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Post your nsfw, critique work and so on.
Furry is allowed, however do not over indulge on the subject of furries or their culture. Unnecessarily reporting these anons are strongly discouraged. This thread is dedicated to helping anons improve their erotic drawings and paintings.
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>>2339998
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Let's see how my shit evolves. (draw isn't mine)
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>>2340034
this may seem like utter crap advice but your stuff is pretty awesome but may be too detailed / over rendered for the audience you are aiming for. People nowadays like concepts more than extreme detail.
Hence why shadman still makes bank. He can pump out sexy scenario after scenario because he doesn't sweat the small stuff.
Just don't want you overworking.
Loved Dmitry's stuff before he became obsessed with details.
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>>2340073
That's your own opinion, senpai. If that was an universal truth Takaranovich, InCase, Idlecil and other such artists wouldn't be close as succesful as they are.
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>>2340034
why isn't that dick in that ass?
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Where's Aljosa hiding!?
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>>2340054
>draw isnt mine
source?
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>>2340034
You keep polishing this, but you never address the main problem which is the inexpressive faces. They don't look lustful nor surprised. At all.
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So I REALLY want to get better.
But right this moment, I'm not sure where to start.
I'd appreciate it if someone cared enough to give me some solid criticism on what my (consistent) weak points are, and how to address fixing them (hell, even just knowing what they are is helpful).

Though for those of you who have neither the time nor the fucks to glance through my slog of shit, here's a pretty standard example of my work. Feel free to crit away. Everythings appreciated.

(for those who have time or fucks left over to help me understand where I'm consistently fucking up, 1, Thank you and 2. you can find my shit posted here: http://temixart.tumblr.com/page/3 )
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>>2340125
>So I REALLY want to get better.
>http://temixart.tumblr.com/page/3
>has patreon
top kek
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>>2340125
It's very static. Straight on camera's are very static.
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>>2340133
Before you draw appealing porn, you should learn how to draw properly. Mainly you lack understanding of how perspective works, which is essential if you want to draw proper anatomy.
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>>2340112
i'm not 100% sure but i think it's musikalgenius.
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Is the shit, but is the best that i can do.
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>>2340127
If people are willing to pay for shit art, why not get paid while you learn to get better?
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>>2340242
Sure thing buddy, but it will still make me cringe every time I see it.
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>>2340288
Good for you. Thanks for sharing.
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>>2340220
hot 2bh
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idk how to belly bulge
among other things
help???
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>>2340298
Np. I hope I helped you realize the truth.
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>>2340336
Np.
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>>2340336
>the truth.

That he's making money off shit art but wants to improve? Shut up and draw faggot.
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>>2340076
What the heck is going on with InCase lately? He used to be one of my fave porn artists, but lately he's been drawing gigantic heads and hands and just.... generally bad proportions and wonky faces! What happened?!
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>>2340073
WHel, i just try to do the cool stuff, you know. I can just make the flat colors and and stay that, but that is not cool.
And whay does peopel compere me with dmitrys?
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>>2340355
Your perception to seeing mistakes has improved because your overall draftsmanship has improved.
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>>2339817
Fixed the pose. I think this way it works better and it looks more interesting. Still would like to know if anyone sees any errors.
>>2340360
What?
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where's the best place to sell furry porn? furaffinity split into two seperate communities.
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>>2340383
Very good! But shrink the hand holding the ball sack, it looks huge compared to the demon girls hand (that is actually a tad small and lacks definition)
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>>2340384
>furaffinity split into two seperate communities.

Are you talking about people migrating to other places after the latest drama? FA is still the biggest and best place to get commissions, how ever it doesn't hurt to also have a Tumblr account, there's a growing market there.
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>>2340401
yeah I was talking about that drama.
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>>2340361
Probably cause you both draw dickgirls.
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>>2339998
the more i draw this the more generic it becomes
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>>2340142
Thanks for the crit.
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it isnt ready but I want you to spot mistakes for now, k ?
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>>2340691
Left foot needs to be slightly larger.
Nice post/angle by the way.
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>>2340702
pose/angle*
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>>2340691
amazing anon
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>>2340328
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Do you allow all porn, I got some semi furry stuff, not a furry myself, but its fun to draw.
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>>2340133
>>2340328
>>2340514
>>2340665
>>2340691

Whats your Tumblr?
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>>2340514
>>2340665
wahafagart
tats me on tumblr.
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>redpill me crit/ic/s
On a side note, I can't for the life of me decide what character this should be. Any ideas?
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>>2340771
last wip
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>>2340265
I didn't mean it as a criticism though, just thought it was funny
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>>2340935
rather boring imo, is size difference supposed to be the selling point?
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>>2340966
I'm pretty sure it being furry shit is the selling point.
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>>2340877
more ples
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>>2340981
Can't really continue on it until I know who it's gonna be.
>sketch of something else I already finished though not really porn
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>>2340990
forgot pic
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>>2340991
Love the gesture of the bottom half.
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Other coloring, draw isn't mine again.
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Doesn't seem like critique happens a lot in the TG thread, so I thought I'd post here.
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lazy quick color of thing from the other thread
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>>2341125
awesome
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>>2341125
fucking hell
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>>2341125
I feel like I've seen your art before
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>>2341125
lando??? haha nice to see you here :)
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Fuck my ass. Don't even mention that foot.

>>2341125
I put a dragon penis in this to honor your legacy.
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>>2341125
Nice coloring. Sloppy gesture and hit and miss anatomy. Learn to draw hands.
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>>2340877
>>2340991
Learn some proper anatomy, meaning learn how to draw feet and hands.
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>>2341090
Great gesture and line confidence, but pretty poor anatomy (you still can't draw decent hands) and perspective (symbols on her face mismatching and general body shapes placed so that you can't define a horizon line).
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>>2340396
Great pointers. All true and taken care of. Thanks anon.

>>2340514
>>2340665
>>2340810
You have some strong fundamentals, with little perspective inconsistency here and there, but anatomy above the norm nonetheless. What your art lacks the most is facial expressiveness imo.

>>2340691
I really like this one. Just the pose and pov are already very appealing. Same goes for the linework, but that's something that is present in all your work imo. There are some perspective errors though. Her left foot and calf are too small; her torso is a tad too long; her right forearm is too short, which led you to position the hand awkwardly into perspective (there should be more of the palm showing); the face is a bit too concave (I have the same problems with these 3/4 views from below) because of the wrong perspective of the mouth. Another nitpick would be the shoulders area being too stiff resulting in a less natural looking pose. I can make a quick redline if you want.

>>2340935
I suggest you try pushing the perspective in terms of pov a lot more. This way you can make your artwork more dynamic and lively (your confident gesture makes half the work here already). Remember that porn isn't concept art. You have to make your characters more intimate with the viewer by bringing them closer to the camera and maybe trying to tell a story in the process. Very expressive faces are a good alternative if your setting isn't that eloquent, and with good expressions you can tell a lot about the relationship between the characters.
From what I see here I think you already have pretty good fundamentals even though there are some mistakes (badly defined center of mass and some sloppy anatomy/perspective in the hands department). Apply all I wrote above to your artwork and you'll be making great porn in no time.
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>>2340691
tumblr/blog please fampai
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>>2341298
>fampai

please kill yourself as soon as possible
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>>2341298
i want Blog
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>>2341300
baka desu
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>>2340341
Thank you.
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>>2341303
awww, somebody needs hugs.
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>>2341300
the amount of autistic you have to be, to get triggered over such a trivial thing.
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>>2341291
yes redline plz. I was doubting the ares you mentioned as well. I went to bed so im responding late sry.
>>2341298
alright if you want to. https://www.tumblr.com/blog/tumtumisu/
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>>2341125
damn you come to /ic/ ? i might or might not have fapped to your toothless pics before
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>>2341357
Hope this helps.
The left portion with the smile in perspective is just a general addition because a lot of people struggle with this. I think it doesn't apply to your example, since the lips are pushed upwards by her finger (if I'm correct).
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>>2341261
I fell asleep. Ty for the critique. Bacm to the books
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>>2341261
Could you throw a redline my way, too?
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>>2341326
>5 second reply at something stupid i see
>lmao you're so triggered

kill yourself as well
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>>2341594
u seem triggerd actully :p
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>>2341300
>kill yourself
>>2341594
>kill yourself

nooo, you're not triggered at all.
please, go away autism. we don't need you here.
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>>2341392
thanks. Im not sure about the face correction tho. Theres too much space on her face not sure how to describe it and it feels unappealing for me.
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>>2341662
Your face and pose look worlds better anyway. I wouldn't take much of that red line to heart. They essentially just changed the arm angle and made an unappealing face.
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Hows the face looking?
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>>2341254
he's spent too much of his life drawing furry paws he doesn't know how hands work anon :[

His backgrounds are space ship interiors are pretty top tier though
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>>2341300
fampai please
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>>2341392
you suck
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>>2341662
Try not to get distracted by the different proportions and distances, I simply wanted to show you what I meant with your face being too concave, so I pushed my example. I wasn't trying to emulate your style.
I arched her back a bit more to make the pose more dynamic and pushed her shoulders backwards, because it is more natural with such an arch. In the process I rotated her head, but that is optional.

>>2341714
Perspective wise and pose wise my version is less stiff and more correct.
I didn't change only the arm angle. There are 3 major alterations (left foot, right arm and palm, face). The appeal of the face has nothing to do with the purpose of this redline, but I respect your opinion of course.
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>>2341773
You forgot this one -> >>2340383
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>>2341798
aye, i will try to apply some corrections of yours.
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>>2341859
>...and then she farts!
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>>2341878
All his internal organs would rupture.
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>>2341392
I'm sorry to say that while your correction to the legs and arms was quite good, that face correction is horribly unappealing to look at compared to the original. The impression of the character was lost entirely, and lets be honest...it just resembles the same-face that most of your own art has...which at times can be quite hard to ignore.

- It looks almost completely flat, and has too much volume in the lower half of the face.
- The mouth you suggested looks like it would be a rabbit character with buck teeth.
- The left eye straight up looks like it would be melting off of the face.
- The ear is now HUGE, way too big.
- That first line-over you did on the original mouth looks great, why didn't you just go with that? The one with a tick next to it is horrid, there is no need for that much teeth to be showing.
- Your redline has changed the face expression completely, especially the eyebrows.
It now looks more like a squinting kind of gaze as though they're in discomfort, rather than the originally simple and devious and gaze.
- You seem to have missed the perspective that the original was attempting to achieve. You've succeeded in drawing perspective lines on one plane, but the original picture clearly gives the implication of two planes of perspective, especially in the angle of the head. This is what makes the original head look so good.
This is most prominent in the jaw bone. Look at the flow of the lines in the original jaw bone, and how it flows up to the ear and into the hair. That's far more enjoyable to look at than the jaw in the redline.

The original looked as though it had a nice pinch of perspective in the mix, bit the new one just looks like a basic stylized face slapped onto the head frame of Loomis.

As for the hand, it's gone from an impression of the finger bending slightly up against the face to just looking like some bumpy stick resting on the top of the lip. The lowered elbow was good though.
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>>2341798
>>Perspective wise and pose wise my version is less stiff and more correct

In some areas this is true. In other areas it seems more like you've actually introduced more stiffness to the picture, and have also missed the perspective the original was trying to achieve.
A simple redline of just the main body corrections and a slightly less concave outline of the head would've sufficed.

I mean this in the kindest way possible, I just don't think your redline of the entire thing was actually necessary. It provided some useful insight for the few areas that were indeed wrong, but with it so thickly applied over the entire thing it really is hard to look at for comparison.
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>>2341742
Looks alright to me.
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>>2341859
sg9?? weird to see you on here, but that's pretty good.
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>>2341886
Read this ->>>2341798
>the new one just looks like a basic stylized face slapped onto the head frame of Loomis.
That's exactly what I was going for.
>>2341891
Same as above.

I wasn't aiming to make the work instead of him. Just wanted to show him which parts of the head should be positioned more outward to make the face less concave.
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>>2341291
>You have some strong fundamentals, with little perspective inconsistency here and there, but anatomy above the norm nonetheless. What your art lacks the most is facial expressiveness imo.
heh, thenx, but i can fuck'up anything i think
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>>2341918
oh, forgot the image
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>>2341896
He seems to come here quite a lot.
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>>2341950
O word? i don't come in to the porn thread very often, must be why i miss him, lol.

i like how soft and pliable you make flesh seem dude, especially tails and stuff. hang in there.
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Didn't Incase use to browse /ic/? I remember seeing him like 3 years ago here or something.
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>>2342006
ive seen him post in the port thread a couple of times this year.
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>>2340326


make it more subtle. right now it looks like it's dick-shaped, where in reality it would be a more subtle rise, not like the colon is in the front of the gut.
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>>2340991
dude, that shoulder looks super funky, fix that shit, and turn her into a tower girl.
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been really busting ass working on my anatomy lately but im struggling. Everything i draw in my free time now i'm just too burnt out on to go through the steps of measuring proportions and perspective so my stuff always comes out kind of sloppy.

anyway i'd appreciate a redline
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>>2342193
shit, sorry
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>>2341859
that's all for now.
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>>2341972
>>2341950
Anyone have a link to this person's art blog? I googled but I keep getting cars.
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>>2342196
>ohana means family
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>>2342214

I loled anon. Great work. Completely unfappable for me, but hillariousl. That clit slap is a 10/10
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>>2342263
weird sense of humor
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>>2340355
>gigantic heads and hands
Shemales
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>>2342264
Not really. It's more comical than hot.
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>>2342267
if you have a weird sense of humor, then yes. that's my point.
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>>2342271
Another anon here.
No, it's not weird at all. The actual style of the art looks more comical than erotic.

They're judging it by visuals, not theme.
It looks comical. We know it's meant to be themed as erotic, but the simplified shapes and poses looks comical.

Nothing weird about seeing it as funny.
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>>2340355
Agree
>>2340377
But it's not only that my own perception changed. I look at his like one-two years old pics and in some aspects he was much better than today's InCase. He's in some kind of stagnation.
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>>2342214
This is some neat stuff. Maybe a bit too carefree with the gesture/stylization at some points, but definitely not a deal breaker. Props.

>>2342267
To me it looks more cute than comical.

Also, have this sketch going on. I guess the torsos are a tad too short (especially on the right character). Can you guys spot any other fuckups?
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>>2342271
>if you have a weird sense of humor, then yes. that's my point.

Yeah, no. The art style just isn't hot at all and that's what's giving it the comedic effect it has. If you think that looks hot I question your standards.
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>>2342276
>He's in some kind of stagnation.

Kek, Name an online smut artist who isn't stagnating.
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>>2342295
>being this desperate to feel better about them selves
kek indeed
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>>2342297
>he can't answer a simple question
I'm not surprised.
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>>2342295
kek, doxy
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Lineart stage now. Is there any way i can improve it?
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Does anyone else know any good tips for making good porn? Obviously art fundamentals are one, but i think drawing well and drawing good porn isn't 100% related, does anyone on here think they picked up on some ideas on why certain pieces are more sexually arousing than others.
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>>2342298
I'm sure your art must be awesome and improving on a daily, no, hourly, basis.

Kekkus maximus.
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>>2342232
http://shyguy9.tumblr.com/
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>>2342278
Fixed some perspective and added the tails. Anything else I should take care of before inking?
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>>2342293
Fuck you.
How about that
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>>2342463
it already looks like finished lines idk what you want to ink just change it to black lines.
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>>2342276
He had this huge remove sameface deal.
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More of an ambiguous lewd than porn, but I decided to free-hand the background and stencil in the foreground with objects and abstracts floating around. I'm trying to make this abstract with various fluorescent colors seen on the table.

Spraypaint is fun and unforgiving at the same time.

Thoughts?
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>>2342734
cantsee out of youtried
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BBC is god and also kyle too
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Oh, sorry maybe to late but
It's not SAI, it's manga studio, i don't like standard round brush in SAI.
I doesn't know shit about coloring or shading, it's just happy acciden i think, ok maybe some basic rules: hard and soft shadows, make dark areas more saturated.
I don't want to be an artist anymore
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just sketching
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>>2343252
Moar!
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>>2343252

Link to website?
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Random sketch.
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>>2343252
sooooooooo... any chance you're going to post it to the foundry once your done...?
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>>2342276
His hobbit comic bled into his normal humans' proportions. And the futa cancer will ruin you anyway. It's fun once a while but if all you do is futa eventually you forget what made women feminine and erotic in the first place.
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>>2343594
I agree with the first part of what you said. The other part about futas ruining the femininity of "common" female characters however is a bit of a stretch, at least to me imo. I think the main point of futas is managing to keep the characters feminine even though you give them male anatomy and characteristics. If anything futa is a good practice in femininity, not something that makes you bad at drawing female characteristics.
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>>2343382
>>2343411
Thanks, mostly post here though.

>>2343584
maybe

Blocked it out somewhat, I like how erodoll sketches and am trying to emulate that.
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>>2342293

Im the one who gave the clit slap a 10/10 and thats pretty spot on what you said at least for me.

Also its only guaranteed hot to someone who has a thing for minituarization. Its well drawn, but it still does not strike me as something that is not trying to be at least a bit funny.
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>>2343567
wheres the dick? was she a man before, is that the twist?
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Only recently stared drawing becuase I wanted to do my own porn

Unfinished version becuase I still need to learn shading and I need to redraw his shitty right arm
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>>2344034
is that..hahaha
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>>2344051
goat mom horns should be white !!!
but props to you for using the correct eye color
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>>2344039
what?
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>>2344034
this.. I like this. never change anon
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>>2340383
You have a blog or something? I like your work a lot
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>>2344106
laughed hhard

I was trying to go for perspective
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>>2344113
I'm glad you took it the right way. Everybody has been there and everyone is going their own speed. A tip might be to look up reference of the pose you want to re-create and use it as the base. for the rest of your work, because as it stands I'm not sure you can save what your at right now.

best of luck
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what should i draw? porn related ofcourse. i will draw horses, humans , aliens or whatever . note i am not doing colour! Just pen.
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>>2344122

I draw all kinds of shit, used to be vanilla, then moved into monster girls, now some furry stuff, explore what peeks your intrest most and draw that.
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Okay anons, need some honest critique. I know my linework sucks bad(trying my best to get better though).

What about the rest? I suppose the skin still needs some work too.
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>>2344340
It's still WIP, just to clarify.
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>>2344340
very flat, you lack understanding of form. It's really evident in the face, planes non existent beside the eye cavities.
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>>2344351
Noted, gonna work on it tommorow.
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how can i make the drool better?
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>>2344388
Drool doesn't drip down along a straight path, it will conform to the shape of the face and go along the sides of ridges like the chin.
Also, drool won't drip off the chin in most cases because it rolls down the neck, and if it does drip it makes one bigger drop instead of many little ones that are close together like on the tongue.
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>>2343636
Boys with bolted on tits aren't feminine anon.
And there's no such a thing as a feminine penis.

Futa is for people who want to have their cake and eat it too but the more you delve on it the more cartoony and androginous your shit looks, you truly do forget what makes characters feminine or manly, because you threat too much on amalgamating both.
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So what is the best place to find porn commissions? Is there a general FAQ for this sort of thing?

Pic related is a nude piece I painted a long time ago, but I think it'd be fun to do some freaky shit for cash.
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>>2344388
blog?
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still tryin
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>>2344590
knew i shouldnt fullsize that
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>>2344388
sry, m8
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>>2344640
LELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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>>2344640
>arabseagull.png
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>>2344595
i like what im seeing, it might not be perfectm but it sure looks spontaneous and thats what counts when it comes to porn
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>>2344646
thanks!
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>>2344640
blog?
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>>2342214
This is how fetishes are born.
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Is the torso too long?
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I really need at least 20 bucks right now, somebody wants to give commissions? Pic related is my current skill.
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>>2344726
>is the head flat, symboldrawn and ugly as fuck compared to the rest of the drawing?
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>>2344732
head/face/hair is just like that because I wanted to get the body somewhat right first.

But I'm planning to make a flat animu face with that body.
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>>2344551
You should stop assuming that other people have the same problems with futa or drawing in general as you do.
Keeping a female body feminine while drawing futa for me is simply good practice.
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>>2344731
Email and or more examples of work?
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>>2344731
do furshit, its easier to get commisioned like that
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>>2344773
If you are at least mediocre good, you can draw whatever you like and will still get tons of commissions.
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>>2340935
far shots are for establishing

mid shots are for larger interaction between characters/what have you

close shots are for detailed and/or small actions

with close shots, clever, well composed use of (relatively) extreme perspective can let you have your cake and eat it too (read: genitals and face of the same character in the same frame/pinup/whatever). you might want this because most people tend to like cause and effect in porn. they like seeing the genital(s) do(ing) something(s) and then the face(s) reacting. you could do this in two panels as well, or you could just ram a cock down someone's throat in every piece, whatever stiffs your dick or slicks your clit, the important thing to do is actually think about what you find appealing about the thing you like and then finding the best way to translate that idea into a visual the fully conveys the things that you find attractive to other like minded individuals.
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It's possible to do something like this without Drawtablet?
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>>2344826

probably with an airbrush
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>>2344826

Lines for sure, I don't know about the colours. But I'm a n00b.
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>>2344829
>>2344828
Can you recommend me brushes like these?
i can't find something like that.
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>>2344748
[spoiler][email protected][/spoiler]

>>2344773
I see, i could draw literally anything right now.
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>>2344830
its called default round brush
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>>2344831
then go shill out to 8ch's /fur/
you got the skill to fetch a 20 USD comission without a problem
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>>2344832
Can you point out them for me? (i'm really Dumbtard)
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>>2344844
Anon is trying to tell you that is not the brush that makes the strokes look good, but the hand and skill of the artist.
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>>2344849
oh. shit. Well. thanks for pointing that out anon.
Then i can do it with mouse?
There's only one thing that i want to ask.
How can i get that smooth effect?
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>>2344851
It's really hard to achieve something like that with a mouse. I think it's doable, but you'll need tons of practice. I suggest you buy a drawing tablet instead. You can get cheap but good wacom alternatives for 50 bucks if money is an issue.
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>>2344851
yes you can do that with a mouse ezpz, but you need to go for vecor lineart and spend autistic amount of time on it
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>>2344856
>>2344854
Well that's pretty fucked up.
I mean i live in central america (Shitland) and i'm poor Then...
What if i do the draws by hand? and then i ink them with the pen tool? can i get similar results?
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hey guys! what do you think and got any tips or advice?
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>>2344859
stop being retarded

> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vecotr+lineart

stop spammig the porn thread with this

stop being 12, because there is no fucking way a grown up adult with a computer and any kind of income couldnt afford 60 USD huion
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>>2344859
1. Draw on paper
2. scan (preferably) or take a photo
3. adjust contrast and clean up lineart
4. color with mouse

That's how we used to do this 10-20 years ago.
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>>2344863
well i'm not an adult, and the (used) electtronics here are more expensive (like everything). and well fuck that.
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>>2344866
If you are underage, then you shouldn't be posting here.
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>>2344866
still, you can get decent tablet for 60 USD
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Thinking about a new porn drawing I got this idea, should I make it?
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Just do it!
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>>2344886
Your art is pretty much 10 year old tier shit, so I don't really care.
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>>2344726
If anything I think the torso's a lil' short.
Not really a fan-a the details either, incidentally; might wanna look at another artist's work to see if you can figure a more tasteful approach.
S'alright by-and-by. Might be nice to see your work in a few months if you're practicing.

>>2344732
herp-a-fuckin'-derp.
Wowee you're so insightful. teach me senas pie and makk me master artist
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>>2344833
you're stagnating, bud.
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>>2344920
>herp-a-fuckin'-derp.
he might have been rude, but what he said is completely true.
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>>2344925
I'm curious. What makes you think so?
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>>2344833
I wish I could draw like this.
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isn't porn art limiting since most positions only look good at certain angles and most pictures have used those angles before.

Meaning porn art is usually doing the same thing with different characters.

How to make it interesting?
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>>2344941
isnt sport pictures limiting since most positions only look good at certain angles and most pictures have used those angles before.

Meaning sport art is usually doing the same thing with different characters.

How to make it interesting?
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>>2344941
>>2344944
isn't art limiting since most positions only look good at certain angles and most pictures have used those angles before.

Meaning art is usually doing the same thing with different characters.

How to make it interesting?
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>>2344595
can I see your sketch of this?
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https://www.patreon.com/ShannonMaer?ty=h

Why aren't you starting your Patreon?
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>>2344963
Real question, at what level or art output do you need to be at for a Patreon to pay off?
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>>2344972
>level or art
More like level of exposure
Its all about the fanbase
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>>2344985
So the question is how many followers do you have and how many of them have burning wallets?
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>>2344963
>https://www.patreon.com/ShannonMaer?ty=h
At first I was, oh, a 3d modeler, whatever.
Then I checked his Patreon and thought, oh, he actually draws 2d, neat.
Then I've seen he does DAZ studio tutorials and I was, oh, a 3D modeler that wants us to believe he can draw. So, yeah, whatever.
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>>2344985
>level of exposure
>fanbase
Which can easily come with "level of art".
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>>2344925
>>2344928
dont bother bbc senpai, theyre probably just fishing for attention.
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>>2344990
>"level of art"

Pandering to people and their fandoms/fetishes gets you an audience faster than actually being good at your craft. That's a fact. So it really is more a question of exposure, since your level doesn't need to be that high to make money off your work.
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>>2345007
How do you get exposure? I mean I'm not that great but more than occasionally I see people who can be considered bad, but have some small amount of followers when I have virtually none.
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>>2344340
be care full of your lines and composition this is how it reads,
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>>2345021
>how do you get exposure
Pander to fandoms and/or fetishes. You don't have to be a great artist to sell because you can always just pander to people who obsess over cartoons and fetishes and the internet is littered with people like that. It's a lot easier if you have mainstream tastes or like following trends since the numbers you'd rack in will be greater.
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Okay, I've done some progress on that picture I've been working on.

Cleaned up some shit too. Better?

I know it's still lot of work to do(like the collar thingy), but I enjoy critique, because it gives me the opportunity to grow.

>>2345056
Roger that.
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>>2345059
If you pander to many fetishes in the long run you lose fans who don't like fetishes other than their own. If you are a good artist you can actually rely on how good your art is instead of HAVING to go out of your way to ponder to fetishes.
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>>2345086
You should stop trying to polish this thing. Your fundamentals are the ones that should be polished anon. Stop spending so much time on a single pic and instead do multiple studies with references and lots of gesture training.
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>>2345095
Usually I do stop early if I see something isn't that good.

But this time I wanted to finish it.
I don't think it's bad to try to finish something instead of going 'fuck it' and starting over again every single time.
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>>2345107
Stop making excuses and go sharp your fundamentals.
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>>2345086
This reads really bad, anon... Is the guy just hovering above her? Is he standing on chairs? Is he an alien with super-long legs? And the other anon is right, looking at the thumb, you just get the impression that he's some weird critter standing/gripping her shoulders with his hand-feet! Leg muscles are incorrect too. The girl is pretty alright, but the weird dude just ruins everything, I'd just remove him completely.
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>>2345107
Don'the listen to him anon one of the best ways to identify on which fundamentals you're weakest on is to finish a piece so you can identify what you improve on, the more you do this the better, I think what oscar the grouch is should start is finish this but go work on fundamentals after because you are not going to be satisfied evenot after you make all the improvements on this piece at this stage you your skils, my primary suggestion onot this piece is relocate the eyes, you should have seen this already though, and that mouth needs some work
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>>2345123
Yeah, he was suposed to be standing on something behind her. Haven't touched the dude ever since I started, I guess that was a mistake.
> I'd just remove him completely.
Maybe I'll do just that.
>>2345127
From what I've also noticed at looking at it, the left eye should go slightly to the right and up. Mouth with nose also slightly up maybe?
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>>2345090
>If you are a good artist you can actually rely on how good your art is instead of HAVING to go out of your way to ponder to fetishes.

We are talking about pornfags. Quality does not trump fandom or fetish to consumers. The internet is loaded with unimpressive/mediocre artists with loads of followers because they pander to particular fandoms and fetishes. The quality just doesn't have to be absolute bottom of the barrel beginner level. High end beginner to low end intermediate levels is enough to get you a pretty big following among pornfags when you pander and that's what most internet smut artists do.
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>>2345107
If you spend so much time on a single pic that has fundamental flaws, your polishing and shading will resent of that too.
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>>2345137
Some thoughts, take em with a grain of salt
1. Try making dude's legs stand straighter on the ground so he doesn't look like he has long ass legs
2. The shaft of the dude's penis is too high on his crotch imo, it's hard to see how his pelvis is tilted, i don't know if this is because his muscle insertions are strange or not, doesn't mean you have to redraw the cock, try just moving the rest of him around
3. See if making the dude's color more muted could make him not pop so damn much

Also as anon said, her eyes are wonky
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>>2344928
Well, it seems like your rushing through drawings these days. Maybe I'm just imagining it, but the quality of your drawings is pretty inconsistent, too.
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how do you draw porn without having to jerk it every 10 minutes?
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jesus christ
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>>2345273
I don't understand. Is this good? Bad? How's he getting a decent perspective? Is he using a reference?
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>>2345270
Draw porn that isn't related to your interests. If you like drawing farts, drawing them will make you want to fap.

I will say if I'm fap then try to draw, I very quickly lose interest so don't do that.
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Working on this, first time painting with SAI, thoughts?
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>>2345281
he has a model but the camera doesnt show her taking that pose, so idk if he actually got her to do that
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>>2345286
oh wait he did lol...

dirty old man
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>>2345270
I personally am too distracted trying to find mistakes in my drawing.
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>>2345283
I have an everything fetish. I cant even draw a feminine hand without getting hard.
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How do you anons go about training your linework?

I want to improve mine, but don't know where to start. Is it just a matter of practice?
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>>2345291
>I cant even draw a feminine hand without getting hard

lel
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>>2345291
What about feminine penises?
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