendations specifically for how to fix these issues but to me it seems to be the most glaring issue i can think of
>>2486507
Continuing.
i'm studying some head in these day
i'm just curious why is sketching anime face is harder than sketching loomis head or random people for me
may be because my skill level is still lowtier or something
but i just don't know why
>>2489489
He is too busy shitposting on /pol/ and listening to a racist drunken Texan.
>>2489794
muh racism's
>>2489794
HE'S NOT A RACIST HE IS A MELTINGPOT OF FRIENSHIP
>>2489789
Because a "good" Anime face needs to be appealing, while random people can look whatever you want them to look.
>>2488149
>>2488198
k, i might be done with the energy ball. kinda looks like shit but it's the best i can do. I also set the base colors for the body, might do them tomorrow.
>>2489595
Does it help that I wanted them to blend?
I wanted to go for, they are the same person thing.
Working on making toys so I was sketching up some plans on how to articulate a non basic character, since its anatomy isnt exactly human i dont know how I can improve on it, but is there any other glaring issues I just cant see?
>>2490034
Read Scott Rob's "How to draw" and go through his method and steps. Draw some orthos, a couple perspective shots (2pt) and then some breakaways of the full figure and the important parts.
Mechanical drawing is 90% perspective and properly showing how it all comes together and functions.
>>2489679
>>2490055
I have a ton of tiny little sketches of how it comes together, but nothing on a single sheet showing it in one place, so I guess I should gather them all up and compile it into one image then. Ill even look into Scott Robs work, sounds like good advice. Good advice on /ic/ is a fucking rarity. And heres an older shit sketch I did at work one day.
>>2489920
when doing a blur like that on the HYPERbALL i'd really suggest having it obscure the hand
overall it has a lot of anatomy problems but the overall gesture and energy is actually carrying it really well, the biggest problem i'd say is the feet. the one on the ground is too flat, should be in a bit of perspective to imply the ground plane isn't directly in line with where the ball is
>>2490141
thanks for the tips on the foot. Any tips on how to paint folds?
>>2488171
Robot reminds me of ashley woods work, pretty cool
>>2489794
Kek, is mikufag really a /pol/ack?
And here I thought this shithole was exclusively full of brainles tumblr dipshits hahaha.
Well, still kinda shabby, he's still using this site after all.
>>2490243
>ashley woods
cool! I didn't have a name from pinterest earlier. Does he do models and illustrations?
>>2488171
Alt thread seems pretty quiet, I assume that means everyone is busy drawing
I deliberately looked up Ashley wood refs for these
>>2489486
they're just tubes of cloth
but don't just draw tubes of cloth
pay attention to the position of the arm, and how it is hanging off of it
crit please
>>2488910
I'd love to see those pixiv artists, care to link?
>>2490299
You're such a fag. Oh my god, fuck off.
>>2490763
eyes too big and close together, nose too small (move the nostril over a bit), lower lip be huge. might wanna move the hair line a bit farther back from the eyebrow.
>>2489794
Jewish hambones can't be racist, faggot
>>2490763
Just paste it over the drawing you copied it from and see what's wrong
Anon last thread pointed out that the knife didn't read at all, which was really helpful, tried messing around fixing that.
>>2490914
Hate to be "that" guy but what software and brush did you use for this? The lines are clean yet have a subtle grain to them which I find rather appealing.
>>2490930
i join this question. My stuff depends on lineart but i dislike how clean it is. I know about pencil/grain brushes but none of them was idealistic enough to be clean yet still having this effect
Just draw traditional and scan.
>>2490969
torso is tiny and the arms are too short. draw the figure under then add clothing (even the clothing you drew doesn't drape right)
>>2490969
this shit looks like a gondola
Some people say they like my stuff but I don't think it's very good. Should I put more effort into making stuff even if I don't think it's good or should I practice without anything to show for it until I'm better.
>>2491144
who makes these awesome pieces
Should I keep the panties, or give some kinda leggins? I'm not sure if they fit in the dark souls style.
>>2490914
next Mignola right here lads
Keep it up senpai.
Looking for critique on anatomy, please.
>>2491525
Also how to do clothes wrinkles, possibly.
>>2491525
Well, with clothing wrinkles, what you gotta do is find 'pinch points', and then sling the lines from those around the body. Where the clothes are flat on the body, there are no wrinkles.
It's a bit difficult to explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TglbF7aEQ1E
Peruse through this. This guy has some good tips with the wrinkles in here.
>>2491702
Thanks, really useful. Any tips on anatomy?
>>2491705
Would it be okay if I did a red-line thing on your drawing, and then explain what I did after? That would make it easier to explain.
If you don't want me to touch it, I understand, and I'll still explain, don't worry.
Is my lineart 2noob for /aag/?
also posted it in the draw thread (and the last /aag/ thread because /ic/ has terrible thread maintenance) but I didn't get booted over here so I don't know.
>>2491712
Well, I'm a piece of shit with lineart, but I, personally, like adding a thicker outline on the outside of the figure and around the head. I just feel it pulls the character from the background.
Oh yeah, her eyes look a little low, I think. And the forearm's muscle structure looks a little off. (They're almost balanced like calves, with more muscle on one side than the other)
Oh yeah I'd also recommend colouring lineart, but that would depend on colour scheme so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>2491718
>also recommend colouring lineart
yeah so would I but I'm shit at rendering.
But thank you for that other critique as well. I just feel like it's so damn basic and I don't know where to proceed. Probably doesn't help that I'm using pretty much one brush thickness throughout... makes it look like it was done in bloody Paint, and not in a good way
>>2491720
Hot damn- well, welcome.
Well, what program are you using, and what kind of graphics tablet?
You could also try textured brushes, but I tend to use those more out of laziness because they mask my mistakes in lineart h a
Oh yeah, I'm also open to critiquing colour palettes and shit, if that's what you have trouble with.
>>2487776
ok this drawing is based off of an inside joke among my friends, so it might seem weird/dumb
but does it look ok? I think that for the most part, it's pretty well drawn (for a cartoon). I think that it has a good sense of proportion, and the lines are drawn so it looks a little 3d, or however you would describe that. do you guys think so too?
the hands are shit but I didn't want to sink a lot of time into making them.
>>2491726
It's weird as holy hell, but it looks pretty alright to me beside the kinda bland colours. (Mostly with the hair and skin) However, this is more an opinion on my behalf, as it could be entirely stylistic for you.
I think it would be alright to just throw in shadows beneath the characters, though. It just may kinda 'place' them in the place a bit more, if that makes sense.
Oh yeah, also, why is there shading under the girl's elbow but nowhere else?
![dvz8vRQ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cOT8E5S.jpg "dvz8vRQ[1].jpg")
>>2491723
>Well, what program are you using, and what kind of graphics tablet?
GIMP with a standard Bamboo stylus tablet sans pressure sensitivity - IE the bare minimum, terrible for lineart since I cant get pressure. I've tried textured brushes but I avoid them because of the reason's you've mentioned. I guess I just always figured "once I have my lineart, THEN I can do something with it" but I don't know what to do. I suppose I will work on thickness and texture, and try to launch off that into my rendering, cause it's mostly that where my big issue lies. It doesn't matter if I can make some good lineart if I cant turn it into something well rendered, and that's why I don't do colors yet either cause then they just look shitty, pic related, looks like shit, looks extra shit against high contrast single dark lines, s'pose I could blend up but that's the issue with rendering innit I dunno how to go from lineart to it, regardless of the many flaws my lineart has in the first place
>>2491736
>why is there shading under the girl's elbow but nowehre else
there is also some shading under their chins!
but really, I just didn't want to take the time to shade it or mess around with the colors
i'm mostly posting it becuase I'm kind of surprised that my lineart looks as decent as it does. usually my drawings are just proportionally wonky enough that it looks bad
>>2491744
LONG POST AHOY!!
https://krita.org/ Okay, first off, Annon, meet Krita. It's an open-source art program which is actually said to be able to surpass Photoshop in terms of quality. It is compatible with its own documents, which I can't currently remember the name of, and Photoshop documents, even though they may get a bit distorted. I ALWAYS recommend this out.
Now, for the tablet, always make sure your drivers are updated at the Wacom site. That helps it run well. (Random tip- if pressure sensitivity stops working while you're using it, or when you boot up your computer, you don't always have to restart. Just go to 'services' and then restart the Wacom tablet one.)
Well, with rendering, I'd recommend making 'masks'. These may not work the same way in other programs (I use Photoshop), however, they can be made to work with some creativity. This connects to what I've mentioned prior; if you make sure your lineart is thick outside, then you can select everything outside the character, feather it, inverse selection, then fill that selection. This is your mask. Make sure it's on its own layer.
With shading, though, what you're doing is a bit confusing to me. I can see that you have your light source established, but it seems a lot of the colours are a bit odd and your shading a bit blobular. When it comes to shading and lighting, I avoid using layer modifers (IE multiply) for most things or something like dodge and burn. I instead actually use colour theory woo-woo, but a good rule of thumb is the darker, the nearer purple and, the lighter, the nearer yellow. Yellow approaches orange and then red as it gets darker. Things get more saturated, and then, when they're at about twenty to thirty percent lightness, they rapidly lose that saturation.
That's what I got for now. (Don't wanna go above post limit)
>>2491758
AH NOICE-
I don't blame you; colours are a b i tch
Huuuh well
I gotta admit the lineart DOES impress me a bit
maybe because lineart is my mortal enemy b ut my point still stands
>>2489950
you could say that its an artistic decision instead of a mistake sure, but some viewers like me might see it as a mistake rather than an intentional decision.
maybe give the image more context as to why they would be blending. theres not enough information to tell me why they should be blending.
>>2491708
Sure, it's much appreciated.
>>2491778
should I cut the opacity on the subject in the back?
>>2491789
SORRY THAT TOOK A WHILE-
Anyway, I got it, and I threw my notes down on it because I thought they'd make more sense there-
I also threw in some random ass tips you may or may not be aware of that I just really like using that I thought I may share.
Note the muscular anatomy I drew was all super off the top of my head and really basic just to give an idea- you should definitely look it up on your own.
But yeah! That's what I got.
>>2490840
thanks bro
>>2491205
This is cool and all but why do the views outside of the windows have two totally different perspectives?
>>2491809
Oh shit, man thanks so much. I really needed this.
>>2491835
WELCOME- glad to do it. You can send me other pieces if you want, too. I really don't mind.
>>2491809
feel bad
>>2491044
maybe now?
>>2491880
Why tho
If you're gonna insult me, make it true please.
three or four weeks of school left. took off school and my job to spend 3 months drawing and animating to build up a portfolio and most importantly, start this fucking comic ive been writing since my sophomore year.
pic related, sketches im working on of the main character.
>>2491767
Thanks. I do some of that already, with masks and whatnot, that was just a quick render I did. As for the shading, I know this is gonna sound like an excuse but the character has burnt tips (pic related) so those aren't shadows, unless you mean other areas. I probably shouldnt have added them so lazily cause it did screw up the shading however, just one of the reasons I'm shit at rendering. I do get what you mean by blobular though. I also agree with not using dodge and burn, it's lazy and doesn't look as good as using actual color theory for dark and light. Thanks for the critique/advice. I'll check out krita and work on my line thickness!
>>2491944
it looks fine enough I guess
so long your final products aren't as scribbley and messy as your sketches
also is that a man or a girl on the right? you might want to add more indication as to his/her gender
>>2491950
Welcome, and ahhh alright. Ah yeah no, that excuse actually really does excuse it.
I can also recommend checking out a guy called Kienen Lafferty; I use a similar technique to him when it comes to rendering digitally. He also has TONS of tips, especially for digital. (By the way, I really like her colour scheme-)
ANYWAY, good luck with that! You can also look up the Krita shortcut layout to get started. https://colorathis.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/krita-keys2-8-short_dark2.png
>>2491960
Thanks, I appreciate the help and encouragement!
>>2491944
I like how free your style feels, admittedly, although I'm finding a lot of the smaller details harder to make out. I'm mostly noticing her facial features looking a bit different between the two. (Mostly the eyes, eyebrows, and a bit of the nose)
As for design, I find it to look distinguishable and well-put together. It doesn't feel bland and open, but it also isn't clouded with too many details. I only want to note that the legs on the right have a lot of detail when compared to a lot of the upper portion of the drawing, though, which makes them draw a lot of attention downward. (This could be just the current state of sketch, though, and fix itself with further rendering)
>>2491955
yeah this is concept creation scribbling. trying to make super clean lines is toxic for my creation process.
and i do want her to look slightly more 'feminine' but not overly so. its a thin line i gotta work on.
her face in detail is how i like it. just want the rest of the figure to sell that aesthetic.
>>2491964
WELCOME!
>>2491966
wow youre right. i need to work on drawing the same face from all angles..
even in that other picture, she looks totally different, yikes.
>>2491979
Faces are a son of a bitch... if you want my advice, which is prolly a bit mediocre and/or things you may already have been doing/were gonna do, here it is;
Some people do really tedious line stuff across the page (I think you know what I mean; aligning the eyes, nose, jaw, chin, top of the head, and even cheekbones sometimes), and others just draw the various aspects from different angles.
You could maybe JUST draw her face, too?
You could also copy her face onto another layer and put it closer to what you're trying to draw so you can compare the two and the measurements.
>>2491967
>leaving your utensil on the paper
OK WE GET IT YOU DREW THAT TAKE IT OUT OF THE FUCKING PICTURE
>>2491981
i know i feel you, but see how much your likes/reblogs increase when you add a filter and a random utensil.
>>2491980
that last one seems more up my angle, thank you. i know we learned that in my figure drawing class but i swear i forget all my fucking principles once i go digital.
feel like ive had this character so long in the back of my head that i feel like i know her by heart when obv i dont lmao. pic related, her a year n a half ago.
>>2491987
Ah ye welcome.
Ech, I've seen a lot of people just drop shit they definitely K N OW when they switch well most mediums-
I really like this picture, honestly- the shading colours look a bit bland, but I like the style of shadows.
Do you have any completed pieces you wanna post, annon?
(This is unrelated, but it's honestly impressive how consistent you've kept her over a year, even with the slight accidental changes, damn.)
>>2491987
>see how much your likes/reblogs increase when you add a filter and a random utensil.
Well, just on the note of concept designs-
I took an old design sketch, then I started dicking with it and refining it to improve a character design. (For a character I like to call 'Birdmanwhore') The jank anatomy from past-me still haunts the drawing (long torso, the shoulders are all uneven, something's up with the ankles, there's hair just... sticking out like a plank.), but the shading shouldn't be as painful.
It's a runaway sketch to be honest.
>>2489102
Different anon, but would you happen to know what brush/settings he uses? This is really the style I'm going for in PS
>>2492007
>>2491297
>I use the crayon tool on Paint Tool SAI for lineart. Just messed around with the settings of it until I got something I liked.
thanks so much!
>>2491992
nah faam :/. like i love going to school for art but completing side projects becomes a fantasy. reasons why im hyped for the summer (last year i took classes and worked). pic related only page i could finish cause i stayed up till 4am doing it. woke up disgusted lmaoo
>>2492003
not sure of what emotion youre trying to convey
>>2491827
SHIT
>>2492025
wELL HOT DAMN - that sounds like a son of a bitch, I'm sorry
aren't mornings fun in general tho-
wELL I'D SAY WORTH IT EITHER WAY- the background figures are a little awkward, but the feeling of the piece is very fluid. I'd only personally recommend putting the highest contrast on points of focus. (Is the flag a point of focus or-)
>>2492038
(....it is not)
loll good eye i think that would help the piece..
>>2492039
(o no)
Yee-
Contrast and all that shit that goes into design is always kinda a pain.
Basically, what you want to stand out is what will draw the most attention.
With colours, this can be;
The lightest colours in a dark palette or vice versa
A cool colour among warm or vice versa in a palette
The highest saturated part in a low saturated palette or vice versa
A place of high contrast
The place that is less blurry (as you got there)
... and well that's the shit I can remember
love me some colour palettes
Oh yeah you got any tips you found out that are kinda lesser-known??
>>2491800
you obviously have a story and context in mind with those characters, but im uncertain what kind of narrative you are delivering with the drawing,as in, what are you trying to tell the viewer.
maybe if you can answer that question you can make stronger decisions on your drawing
I wonder if there are any really good stylized artists out there willing to take a student under their wing like an apprentice, why doesnt this happen, do you guys think if I message a bunch of them one will take me seriously
Half study, half ref. In general, not original. Still trying to improve my arsenal of colors.
>>2491275
dude , i like rough lineart , but man ..... i dunno , i kinda realised it's a sketch but the armour looks wrong and same with the face .
Take your time , maybe 3 months and draw the human body until you puke and then redraw this. After that , you will notice all your mistakes and literally want to kill your past-self
>>2491525
okey , those legs don't make any sense , it's supposed to be a dynamic pose and yet it looks like she is retarded , those legs are broken
>>2492181
Because the student always kills the master in the end.
>>2492254
get out
>>2492255
What the fuck was that for? See promo, steals everything Jeff taught him and opens up his own school.
>>2492268
Proko
>>2491921
you should feel bad about chicken scratching and now showing form in a redline. Especially for the feet.
>>2492290
I never done a redline, and I just did what I thought would help the artist.
not sure about the colors
>>2492353
Maybe decrease the saturation on the green? Or possibly make it more yellow to warm it and draw more attention to the cooler purple?
>>2492353
i think the colours are nice overall. the colour of the cast shadow of the guy, table, chairs, etc. seem off in the bottom panel
>>2492253
Artist here. Got any tips to improve the legs? The intent is not making her look retarded.
real quick, whats a good res to resize to?
>>2492385
not him the the leg twists and angles are far too exaggerated, if you pull back the pose and make the movements less drastic maybe by like 20% it would look more natural. Try doing the pose your self and look in the mirror or look at references.
the length of the limbs are also slightly too long in my opinion
>>2492419
Long edge 1k
>>2488607
Well it was good way to experiment with stuff. Putting this off now.
>>2492521
what are you even doing nigga?
sharpen>vibrance>ca
>>2492564
dont ever do that again please
>>2492427
Ohh, okay, thank's so much.
I guess I should study figures and anatomy more.
>>2488703
>2488703
I hate myself for posting that sketch...
>>2492591
Embrace it, it has been immortalized.
>>2492602
I'm gonna regret that toaster bath for decades
>>2492572
do what?
>>2492352
its still a redline no matter how you slice it.
>>2492773
stop posting
>>2492773
Why do you feel the need to be such an antagonizing prick to people?
I agree with what you told him about the chickenscratch, but unlike you, he's got a constructive attitude and is going out if his way to help people with less skill than him. He might be a beginner himself, but he's doing a fine job guiding the absolute newbies that no one ever wants to bother with.
Tbh, not sure I've seen your art on here or not, since I just popped it cause I read these lasts couple posts of yours, and followed up to see the full convo. Honestly, you don't sound like you're very skilled either. Skilled artists tend to be a lot more humble. Second, even if you were, with that attitude, you'll never make it. So for the sake of the quality if the board, either drop the pretentious act, or kill yourself. We don't need more wannabes like you shitting up the place.
Any feedback on my sketch so far?
one I did 1 hour ago...
Okay, here's something interesting.
I started fooling around with the 3D models in Clip Studio Paint. I didn't like them that much, because they seemed too stiff and a hassle to pose correctly. That, and the proportions are always sort of weird.
But I just traced it quickly to get the pose down, and then refined that sketch sligthly, correcting the stiffness and the weird proportions. And it was pretty fun to do! I can see this becoming a new tool in the artistic arsenal, so I'm glad I gave it a shot. If you're in the same boat, try it.
heres a somewhat recent page of my webcomic, i feel sorta ok about it so rip it apart
Man I haven't posted here in forever it seems
>>2493261
what's your blog senpai?
>>2492564
Looks like she dipped herself in oil here.
There is some OK stuff in here
>>2492592
Ghost guy in the back looks peculiarly large. Nice wings
>>2492869
I like the face, though the line work isn't really my style maybe clean it up a bit
>>2493022
Neck is a little long, facial features a little compressed
>>2493232
The gradient on the bottom is a little harsh, lower the opacity or don't take it all the way to black.
>>2493261
Cute - make the fingers and toes a little more deliberate?
>>2493293
How come your blog is only one page? What happened to the cute buges? ;-;
i posted this like one minute ago, the colors and stuff are directly related to the plot and the state of mind of the main character, however im on the fence about how to make colors clash to convey tension and anxiety and yet not come off completely incoherent and too busy. if anyone has any tips about that id love to hear it
>>2493288
also thanks!
>>2493155
looks completely unnecessary considering the 3d model gives almost no valuable information.
I can draw a stick man and some simple shapes to indicate the rib cage and pelvis and have more information than that model.
Maybe if the 3D model is higher quality it would save some planning but drawing it out seems more reliable.
>>2493363
Not him but what if the model gave more information? I agree here it's rather useless and one should use his time learning anatomy instead but otherwise I wouldn't throw the using a 3d model idea to the trash just yet.
Fuckin' appeal, how does it work?
Ignoring some of the other issues for now, are the boobs too big? I'm undecided if I want to sacrifice general appeal for rockin' tits and I wonder if I've added a few more extraneous details than necessary as well, like the back of the helmet in particular looks a bit noisy to me in hindsight.
>>2493531
They're way too big and cloth doesn't stick to them like that and they're not supposed to be flying like that or be that wide without extending correspondingly into space or not being part of the ribcage or I don't even know. The "hair" looks bullshit too, identical in all views.
>>2493531
It lacks appeal because your design lacks clarity. Is she supposed to be a child? A sexy midget with a big rack? A young woman with stylized proportions? It's really impossible to tell.
>>2493540
>a child
This nigga
Good points all around though; I guess I'm not sure how to visually articulate all of that stuff in a one-off turnaround without proper setting, the fact she's a young woman wouldn't be as apparent without seeing how other characters looked. I suppose adding an extra head or half-a-head to her height wouldn't be a bad idea all things considered though either.
>>2493363
Helps when you're trying to figure out weird poses in an unfamiliar perspective.
My picture wasn't the best example of that, haha. But as always, it's just a bit of help, it's still smarter to simply study as much anatomy as possible.
>>2493296
Because I'm terrible at keeping blogs :3c
Okey , let's say you have a style , i mean , an actual style , you have all the fundamentals , you know how drawing in general works .
If you copy another artist while you have already have a style , would that be a bad thing? Let's say you really like the way the artist draws hair and for a while you copy it and you combine it with your way of drawing hair style .
I heard alot of mangakas who have what is called ''influences''.
>this is my best finished shit
I have a long way to go ;_;
>>2493676
It would help if you paint grayscale for a while desu. And then use colors . The shading is not that good and the choice of colors. Watch alot of speedpaints
>>2488171
3 looks like Big Sister from Bioshock
I only want to work with black/white and greyscale.
>>2493690
>>2493676
Do the pattern manually. Those pasted-on stars look like ass, they don't conform to the shape of the fabric at all. At least transform the shape if you don't want to draw it.
>>2493535
It's supposed to be form fitting clothing, I guess I'm not sure what you mean by 'cloth doesn't stick to them like that', if you could go into more detail I'd appreciate it. I understand the gripe about the hair, but I felt like if I actually drew it how it'd look as an ovoid shape with a little nub embedded somewhere therein I feel like it'd look quite a bit worse, it was kind of a deliberate liberty I'd taken if that makes sense. M-...muh style!
>>2492808
hurt my feelings
wip practicing anatomy more than anything, pls no bully
>>2493770
It's a whole lot better than nosefags art.
crits pls???
>>2493690
looks pretty good, liking the contrast. But work on anatomy a bit more to make the body look more interesting. Also maybe try to put in some meaning in your drawings? What are these things around her? plants? 7,9/10 tho
>>2493692
I like the darkness but maybe do some painting studies too just to figure out a decent style and to learn values etc
>>2489679
I really like this.
>>2493780
nice I like your style, but her right leg seems to be broken.
>>2493780
unsexy
no soul
you lack the spark
>>2493780
meh
ok I guess
>>2492869
>My potions are too strong for you traveler
>>2492007
>>2492007
Alternative art thread so I hope this is the right place for this, but how can I get into graffiti-style art (just on paper)? I love the way it looks and I'd love to make some of my own but I suck
gonna try color it later
did this earlier this morning. its a concept for a chess rook as an armored elf.
comments/crits welcome
>>2493925
Do you mean lettering or cutsie monsters and stuff?
In either case, I'd say get a pack of brush-tip markers in black and start with just black and white and move to color later.
Be sure to grab some decent cardstock too, none of that shitty printer paper
>>2493974
By elf do you mean tolkien elf or more Keebler elf sized? Because if he former, the arms look really stubby, and the hands very tiny.
That said it's kinda nice, would be nice to see bishop, pawn, knight, etc
>>2493962
Nice, i like the lines. Digital pencil is very 'in' rn it seems.
>>2494041
keebler elf sized... here is an example of the knight
>>2494041
heres the bishop
>>2494046
It's not surprise, really. At least to me it's the superior brush for digital drawing. Has a nice feel to it.
>>2493925
You mean weird looking letters?
Its called calligraphy.
>>2494066
thx anon
>>2493962
B l o g ?
>>2493962
don't you post on /jp/?
>>2493962
are the eyes a little too close?
