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>General resources :
http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/
http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
http://characterdesigns.com/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
>fellowBro's books :
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>Figure Drawing Tool:
http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://posemaniacs.com/
>Photoshop Brushes
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bottom from Midsummer Night's Dream
study of a neat painting I saw recently, Edwin Landeer's I think
>>2396552
You chose the ugliest pic for OP
>>2396596
I'm fond of the face, but the body feels a bit flat. I think its because of the way the left arm overlaps the left leg.
wip from life
doodling is fun!
>>2396643
would it be better if i flipped the left arm maybe?
>>2396718
Beautiful, i like it
Do you have a tumblr? I like your blog and i want to see more of your art.
>>2396776
blog?
So what do you guys think?
>>2396600
That was the best thing from last thread, but feel free to create the next thread with your own pick next time
not really looking for critique, just wanna post this.
>>2396835
wth I gave you a critique last thread. Am I chopped liver?
>>2396917
I'd like to hear what else might be wrong with it.
I listen to what everybody says.
hands
>>2397063
could you put them all together into one progress pic? i wanna see how much you actually improved
>>2397069
The answer is none. The only thing that changed was that god awful hatching.
>>2396552
I'm sorry dude I don't like this. I'm still gonna call you waifu-chan though.
>>2397074
cmon put them together, im not saving em and cant be bothered to dig em in the archive
>>2397081
Jesus fuck. I'm not him! Please do not wish that upon me. The archive is down anyway. Don't worry though, he's a big fan of spamming threads with his shit, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to oblige your request.
>>2397082
oh i thought you were him
https://boards.fireden.net/ic
is still up
>>2397090
Oh I didn't know there was another archive, thanks. I don't think you could search them out since he doesn't use a name and searching just 'hands' is going to bring up half the history of the board. Still I'm sure he's compiling some macro for you and some mature and articulate jeer for me such as *fart noise* as we speak.
>>2396835
back to loomis with you.
>>2397107
Cunt youre lucky that i dont know where you live
>>2397116
do you even loomis bro?
>>2397082
>>2397069
im more than happy to oblige your request. i didnt draw any in december
crits appreciated!! any comments on what's working or not working would be great.
>>2397130
where are all the sharp corner straight line hatched ones? but have to say, they are getting rather nice! also what the fuck happend in november?
>>2397140
dont like these as much as your photo ref studies
whats working? the hard square gradient / texture on the foxes neck, thats working wonders!
btw, could you maybe do a workflow step by step process picture? im quite curious how you approach drawing things, just printscreen a piece at various stages of completion
>>2396835
>https://boards.fireden.net/ic
The perspective of the box of his head is fucked around the side of his face. The entire side of his face. Just practice constructing more faces from reference.
>>2397143
>what the fuck happend in november
not much of anything according to my 2015 folder
>>2397063
Fuck dude help me what am I doing wrong :(
>>2397155
this
>(1.26 MB, 3264x2448)
get the fuck out until you learn to post
>>2397155
drawing hands from imagination or photos instead of drawing your own hands.
>>2397155
Study the elbow's position and relation within the arm. You're not understanding how to represent the join properly. Don't feel bad, it's fucking difficult.
Rough copy to muck around with color choices. I'll prob use acrylic or oil for the good copy. But let me know what you think otherwise? Especially in terms of background, not really happy with the solid red/pink.
>>2397148
thanks!! do you mean these photo studies? i might be being too precious or clean with my work now, these studies seem a lot more carefree than those drawings, yeah? or do you just mean the colours/subject matter?
>>2397148
>>2397219
also my workflow is fairly normal, i think!! it's just a sketch -> block in on a layer underneath -> then refining and adding texture. it's been working for me so far, but i tend to lose some of the stuff i like from the sketch along the way.
>>2397143
im guessing you mean these. this was in january i didn't do too many like this, and i might go back to it eventually. it's just good practice for identifying forms.
>>2397230
This is rad desu senpai
>>2395103
>>2395140
How's this? I only read a few articles and watch a video on Color Temperature.
Should I kill myself, senpaitachi?
I want to draw comics, not make high falutin' art.
Caterpie
hows this design?
>>2397204
shit dude, this is awesome, i liked a lot, does this have a meaning for you?
>>2397550
Not a fan. Looks like a hipster feminist from the future.
>>2396720
That's awesome, that brush btw looks so damn fine, you have a blog?
>>2397219
yeah ment those! been saving them whenever i saw you post. even just the colors in those look better than when you draw from scratch. you might try just referencing the photos for the colors all together for your original work, itll give you much more balanced color palette
>>2397230
oh this is nice! do you use transparent brushes at all, or is it all solid opaque color all the way through out your drawing?
>>2396881
Only way i can imagine it would appeal to anyone is of they are a girl
You are a stinky girl
Drew this a year ago. I know the right eye (his left) is fucked, it's something I've improved on.
I've done a more recent photorealistic one but I don't have a picture of it.
I have since left the void of photorealism, it's meaningless
>>2397636
I know I'm supposed to post recent drawings but I just wanted critique on this
>>2397636
Creepy stalker grill
A skull study because... why not.
>>2397639
It's my dead cousin
>>2397550
it reminds me to transistor the game
>>2397641
spooky studies
>>2397550
I decided to just focus on the head for some practice
>>2397731
Loomis!
>>2397731
Lips are too down. And why is the shadow of the eyes stopping before the eyebrows?
>>2397731
it feels like it needs more contrast on the values cuz is hard to recognize the eye factions
>>2397447
Keep going, I like this.
Comics are art, too. Don't be discouraged.
>>2396720
Really digging top left. Bottom right also has a striking silhouette. Consider fleshing them out?
I've always been terrible at backgrounds. I place detail in one area then become unsure on how to advance. Any advice?
>>2397799
The background works to prioritize the figure. There are many ways you can do this. For example, you can create a value contrast. Right now, the figure is mainly midtones, so perhaps the background can be much darker or lighter, to make the figure pop.
Landscape fun
>>2397686
Why did you kill him?
>>2398111
blog?
>>2398111
any tips? your stuff is top notch
did a painting of a shipwreck
>>2398139
Thanks!
I'm no expert but sometimes I do small thumbnails, sometimes I work in black in white first, It's very important that you try out various approaches to the same problem and see what gives you the best result.
Through a lot of trial and error I came to some conclusions:
1. use references but don't rely too heavily on them (your painterly instict gives you much more freedom); use large brushstrokes first
2. don't work on one area or one zoom level for too long as your eyes will get used to something and overlook potential mistakes (I sometimes use a timer set at 2 min intervals)
3. take your time when completing a painting...there are always things to improve...and even after you post your work don't be afraid to make corrections
4. be inspired by other artists' work and keep these references handy
5. use atmospheric perspective and try to introduce shadows for interest
6. work on more than one painting
7. use color balance to make colors relate to each other
These are just a few tips...but most importantly is to find a way that works best for you. Experimentation is key.
>>2398152
Shit advice
Just photobash and paint on top
Trying a more realistic approach
>>2398152
>>2398111
Wow, this is glorious.
Any tips on rendering? Yours is really great, lively and loose enough, but neither sketchy or too digital.
What do you recommend to learn for somebody who is very weak on rendering, but already (mostly) follow your 7 tips?
>>2398147
nice
>>2398150
sweet!
>>2398111
that looks nice senpai, i wish there was more popout on the building though, the waterfall kinda steals the show
>>2398191
Well if that is yours I'd say buy and read Color & Light by James Gurney and then Framed Ink to learn about composition, which is extremely important for landscapes.
Then about rendering I use a both the brush and the mixer brush (which I use a lot less, just for specific areas), and I use a workflow very similar to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntL3HpjYHe0
It's very short but you'll find it really really useful, watch where he paints and where he blends, try to mimic his technique, he explains it better than I ever could.
>>2398227
Thank you senpai, will do.
Framed Ink is really impressive.
I thought Gurney was a little too basic, like reading pop science, but I'll try to give it another go.
Thanks again!
>>2397625
I see what you are saying, but you couldn't be more wrong. I am neither a girl nor stinky. Stop shitposting and back to drawing, faggot
Had so much fun with this one
>>2398305
That's great, how do you get that finished look that you usually see in mtg cards?
>>2396720
what brush?
>>2398305
looks really awesome!
>>2397140
Whos your inspiration? Robotpunch?
>>2397729
Lol... I used that as a hashtag on instagram... It got me a like (like if that meant something but anyway...)
ok i get this gamut triangle thing. I need to put those primaries and create mixtures. But what to mix them with ? one primary with second primary ? then the result of the mixture mix with what ?
and how do i extend those mixtures in 4 different values ? by adding to those mixtures black ? im confused im doing it digitaly.
>>2398370
Digitally it's easier, use Coloorus if you're not using it, it's totally worth 11 bucks.
If you're not using it, go to adobe kuler webpage, look it up and then use a color scheme you like (use the triad mode to make color gamut more intuitive, since each of the colors you pick will eventually turn into your subjective primaries).
Then tweak each color until you get the primaries you like and that's almost it, just mix them to create 3 subjective secondaries like in your picture, and up their value adding white and down by adding black, do this with the color selecting tool, not actually mixing with your brush.
Now you have 6 colors and like 4 steps of value for each, this is more than enough for any painting, you can blend and paint with low opacity but always remember to come back to those colors and pick them using the color picker to keep your saturation levels in the painting where you want them to be.,if you never pick them your painting will start to lose saturation very fast due to constant mixing.
One think I liked about that book was the muddy colors part, read it, it's basically using muddy colors for most of the painting and then give dat saturation to the focal elements.
https://color.adobe.com/
I don't know what the fuck I just wrote it's late af, bye!
>>2398392
Im using manga studio and i have color wheel that is a triangle.
I found this site tho http://www.livepaintinglessons.com/gamutmask.php
>Then tweak each color until you get the primaries you like and that's almost it
dont i get the primaries i want by just making the shape on a gamut color wheel and its corners being the primaries ?
> do this with the color selecting tool, not actually mixing with your brush
i dont understand :(. How am i supposed to mix those primaries without brush ? thats the thing I use to mix !
can someone tell me please where i should start over again. i know i don't got not enough anatomy skills and i suck at drawing hands.
aaaand i have no fucking idea of light an color.
but where to start? do everything at the same time? or just start step by step
1. values
2. anatomy
3. color
4. light and shadows
??????
something rough
i tried
>>2398305
cool thumbnail
>>2398488
>referencing the OP
theres the beginner thread for that!
>>2398488
Will it infect my dick with green?
>>2398437
So blurry. Use hard brush and don't blend all edges.
Learn anatomy first. This will have the most impact on your image.
>>2398520
that...is the op...
>>2398488
Your life drawing stuff is really really good but whenever you draw from imagination your proportions start getting all over the place. This is nice and all, but she looks like she has no skull and that other anon was right about the horns not being symmetrical. Horns don't really have to be symmetrical but in case you did want symmetry you missed the mark a bit. I'm not sure how you could go about fixing that other than maybe when you draw from imagination still keep some similar references on hand just to double check things until you've really got it.
I dont want to touch this anymore, btw i liked her shirt.
>>2398554
I know what you mean about proportion; it doesn't come too naturally to me and I find myself disregarding it a lot to prioritize other stuff I'm more interested in. It's been a while since I've grinded foundations, I should probably do that, rather than focusing on these fully-fledged illustrations. Thanks for the crit though anon.
>>2398567
is it supposed to be a mannequin? What happened to her right hand?
>>2398579
You're welcome. I like your stuff overall and I'm confident you'll get that stuff together sooner or later anyway, just figure maybe mentioning it might help lean it towards sooner, heh.
doodled smth in mypaint
I'm doing a picture for Legend of the Cryptids, wondering what you lads think. The synopsis is that she realized an explosion was about to happen, so she quickly grabbed a kid nearby to shelter her from the blast. The setting is supposed to be a really fancy ornate library.
>>2398697
I saw the pic before reading your post and I thought she was snapping the kid's neck tbqhwyf
>>2398704
oh I thought she was giving the girl a noogie
>>2398185
>>2398488
I thought you were gonna pop it with red?
>>2398600
Idk i fucked up everything
Lady character designs for a thing. Somewhat ethnically separated, because I think we can all agree that the races should not mix.
>>2398704
... :(
>>2397563
You're right. It doesn't have a bolt handle.
>>2398749
wow such edgy.
did a painting of catt from imagination. used her face for reference and then made up the body
>>2398786
This isn't a blog you know. You should be posting things you want advice and critique on not just using these threads like a personal sketchbook journal.
>>2398807
That's fuckin' rad.
>>2398807
That is sick af fampai
>>2398807
why the fuck did you halfass the ground shadow so bad?
First time painting an actual character, took about 20 mins, how'd I'd do? I mainly focused on colors
>>2398807
sorry to be a stickler but
>1 guitar neck not being strummed at all
>1 hand for 3 keyboards and a guitar neck
>>2398830
It was a long day
>>2398843
There's a hydraulic servo arm strumming the second neck
>>2398807
i like to think this guy is taking his first lesson for this instrument, and right now he's just practicing scales
>>2398848
it should be moved directly over the strings to show that.
Rate this shit. Was planning on posting on the beginner thread but eh
>>2397130
What's your ultimate goal with art?
>>2396718
>>2398929
L I N E Q U A L I T Y
F
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pls ty firez
>>2398933
Mmmmm....
That is more aliased than it actually looks in the app. I think this is a bit better
>>2398927
idk. make other people feel better.
>>2398929
The forms are really inconsistent at the bottom pot and around the stand. I sometimes catch myself having this problem if I've been working on something for a long time, but something that helped me was stepping back and looking with fresh eyes.
>>2398944
Aliasing wasn't your problem, you problem is carelessly putting down lines over and over eachother, chicken-scratching, and drawing static lines that flatten the forms. Also you've "outlined" everything to be darker at the edges, which flattens it even more.
>>2397618
that's a good idea!! not sure why i haven't been doing that already, but i'll definitely give it a shot. and i use an opaque flat brush for everything except the reflected light and the texture. for things like these i'll typically kick the opacity down to 30 or 40 and colour pick the background for the reflected light, then colour pick the result and set it back to 100%
>>2398345
i didn't know they went by Robotpunch, but yeah, actually!! i've only known them as vlad gusev, and haven't seen anything knew from him since he stopped updating on Tumblr. i never really thought my work resembled his much, but i've been told that he's an obvious inspiration of mine before, which is weird, but interesting!!
>>2398786
creepy AND gross
>>2398315
I don't really know what you mean but I think you're talking about the sharpness that gives it a kind of "crisp". Usually, when I scale my artworks down to a viewing size, Photoshop applies some kind of sharpen filter to the image. That might be it
>>2398335
Thanks m8!
>>2398517
Thanks, something you got to critique about the full view?
>>2398952 #
Nice catch, Thanks anon.
>>2398955 #
Thanks, maybe I overdid the contour it seems you're stretching the def of Chichén scratching but anyway I will try to control my línes more.
<- Another Note 4 sketch before going to sleep
>>2398834
i like it, family. it's fairly bare bones, but that's probably a good thing if you're just dipping your toes in!! the rim light is a little ill-defined, and the rest is very rough/sloppy, but you're on the right track. there's not a whole lot to say for this, so try something more ambitious!
>>2399036
Go to sleep forever.
I don't know why shadows are my bad knee but I'll be damned if they don't ever turn out right, I just never feel like I put them in the right spot. (this is pre-destruction via shading)
Any tips anons?
>>2398795
Who the fuck are you?
>>2399040
Thanks senpai! Appreciate the genuine feedback
This was suppose to be a throwaway sketch from ma valentine's stream but I think I'm going to keep it.
I don't know whether to keep it rougher or refine it a lot.
>>2398795
you say this to people in every thread and no one gives a fuck what you think.
>Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!
Doesn't say fuck about your hardcorez crit l1f3s713 faggot
Most recent one
Any suggestions for what to do for his right arm? Im just not sure if what I've been doing (arm up) fits the flow well or if something would fit better.
>>2399115
really nice. I like the fact the the face is smooth and that some is left rough. It kind of reinforces it as the focal point. I especially like the hair
>>2399123
I have literally never ever said that to anyone in any thread before. But this asshole spamming his creepy obsessive pictures of this girl and other shitty things then shitting up the thread with defensiveness when someone does give him a critique is bullshit.
>>2399115
I would keep it rougher. Looks nice. What's your stream?
>>2399143
I think arm up would really fit. Contributes to the dynamic line from his left leg to his body.
My current concept for a fanart. Sorry for chicken-scratching. Still need to practice.
Been lurking /ic/ for a while now so I've decided to post for the first time (be gentle). Here's something I'm about to color. Any suggestions/critiques are welcome.
>>2399201
is her face supposed to be at a 3/4 view or is she looking at us?
>>2399214
3/4
How's this? I changed the eyes.
>>2399219
gonna redline one sec
>>2399219
It was a pretty fast redline so all I really did was move things.
The main problem i saw was that the neck to chin portion didn't have much depth. To fix that, think about your contour lines and how the head is a box with depth. I saw your angle from the shoulders and eyes and used that as a mean to make the box for the head (i also used it to move the left breast slightly up).
I know its messy, but by the vertical line along the shoulder to the hair, I hope you can see that a lot of depth was added just by shifting the head right a bit. Hopefully the picture will be able to show you little bit better then i can explain.
Pretty good for a first post! Lines are clean and maybe in the future think about some variation, but if you have any questions, ask away
>>2399226
Thanks for the help! I imagine her looking more forward, but at a slight angle, but I'll keep working on this. I should probably look at a reference to fix up the position.
spend some time on this, any feedback?
>>2399239
was this a study from a reference?
if so, can you post?
>>2398517
Oh, now I see what you mean, was posting from my phone before and apparently it made the image super small, it's actually bigger.
>>2399239
>>2399258
not OP, but can I ask why the values should be exaggerated at the bottom instead of being true to ref? honestly curious about the thought process
>>2399262
Well when i said exaggerated, I really meant pushed because if you look at the OP, the bottom section of the pot is almost one flat value.
When looking at the reference, it can be hard to see the very small changes in value, so what i really meant was to try to find those differences and go through with them.
I think that in the OP's case the values could be pushed and not necessarily that all values should always be pushed.
>tl:dr I have trouble with putting thoughts into words... sorry
>>2399270
nah, you're fine. I understand now. thanks for elaborating.
>>2397162
how the fuck could that possibly be his own hand?
Winged the perspective
Fuck you, I'm having fun trying out colors
>>2398437
okay, start over again. use some refs an try not to be so muddy.
how am i doing so far?
>>2396552
ran out of time trying to find a hand pose
Trying to practice rendering
>>2398305
ptretty nice thumbnail man
>>2398111
oh thats nice senpai
>>2399367
First, try putting your arms in the same positions based on the shoulder placements. Completely unnatural feeling, right? Both shoulders should be feeding in somewhere in between where both of them lie. The left arm is too short, the left hand is too large and doesn't taper into the distance, it just kinda "exists" in the wrong space. This makes the illusion of fore-shortening completely lost. Add in the fact that you're trying to show more of the hand than you need to. Its unnecessary. Details will be hidden behind details in front.
Despite it being a fantastical being, the way the neck feeds into the chest cavity is off. It's not a combination of cervine anatomy (or... is it a horse now? I dunno if the shift was intentional) and human anatomy. It's made-up, entirely. When you're looking at what you're doing, bring your eyes to every element as you go. You'll be able to pick apart the way the neck muscles, the trapezius, the clavicle and the delts are not interacting in any rational way.
The breasts are too high on the chest cavity. The attempt at showing the curvature of the spine was... okay. You've got the right idea, but you're not feeling the motions properly and it just looks like symbol and memory drawing.
The pelvis has little to no bend at all, only the rotation against the z-axis, which isn't translating the idea of sitting down. The pubis and genitals is entirely symbol and memory. They don't look like that, trust me. The left leg isn't feeding into the hips properly. Both legs are too small lengthwise, but the right leg is the worst offender. The way the viewers eyes are supposed to move across the image suggests to them that it's stumpy, from the upper leg and definitely the lower leg. You also need to STUDY skeletal, muscle, and dermis relations. That right lower leg and foot is completely symbols. Every aspect. Study.
>>2399512
I meant x-axis.
>>2399512
thanks man!
i really strugle with anatomy, you are right!
i will definetly work on that!
still post what i did so far. but will go back to study more anatomy... yayyy
perspective practice
>>2399059
>>2399596
pretty nice . how did u handle the circles in perspective ?
Still in early stages, but I could still get some feedback.
>>2399596
Tetsuo?
>>2399605
I think the main things I see right off of the bat is that his right arm and leg seem very flat.
With his right thigh and knee already in place, it makes sense for the bottom part of the leg to swing towards us. It looks forced the way it is now.
The perspective on his axe seems off and is really stiff. Also, it doesn't really match inprportion with the axe in the dragon(?)'s head.
>>2399572
You're welcome! I kinda did the critique for my own benefit as well. Never done one before.
I am glad I could help and leave you feeling positive.
study i did today
>>2399643
could you post the reference? looks interesting
>>2399658
>>2399663
>>2399667
cool, thanks!
>>2399643
those look juicy af , would eat
Does anyone know how to readjust their eyes to look at a painting at a different angle?
think im gonna call this done
im trying to illustrate the phrase "The Thought That Counts" what do you think? Did I execute on this well enough?
>>2399742
at least she can become lasagne..
I always draw manga with sameface...I am trying to learn how to draw all the members of my favorite K-POP group but not manga style I want to draw with more realistic features. If I draw them manga style they all have same face just different hair colors. The first I have drawn in Jimin, he doesn't really look like Jimin just average manga boy but I hope if I draw more of him I will get his face right.
>>2399740
i though you were doing drafts for think bubbles you wanted to use in a comic you were working on
>>2399740
nice one brian. the kids will really like this one.
Current. Working on a river mermaid and centaur next
>>2399732
I quite like this. How long did it take you in total hours?
I think I'll do some more after looking at some more space stations, I'm still not happy with these
>>2399787
:/ can't tell if that's sarcasm.
anyways heres my hands so far from today
This isn't how to picture is actually set up, but I moved stuff around so it's easier to see stuff.
I have NO idea how to draw an arm going back behind a person, and how clothing would look like that. I've tried looking everywhere for some reference or model I could use, but I couldn't find anything.
What exactly should I search for, or are there specific places I can go to find more obscure positions?
I want to get better at more dynamic stuff, but how can you do it if you can't even visualize it in the first place?
Same with clothes blowing in the wind; I don't know what they would look like in the first place. It's mostly clothes I have a really tough time with.
I really, really want to get better at this (I've been trying to work more on proportions and hands and I think I'm improving a tiny bit), but I can only use myself as a reference for so much. Where can I go to be able to visualize the kinds of poses I want to do, especially when it comes to clothes? I really need some guidance
>>2399740
in my opinion it's too simple and doesn't really lead to that phrase very well. i think you are on to something but it needs something less abstract which better demonstrates the phrase.
you mean like "it's the thought that counts", as in the thought behind an action is more important than the action right? an idea could be, perhaps, illustrating a person who is thinking about performing a virtuous deed which involves him needing to count. or, the same thing but with the ironic side of that phrase in which someone has done something bad while thinking they are doing good. that's the first thing that comes to my mind if i try thinking about illustrating that kind of double entendre. there's probably more clever ways though. either way, i think that the thought bubble indicating the "counting thought" needs to be incorporated into a more solid context, with more connections to that phrase, for it to become reasonably apparent.
>>2396552
>>2400153
i see what you are getting at, but to stay true to a literal interpretation of a thought as a character and it counting in it's head adding a human that is thinking the thought that is counting is... it get's complicated.
Off the top of my head the questions that need to be answered to write that joke would be something like this
Who would think a thought that is counting?
Why would a thought have to count?
On some level I think it's important that I take ideas further, and that I really squeeze every last drop of humor out of every idea in the english language, but I also think there is some merit in taking a piecemeal approach.
I think of it as building a visual library of jokes, and the more simple concepts I come up with the easier it will be to combine them into more complicated concepts down the line ( right now I usually have 3 moving parts maximum, I could see getting one with 4, 5, or 6 taking a lot of years of doing this).
That being said I think you're right it is too abstracted in it's current form and probably needs at least one more solid "level" to it.
Doing sketch as always.
Overusing simplified shapes is my worst habit. ( especially hands and feet )
It can be look nice, but not quite accurate.
My overall style is not about precision, rather... windswept feeling. ( hard to describe )
I've started making comics because it's my ultimate goal, And I painstakingly found out, that my ordinary sketch is no way near the style that comics demands. It just look messy.
So my current goal is to develop clear, understandable art style. It will be hard thanks to my short attention span, but there's no way around. I guess.
If there's someone who suffered similar problem, is there something i must bear in mind?
>>2400160
You're like, my goal for sketching figure right now.
>inb4 shoot higher
>>2400109
>are there specific places I can go to find more obscure positions?
>but I can only use myself as a reference for so much
Evidently you aren't doing it enough. Use a large mirror, or set up a camera on a timer to help you. Or get a friend or family member to strike the pose for you. There's no reason for you to not have access to an arm going back behind a person.
Chances are you need to construct more if you're having trouble. Simplify the torso and the parts of the arm into boxes or cylinders. I'd go with boxes whenever possible to easily denote 3 axes.
Draw through the form of the torso to place the shoulder correctly. Use basic perspective measuring to place the elbow at roughly the midpoint of the arm. Once the construction is good, make sure you follow it accurately. Don't start winging things by drawing parts in views you're already comfortable with.
As for cloth, if you can't wing it using your constructed framework for the arm, then you'll have to use reference. Again, the best references are the ones you take that are specific to your needs, instead of searching around for something specific that you might not ever find.
>>2399783
I asked my sister who's into k-pop to identify who your drawing was, and she said only the hair looks like him
I like the way it looks either way though
Really struggling with hair and flowers. The flowers always seem to come out looking like rubber.
>>2400363
one thing that can help I think is if you tried to us a different value range in different areas. think about the value range of the image as a whole as opposed to using the same range in every local area of the image. if that makes sense.
the brightest value in one local area can be darker than the brightest value in a different area, if that makes sense.
>>2400369
>>2400370
>>2400372
I think i tried to made something too complex for my current skill. Sigh..
>>2400382
I dunno if this helps you any with the hands...
>>2400405
Mine are pointing a bit more forward i think. But thanks for the reference tho! You can never get enough references <:
>>2400408
>>2400403
THAWWWWNE!!
I like it.
some wolves
>>2400439
black and white color pencils? this is great stuff
>>2400439
Learn doge anatomy less copying pictures
Drew this but I'm going to bed now
>>2400382
That's neat! You could simplify it maybe?
>>2400277
I fixed it for you
>>2400463
cool
Another quick portrait
>>2400382
iknowthatfeel.jpg but I'm glad about it
>>2400496
This one is unusually good for you. Take it from someone who has never cared too much for your work and has not commented on anything you've done since early 2015
>>2400594
hes referencing, hes got 1:1 perfect copies down, nothing unusual.
>tfw not good enough to praise but not bad enough to critique
>>2400704
>tfw iktf
I just keep telling myself one day it'll happen.
>>2400704
>same
posted last 3 threats and my posts were completely ignored :P This is even worse than being shit
>>2400704
>tfw my post usually has 1 reply saying cute
>I'm okay with this.png
This is my most recent one.
Can you guys tell me how I should improve?
>>2400721
Perspective, everything looks skewed and the guys looks like hes at eye height while we are looking from above down on the kitchen.
sketch for upcoming painting
can anyone tell me if there is anything i can improve on?
>>2400158
good one
>>2400721
edgy/10
>>2397799
Is it supposed to look like a Jeff Simpson piece?
study
painted this. used a van gogh and a cezanne for reference
