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http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
>fellowBro's books :
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http://posemaniacs.com/
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Went with OP image to avoid FiRez shitfaggotry and because redlining should be encouraged and the base art was also wasn't too bad. People are probably still going to argue over it but I'm hoping it might dissuade at least a little shitposting.
>>2277050
I'm doing a little cow and it's supposed to be fur but I can't tell if it looks good or not.
Should I stop now and try other way to paint the damn thing?
>>2277054
If you're drawing one of these guys their hair bunches together in clumps, so the values shouldn't look as smooth as what you have. Otherwise most cows have really short hair and all you really need to do to define it is some subtle highlights where it mattes. Find a good reference and go from there.
>>2277058
Thanks but I'm talking about the light and the look of the fur.
I fear that it looks like something someone made in flash
>>2277063
Oh, well, yah, the lighting does look pretty bad. Even with a really intense light source it shouldn't look as washed out as that. As to the fur, it looks really flat, there's no definition. If it's that length across the entire body it shouldn't look as smooth as it does, even if it isn't wavy like the Highland Cow's.
>>2277050
that anatomy reminds me of the blood elfs from wow, fucking sexy.
Just realized I forgot the thread title, wouldn't be surprised if FiRez took that as an excuse to make his own.
Alright, new thread is up:
>>2277105
Please ignore this one and forgive my faggotry.
>>2277098
Nope you fucking imbecile, I only make it when no one has started one.
>>2277213
Really sweet stuff. The colours work very well on the one on the right, certainly it is nicer than the yellow tone of the others.
Left: design on this one is the weakest in my opinion. The view doesn't really show what is going on. Is it a turtle shell? Is it a flat oval? What is over his head? A hat? Is it attached to the thing on his back? Why would he have such a massive thing on him if he's disabled? Why does he need a torch if he's blind? How is the shell thing attached to him? Too many questions, not enough answers in the drawing. His pose too is pretty boring, I imagine he would be more hunched over with the weight of that thing. Perhaps his peg leg could have a more interesting design to support the entire thing more?
Middle: Fun design. Bit bland though. Could use some more emphasis on the whole death shaman thing. Maybe more shrunken heads, or a satchel with herbs, or have better tattoo designs that represent death and cover the body or arm more. Would be good to emphasize the fact that he's wearing a skull on his face. Leaving it white like the leg would work I think. Also he feels off balance a bit.
Right: Looks good, but the design can be pushed a bit more. I feel like I've seen some similar designs before--how can you make yours stand out?
>>2277184
Actually I've seen you do exactly that, claimed you didn't see it because there was no title, but keep pretending faggot.
>>2277233
The problem is that without the title it doesn't come up in the catalogue so I didn't see it when I made one people decided to use it and it was also too late to delete it
Keep crying :>
>>2277242
>I only make it when no one has started one
>or when I conveniently miss them
I'm only salty because I can't filter your stupid ass. You insist on attention whoring by forcing yourself into most of the OPs so if I added you to the list I'd miss most of these threads.
>>2277254
And you give me that attention that you think I need. Oh boy
You claim concern about seeking the best for ic but you are only making it worse trying to troll someone like me and others who are only seeking to get better.
You already admitted last thread that you dont draw and your mental gymnastics are sjw level (or maybe you are just plain stupid)
Just cut it out and stop wasting your life.
>>2277260
Standard fare for 4chan.
>>2277279
>trying to troll me
>>You already admitted last thread that you dont draw
>implying
I didn't interact with you at all in the last thread you dumb fuck.
>>2277294
It's Ric, aka Pirez aka nikufag aka girly wetback. He works here. 9 out of 10 Anons you talk to here is just him samefagging. He's upset because he thinks he sees a pattern in your posts from other threads.
>>2277294
It still applies to you, dumbfuck
Better late than never?
It was my first time doing value digitally so I learned a lot even though I half-assed it. I'm doing Loomis heads / hands next. (I know I'm shit but at least it motivated me to get something done.)
Well this looks promising. This is all just fine and dandy.
>>2277317
and some aborted fetuses for the laughs (sage)
>>2277227
Thanks for your input.
I changed the old guy to look more like a potion/loot seller and give him a pet owl cause of good vision. I changed his staff to something more interesting, you're right about the torch, it didn't make any sense.
The thing on top of him was supposed to look like some kind of screen, i put in the shadow this time so it's more notable.
I put some eye tatoos on the middle guy cause I couldn't think of anything good and a canteen with like idk, sacred water or something. Btw the skull color comes later, the yellow tone is just a selection I make to clip the layers on top later and not worry about painting out of my lines
As for the right guy I couldn't really think of anything to improve on his design but I gave him a skull spear.
Colors are off cause sketchbook pro cant handle clipping masks
>>2277326
thanks man
>>2277326
thanks senpai
yeah, I tried to have the light coming from the same angle as the camera to make it easier. only later did I stumble upon the unfortunate realization that the sun is above us.
Want to make comic about vampire necrophilia's band. Can't draw music instrument per shit.
How can I make this better ?
>>2277401
add Swampthing
I was asked to draw a book cover. Not including the title because my graphic design work is shite. I got really into this, desu. Any way I could make it look better?
>>2277408
Yeah, you could learn the basics and do it over again. Sorry dude, it's fucking abominable. But the good news is you can improve if you work at it.
>>2277408
Do you get paid for this? I'am jealous as shit.
>>2277427
Nah, Like I said, asked. This took like 16 hours. I wish I got paid for it.
>>2277432
Those 16 hours would have been better spent studying how to draw.
I would suggest not doing stuff like for your friends at this stage, because if you continue to draw and improve chances are you'll be frightfully embarrassed by this in the future.
>>2277427
Right? Makes me stop believeing
>>2277435
I'm sure I'll be more embarrassed by the fact I agreed to do this in about 2 years. I had fun, though, and personally, I care about that most. Getting good is great and all, but I'm not gonna rush it.
>>2277438
You'd be surprised how quick you can improve.
You've already shown you can draw clean lines, if you skim over some of the information in the sticky you'll probably improve your eyes a great deal, and that's huge.
And easy one is light. What you've done in your picture is called pillow shading, which means you haven't drawn the light as coming from a specific direction, but sort of shaded around the outside of your shapes. You've already shown that you know that shading is used by an artist to describe a 3D form, thats not a bad place to start from.
The main problem with your shading is that the light is coming from unrealistic sources. And you can fix that really easily if you think about the problem.
After that you should put some real hours into studying anatomy, even if you only want to draw anime or cartoon characters, an understanding of anatomy is key.
Any crits? About a 4 or 5 hour live model.
>>2277401
Add more colors and get rid of the black.
>>2277502
I just love your expressions. I forgot to ask you, do you have a blog?
>>2277502
Is she looking & touching dildo model x-2000 in that pic?
>>2277213
cool
>>2277520
Don't hate, queermo. I really like his stuff and I see potential.
>>2277328
I like the design of old guy's staff, but to me it does not read as being slung over his shoulder which feels like the intent. Left guys mask and middle guys tattoos are cool. I feel that with a more extreme/ridiculous pose the middle guy would have more personality, but that's a my taste thing
>>2277509
I started upload my good stuff on dA http://qcmai.deviantart.com/
but sketches and other shit I post only here
>Draw Thred
>>2277539
okay :)
>>2277317
Is this the guy we were waiting for yesterday?
>>2277524
Oh you're right, I didn't move his arm since the last update when I got rid of the shell thing.
I pushed the pose as much as I could without having to redo the lineart which I really don't want to.
btw nice designs.
>>2277574
You're amusing, but this chicken scratch ruins it.
Pro tip: Photoshop is a terrible tool to make high quality lines. Programs like manga studio or sketchbook pro can make your lines much smoother.
>>2277634
And the more I look at this board, the more I realize it should be called Artwork/Shitposting.
>>2277634
Post work friend-o :^)
>>2277401
tell me of your brushes
>>2277401
Here i added Swampthing for you
>>2277636
The picture is pretty cringe tier, though.
wait guys, how the fuck does bear skin works, how does one wear it ?
>>2277652
no reference, this was a memory test
>>2277656
idk but this is swell.
swell.
>>2277653
Regardless, this place is more shitposting than critiquing. There was literally no purpose for that post other than to try and make anon feel bad. It gets so old.
>>2277669
did'nt you hear the news?
shitposting is the new art
>>2277681
>it all makes sense now
I never realized /ic/ was so avante garde.
>>2277656
Those muscles...
>>2277636
I'm down with Artwork/Critique/Shitposting. When I post it's usually to try and give constructive criticism, but sometimes it's just wasted effort. But, by all means, if you are not OP, feel free to give an extensive critique on this guy's work, you don't need to wait for me to do it.
>>2277642
Why? Pic related, it's my work
pls send help
>>2277574
kek
>>2277695
10/10 Gonna go look out the window wistfully.
>>2277695
Obviously his work can't really be given an extensive critique, he can only be told that he needs to learn more fundamentals and practice more. But if you feel it's wasted effort to tell someone go crack open a copy of Fun With a Pencil, I guess I don't understand the logic in thinking posting to make fun of someone is more worth the effort. There isn't a single person on the face of the planet who didn't absolutely suck at drawing the first time they tried it. Making fun of someone who's at least acknowledged they suck and is actively seeking help just seems so lame to me. But I can tell by your attitude thus far this isn't going to sway you. I just get so disappointed.
>>2277706
your perspective and gesture are fairly good, but your facial features are awful, rework that.
>>2277695
>implying this took less effort than typing maybe 2-3 sentences
Quality shitposting, bro. Do you push down kids and take their candy because it's too much effort to take out your wallet and buy it yourself?
>>2277817
Well it is cheaper that way.
>>2277652
I love the style and the value / shading.
The perspective seems strange to me. The camera is at bench level, but all of the slices are cut at an oblique angle, and it seems the top of her body is more downward than the bottom.
Also the neck muscles should probably tilt?
I love the way the wasps perch on things.
Hi I suck.
How the fuck do you paint armor from imagination? I feel like I don't understand how the value would be at all. Is there any good tutorials out there on it or is there possibly a way I could fudge this? I'm mostly having a problem with the shin/knee guards.
crit
alright, i'm done with this guy for now. Is the "cocky" feeling getting through ?
>>2277492
if you are using toned paper you should definitely use some white charcoal to bring out the highlights
>>2277866
yeah its cocky for sure, those feet though....
>>2277894
those aren't feet man, they're boots.
Working on this.
>>2277656
Like a cape (this is not mine)
Thoughts?
>>2277938
artist?
>>2277954
http://www.artofbrandonmoore.com/blog/
>>2277954
his signature is literally right there
>>2277965
I know, god. Why can't that idiot just google |̵͔3̭̞͍́/͍͡\/̠͇̞͝\?
>>2277050
The extensor digitorum on the right hand should have retained the muscle fibers all the way, rather than turning to tendon halfway
and the digiti minimi is grossly oversized
>>2277867
Not on toned paper sadly, the photo just made it look that way.
Thanks for the feedback
>>2277515
bad use of tools
Been fiddling with this all day, I know 1 and 7 are stiff poses will fix, I was wondering what you guys think of the composition/ideas behind it.
>>2277652
Cool
Been fiddling with this all day, I know 1 and 7 are stiff poses will fix, I was wondering what you guys think of the composition/ideas behind it.
This is my current work
>>2277317
Better never, I'm not sure you knew what you were doing. Construction is really rough, you need to go back and take a look at some books.
For someone who made some back handed comments before, I suggest avoiding it when critiquing. Don't be like the other d/ic/ks
>>2277951
Bumping feedback
>>2277317
I still don't understand anything about the exchange that went on here. Supposedly someone who used to post here tried posting again and was scared off by a pretty mild critique and berating, but I'm fairly certain the first post was just made by some troll who swiped a pic from someone's gallery he was hoping would get made fun of. You said you liked the color on it, but that was the worst aspect of it for me, he shaded with pure black and white and it looked so dead, plus there were weird random textures overlaid on everything with seemingly no rhyme or reason, and then you decided to draw another version of it for even less reason as nobody called you out for your art. I just
Just
>>2277401
I love this, i think you did a really good job on the values, and the overall picture is drawn really well. The only thing I would say is that the colors feel a bit washed out, i think you could use some different colors to shade the green instead of just gray tones. As personal taste I almost never use 100% black, you could use a really dark blackish blue if you really wanted, depends on how you want the whole piece to feel.
>>2277951
>>2278098
Looks bad.
Everything looks flat because of poor lighting.
Heavy outlines aren't helping either.
Clouds look like some shitty effect made in photoshop, rather than 3 dimensional volumes.
Blurry edges and random spots of white make your picture look like you applied too much water and your paper is wrinkled now.
Sticky/10
Just sent this off to a client
What I'm seeing outside my window right now. Guess the time zone ;-)
>>2278140
gross collar
Rate my rendering m8s
>>2278160
8/10
this is the portrait of one of my elves
I have more elves if you are interested
>>2277811
Yea faces aren't a strong point of mine, thanks.
>>2277840
If you want a shinier look like what I've painted think of it as a series of mirrors which all reflect their surroundings and don't be afraid to use hard edges and higher contrast, especially for the specular reflections. Having a background also helps because it gives you a source for your reflections.
>>2278150
Really like this anon, i dunno time zone but is it morning?
>>2278167
Thumbnail looks good
>>2278170
yup
>>2278057
highlights look great, how did you do them?
>>2277951
I'll be honest it looks exactly like a junior high school art class assignment that I had to teach very basic atmospheric prospective. No other thoughts than, meh. Not interesting enough at all
>>2278168
face got worse somehow, you need a model/photo to reference
>>2278168
bruh how did you block in that armour well and make such a terrible face, the skill levels dont make sense
>>2278184
>>2278167
>>2278173
forgot image, sorry
>>2278180
>face got worse somehow
fuk
>>2278140
THAT FUCKING NOSE! LOL!
>>2278183
Honestly I just can't draw. The only practice I've done for the past month has been still life paintings and I've never done a proper run through loomis.
Faces have always given me the shits so I'll start practicing them more I guess.
This is an inhabitant of Sur - the kind that goes to a party every day or two.
>>2278197
those are really good, I can actually see why the metal looks a lot higher level than the face now if you just did those. And yeh you definitely need to start studying some faces like you did with those still lifes, you don't need loomis, just study faces and their 3d structure
>>2278197
fucking retard, youre suppose to be taking notes when doing still lives. not just trying to get a 1:1 likeness.
>>2278140
is it finished? whats with the eye
i guess its video game art? i fucking hate those bland unimaginative portraits as character visualizations, it makes me instantly hate the guy and the game. but i suppose thats not your fault
>>2278202
Cheers m8 will do.
>>2278203
>not just trying to get a 1:1 likeness
I didn't even get a 1:1 likeness for any of them. And I do take notes/questions for a few, mental ones for all. Stuff like
>why are none of my colors going beyond 50% saturation
>why is everything so much closer on the color wheel than expected
>how can I show x as simply as possible
>what shapes do I need to make to show these objects with as few colors as possible
>what happens to x as I view it through this color glass
>why does the saturation increase here
etc goes through my mind.
>>2277807
>>2277817
It's not a question of which takes more effort, but is the effort worth it?
There are people who want to get better, and people who just want praise, who think they are good despite being atrocious. Have you guys seen OP's reply to the one guy who recommend he doesn't take the job and spend the time studying because he would be embarrassed to have that work displayed in the future?
"I'm sure I'll be more embarrassed by the fact I agreed to do this in about 2 years. I had fun, though, and personally, I care about that most. Getting good is great and all, but I'm not gonna rush it."
Drawing to him is just a hobby, he doesn't think he sucks at drawing (just at graphic design, but his drawings are great), and there is nothing I could say to convince him otherwise.
He doesn't take his work seriously and neither should I. He is a kid who draws furries like the other kids who draw furries on deviantart, so if I had to chose between making a huge critique on how he can improve or remaking merc_wip from scratch just to post as a response to make some people laugh, I would gladly chose to remake merc_wip, because I feel the time would be more appreciated.
>>2278197
I love these fucking studies, and I also love medieval fantasy. You are going to make it anon, now don't be lazy and study faces and people in general
>>2278238
is this another elf of sur?
>>2278051
7 or 8......maybe 3
Either of those would look great and the most interesting visually.
>>2277492
Very large torso compared to size of legs.
Please, I need help here. Why is it so boring, so dull? I am trying to paint in photoshop, but I just can't find the right color.
>>2278294
Get some reference and see how there are subtle shifts in hue, saturation and temperature in different areas and then try to apply that to your painting.
>>2278197
As for heads and faces...learn how to draw them right away. Primarily work on learning the planes of the face.
Do a still life of an Asaro Head.
Once you understand how light falls on a head, then simply block in the light and dark values. It's all you need, really.
Don't worry about rendering in the beginning.
Check out Mignola or any artist tht uses ink on the daily. It's all about shape design.
>>2278292
Holy shit
I knew there was something wrong with the legs
Thanks
>>2278299
Thank you, gonna do it. I have a feeling that I can't see the color temperature well enough, maybe with some practice it will improve.
>>2278185
Vivec/10
>>2278228
You're sure implying and assuming a lot. I wouldn't have asked "How to improve" if I didn't care. I think that's just a poor excuse to be a "poopy butthead" as the kids say.
>>2277408
you need to work on the fundamentals. Check the sticky
A book i would recommend would be "Keys to Drawing" as well as "Fun with a pencil"
>>2278247
i don't know what that is.
Been working on my self portrait for class, still need to the background
>>2278437
Get a shave and a hair cut and just for giggles try acting like man for once in your life.
>>2278437
looks like you just smeared random mixed colours of paint everywhere until it looked vaguely like yourself
>>2278469
yeah thats pretty much what I did, dont steal my technique
Trying to get into hand painted textures. How are my first two attempts?
>>2278489
looks like disney style, do you go to calarts or something
>>2278498
Thanks, I'm going for a little stylisation. I'm self-taught but why does it make you think of calarts?
>>2278505
they do a lot of disney shit, and this looks like its straight out of pixar
>>2278176
Just used pencils from H4 to B4 and a tombow mono zero
If you asking about the technique i don't even know if i have any since I'm self-taught
Real fucking desious question.
How the fuck does one upgrade his creativity?
Most of my time is spent in between studies and sketches but when I want to draw i feel like "Maybe this? No", "That? No, its boring", "No it gonna suck", "Hey guys you want something? Yes, draw XXXX plz! Shit fuck I duess i don't see it"
I mean I don't see shit.
My brain won't fucking put composition of any worth together.
i sketch poses and delete then, keep sketching and keep deleting and very rarealy i feel like "AW YISS! i will be drawing this !"
not sure what I was going for
>>2278294
>>2278299
Last stage is closer to the original reference and made after some color study.
Illustration for a game I'm working on. It is likely to appear in the game so I need crits to make sure it it's appealing.
>>2278635
Perfectly appealing. The rocks in the stream are kind of hard to see.
All in all, it just needs to be tightened up more - especially the bridge. Good stuff!
>>2278635
Pretty nice. Also, my mom liked it a lot...
... Not that it matters, but anyway, saved... by my mom.
>>2277621
color and corrected shadows
>>2278653
love these. really really cool.
>>2278577
You should learn.the thumbnail process. Do 20-30 thumbnails for a composition idea show it to people get their opinions. Also studies when rightly done will help your visual library.
The other thing too is that from what you said you probably lack confidence in painting. Think about it this way, of you don't how to paint something you don't know, so no reason to beat youself up over it. Just practice it and learn it.
One of the things I've had.trouble.with before is getting out of the "ugly" phase. Once you learn how to get past that, the real learning starts.
Todays study, it took me 2 hours.
>>2278701
whoa which one is the photo O.O??
>>2278701
you lost the cardboard texture, yours looks like plastic, still amazing though
>>2277242
You do make a lot of threads... and you didn't take my advice on doing hand studies, instead you keep ignoring hands in feet by making torqued up postures. Which isn't a bad thing, it just kinda disappointing honestly.
You're still a nice guy tho bro breh brah
>>2278701
This is /ic/, you're looking for /3/
>>2277050
>>2277660
>>2277693
>>2277938
thank you, here it is finished.
expurimentan
>>2278760
he should be poking some corpse with a stick, directly into the anus
>>2278761
>>2278761
Hahahahaholy shit. Now I need to see this picture again. Do you have it?
>>2278588
He's missing some of the back of his cranium.
>>2278635
very nice, but I feel like the upper left is missing something. Maybe some small game/birds?
>>2278653
These are really neato
>>2278760
i'm reading dune right now, kinda makes me think of the fremen. Keep going, maybe push your darks.
Pic related is from a statue @ my local museum. i had to quit halfway though for reasons. Feedback anway would be cool.
>>2278788
Another one i had to stop halfway for reasons. Crit?
>>2278635
Bridge edges are too perfectly cut. Also, maybe put some reflected light under the bridge.
>>2278635
Imo you oversaturate the crap out of everything to the point where it all just becomes a bright Kinkade-style mess. It's a shame though because the image has a ton of potential I think
>>2278701
You either discovered the magic of stencils independently or you have a stash of vintage airbrushing manuals lying around that your jaded Uncle who was making lots of money before CAD usurped the market gave you.
>>2278802
It looks like a regular digital painting to me, what are you implying?
>>2278718
yeh a grainy texture overlay might do the trick
Okay I decided to keep working on this. I know the perspective on it is still wrong on the glaive thing, I'm working my way to it. I wish someone would tell me yes or no on there being ribbons attached to it. Should I keep the loin cloth flap things? Any other things to be aware of?
>>2278192
you're fucking retarded
>>2278168
Thanks dude, I'll give that a try.
did some doodles while being designated driver for a group of friends last night lol
>>2278669
thanks man
>>2278969
the idea is there. the composition of the image is just stiff. we'd be seeing the body slump pretty much immediately following the cut.
i'd suggest working on some of the gesture as we just see him holding the blade, it doesnt feel like he's still swinging, which i think would look nice if it was
>>2278916
sick
crop of a sketch, i haven't drawn in ages
is there anything so obviously fucked?
>>2279001
apart from small head
I come again for your aide, /ic/. For today I have a simple thought:
FUCKING LIGHTING.
FUCK
HOW DOES I FUCKING LIGHTING
>>2278894
Yeah I can't place the ribbons until I really get the glaive set right but then hopefully I can get them in a better position. As for the flaps I kinda like the idea of them, is there anything you think I could do to make them work or should I really just ditch them entirely?
>>2279005
by learning form
>>2279007
FUCK
dragon anon here, tried to pull out the highlights (working mostly from front area of interest toward back) but I'm still not sure if I've got it right
>>2278854
yeah the ribbons look dumb
>>2279029
I could make it a feathery plume instead. I mean they could just look dumb because they're still just a sketchy block-in, though, it's possible it would look better once I fleshed them out. Besides like I said to the other anon, they're not in the place they would be since I haven't corrected the glaive yet.
>>2279027
your values are really weak imo
Lay it on me hard /ic/ ...
>>2278998
Blend it all smoothly now anon, just try to smudge all the imperfection but keeping the values at the same time.
>>2279058
You want it hard?
The hands look off (especially the fingers), try and find some hand tutorials. Here's one from tumblr user discount-supervillain.
Also, the proportions are good, but the general shape of some areas, like the head, look a little weird. Maybe re-do them with better shape, paying attention to the picture as a whole.
>>2277050
posting these here too for feedback because the sketchbook thread seems awfully unpopulated
>>2279107
im loving your gestures. pretty solid man.
hard to say much else, except you should do some full drawings now i think
>>2279082
Is there a better way to blend other than the blur/smudge tool?
I think I understand this form for the time being... I hope this is good?
>>2279107
pretty rad, brah.
>>2279114
dont use the blur tool, i havent touched it once since i started digital art. Use a soft round on a low opacity with pen pressure
>>2279120
that or any brush really and manually do it through color picking and smoothing it out
>>2278167
ayy
quick 20 minute sketch no reference
>>2279120
dont do this. Take a hard round brush go to brush settings, turn on transfer and set the opacity jitter control to pen pressure and flow jitter control to pen pressure aswell. leave flow and opacity at 100% on the main window. Go back to the brush settings and click brush tip shape and set the spacing to like 15-20%. try blending some things now.
knight for school game project
>>2279198
forgot to mention, turn off shape dynamics pen pressure on the main window and pressure for size.
>>2279198
>>2279120
Thanks to both of you guys for offering your advice. Tried both techniques out a bit.
>>2278641
Thanks, for the final version I'll def do that.
>>2278650
What does your mom do in 4chan anon? I am disappoint
>>2278788
>Maybe some small game/birds?
Yeah, good idea. Thanks
>>2278791
Yeah the bridge needs work, that's right. And the water overall.
>>2278796
Very nice edit anon, I see what you're going for. I actually tried to make this more saturated because I always thought the interesting parts in my works always looked washed out, I don't know why. And for this illustration there is so much color because it is setting a color concept that will be consistent through the levels of that area. There will be lots of red and blue/orange as contrast so I wanted to show that in the illustration. But thanks a lot for your edit, I'll save that and get some ref from it for the retouch.
>>2279200
Man I just started animation for a few game sprites and even the most basic stuff takes a lot of time and work, so I think it is really cool what you pull of with your animations. Never imagined that shit would be so hard
Any advice how to improve this?
>>2278739
Neat! The only problem with the "both hands tucked under" arms crossed stance is that it either looks like you're too lazy/bad to draw hands or that your subject is a tool who wants to make his biceps look bigger. Doesn't convey what crossed arms are supposed to.
>>2279217
palm looks too long
How could I improve my values? I think that there definitly needs to be better and more consistent plane shifts. Are there any resources on how to learn about planes?
>>2279293
Forgot to add the picture.
Sigh, long time no post
>>2279296
Good point. I need to study materials as well, I have neglected that aspect for to long. Any tips on learning different surface materials material?
>>2279303
Glad to see you post again! Btw cool character.
>>2279303
loving these. saved
>>2279303
Nice.
Sometime ago in a thread about the art industry I though it was you posting about working in the field and such. hehe
>>2279304
That is exactly what still lifes/master studies/photo studies are good for. But a quick tip is that the shape of the highlight gives a lot of indication of the material. Skin tends to have very textured highlights where as smooth plastic has round hard highlights. That's why skin can look plastic if you paint all highlights with a hard round brush.
>>2279303
>>2279320
It's nice to see you back and posting (jeez, how long has it been now??) but I would take a moment before rendering these and just think a bit on what you want your portfolio to be and what jobs you will get with it and so on. What are you trying to show? Right now not a single one of those characters does anything INTERESTING. Like sure they are well drawn, but the designs are the most cliched boring things ever from the generic characters themselves to even the shape language. Maybe at the end of the day that's what you want, but maybe not. I would take some time and try to think a bit on it first. Is there some way you can change the designs to bring in more of yourself and have them stand out somehow from every other generic fantasy characters (other than just the way you render or whatever)? Is it even worth rendering to "great detail"? What are you trying to gain from it or show? Can you give them more of a backstory or something that would change their designs somehow that reflects a real person rather than "female elf archer" or "hooded assassin"?
Obviously this is a matter of opinion and I can't speak for you in terms of what you want to create or show, but I can't help but feel that you are "wasting" your skills on these uninspired characters when you can bring YOU to the table more.
>>2279327
I'm another guy, Eitherway, the designs look well thought out in my opinion, but they are traditional, in the context of games and illustration atleast. The silhouette displays the character attributes well and so does the costumes without being to generic. Wheteher one likes it or not is a matter of preference in style and motif basically. I think, because this is only a flat color lay in, that the character and their design will look even more awesome with some good rederning of form and light on top of it.
>>2279327
I see your point and I agree for the most part, the point is to get my concept art section of my portfolio up to date, as ive been unemployed for a long time now and I desperately need a job at a game studio, been searching far and wide with no results. I will not overrender these ofc as it would take literally forever. The designs might change during the render process and i agree that I took the short road with most of them. I dont want any too crazy designs and like to keep it somewhat traditional and conventional looking, but ill see what I can do to make them more interesting. Ill also be adding simple small backgrounds for each at the end, havent decided on anything solid yet
>>2279327
It's perfectly fine concept art for portfolio purposes. Clients want to see artists tackle generic subjects to see what the artist can do to turn something generic into something unique. They want to see their visual language in a controlled and familiar environment.
This makes it easier to compare artists to each other and see their differences in execution.
And let's face it, most games that are being developed today have a generic high fantasy theme so it's a good idea to have some of that in your portfolio either way.
>>2279340
Have you not been freelancing? I would have thought you're good enough for that kind of work.
>>2279340
Might want to shake up the color schemes a bit, there's a shit ton of blue and gold in there.
>>2279339
>>2279348
Yeah I can see your points, and at the end of the day it is a matter of taste. But does he really need 8 fairly generic characters? If he wants to show his ability to take on the generic archetypes then he should need only 2 or 3 at most, then the rest would be better to do something a bit fresher in my opinion. The industry wants "traditional design" but still want to stand out as something special. Why would they pick you over fantasyartist#458? Also good design shouldn't need much rendering at all to look good.
>>2279340
I know that feeling of needing work haha! If you want to attract clients for character design stuff though perhaps a different approach would be more ideal? For a studio position they probably don't need you sitting and rendering out a ton of things. I think it would be more effective to show multiple iterations of the same designs. Rather than show 8 different rendered characters, show 4 characters, but for each you can show 5 thumbnails, 3 variations the best thumbnails at a more thought out level, then 3 colour variations on the best one of those, then maybe a slightly more rendered one of the best of those. This ability to start broad and narrow down a design while exploring all the possibilities is pretty key. It also might be good to have the characters designed with their importance considered more. Is one a main character? Make the design really kickass and iconic. Is one the sidekick? Make them cool but not competing with the main guy. Is one of them the villain? Make them also iconic and cool, but they need to be very different visually from the hero. Are some of the characters supporting or background characters? Maybe you need to make some sacrifices in their design so they are slightly more plain or boring and won't intrude on the coolness of the main dude and villain. Trevor Claxton I believe has talked about this type of stuff in the past, though I haven't read it for a couple years probably now.
Any tips for drawing muscles and wings?
>>2278809
>looks like a regular digital painting
>what are you implying
What are YOU implying? When did I say it wasn't a "regular digital painting?". Airbrushing digitally is even more accommodating than by analog/mechanical means. You don't have to worry about condensation ruining a piece you've been slaving over for 50 hours, you don't have to duck and cover every time the compressor refills, it's great! No need to get so defensive there tiger, when did a little bit of banter hurt anyone?
>>2279340
> as ive been unemployed for a long time now and I desperately need a job at a game studio, been searching far and wide with no results.
a-are the doomsayers right guys?
>>2279364
yes, its called google. just type there "wing tutorial" and stop being a faggot
>>2279422
Not to speak for him, but I know he has dealt with some personal demons that have affected his output and its likely that this has had an impact on his career as well.
>>2278769
fuck, cant find it atm
>>2279427
No need to be a cunt senpai.
>>2279430
Yeah, I remember him talking about it. Anyway would be interesting to hear it from him as I've had some troubles too.
>>2279467
Literally every pro on this board as far as I know has dealt with similar things.
35min, Artrage. Ross-style.
I plan to redraw the same piece over and over again in increasingly shorter timelimits, to explore the gradual degradation of my work.
i want to find the point where a good painting becomes a bad one - but first i gotta learn how to make a good painting, lel.
>>2279469
Hmmm... Interesting. I gave up on drawing and going pro a lot of times already. Just now that I'm really focused, but I always end up demotivated because of some relationship problem. This time I think I can do it as I'm dealing better with those issues, but it's interesting to hear from others struggles and how they deal with it. :)
>>2279484
Regular therapy seems to help me a bit. Other people turn to alcohol/drugs/medication which can work (short term at least).
