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This is one of my first pieces that I used heavy pastels on, what do you think?
>>2402293
oh you.
repost this I guess. Didn't know the other thread was deaders. Cross between rachel from blade runner and audrey hepburn
>>2402301
Neat! I like it!
Working on something abstract and need my shit kicked in.
How do I color a greyscale painting without losing all of my values in photoshop?
(Can't post my work since it is furry, so substituting with a greyscale rabbit)
not a drawing but i want to show off
>>2402337
it looks like a photoshop filter
>>2402337
I've seen the original. I hope you're happy tarnishing my memory of it.
>>2402301
I am inspired by your art, so I completely repainted my own version from scratch. Enjoy!
Need crit on composition.
>>2402376
it needs a focus point. literally anything will make it more interesting
>>2402384
I agree with this. I honestly like painting boring-ass landscapes more than anything, but having something to focus on really does make it better. I would put it more middle-left though.
>>2402376
I like how it feels on its own without a focal point. It feels so vast and free.
>>2402376
focal point can also be color (for example) and not A Thing. it just needs some kind of contrast. it doesn't help that you have everything neatly enclosed and roughly symmetrical.
>>2402388
Good point, think the lion fixed it.
>>2402393
Thanks. Hope I didn’t lose that!
>>2402401
I thought enclosing with foreground elements was a good thing? Ah, tried to get rid of the boring symmetry, mostly applied your advice to the second one.
>>2402293
post link in the old thread you shit
>>2402443
holy shit that looks good. i have no idea how you fuckers do this vanishing point shit.
nice work.
>>2402464
try "How to draw" by Scott Robertson
>>2402469
ill check it out, thanks for the pointer :)
i havent drawn in a half year and have very clearly forgotten how muscles work.
would anyone be so kind to ravage my asshole with a (hunched) redline?
Roll and post
>>2402323
Set the layer mode for the colors to "Color". It pays attention to hue while ignoring value, I believe.
>>2402482
Seems fine to me.
>>2402464
I had the same fear, I always felt that perspective is something that's very difficult, reading posts with lots of long words and terms. It's actually not that hard. One of the harder parts of studying from a book or by yourself is less courage and the possibility of postponing it. I didn't try learning perspecitve out of fear, but when I started my architecture prework, my teacher made me do 2 point perspective, and holy shit it's easy at the basic level. Not that hard even when you get more complex. Don't be afraid of it, perspective really isnt that hard. The harder part would be knowing which sort of perspective and where to use it.
>>2402511
huh, really? it feels so off to me, there was a clear feeling of my hand and brain not really working in sync. its also a kind of flat pose, so maybe thats whats bothering me. i'll be reworking it anyway
>>2402572
Looking at it again, his biceps come down way too far; he wouldn't be able to bend his arms. If you're concerned about the pose, I think making his front foot come toward us a bit would help. Mako is stiff but I figured that's what you're going for.
>>2402301
Replied to you in the other threat before seeing the new one:
"It reads more as Audrey Hepburn, maybe Rachels hairstyle would've worked better?
Anyway, love your stuff, keep going"
>>2402583
the arms were my largest point of irritance (the torso would be too if i didnt cover up the whole thing har har) so i'm glad its not just me. as for mako, shes always kind of lacked a sense of spacial presence in the show due to her jumping around all the time, but it might also come off as a crutch kinda deal, i might just fix her as well. thanksss
>>2402293
Tried to make the forms read better while still keeping it loose
>>2402421
enclosing is a good thing, esp when you're enclosing around a focal point so you can lead the viewer's eye to it (wink) but you had every element in the pic (rocks, mountains, clouds) going from outside to in. and having everything lead to the center is generally hard to pull off without feeling stale. that said, I really like the changes you've made and I think both versions are much better for it.
skull and head practise.
what do you think?
>>2402638
I'd really like to see you push the value a bit. Maybe even just the background. I feel like everything is playing in the mid range and you need some contrast somewhere.
>>2402510
Roll
>>2402510
rollinnn'
>>2402323
nice rabbit
>>2402337
looks like autism
>>2402510
roll
>>2402511
in the photo her head reads as a ball, and you made her face super horselike long, with a skinny jaw, but the skinny jaw isn't there in the photo to be exaggerated. What should be exaggerated is how round her face is, with huge eyes and minuscule mouth, her nose should be kept normal size in contrast maybe. This creepy girl is how anime would look in real life.
>>2402482
only flaw i see is hands have no palms and that ear, really good desu
>>2402510
here I roll
honestly just fuck faces in general
Not my own, but for a friend. What can I tell him to help him improve?
Struggling with the eyes : Is the reflections seem natural? And what about the size of the iris, wich one is too big or too small ? And finally the braid looks pretty flat, I don't know how to correct that.
>>2402846
Left iris looks a bit small but also it looks like the angles of the eyes, nose and mouth don't match.
>>2402510
roll
>>2402846
so qt. post some tits photo reference
>>2402482
The biggest problem with this is you are compressing the torso. You are drawing the shoulders and then you shorten the stomach and draw the hips. Look at how the girl's shoulders align with her hips instead of her bellybutton. I feel like this is a common mistake, as I have the same bad habit, and I would suggest you do some 8 heads anatomy exercises to correct this.
>>2402838
There is a bunch of stuff to work on, this is pretty bad and would require a lot of pointers, but if your friend doesn't want to post here, why should we critique it? He will just dismiss what you say to him.
Can some draw me a person sitting in a car, but from the perspective of someone standing in a toll booth? I can't seem to visualize or find any examples online.
>>2402895
Yeah, I just talked to him and he's the kind of guy that hears what he wants. He doesn't take advice well.
>>2402537
her chin is unbalanced but the actual facial features look amazing
>>2402510
r0lling
>>2402510
Roll
shitty phone photo, but meh. i got some new colors and wanted to try them out on this one. emerald green and pthalo blue are friggin awesome. and i got beige. beige is great too.
Complete newfag to drawing here, still in the process of reading Loomis. This is a sketch I made about a month ago, just for the fun of it. Thoughts?
>>2402846
droopy eye is droopy
Just finished this up.
>>2403032
Love it.
>>2403032
looks like you are thinking too hard about fabric and hands. the feet are covered and you can't see the rest of the body but i'll assume you have a hard time with that stuff too. it doesn't look effortless. just do some hand practice and fabric practice from life
wouldn't be a bad idea to practice drawing your hair too it looks a bit too solid in your picture.
>>2402677
Maybe...like this
>>2402371
Are you Nadar?
>>2403046
What do you mean by "it doesn't look effortless"?
>>2403067
its like i said you are thinking too much about what hands faces hair fabric and all that looks. and you won't get more confident by drawing from imagination constantly. gotta get back on the life drawing wagon
WIP
>>2403085
Thanks bruv
Hit close to home
I felt ashamed of uploading this shitty sketch the other day, so I decided to make it less shitty
Something before I go to sleep.
>>2402510
Roll-u
>>2403109
Have you ever done any studies of emotions? I think it would be very beneficial for you to try and push the expressions drawn in your portraits
>>2403157
doesn't get much more generic than that rene
ayy lmao
2/3rds done penciling
Thoughts on these? I feel like I'm doing something wrong that's very obvious but I can't seem to find out what.
>>2403109
The face is kind of strange to me. The mouth stands out in particular, I'm not sure exactly what, but it seems off somehow. The expression is really blank and off putting as well. The hands are weird too, for me the fingers are disproportionate and the anatomy is a little wonky. But that's just my opinion. Besides that, really nice!
>>2403157
From a technical standpoint, The composition is OK but it's really dark. The clouds are even black for some reason? And you need to work on the values a little bit. The cathedral should be the focus point, with more detail and brighter lighting, to guide the eye there. Right now the brightest spots I see are on the ground in front of and to the left of the cathedral. And that's where my eye is guided more than anything. From a creative standpoint, it's a little bland and generic right now, but that's completely OK if it's just for practice.
>>2403198
Nice! I like the coat on the right. Her fingers are sausages tho and her face looks like ayylien. Also she has no clavicles. I like the shading though!
>>2402834
Try to sketch a little cleaner. Right now it's super chicken-scratch. Regarding the face, he doesn't really have that much of a jawbone, the lighting makes it look like he's puffing out his cheek. The ear is low as well, as a general rule the lobe should start at the same height as the bottom of the nose, and the tip of the ear should be at the same height as the eyebrow.
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I know I'm not really that great but I hope my crit helps anyway.
Birthday gift for a friend.
I just drew his character, some kind of neckless yellow guy...
>>2403213
want to see it when its finished
this would require a real scanner. Starting to think if I should even continue this sketch, idea itself needs a kick.
Sketch I did for a friend. Am I doing well for a freshman?
>>2403109
making that duck face
>>2403300
>freshman
i hope you're talking about college anon
and even then you're lacking in fundamentals (all of them. every single one). take a trip to the sticky & beginner thread pls
>>2403168
Just did some, thanks
>>2403219
Thank you, I'm quite surprised you liked it despite its flaws
>>2403317
Gone!
>>2402416
changed her face a bit
>>2402510
rorrin
>>2402956
I think the chin is fine
I've seen several photos of people with that angle and the jaw/chin are never truly even
>>2402537
nice, is this an idol? she looks familiar
>>2403383
>just did some thanks
you obviously didn't study expressions very hard.
Keeping the eyes wide open and the mouth ridiculously petite makes her look like a porcelain doll.
When a person smiles (genuinely), it's not just their mouth that changes by curving upwards.
Their eyes crinkle up, their cheeks get pushed up and their mouth widens.
>>2403508
Sorry, you're right. I guess I got lost in the rendering
Looks ok to me, but I may be just too close to the picture. Any glaring flaws in this?
Should I make the vignetted part more defined or should I make the front wrinkles less defined or leave it?
>>2403119
I like it. Is it a study? Looks like Star Wars
>>2403559
you're not pushing your values hard enough. definitely make the wall behind the thing's ass much darker, and I would expect some stronger rimlighting from that window behind them.
>>2403528
are you using colored pencils? If so, I made this real quick to demonstrate how to achieve a full range of values/saturation, instead of that grainy translucent coloring you have going on.
>>2403508
You're not taking into account the context, what he's drawing is an impossible ideal of an already idealized standard.
Based on the nose and shape of the eyes he's clearly drawing an Asian female so I think you should draw your comparison to that.
Also it should be clear from the drawing that it's not an ear-to-ear smile, just a small grin which shouldn't curve the mouth that much if at all.
There's even a term for East Asian skin/face which is the "porcelain complexion" which draws a comparison to what a porcelain doll would look like.
>>2403098
Just realized I didn't optimize the image size at all, sorry.
>>2403566
Thanks anon. I'm just afraid that when I add color to it its going to get really really dark. Also, when I print out anything I digitally paint it ends up being way too dark so I hope that if I avoid the 10th step then it won't get blown out.
although I admit I need to add way more lights
>>2402638
not sure this was worth the paintover but just to show you how values can be pushed. ur best one yet desu
Welp, I've never done digital art up until today, when my buddy let me use his ancient cintiq. I'm not entirely sure how to use photoshop, but with research I should be able to figure it out. I'm liking the feel of it so far and the results are better than I expected. Before I go back and continue with it, what are some things to keep in mind? I'm planning to fix the irises, but what else can I do to improve the face?
>>2403623
You should take a screenshot
Nose looks too much to their right
>>2403576
Ah, didn't realise she was Asian, assumed it was simply the remnants of anime style (like final fantasy) - the green eyes and light colored hair threw me off.
Never heard of that term 'porcelain complexion', but that definitely fits with what he's going with.
Regardless of whether he's going for a wide grin or not, I still think that some of what I mentioned can be applied or hinted at to make the expression look more natural.
This guy is sposed to have lots of eyes but I haven't settled on a configuration yet.
Looks kinda cool with no eyes though.
>>2403665
[trypophobia triggered]
Help?
>>2403667
>>2403670
Great idea anon :)
>>2403019
great colours, like the composition
>>2403678
I shit you not I felt my eyes roll up for a second and feeling light headed and feeling light headed faint just looking at the fucking thumbnail.
>>2403662
the eyes clash so much with the rest its a little funny desu
>>2403678
not triggering my trypophobia, the depth on the holes is too undefined
>>2403692
shouldnt you be pleased about that?
>>2403694
i am, but i'm just trying to be helpful.
although now im sitting here thinking about that hentai comic with the holes and its making my skin itch....
oil on canvas work in progress
>>2403692
Is this better? I was never really going for trypophobia but it's kinda cool actually.
>>2403695
Yeah I just made a bunch of circles n duplicated the layer with a bit of a transformation, took like two seconds.
>>2403662
needs more SMUG anon
>>2403706
holy shit this legit gave me a tingling sensation
gj anon
>>2403706
now put eyes in the holes.... dooooo it!
>>2403711
Thank you, I couldn't have done it without your irrational fear of small holes.
>>2403706
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF
>>2403706
you're gettin there, im not feeling icky yet, but i don't think my trypophobia is very extreme either
>>2403712
Alright I'm gonna quit spamming the thread with this guy now.
>>2403414
Kim Jaekyung! And thank you.
I'm shit at art.
Hello guys, nice to meet yall
>>2402597
I'm having a hell of a time finding large clean reference of rachel. Her hair is very unique and most of the ref I find is either a bad angel, too dark, or too small :(
>>2402482
i like this, this is nice. gj
>>2403027
Loomis, gotta read it all!
>>2403570
I was using color pencils and thank you for the tutorial image. I really do hate how weak color pencils tones usually are. With the blending part do you recommend using anything in particular?
>>2402510
>>2403675
Tfw ignored
>>2403992
these look great, are you using any kind of ref?
>>2402510
roll
>>2403219
i generally paint over my sketch lines anyways.
>>2404016
thanks, didn't use anything for these
>>2402668
Thank you,that makes sense. Gonna move on the rendering.
this was fun.
>>2404117
draw more landscapes!
>>2404127
maybe next spring/summer, not really finding the reason to do now.
can someone critique my figure drawing?
>>2404136
next? or this?
>>2404184
this most likely, if everything goes as planned.
>>2404211
sorry for dumping, I found this one I did few weeks ago. I think I'm falling again for pencils.
>>2404138
Anatomy is screwed up and you are chicken scratching. How long is this pose? It looks like you wasted time on the face that could have been better spent getting the figure more accurate, assuming this isn't from a photo. Also don't skip gesture and construction, it looks like you just jumped right into drawing contours.
>>2403576
That's a good point too, itr was supposed to be a small smile but even so I think it did not works as I had hoped, thanks anyway!
>>2403612
Thanks anon, I will try to take it present, however I have noticed that some of you, compress the range of value and manage the contrast in that range, maybe I'm wrong but I've noticed Catbib does this, his paintings come off as quite low contrasted but his values are still quite effective.
Btw it feels weird that some of you like these more than my tight pieces :S
>>2403662
You know at some point I think I deviated for the worse on that, I just noticed an earlier version which I honestly like better than my latest iteration, either way thanks for the advice
>>2404236
really nice anon
>>2403213
Looks nice! Crop and resize next update anon.
it's lovely but i would't have used that green, it looks it's kinda too saturated
>>2404245
it was 15 minutes
the studio I go to doesn't do anything longer for drawing poses it's a bit shitty
>>2404266
>>2404439
Look at the thumbnail, her nose is really high up
>>2404363
Try timing yourself like 5 minutes gesture, 5 minutes construction + anatomy, then 5 minutes on adding tone. Then change around your time allotment based on what you have trouble with. Also when doing any pose under like 20 minutes you can just do a block in of the face and move on, even as little as drawing a vertical line for the center of the face and a horizontal line for the eyes gets the job done. Remember to squint!
>>2404464
thanks. I think i'm pretty ok with gestures but the proportions in the gestures can be a little funky.
with the gesture, should I work on proportion, or leave that for the construction portion?
>>2404469
It's good to keep proportion in mind while doing gesture, but don't be a slave to it. The gesture step is your chance to really push the drawing and get some energy into it, each subsequent step will sap away some of that energy as you refine it so don't be timid.
>>2404474
what anatomy book would you recommend?
I just dl'd bridgman but it's a bit confusing although i'm trying to work through it.
I tried vilppu but i just made weird blob people (they weren't terrible but he didn't really teach anatomy)
I guess i'm just a bit lost on how/where to start learning/incorporating anatomy into my life studies
I had trouble finding planes on her face to make way for brighter-lighted areas. Everything is all rounded and flexed with that expression and it looks weird.
>>2404454
Gracias primo!
>>2404478
so don't make that expression
>>2404558
>>2402293
am i irakli yet?
>>2404580
it has that unsettling trans face
>>2404574
I'll have you know my mother made that face when she had CANCER.
Yeah bet you feel pret-ty shitty right about now.
Gonna drop this, I feel too constricted to make any substantial changes and was too indecisive when it comes to the actual design.
Would love some feedback still
>>2404599
the symbol drawn in sword didnt help in the slightest
Im having trouble with the anatomy. Also i cant find good refs of a woman in this angle.
Redlines or references would be very much appreciated <:
>>2404601
Yeah it obviously looks like an afterthought, I used reference though.
>>2404582
>it has that unsettling trans face
What do you think makes it look like that?
>>2404624
different guy but she has only bottom teeth and a waaay too big upper lip
>>2404625
Haha can't unse now.
How did I fuck up so bad man
>>2404625
The teeth are awful but I do like the big upper lip.
Lack of nostrils are unsettling as well. It looks like she has two flat holes under the nose
>>2404599
Not a fix precisely. I only have a trackpad atm, so I just wanted to toy around.
>>2404609
bump. halp guise
>>2404756
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>>2404117
quick question but is your name Dayi? idkk your portrait looks like a friend...
>>2402510
rolloooooooo
>>2402510
rull
>>2404756
Why would you destroy her face like that
please be gentle, this is my 4th project. It isn't finished, but I would like feed back on how I should finish it.
>>2404969
I fucked up that picture. jesus christ. i (obviously) ignored everything that wasn't surrounding him
hands and faces. ive been lazy these past two days but hopefully tomorrow is more productive
>>2404999
You should get a trip
>>2404999
Why do you draw yourself so often? It's really good though
>>2404999
seems the exact same as everything else you've posted. Move on.
c'est un desastre
ignore the badly photoshopped in headdress thing its for college project I'll fix it later
Woodblock
>>2405151
Sorry about file size. Here's his brother in death that I posted a while ago, just feels wrong to post one without the other.
It isn't cropped but it's all I have at the moment. I've honestly just been working on observing light and shadows, and trying capture it as best as I can to get better lately. This shot is rather...narrow, but I drew as I was looking at the desk and whatever fit, just fit.
i just finished this! pls r8
will continue later
need to fix the mouth
Trying to understand butts
>>2405264
forget image
>>2405267
that is fucking sexy dude
>>2405281
Thanks bruv. /s/ is my go-to for female refs.
I'm trying to understand how to draw fatty parts of the body.
>>2405114
Try to simplify the values a lot more before jumping into fully rendering it
Holy shit is everyone's drivers down?
>>2405348
wtf are you talking about
>>2405078
He said he doesn't go out much so he draws whatever he can which is himself
>>2405114
j'aimerais bien faire des désastres comme ca
>>2404969
Who let you out of the beginner thread m8?
welp... i tried, i guess
>>2405151
>woodblock
>MDF
>>2404896
thats not me and most likely not.
Last nights progress, trying to figure out some kind of mashup with Muchas goddesses, cosmonauts, birds and icons.
Could be easily turned into triptych, might even try it.
>>2404115
>>2405386
Calm down m8, take all the time you need. A week long study might do you a world of good.
rate my fairy cannon
>>2405365
Myself m8
Hope it's not too late to get some crit
>>2405546
too much contrast!
trying to figure out background, maybe something more vague and less detailed?
sorry for the rough phone pic, I need to get this scanned when finally done.
>>2405638
thats not a landscape
This is my artwork I hope to be able to inspire someone out there.
>>2402293
precursor to color studies
>>2405770
thank you for this, ive never been so inspired in my life
>>2402293
Ought to link to the reference thread next time
been slowing down on the drawing and picking up painting a bit more. got inspired by the Giorgio de Chirico thread and decided to do some kinda expressionist surrealist whatever
>>2405967
subtle creepiness
>>2404478
Personally I love it. But I'm not as big of a fan for the small one in the bottom left corner
>>2402293
>>2405985
artichoke hands...
>>2405985
The head/face seem like they're squashed a bit too much
>>2405985
head looks off and hands look like a mess fiz em and itll look better
>>2406086
aside from the glaring anatomical issues and the clear lack of reference.. what the fuck am I even looking at Is a dude with a box for a head and a deformed hand going to pass this crippled women one of those looking glasses they use at operas? also if I didn't mention it that anatomy is fucked beyond belief. she has no back, it just goes from torso and chest to ass
why post this for anything more then a giggle at your expense?
>>2405985
I'd stick my face between that thigh gap. your line work is really, really messy, the hair is a little unclear and you might be better off in the stylized thread but, hey, raven gave me a leotard fetish as a kid and I would stick my face between those thighs mmmf
First ever digital drawing (just got wacom intuos tablet) and first drawing in about 4 years... rip me apart. also WIP
>>2406119
S-sticky
>>2404609
Wellp. Started rendering it. T totally not inspired by Ruan jia. I feel like a deformed retarded version of him.
Trying to figure out how the fuck metal works
>>2402293
fukin hair
>>2406125
>dat face
holy shit, anon
>>2405386
don't shade like dat, also lowered the eye a bit.
>>2406125
I feel like the angles of the face dont match up
>>2406215
Thank you :)
No i dont. This is my first time posting my art onto the internet.
Some quick still lifes i did through out the day
>>2406140
>Trying to figure out how the fuck metal works
Then do a study
Get something metal and shine light on it
>>2406253
You seem to have some difficulty with cylindrical forms in perspective.
>>2406253
Try to block in larger areas of colour, looks like you're getting distracted by all the subtle variations before having a solid form down
>>2406253
What does one learn from a still life?
>>2404904
ditched the rtd prompt, just done this
>>2406253
wtf... are you a swefag, Nile?
in the middle of this.... i know somethings off, tell me what it is would you?
I was told to go back to greyscale just did a quick "dwarf warrior" what do you think?
>>2406528
Holy fuck how do I keep posting shit sideways I am fully autistic today
>>2406535
3.12 MB for a doodle. Do you think bandwidth grows on trees?
>>2405151
wooooop
