Beginner Thread
Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.
Do not forget to resize and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
→ → → → Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," consult the sticky: >>1579290 → → → →
Questions go in the QUESTION THREAD
This is for posting studys & getting critique.
Threadly reminder to avoid carpal tunnel:
http://www.healthline.com/health/carpal-tunnel-wrist-exercises
>Thread study: Since the forest was a failure, lets go back to animals and draw some rare pepes... i mean frogs
Old thread: >>2272656
alternative study: stupid sexy pepe
second for nobody ever tells me what I'm fucking up
>>2275828
I know that feel
>Your drawing is pretty bad, everything is wrong, study more, bye
>>2275829
I don't even get that
>>2275829
this
>>2275828
you are treasuring your stuff instead of just trashing it and starting fresh
dont overthing shit and just draw like 2h a day. anything. just draw and youll be fine
thats the only secret to it
>>2275830
and this
>>2275833
but if somebody tells me
>you're fucking the proportions up
or
>the hands should be ---
>learn how to draw gestures better
and so on, that points me into a direction of what should I improve
I'm bad for setting directions for myself
>>2275833
>dont overthing shit and just draw like 2h a day. anything. just draw and youll be fine
huh... no?
you actually need to study references and try to understand how things work, I have been drawing for years and the human face is still a challenge for me, especially at weird angles
Is "Draw Comics the Marvel Way" a valid point to an absolute beginner in anatomy learning how to draw?
>>2275837
I mean I'm an absolute beginner in drawing body, can I use this book instead of hampton, loomis or etc?
>>2275837
No, man, super heroes are mountains of muscles and take your attention away from what is really important, which is the skeleton, try to draw very skinny dudes and women, a lot more challenging and will hammer anatomy into your brain
I was given feedback yesterday on a drawing of the same subject. This time I tried my hardest not to use symbol drawing, trying to measure distances between lines and such. Am I heading in the right direction?
My hand control was always kinda shit
Im not gonna make it will I?
>>2275835
>>2275836
just force yourself tro draw what doesent feel easy - that way you know youll get some progress done, since whatever feels easy, means you are comfortable with it and you wont learn shit. always push yourself one step past that comfortable zone (just a little bit, no need to go overboard)
>>2275848
youre hopeless.
>>2275853
hmm, okay, I understand, thanks
>>2275848
the eye which is closer to the viewer is smaller than the one far away from the viewer, how does that make sense? also they are not aligned horizontally
>>2275850
You are gonna make it, you have decent precision actually
>>2275864
What really?
I thought I was meant to draw perfectly on the same line
>>2275831
>>2275830
>>2275829
>>2275828
Together with "read the sticky", I bet?
Well, you should read the sticky. Why do you want poeople to re-write down all of what is in the sticky? If people don't tell you anything particular, it means you suck at everything, so, here's a basic list:
>construction, construct 3d objects in different perspectives
>limit yourself to use fewer lines, observe carefully and think about your lines rather than doing random strokes and adjusting on the fly
>get a basic understanding of 1 and 2 point perspective by doing simple exercises, recreate everything you see on "perspective made easy"
>do careful measuring, take your time, take 1 hour measuring and do it until it's right
>study anatomy, self explanatory
>understand shapes and how light hits them; first shade the basic objects with different light position/number of light sources, then make more complex objects and shade those
>construct a face in planes (like it's a low-poly 3d object) and shade the planes, you'll understand shading
>replicate drapery, either from life or a good picture, until you learn how to shade them correctly
>as you learn shading, pay attention to the different tones, and remember to push your values
>understand hard and soft edges
>look at compositions and try to understand why they are a certain way
There. Read this post whenever you post an image and people say "read the sticky", or "everything sucks".
>>2275866
Do you actually believe great artists have robotic precision in their hands?
>>2275877
thanks, but nobody ever told me read the sticky or everything sucks, once I got told I should practice gestures more, but that's it
>>2275878
Ive watched some streams and notice that they generally go and Draw base sketch, then redraw over that and get it usually on there first try
Doxydoo is pretty good at it
>>2275884
are you the same guy who wants to draw like him and wanted to skip the whole minor "everything" part?
>>2275848
Imagine cutting the grill's face in half. See the shape is different? Nose has wrong angle, chin, muzzle.
Same would apply if we did the same to the eyes and so on.
You need to do construction and then add features depending on the construction. As I already told you before, you will never get it right unless you get lucky, which will bring you nowhere even if use this method for 50 years straight.
So get loomis book on heads and do mannequin heads construction until it's consistent. Then, add features until they are consistent. Then, draw faces from photo/life reference like you are doing now.
If you skip these steps, you will actually never get good, so I advise you to actually try or drop it, unless you love wasting time.
>>2275886
Uh, well I do want to draw like him, but I never said anything about skipping stuff, this shit takes time and dedication
>>2275894
Okay, thankyou. I'll try my hardest. Sorry for letting you down.
>>2275899
with that post I meant to say I've already read the sticky multiple times, AND nobody pointed me to it
anything to be said about these?
>>2275902
If you know the contents of the sticky you should do those things until you're doing them right, with confidence, and intuitively. If your eye is bad to judge, put your attempt over the ref and you'll see what is different.
People dont reply to the very very basic stuff generally because doing the sticky exercises fixes them. You'll get replies when things are on the right track, BUT there may be some bad habits you pick up, and people will let you know.
>>2275915
ok, thank you
>>2275848
Read a book on human anatomy for artists (and construction and values) damn it, don't make shit up.
If you don't know something you educate yourself on the matter. That's how you learn.
Don't be helpless.
I've only drawn for fun, never practised what so ever.. (I know the heels are way to big on the top four feet, that's not what im wondering)
The thing is.. How do you practise drawing?
Every time i try to practise it just ends up with a page full of scribbles and messed up shit
>>2275939
That's not how legs are constructed.
You practice drawing by using a correct base for the shaping first.
In the case of your page as an example, the correct way is to get an anatomy book or hogarth's anatomy.
You could do 10 billion of those, they'll always be wrong because that construction does not correspond with the skeleton or muscle in any way.
Also, draw bigger. Ditch the shitty lined paper. First do copies of a good reference while understanding it, then do it on your own.
That's about it.
>>2275939
Drawing from life is the best I think. If you sit yourself down and look at a bowel of fruit or a flower (or whatever you want to draw) then you have some direction, you have a goal to meet. If you fail you can see just where you fucked up by comparing it, and if you want to restart, you need only turn the thing to a different angle for new practice material. Drawing from the imagination with nothing particular in mind is just aimless, and not a good way to practice.
>>2275943
Thanks!
And yeah about the lined paper, i don't usually draw on that, just snapped a pic of the first related thing i found
sketches
![IMG_20151106_112814339[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4oxJNU8.jpg "IMG_20151106_112814339[1].jpg")
>>2275877
Only masters can tell what exactly what is wrong with an image in particular and why its bad, an intermediate or beginner can simply tell its bad, not knowing why and making guesses.
>>2275850
Try to slow down. And look at the original line.
>>2275884
I looked for him and he actually commits mistakes until he gets it right, its common
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRgFGV-OtrQ
There are no people with robotic precision (except those who waste their time mastering one shape at one size over and over again) but that's simply stupid, its normal to get it wrong sometimes even with the help of a sketch
>>2275967
Huh, well I guess I'll just keep doing about 2 pages of Dynamic sketching a day and some gesture stuff every now and then
>>2276009
it takes a while to get used to tablets...
>>2275837
It's great for a lot of things, but it never bothers to detail actual anatomy, preferring the shortcuts of showing what super-muscle looks like on heroes. It's got great beginner level material on dynamism versus static posing, on learning foreshortening, and on some basics of perspective.
For anatomy, Bridgeman is much better, and available cheaply through Dover Press.
>>2275962
Pretty easy for me to say those hands were not properly constructed, the fingers are too short, the upper spine is either too long or the bone structure underneath is not on perspective, the ears are misplaced, the eye sockes too low and the nose too long, feed are misaligned and poorly constructed, ankles aren't there.
And I've just been drawing for 2 months with a full-time jobs, so I'm fucking new and clueless, with my eye being dog shit to judge fine things.
Sure maybe I won't be able to give tips on specific bones' details or if a limb is 1/10th off or other very minor details; or advice about color and lighting, but we're on a beginner thread here and 99% of the mistakes are recognizeable by any other beginner or person who doesn't draw, even.
>>2276031
You got it wrong, the masters can tell what is wrong in a picture which is hard to tell, not my 20 minute skeleton sketch
>>2276031
And another thing, telling "everything is wrong" or "it just looks bad" shows you have no knowledge
>>2275837
I've heard that it's a good way to learn basic things like construction and posing. Not too great for anatomy bu tit should still help you make visually appealing drawing if you go through it and practice properly.
>>2276037
Yeah, but again, we're on a beginner thread here.
Look at the average stuff that is uploaded.
>>2275877
>limit yourself to use fewer lines, observe carefully and think about your lines rather than doing random strokes and adjusting on the fly
Hitting where it hurts
>>2276060
You think you read the sticky and after you learn the fundamentals you simply know how to draw, and that is a lie.
>>2276037
>>2276048
>>2275962
Good art isn't about not doing the wrong thing, it's about doing the right thing. Like, a drawing can be garbage without having a single mistake. That's why you can't turn every beginner's shit drawing into a good drawing, doesn't matter if you're a master or whatever.
inb4
>not doing the right thing is also a mistake
>you can just expand on any drawing to make it good and it's technically the same as fixing it
It's a subjective matter, there's literally no way for me to prove I'm right if you choose to disagree. You probably get where I'm coming from.
Is there anything glaringly wrong with this so far?
>>2276111
Bullshit, even something as boring as a rock can be interesting if rendered accurately
>>2276121
the neck is huge
I can draw a basic outline of a frog but god forbid I try on a realistic human. Oh well, at least I know what to work on. Any critiques on the basics of this frog?
I'm confused. Why do I love the art direction of Blokampf movies but Aaron Beck's concepts are disappointingly lacking?
>>2276136
maybe he is fat
How do I into perspective? I want to do the exercise where you draw grid lines and lay in circles: last time I was told to put the points off-paper.
Is it good enough to approximate? Should I buy a meter stick? I want to be exact.
I'm stuck with paper and pencil, and because of that
>>2276159
>How I even approach and practice his stuff?
I'm assuming as with a lot of artbooks, you copy and study the drawings within the book and then apply the concepts you learn from this to your non-study drawings.
how are my lines compared to last time?
>>2276286
post/link to last time's attempt
>>2276159
The one on construction is good
>>2276309
thats why im here
horrible shit
i would like to draw this, pls help me i havent actually just drawn something in about a month because i've been stressed about studies and other shit.
>>2276395
that's not how crossed arms look like
look for references online or take a picture
>>2276397
okay.like this?
She looks a bit retarded :/
>>2276401
your doing better than i am
>>2275821
on a scale of froggable to unfroggable
Currently trying to apply what i've learned from the first four vilppu drawing manual lectures to my practice. His videos are great but they're a fucking slog so I'm grinding on his techniques for a few days.
>>2276399
yes.. like that, but I suggest a thinner person so you can pay attention to the bones
what should I change in my angry ape?
![stock-photo-young-thin-hispanic-man-standing-shirtless-with-his-arms-crossed-93570997[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WCVSwcM.jpg "stock-photo-young-thin-hispanic-man-standing-shirtless-with-his-arms-crossed-93570997[1].jpg")
>>2276406
okay i found a hot young guy skinny, should i try and deconstruct it?
Trying out colored pencils and different shadings.
>>2276410
yup, its weird how that guy is crossing his arms, though, looks unnatural, this one is better
also trying to find out what values to use
>>2276413
should i attempt to deconstruct this one then instead?
>>2275848
I think its an improvement, try to see angles, compare sizes, remeasure, its not super easy to get it at first, go slow, take your time, dont compromise to anything, erase if necessary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM
>>2276417
yes
>>2276421
here sensei
>>2276426
are those circles the base of the hand? they are not at the right place
now study harder gakusei, take your time
I don't understand gestures please advise
>>2276429
why are you being nice to me. you cant have my blood, i need it. i have sycra, proko and jazza vids pulled up are they appropriate study material?
>>2276432
>why are you being nice to me.
because you're qt
>you cant have my blood, i need it. i have sycra, proko and jazza vids pulled up are they appropriate study material?
yes, considering you are a beginner, especially Proko
>>2276430
start with proportions
>>2276430
as few lines as possible. oversimply, then add details. think about the weight and motion of pose. ghost over the lines you intend to put and burn how your hand/cursor moved into your visual memory to better practice hand/eye coordination. be slow, work on line confidence (peter han exercises have done a lot for me there)
>>2276437
>because your a qt
:3
>>2276441
DON'T FLATTER YOURSELF, BACK TO WORK
>>2276444
o-okay
>>2276445
>>2276453
bones do not bend like that, dummy
criticize me please
>>2276454
her arms did though.
>>2276459
you need to work on line confidence, the final lineart looks like a sketch, and study a lot of anatomy, starting with the spine
>>2276460
ribcage is too big, you didn't even try to study her hand, the location of the shoulders are wrong, so is her neck placement, also the front part of the rib cage ends a lot higher than it is in your image
>>2276468
you cant dissuade me with harsh criticism im getting at least this done over the weekend.,ill try and fix it then. [spoiler[look at her face holy shit its spooky.
>>2275837
It's a really fun book, but it's not good to learn from, not at all.
>>2276481
now we're getting somewhere
the balls are too big though
do you like big balls?
>>2276486
>do you like big balls?
well i am a big guy.
should i use skellys in the future to aid my construction process? and shrink the balls got it.
>>2276494
yes, draw a thousand simplified skeletons
>>2276499
alright. i meant if its similar to what im trying to draw, use a picture of a skelton to help me with the boxes/lines/circles for constructing.
>>2276459
You have disgusting taste.
Tried drawing one of my friends. Any glaring problems, /ic/? I really want to start getting better, so be blunt.
>>2276499
>>2276537
its shit, ill redo it.
>>2276507
is it because she's
>a big girl
?
>>2276594
No it's because she has emaciated clavicles, bodybuilder abs with a narrow waist, fat legs thighs and cankles, Oh, and a seahorse neck.
I could forgive the rest if she had a good ol' honest to god juicy cock, but no.
0/10, my body actually diverted bloodflow from an already flacid and cold shrimpy little dick rather than let me considering even imagining having the thought of masturbating to it.
I started to study cities
Opinions?
[spoiler] I made this in 10 min, that's why it's a chicken scratch [/spoiler]
>>2276440
regarding peter han and other line exercises, is there a larger benefit to doing them on paper instead of digital?
>>2276632
some the horizontal lines are not going towards the horizon
>>2276632
It's tricky with one point, but it looks distorted, you're drawing too wide.
>>2276507
>>2276594
because i can draw them skinny too ;)
>>2276641
Christ, go outside and look at a human being, please.
>>2276620
appreciate the criticism but i wasnt trying to make fap material.
>>2276645
Really? Generally when people exagerate features like that it's because they have a fetish for fat thighs and big abs.
y-you weren't trying to draw a real person were you?
>>2276641
what's up with those pointy parts?
>>2276652
idk i was trying to exaggerate
>>2276653
bad
wrong
>>2276651
meh i just wanted to try drawing a big girl. no not a real person.
>>2276641
her hip is dislocated and that scares me
>>2275820
How do I into hatching and cross hatching?
Also why are frogs so kawai?
>>2276650
Looking good, anon. I like the eye in the corner.
>>2275848
I made it worse
Hey beginnerfriends, long time no see. Working on cleaning and refining this but feeling like I hit a roadblock.Help deeply appreciated
>>2276430
Most of these lack a sense of weight. The top right is closest, with the positioning and shape of the back foot. The rest aren't as good. i.e. both of them in the middle, the leg placement is awkward. Maybe I could stand like that irl but it would tire out my hip muscles really fast.
How I learned: charcoal, live model, 45 second poses. I'm not great but I improved a lot from that.
>>2276763
Your main problem is that the light source is not clearly defined.
>>2276517
As a beginner it's a good idea not to mix media in your work. Keep it simple so you can focus on drawing instead of the medium you are using. Use simple black charcoal. When you shade areas do not scribble. Draw all the lines in one direction instead of dragging back and forth. I'm not going to give very specific advice because at your level you just need to draw more.
>>2276763
Are the things on the side of his face (next to his eyes) supposed to be closer to axes or horns? Because they are very papery-flat
>>2276796
>>2276817
Altered to define light source, and yes they are, I added some light ridges to add some depth. not too sure how much this helped though
I never quiet understood gesture drawings.
>"Draw the motion"
>"Don't worry about the contour"
>Draws the contour
>>2276720
>can't see the obvious improvement
i feel sorry for you
>>2276833
Think of a person as a lump of clay. Imagine how you would kinda start with just lumps, gesture drawing is those lumps
>>2276330
The drawing of the face is good but the rendering is far too muddy, look through ctrl-paints rendering videos.
>>2276833
>tfw I had this same problem once upon a time
Are you me from the past? Because this is exactly the same problem I had with gestures, anon.
Study I'm working on. Few things left to touch up with the eyes, mouth and hair, but I'll get to those tomorrow. Mouth is really bothering me now actually, I think I fucked up the bottom lip. I keep going into these 'quick' portraits that end up taking entire days. I want to try rendering it, but I sort of wonder if it would be more efficient practice to just crank out sketches. I might just hatch and leave it at that.
Just a doodle. First time really messing with shading. Still can't draw limbs...or this guys brain. Feel free to critique, but I can't really draw much else other than cartoons.
Meh, just some shitty emotion-art
I can't into shading either
So is there a gesture drawing equivalent to faces or expressions?
>>2276895
Sticky
Is there anything in particular I should be working on? Nobody has ever given me any helpful feedback
>>2276893
i like it, gj anon
>>2276919
Are you sure, anon? Are you really sure? You haven't heard the words construction and symbol drawing once in your life?
>>2276941
Thanks anon!
I don't even know where to go with this
>>2276919
Is it a quick sketch? If so the shading in the face is the 'best' part. The worst is the construction (and the hair is shit).
First thing you need to study is the contruction of the head/face. I think you already did this a bit but you have to keep on on the basics.
quick question, what is symbol drawing? i see the term often in crit here
>>2276893
what bothers me is the over simplification of the man's hair
>>2277026
read the sticky
How can I improve my heads?
>>2276803
Thanks, anon. I'll do that.
After too many mistakes I gave up. I'm trying to use only pen and markers to make myself think more before placing lines but I guess I'm not thinking enough.
>>2276919
Work on expression. She's smiling but it looks forced, the different parts of the face move together. Like eyes, nose, cheeks and eyebrows would move up with the mouth.
You've gotten pretty good at rendering in black and white you might want to try to add color or make a new piece with color,
>>2277055
Draw the entire head to start. Draw several different kinds of heads. Draw caricatures of people.
I tried drawing for the first time without reference, the point of this one was to try and get the proportions right, which I think ended up being okayish, but I also wanted to somehow express the action, which I don't think I got quite right... I would really appreciate any kind of critique, thanks.
And on my defense regarding the clothing, I didn't study that yet. (I don't really know why I drew it in the first place)
>>2276720
You literally made it better.
>>2277032
Yeah, I probably should spend some more time on that.
>>2277069
Anon, this is really fuckin' good.
What exactly are you upset about in this image? The proportions?
>>2275908
Nice tumors
>>2276907
The sticky doesn't even go into any detail about what makes a gesture drawing. And anyway I was looking for drawing exercises that bring out emotions like gestures bring out movement, not face resources.
>>2277128
>The sticky doesn't even go into any detail about what makes a gesture drawing
The books in it do, fuckboy. Loomis' Figure Drawing has "flow" and "sweep" and rhythm, and I'm pretty sure vilppu, the king of FEEEL IT is in the sticky too.
>>2276632
perspective is fucked
>>2275821
so much time spent practising and cant even draw a pepe right
>>2275850
I know where you're coming from. I thought for months that I would never be able to draw unless I could create perfectly straight lines and circles.
I also tried drawing heads facing straight ahead for ages trying to get proportions perfectly even between sides and never getting it right because my visual imagination and general skill level was shit.
It turns out it's not really that important in the long run and you'll pick up control and precision while practising other stuff. Don't get too obsessive about it.
Anyway, I'm in the wrong board.
>>2277124
I noticed while drawing it that I was off on the proportions in a couple of major areas. If anything, it helped me look at parts in relation to others more than I usually do.
>>2277134
Dude you are working digital. There are so many helpful tricks to get the proportions and stuff right. You can zoom out both the picture and canvas and note down the shapes much eaiser. Keeping them blocky and refining them later. Nothing is permanent in digital. Use layers, use everything.
Critic me pls.
No access to a darker pencil at the moment.
I am thinking I should add more contrast.
But did I get the proportions right?
>>2277139
You should try blocking it in first with a light marker, then draw over with pen. Basically, circle the head, and circle the body. Make sure these circles match the head and rib cage. Then square out the head as block as possible.
I dunno, hope that info works. Sorry if you already knew this.
>>2277142
Little brother's 7.5/10 qt 7th grade teacher.
Lack of contrast blamed on shitty pencil, didn't want to damage the paper. I should buy a darker one soon.
>>2276404
Thanks for this.
>>2276944
Well no not really, this is the first time I've showed anything to someone besides friends who know nothing about drawing
>>2277142
Hello, yes you should add more contrast. A lot more. Looking at the ref your hair is one of the darker elements, and in your drawing its about the same tone as everything else. Pay attention to all the little tones and shades that appear in on your face. There's not nearly enough definition there. As for pencils go, you're going to want to buy more than just one shade darker. You should buy a pack of different shades, you never know which one you're going to need. But all in all, good start, practice more and study how light hits the face and the different shapes it leaves on the surface.
>>2276537
i decided to try and make a more interesting pose.
>>2275850
Hey man, I remember in the other thread you said you were going to pick up some felt-tip pens, here you're using ballpoint still.
Those superimposed lines exercises are specifically for felt-tip pens. In addition to helping you draw in a straight line, they're meant to help you learn how to hold a felt-tip properly.
If you want to continue using ballpoint (or even pencil) you would be better off just drawing parallel straight lines rather than trying to superimpose them. Check out pages 14 & 15 of How to Draw by Scott Robertson (you can browse for free on Amazon).
Pic related is a good example of the superimposed lines exercise using felt-tip pen. You can see there's quite a big difference. Slow down a bit and try to make sure you're drawing lines of the same length every time.
>>2277085
The only reason they add some contours is for a little detail and when they have a little time left. Just focus on the FEEL of the pose and worry about contour if you have extra time.
Uh I have trouble with the lower leg and the lower arm (along with a list of other things). Can anyone help with the lower limbs?
>>2277410
>>2277422
Nice dubs anon, but how do I draw them at different angles? That always fucks me up.
>>2277433
I got this too
legs and arms are pretty easy, hands and feet are a lot harder
>>2277433
Learn the underlying forms and how they relate to one another in 3D space, then you'll be able to draw them from any angle.
>>2277445
So the shin is like a tapering cylinder with another cylinder attached to it? Or is it more flattened in the back? Something like that?
>>2277447
I hope you're aware you have shins yourself.
You can look at it from all the different angles and see how you can make it more abstract.
>>2275901
He's not trying to batter you for the sake of battery, but push you, because your drawing has far too many anime-elements to be taken seriously.
>>2276401
All the lines are so... clean
>>2277410
Just do what I do and draw amputees exclusively
i cant fucking do it guys. i just cant wrap my head around anatomy. just fucking kill me now.
>>2277486
why's the sword coming out of his wrist
>>2277486
Just try drawing heads for now, I think you're going ahead of yourself when you don't really understand the method Loomis teaches yet. Rome wasn't built in a day, you'll get there. Drawing well takes years
>>2277514
i dont have years and ive been on heads for a month. i just want to produce one thing. all i got is practice sheets
>>2277517
Well it does take a while to git gud, why draw then if you dont want to do it for awhile? I dont think you really understand the dimensions of the way Loomis draws. If you're tired of drawing heads then look at something real and try to draw from that, and color/shade it the way it looks if you really want to produce something.
Just another 1 hour study.
Warm up sketch.
I'll be here for a while. I want to do some sketches for practice. Suggestions?
>>2277552
w-which one is the reference?
>>2277552
a-anon th-this is the beginner thread....
>>2277530
well this is what i did today..
Any comments on why the lighting doesnt look better?
>>2275820
dont know whats up with the back leg and i dont know much about texturing so im done i guess. I tried. Havent done anything in months, feels good to have something to look at besides a blank paper. thanks for the pick me up little frog. maybe i can get back into it.
you're all wonderful human beings
>>2277604
It's not bad. It would look better if you made the light go around things, kinda like it does in real life. Shadows would also help. Because the lines are really thick, can't really tell if you have shadows or not.
>>2277597
When you draw the line on the head from the circle down to the chin, the one that curves, try to think of it as defining the front plane of the chin and the face. It looks like you're placing it without understanding what it does and what purpose it has. I would recommend focusing on using references and seeing how it comes into play.
>>2277604
Your line work is really thick, as the other anon said, and that kind of ruins the look a bit. And the lighting is wrong because youre just using literally two colors. Look around you, do you see anything that has just two colors? Try to learn color theory and study shading. You have to think about the objects you're drawing as three dimensional, not like flat pieces of cardboard. Did you use a reference for this? If not, i'd suggest studying a skull. The bottom jaw is not that square.
>>2277604
I'd recommend starting by working in values (namely just black and white) and not using as many solid black lines.
If you do really insist on having distinctly visible linework, look into line weight. You'll have thinner lines in areas of light and thicker lines in areas of shadow.
I'm still doing stuff
>>2277637
try harder.
Really though, not even trying to be an asshole, ditch cartoons until you've got some fundamentals. You're not going to do yourself any favors. Your pic looks to me like "I'm still doing the minimum amount of effort required to say I'm doing stuff."
>>2277552
That looks pretty nice. I never really considered how significantly adding reflected light makes a difference.
>>2277597
You're placing the features of the face onto the wrong parts of the face. Compare your face shape to an actually face. What features falls on those lines? You're drawing these vertical and horizontal lines, but you don't use them because you don't understand what they mean.
>>2277657
>>2277640
Effort?
>>2277552
The shadow is a bit too long anon
>>2277727
nice chickenscratch
First stab at constructing heads with Loomis. Dunno why I waited so long to actually learn this shit.
>>2277748
Keep reading dat Loomis baby
I recently got back from vacation with food poisoning and shit. I missed a day of practice due to travel and pain. I've been practicing all day today and my lines aren't going where I want, plus my hand feels stiff and shaky. Should I take a rest? How do I ease my shakiness and weakness?
>>2277754
May as well just take the day off. I'm having the same problem more or less. Got the whole day to practice and nothing wants to work right. It's incredibly frustrating.
Well /ic/, I might be taking a permanent art break to become a translator. Last time I did this, it only lasted 4 months: January to May. Its surprising how much I learned about form, and loomis, and what not in just 3 months, really, I went from KTD level to actually knowing what construction is and how it applies to the figure.You can choose not to believe me or not, since im not posting work. And the funny thing is, I just started posting drawings from imagination, and was about to build my portfolio, the goal I wanted to do my whole life. But idk ,its only been a week without drawing, im gonna miss you guys. ;__; I really like learning japanese, but, drawing is what made me a less useless and more interesting human being. I really liked talking about drawing, but now, my desire to draw, is gone. I dont know if it really will comeback again. But, if im going to become a translator, and get a job, I have to git gud japanese yo.
pic unrelated
>>2277829
Feel. I started learning Japanese In 2010 on and off. I could have been fcking fluent by now and have access to all them sweet jap tutorials I'm such a retard. I'm getting back into it though once and for all.
It's kinda of funny how to git gud. I remember complaining here in /ic/ about construction, proportions, etc, I just couldn't get it even hours of drawing. So I just did Vilppu's method of figure drawing for an hour a day. 3 months later, those issues are now slowly fading away. I guess you just have to draw.
Is there any actual benefit to doing this kind of early exercise in Loomis?
I don't really want to draw cartoons, and I suck at these anyway.
Should I put in the effort required to draw these well, or move on to more realistic head-drawing, which I actually have some motivation for?
>>2277874
Do realistic.
Fun with a Pencil will give you some insight on what to expect, but out of all the Loomis books, it's okay to skip that one.
>Stopped drawing for about 2 weeks after getting upset with the outcome of a big piece
>Come back, values are all wonky, getting back into the swing of things is a harder transition than usual
Is there any solution for this other than to keep drawing daily again?
Or any form of prevention for the future?
>>2276878
those lines are fucking messy
studied the frog as well because im feeling unmotivated but i dont want to spend precious time just feeling shitty
Drawing has become depressing..
What went wrong?
>>2277916
Pencil drawing: my values and I got lazy at the end
>>2277916
>Nothing
Why do you say that? They don't look like the references and seem off to me. Then again I did draw them.
>>2277922
Other than the obvious "keep practicing", try to improve your line control/quality.
>>2277914
there's nothing major wrong overall. I could point out details with a few, but the closest to a consistent issue deals with your foot-to-ankle transition, it seems like on some you're thinking of it as a hinged joint, rotating around either the front, or the rear, instead of as the complex joint it really is. Also, the arch doesn't go all the way across, or so far back, see your lower corner's two arches. And stop drawing the heel as a gigantic sphere with a long toe mess hanging off it.
>>2277589
Needs a lot work. I get its just a sketch, but the head and face are really messed up. So is the whole neck/trapezius region. I think you just need to draw more, get some miles under your belt. Draw from life, or do a life drawing class, because I don't think you really understand how people look when you're drawing from imagination. Maybe you're going for a style, but you're hitting technical limitations from lack of experience. That's what's probably keeping you from achieving the look you want. Just work harder, I guess. Keep in mind your fundamentals, and try again.
>>2277926
I'm sorry anon, I was having a bad day and suffering from massive art block.
>>2276893
I think cutting his hair off makes it look creepier.
>>2277996
don't pay attention to the way too spotty airbrushing.
>spend two hours drawing the frog, measuring and redrawing, constantly trying to fix proportions and get shapes and angles right
>finally done my sketch
>take the picture and put it on transparent to see how I did
>the whole body is skewed out of proportion
>delete
All I've gained is a sore wrist and a mild sense of despair.
Maybe tomorrow things I do won't be awful.
