Who was this faggot? Why do I keep seeing people talk about him on /his/? What did he do?
He made Europe a more Godly, peaceful, and prosperous nation. Bless you, Martin Luther.
he's the original shitposter
he just wanted to marry a nun and fuck her
he's the guy that threw the money changers out of the church I think
>>1108202
>Europe
>nation
>>1108189
The world's first famous, influential autist.
He's like that one guy who starts a thread because he wanna innocently enough straighten some part of the coverage of the Balkan war out a bit and then how to see who the whole thread collapses into Balkan shitposting.
He was the first protestant, and essentially created the protestant church
>>1108189
Rid Germany of the satanic Papist yoke, starting a process which would culminate in its unification and the glorious third Reich, until the Anglo-Judeo-Masonic, Bolchevik and Catholic demons joined forces to destroy Germany.
He's Martin Luther, started the whole protestant thing and that spiraled into the whole reformation
Lotta wars and deaths so /his/ claims he's a savage bastard who caused war.
/pol/ parrots because they apparently are catholic???
>>1108221
He was a monk who didn't like that the catholic church was taking money for cheap salvation, wrote about it and posted it up. Not uncommon for the time but the difference with him is people actually started following it. Thus the protestant reformation and hundreds of years of war was ignited. Massive casualties ensued, but it's mostly peaceful now. He also hated the Jews. Before him all Christendom in Europe was mostly Catholic or eastern orthodox. Now there are hundreds of denominations.
>>1108204
Basically this.
>95 theses
>>1108236
The King of England created the Anglican church around the same time so he could divorce his wife. Some might call him protestant as well, though Martin Luther sparked the massive spread on continental Europe.
>>1108189
Fooled millions onto the path of damnation. He is naught but a tempter and betrayer and those that follow him are certainly bound for hellfire and suffering eternal.
>>1108321
>implying
>>1108189
He freed all the black people I think.
>>1108336
Not him but:
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4RFoknrwc
>"If your papist annoys you with that word (i.e. alone), tell him straightaway: Doctor Martin Luther will have it so: Papists and asses are one and the same thing. Whoever will not have my translation, let him give it the go-by: the devil's thanks to him who censures it without my will and knowledge. LUTHER WILL HAVE IT SO, AND HE IS A DOCTOR ABOVE ALL THE DOCTORS IN POPEDOM."
Amicable Discussions, I, 127, ‘The Facts About Luther’, O’Hare, Tan Books (1987), p201
>>1108436
[Roman gurgling intensifies]
>>1108459
[heresy intensifies]
>>1108627
>literally an accuser
>>1108700
[heresy intensifies]
>>1108709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxkrFgb0CI
>>1108720
>9mins in
>le rock is jesus xD
Trashed
He's the most famous sufferer of Autism after Issac Newton but his was arguably more severe
>>1108743
He looks like fucking chris-chan
>>1108724
Works are the inevitable consequence of faith.
>>1108732
Isaiah 26:4
>Jesus
>not the LORD God
>Romans
>reading the Bible
>>1108793
Faith without works is dead.
>Isaiah
I thought he was refering to Matthew.
>proddies
>biblically illiterate
pick two
>>1108809
Faith without works isn't faith and he calls Jesus the "Rock of Ages" which is a literal translation of צוּר עוֹלָמִים from Isaiah.
>>1108817
I think we can all agree that Jesus is the Son of God.
>>1108793
NOW THIS IS A STORY ALL ABOUT HOW
EUROPE GOT FLIP TURNED UPSIDE DOWN
AND I'D LIKE TO POST MY THESIS, JUST SIT RIGHT THERE
I'LL TELL YOU HOW WE CAN GET TO HEAVEN THOUGH FAITH AND PRAYER
IN EASTERN SAXONY BORN AND RAISED
IN THE MONASTERY IS WHERE I SPENT MOST OF MY DAYS
CHILLIN OUT MAXIN, RELAXIN ALL COOL AND WRITING BIBLICAL COMMENTARY OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL
WHEN A COUPLE OF PREISTS WHO WERE UP TO NO GOOD, STARTED OFFENDING GOD N' JESUS ALL THEY COULD
I POSTED 95 LITTLE COMPLAINTS AND THE POPE HAD ME BANNED
SO I SAID "Do what you like but here I stand"
>>1108841
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4RFoknrwc
>>1108856
>>1108720
>>1108863
>>1108724
>For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
2 Peter 2:20-22
>>1108883
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
- 1 Tm 1:15
>>1108845
I whistled for a ship and when it came near
The flag said Hanse and it had gold in the deck
If anything I could say that this ship was rare
But I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, Sven to Lübeck'
I pulled up to the monastery about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the scandi 'Yo home smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Reformation start-er.
>>1108889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4RFoknrwc
>>1108910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSC4WzS32VY
A guy who showed us why a religious organization should not run an organized religion.
>>1108917
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
>>1108954
>>Taking advantage of a horrible event in the real world in order to justify your nonsensical fear mongering.
Fuck you cultist. Take your non-logic elsewhere.
>>1108922
Fuck organized religion. I don't need a fucking guru to tell me how to spiritually relate to everything. It's everyones private business and everyone who is trying to teach you about it is a fraud. Catholicism is literally cancer.
>>1108954
http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-32.htm
http://biblehub.com/acts/16-31.htm
http://biblehub.com/romans/10-9.htm
>>1108959
>sodomites burning
>horrible event
wew lad
>>1108959
Hell is real anon.
>>1108976
No it isn't and it's high past time you and your ilk stopped using this board as your own personal preaching station or whatever the fuck you think it is. Discussion of religions does not = "all kooky cultists are allowed to come here and preach their nonsense".
>>1108981
I've seen it anon.
>>1108984
I doubt it.
>>1108988
It's true.
>>1108972
Faith without works is dead.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
See:
>>1093063
>>1093097
>>1093138
>>1109000
Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.
- 2 Cor 4:16
>>1109006
Basically the Christian equivalent of shitposting with an image macro in response. Regardless, fuck yourself.
>>1109008
Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
- 2 Tm 4:2
>>1109000
>All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:23
>Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
Ecclesiastes 7:20
>>1109000
I know man, I know, but still this is getting stupid now. Discussion of religion and the liberal arts was not meant to be some clarion call for all the stupid fuckers to come here and shit the place up.
>>1109006
>>1109010
You aren't welcome here, fuckwad. Get that through your thick fucking skull.
>no one posting the hottest new anti-papist toy
>>1108984
Yeaaahhhhh no.
You haven't, because the place doesn't exist and is just something that was built upon preexisting greek and hebrew concepts of the afterlife such as they were.
You know that "satan" character you talk so much about? Means something very different to the jews.
>>1109021
>You aren't welcome here
Not him but we're here to stay.
>>1109028
Don't be so sure of that, enough complaints to the mods and there will be new rules regarding preaching on this board, if and when that happens, you and your pals are gone.
>>1109034
I don't think so, friendo.
>All these salty catlickers
He was a friar who took a vow of chastity yet lusted a lot and felt bad, so finally he decided the Church is wrong saying sin is bad, and he quite and married a nun and started a new version of Christianity that says don't feel guilty or contrite, and if anyone says otherwise, they're a Babylonian ho.
>>1109163
>Straw man: The post
Take your trip off and post feet
>>1109015
does this mean everyone got that 666?
or are only the real evil people like vampires the 666 animals
>>1109891
Well any given discussion of christianity almost inevitably turns into the resident preachers coming in here to try and convert people by posting bible quotes or whatever.
If you're referring to the image, it was apparently taken at a fire that broke out at a gay club somewhere and now these silly bastards are using it in their stupid crusade to try and scare people into being good little christards.
>>1109900
>If you're referring to the image, it was apparently taken at a fire that broke out at a gay club somewhere and now these silly bastards are using it in their stupid crusade to try and scare people into being good little christards.
Jesus Christ, that's disgusting.
>>1109912
Yep, and when you call them out on that sort of vile behavior you either get bible quotes or real knee slappers like "hell is real" or other such unsupportable claims. You can pretty much blame these idiotic zealots for why we can't actually discuss any sort of religious topic on here. Hopefully the mod starts banning them but I won't hold my breath. I'm a /tg/ oldfag and I know just how long a 4chan subboard can go unmodded for.
>>1109022
>>1109927
4chan is a christian board now. deal with it.
>>1108214
This. Blue balled Catholic friar who wanted to bust a nut.
>>1108732
Deut. 32:4, "The Rock! His work is perfect, for all His ways are just; a God of faithfulness and without injustice."
2 Sam. 22:2-3, "The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; 3 My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge."
Psalm 18:31, "And who is a rock, except our God."
Isaiah 44:8, "Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none."
Rom. 9:33, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and he who believes in Him will not be disappointed."
>>1111398
4chan is a furry board
>>1108809
>Faith without works is dead.
Faith in Buddha is dead and has no works of the Spirit flowing from it.
Faith in Krishna is dead and has no works of the Spirit flowing from it.
Faith in Ghandi is dead and has no works of the Spirit flowing from it.
Faith in Zoroaster is dead and has no works of the Spirit flowing from it.
Faith in the risen Jesus Christ is life changing and has works of the Spirit flowing from it.
>>1111398
No, 4chan just has a vocal minority of faggots.
>>1109872
Anyone who takes the mark of the beast in the future goes to hell. Anyone who does not is likely to be instantly killed, and at the very least must live off the grid.
>>1111398
Yup. History is His Story. He's running the show. He's calling the shots. And He's getting close to end game.
>>1111421
First /pol/, now /His/.
Semper Gumby. Always flexible.
>>1111419
>Faith in Buddha
>Faith in Ghandi
wot?
>>1111437
Nah, if anything /his/ is less Christian now than it was at its outset, since /pol/ has been largely pushed away. We just have a couple of extremely vocal and prolific shitposters.
>>1111445
A man says to James "I have faith."
James says "Show me your works, so that I can see your faith."
Faith with James isn't the same as Faith with Paul; Paul always talks about Faith in the context of the risen Christ Jesus, and James is a Judaizer, wanting people to follow the Law of Moses.
James is the ignorant hick half-brother of Jesus who never believed in Jesus until after the resurrection.
Paul is the greatest apostle alive.
Anyone who relies on James over Paul has no idea what the New Covenant is.
>>1111445
I'd say faith in Buddha is less faith in the person and more faith that his teachings can lead you towards enlightenment and the eventual escape of samsara.
>>1111450
The flat earthers are better at stirring shit up than the creationists are any way.
>>1111450
Oh, I quite disagree. As do all of the christians taking over this board.
History is God's story to tell, not yours.
>>1111461
Yes, and it will never produce the fruits of the Spirit of God. It produces other things.
>>1111462
You are not sure if there is a God, but you know the world is essentially an oblate spheroid.
So you just refuted yourself.
>>1111468
Yes, I'm sure the local shitposters would disagree with that statement. But the fact is you're taking over precisely jack and shit. Ruining a few threads doesn't constitute taking over, it just constitutes giving people good grounds to whine hard enough to the mods to change the rules to start banning.
>>1111461
Still dumb to talk about "faith in Budha" while talking about faith in Krishna or Zoroazter ((Maybe even faith in Zoroazter is dumb while talking about faith in Krishna))
Like talking about faith in Kant or Nietzhe.
>>1111482
I hear more whining about how boring Roman threads are without us, actually.
>Gee, who's your favorite emperor, and would you sleep with him on the first date?
>>1111458
By contrast, many recent studies of the Greek word pistis have concluded that its primary and most common meaning was faithfulness, meaning firm commitment in an interpersonal relationship.[14][15][16][17] As such, the word could be almost synonymous with "obedience" when the people in the relationship held different status levels (e.g. a slave being faithful to his master). Far from being equivalent to "lack of human effort", the word seems to imply and require human effort. The interpretation of Paul's writings that we need to "faithfully" obey God's commands is quite different from one which sees him saying that we need to have "faith" that he will do everything for us. This is also argued to explain why James was adamant that "faith without works is dead" and that "a man is saved by works, and not by faith alone", while also saying that to merely believe places one on the same level as the demons (see James 2). The "new" perspective argues that James was concerned with those who were trying to reduce faith to an intellectual subscription without any intent to follow God or Jesus, and that Paul always intended "faith" to mean a full submission to God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Perspective_on_Paul
>>1111483
It's true, but do you expect our local Christposters to understand the nuances of religions that aren't their own?
>>1111483
You don't know what the buddha said. People wrote stuff down. You take it on faith that the sayings came from the buddha.
Faith is merely the human ability to believe the unseen. You believe gravity exists, though you can only see the effects, not gravity itself.
>>1111496
>You take it on faith that the sayings came from the buddha.
The fact they came from the Buddha is actually fairly irrelevant, as its the merit of the teachings themselves that matter.
>>1111496
What the fuck are you on about?
And I am pretty sure the effect itself is called gravity, we are just not sure what causes it.
>>1111487
James was adamant about following the Law of Moses because he was a Judaizer. He was making Jews, not Christians. The Jews had no trouble with James teaching in their temple; when Paul tried, they tried to kill him.
If you listened to James, you would be baptized (a Jewish tradition to erase the past, and become a Jew), get circumcised, and dedicate your life to following the Laws of Moses.
If that's all you did, you would die and go to hell with the Jews.
>>1111508
And yet you have no problems ascribing them to the buddha, while you did not see him speak.
Because faith is not a religious word; it's a human ability. You can believe things you do not see.
As to the merits of buddhism, they are temporary, fleeting, and merely another way to walk down the road that leads to destruction.
>>1111510
Modern thought is that gluons cause gravitational effects. Or the Higgs boson, or some other boson.
Nobody knows. But you know by faith that if you throw a ball into the air, it will come back down, and you ascribe that action to gravity.
>>1111512
So why do you accept James as Scripture
>>1111518
I'm not disputing the word faith, you fucking imbecile. I'm disputing that it's faith in the Buddha that's relevant here. I already explained what they have faith in (that the teachings will deliver what was offered).
Goddamn, 4chan gets some stupid fuckers here.
>As to the merits of buddhism, they are temporary, fleeting, and merely another way to walk down the road that leads to destruction.
Shut the fuck up.
>>1111520
>But you know by faith that if you throw a ball into the air, it will come back down,
Eh, I may be wrong here, but I think it really isn't called faith then. Then it's called emperial, as you know it will fall down from earlier experiences. And even if it is faith it isn't really comparable to other sorts of faith, like faith in the bible or anything.
>>1111526
One reason only. I can reconcile James in one case:
John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Faith in anything without that "work" is indeed dead, and that "work" is "belief in the risen Christ Jesus".
>>1111527
I see that wonderful even temperament of the Buddhist master here at work.
>>1109927
There are plenty of mods here. I've reported stuff that broke the written rules here, and they got taken down quick.
Face it m8. I don't really think they care if Christians preach here.
>>1111532
Except the very definition of "Faith" is actually one akin to obedience and "faithfulness". That entails the inclusion of human effort.
Too bad mother fucker
>>1111531
Your logic would be "because the ball has always come down, the next time it will also come down."
But that is a faith based statement basically saying that things in the future, which you cannot see, will be identical or substantially identical to your past experiences.
>>1111537
I'm not a fucking Buddhist, you bloody cretin.
>>1111541
I never said it did not.
However, the faith that you have was not generated by you; it was a gift from God.
The key to eternal life is not having faith; everyone has faith in different measure. The key is the object to which you attach your faith. Attach it to the Buddha, end up where the Buddha is, in hellfire. Attach it to the risen Christ Jesus, end up in heaven with the Father.
You end up where the person you follow ended up.
>>1111542
You can't use Hume to justify your idiocy when he already blew it the fuck out.
>>1111546
That must be a koan; surely a Buddhist apologist of your caliber would not resort to such denials.
>>1111551
Never read Hume, sorry.
>>1111550
That makes James' statement redundant and entails human beings being puppets mind controlled by God without free will.
That is not a loving God. That is a sick twisted egomaniac who deceives human beings!
>>1111558
You should, you might learn something.
>>1111550
Another thing is that effort is pointless under such a framework.
For humans are nothing more than puppets.
FUCK OFF SHITFACE
>>1111550
>Attach it to the risen Christ Jesus, end up in heaven with the Father.
>calling the master of the heavens and earth your father
Why
>In the 1530s and 1540s, printed images of Luther that emphasized his monumental size were crucial to the spread of Protestantism. In contrast to images of frail Catholic saints, Luther was presented as a stout man with a "double chin, strong mouth, piercing deep-set eyes, fleshy face, and squat neck." He was shown to be physically imposing, an equal in stature to the secular German princes with whom he would join forces to spread Lutheranism. His large body also let the viewer know that he did not shun earthly pleasures like drinking—behavior that was a stark contrast to the ascetic life of the medieval religious orders.
>>1111581
So he become famous because people wanted double chins and to get drunk
>>1111559
Probably why Catholics and satanists love James.
>>1111561
Pass.
When you're in love with the truth, philosophy is mental masturbation.
>>1111564
Correct. Your effort to save yourself is futile.
Welcome to Christianity, where Jesus takes care of literally everything!
>>1111577
Never wanted to crawl up into your daddy's lap and have Him put His arm around you?
>>1111653
So it's like wordlh nihilism?
>>1111653
Where God who is supposedly loving had to deceive us by giving us the illusion of control when we have none!
Where's 11111111 get?
>>1111671
>>>11111111
>>1111675
Why was it deleted?
>>1111663
Nope. There's no way to save yourself. And if you do not get saved, there's an eternal torment waiting for you.
If you consent to having Jesus save you, He takes care of everything.
He just will not force you to be saved; He will not force you to believe.
>>1111665
You control your own destiny by His hand; where you tell Him to put you, He will put you.
>>1111606
The dude liked good beer, so i share a thing with him.
Sidenote for hilarity:
http://ergofabulous.org/luther/
Come get insulted
>>1111689
He won't really warn me though, at least not directly. Especially not if I lived in America or Australia before the Europeans arrived.
/his/, why do people actually like Luther?
>>1111693
That entails that I have control and implies effort!
It also contradicts the part where faith is from god and not of the individual's own volition.
Puppet scum
>>1111702
Yeah, I've used that before.
You need to get with the times, you arsonist, enemy of language and truth.
>>1111737
Just as the devil is disorderly and jumbles things together, so your writings and head are equally disordered and mixed up, so that it is exceedingly annoying to read and difficult to remember what you write.
>>1111716
Christians like him, pagans don't
>>1111706
His statement makes no sense. He believes that God gives the individual "faith".
But for there to be faith, there must be trust and it implies that the person must trust what he gets from Scripture or the message of God. If he trusts it, he does so in faith and obedience to it but this means that God made him do it. If he rejects it, its his own free will.
This means God mind controls persons to have faith! Those who don't have it are planned by God to be damned.
>>1111738
You are indeed cheated and deceived by falsehood, and that is what all like you deserve.
>>1111745
desu, neo-Calvinism is the end-point of protestantism, if you ask me.
Atleast Calvin didn't make any excuses.
"Look, i know it's kinda screwed up, and i don't like it myself, but that's the result from analysing the book"
>>1111749
May God punish you, I say, you shameless, barefaced liar, devil's mouthpiece, who dares to spit out, before God, before all the angels, before the dear sun, before all the world, your devil's filth.
>>1111431
Couldn't said it better.
>>1111753
I agree with this.
It makes their god the every antithesis of one who is loving and merciful.
>>1111759
You cowardly slave, you corrupt sycophant, with your sickening advice!
>>1111742
>following Martin Luther
>a man who wasn't with Christ
Nice joke.
>>1111706
You presume much. And you have discounted the warning you have already received.
You stand before God without excuse.
>>1111780
God told me that you suck in such a way that I can be absolutely certain
>>1111716
The Catholics like to vilify him as their boogeyman; by calling Christians "Protestants", they keep "the Eternal City of Rome" at the center of human commerce. In other words, even their opponents are designated in relation to them, and not independently.
The Vatican is a foul nest of evil spirits.
>>1111780
And how can you stand before God, knowing you worshiped a man your whole life?
>>1111725
If you can't be arsed to ask to be saved, don't. That's your right too.
>>1111778
You are a coarse devil who hurts me but little.
>>1111789
>shilling for actually killing unity
You are no better than the whores that want to ruin Europe.
>>1111745
Nope. You could not trust anything if you were not given the human ability "faith", anymore than you could see color not given the human ability "sight".
As everyone is told by God that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God; as the heavens declare His glory; as the earth reveals His handiwork; man stands without excuse before God in Unbelief.
And Unbelief is what gets people cast into hellfire forever.
>>1111789
>Implying non-catholic ancient churches haven't condemned you as well;
>>1111792
I will stand before God, and see my Savior, my Redeemer, my brother and my friend, Christ Jesus.
>>1111800
>Implying Europe can or should be salvaged.
>>1111813
There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, and there is no other condemnation that concerns me.
>>1111815
So now Jesus is your friend, brother, and God?
m8
>>1111798
Well, I guess that ends it.
>>1111780
I have kinda gotten warnings from other religions as well, especially Islam. Any reason for me to not listen to them?
>>1111795
Your point is that faith is from God.
This means me taking a leap of faith and trusting whatever interpretation of Scripture would be in fact God controlling me and not my own decision and consent. After all if it were then it isn't really from God but it is from me.
But this is in opposition to your position.
Thus your view entails God controlling everyone like puppets moron
>>1111817
It can't, because you got faggot protestants who have ruined it. Perverted it.
>>1111806
That's my point moron.
Since faith is from God, any act of me turning to him is in fact God controlling me, not my own or else it would no longer be from him.
Thus for your point to work, God must mind control everybody. Those who were told and believe do so because God made it so, not because of their own volition. If they do so, then their faith is of their own.
>>1111820
Yes.
And more. Much more.
>>1111842
Well, hate to rain on your parade, but Jesus was just a messenger from God. He was a slave of God, just like you and me.
>>1111842
Jesus told me you suck and will burn in hell forever
>>1111829
Yes. They directly contradict the bible in the divinity of Jesus.
So whom you believe between Christians and muslims rests on how you eventually see Jesus.
Jesus is God.
But not to the muslims. Jesus died, but the muslims say he did not. Jesus was crucified, but the muslims say it was a trick. Jesus rose from the dead, but muslims say no.
And they also say Mohammad cut the moon in half, and that marrying a 6 year old at age 54 was holy.
And everything they say about Jesus came 600 years after the fact, from an angel whispering to a madman.
Satan is an angel. Satan was that angel. Satan is Allah/Hubal/Ba'al. Not God. The devil himself.
Another absurd point of Protesturdism is Sola Scriptura.
If Scripture Alone is the highest authority on matters of faith, then on issues such as the existence of God or all the philosophical problems that must be solved by virtue of his existence, Scripture Alone gets the final say, not philosophical rationalization. But if this is so, the crime of Circular Reasoning is committed.
>>1111835
No, it comes from knowing that you are free to choose from among your available options, but you do not have the option to surprise God. God sees the end from the beginning; God know you would post that before He made the world. Change it, and He would have known that as well.
You will not be able to persuade God that your irresponsibility is His fault.
>>1111857
But the Muslims managed to win 1:10 battles against the Christians... Doesn't that kinda prove they had God on their side?
>>1111837
Nothing of value was lost.
>>1111841
Your eyes are from God too. Anything you look at is directed by you.
You have nothing that was not given you by God.
>>1111847
You can believe that, if you choose, and then you can pay the price for doing so.
>>1111848
This is still an 18+ board. Please come back when you reach the age of majority.
>>1111869
Yeah, though it don't really help a lot of Christians say other Christians aren't really Christians at all.
>>1111872
>Protestants
>christians
Orthodox and Catholicism is the only two branches.
>>1111878
you forgot Arianism and Gnosticism
>>1111863
It does not. Babylon conquered Jerusalem @ 596 BC.
>>1111880
I didn't.
>>1111869
Yup. Europe was built on history; America was built on ideas.
>>1111861
That entails that faith is not from God but from man's own volitional actions.
Your premise entails this is not the case.
It can only be either faith is of our own action or that it is of God acting upon the soul.
There is no other way or else it would be a contradiction.
>>1111866
So what?
If the human being cannot by its own volition have faith and faith comes from God, then it entails God treating everyone as puppets
>>1111888
Ideas that is killing itself.
>>1111870
Says the illogical Protesturd
>>1111894
I'm sorry your thinking is so unclear.
You can choose to be For Jesus, and there is only one way to do that. Romans 10:9-10 is that way.
Or you can choose to stay Against Jesus. And there are billions of ways to do that; some of which seem right to a man, but all of which end at death.
You will never understand how God works until you become transformed into Jesus' likeness in heaven.
>>1111896
Mankind has proven itself ungovernable.
>>1111898
6 years, in your case, I would imagine.
>>1111904
So that means we should throw out everything?
>>1111907
It means you should throw out the idea that men can govern themselves, yes.
>>1111910
That's horseshit, stop spewing horseshit.
>>1111903
Except of course to declare that is to have faith for it is on that basis that such is made.
But to you Faith is not of the human's own volition but of God.
Your God is an egomaniac who treats humans as puppets
>>1111912
Tell me why empires fall.
>>1108313
>Anglican Church
>Protestant
It was catholic, but it didn't follow the pope.
>>1111918
That's not God, that's your god. I wouldn't worship your god either.
>>1111910
Bless the Machine God, then!
>>1111925
That is your God, not mine.
>>1111928
So for all you cared it could just have been a normal musical festival catching fire?
This kills the non-calvinist prottie.
>>1111937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn1vC1Ez-OI
>>1111937
Free will?
>"If your papist annoys you with that word (i.e. alone), tell him straightaway: Doctor Martin Luther will have it so: Papists and asses are one and the same thing. Whoever will not have my translation, let him give it the go-by: the devil's thanks to him who censures it without my will and knowledge. LUTHER WILL HAVE IT SO, AND HE IS A DOCTOR ABOVE ALL THE DOCTORS IN POPEDOM."
Amicable Discussions, I, 127, ‘The Facts About Luther’, O’Hare, Tan Books (1987), p201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
>>1111427
I don't believe in hell in afterlife, not really.
But I think there might be a death for those who gets the 666
and those who didn't. The bible told us it would be like 144.000 on the whole planet earth
those would be saved. I did some mathematics and it would be like 0,00002% of the whole earths population
Christianity <3
Im a christian by myself, but I think this is a whole fucked up game. And I would like to know what god thougt about all this when this happened, because he always knows what will happen. I mean it seems to me like he doesn't care at all while he still loves us.
He just watches a dog getting screwed up by a chipper or whtever, and then he likes to revive him again
I really don't understand this whole stupid game, which it actually is, it is a game.
>>1112045
I want the fucking quotes of the bible right now on that number. Because that is an abstract ass number.
>>1112045
>. The bible told us it would be like 144.000 on the whole planet earth those would be saved.
That is the number of jews who will be saved, not the whole world.
If I am not mistaken 1/3 of the world will be saved.
>>1112053
where did you get that from that 1/3 will be saved?
For some reason I would think that 1/3 will rebell against god same like the angels did, and 2/3 will be ok.
But maybe I'm wrong, and only the 0,00002% will be saved
well, god did save only 8 people with noah after the great flood, and Jesus told that it would be the same szenario and only few would be saved
and if the szenario would be exact the same again that would mean in the world where noah did live, there was like 400.000 people on earth
if the scale is 1:0,00002
and god did kill all exept 8 people
>>1111398
>>4chan
>>christian
lol please stop being stupid.
>>1111539
Right, because preaching isn't specifically against the rules as written yet, which is why we need to petition to get the rules changed.
>>1111928
You are incredibly stupid if you think anything you have ever posted on here has done anything other then to show why christians are reprehensible assholes.
>>1111936
All he cares about is "spreading the good word" about how all the sexy stuff people enjoy will damn them to hell or whatever. He's a tedious bore and he could stand to acquire the services of a prostitute honestly.
>>1108189
dude he like made black people equal n shieet
>>1112170
>There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
John 12:48-49
>>1112194
>Therily, I say unto you that you are a tremendous homo faggot
Your Dirty Whore of a Mother 36:24:36:69
What part of: "bible quotes mean nothing to those who do not believe the bible to be the word of any sort of deity" don't you get? What is the major malfunction in your idiot brain that you think this is going to persuade anyone here about anything?
>>1112206
>All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
>>1112170
>>1112206
It's all they know man c'mon.
When you get drilled to recite this shit with a giant, hairy cock in your little boy mouth, you remember.
So let's get back to discussing how aids is gods plague upon only homosexual adults who have consenting sex with other homosexuals who are strictly also adults.
>>1112231
>homosexuals love being a bitch and deserve to die
easy as it is
>>1112238
Exactly! They -know- the consequences of what they're doing, but they do it anyways.
Where I come from, that means you deserve what you get.
>>1112212
You know something? I think you're actually developmentally disabled in some way at this point. Nobody with any sense in their head would continue to post said quotes after being specifically told why it isn't going to work.
>>1112231
lol true enough.
>>So let's get back to discussing how aids is gods plague upon only homosexual adults who have consenting sex with other homosexuals who are strictly also adults.
Traps are a better fetish then bearish men are and it is true that a lot of them at least look underage if the stuff on /d/ is any indication...
Still, I'm mostly interested in fucking women. I don't get these bible bangers and the fondness they have for the little boy anus.
>>1112254
>For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:18
>>1112238
>>1112253
The early christians knew what the consequences for defying rome were and they deserved what they got. Too bad that the romans weren't a bit more thorough about it though, we could have actual discussions of various topics on here without you faggots butting in.
>>1112263
Was this the passage the priest recited to you as he made you suck him off?
>>1112254
>>1112268
>And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
Romans 1:28-32
>>1111937
Is this really a question?
Jesus died on the cross for all sins of all mankind.
All sin is forgiven except for the unpardonable sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is
UNBELIEF.
It is the sin of UNBELIEF that causes people to suffer torment in hell, due to their intractable rebellion against God Himself.
>>1112275
This is both unconvincing to me as a non-religious person and also sounds vaguely like any tiresome old person rant that was ever said about the younger generations.
So, did the priest make you recite this one when you had to give him a handjob?
>>1112045
the 144,000 are 12,000 young Jewish male virgins saved after the Rapture to tell the earth that Jesus is the Messiah. They are protected through the 6 year Troubles of Jacob aka Daniel's 70th week aka the Tribulation.
If you can confess out loud that Jesus is Lord, believing in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you are a Christian.
If not, then not.
>>1112282
Well the problem you have here is that the only reliable source you have for any of this is your holy text. Said text is rather unconvincing to people who don't believe in it.
>>1112051
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
>>1112289
Yes, the only source is the Word of God Himself.
You let me know when that's no good.
kek
>>1112294
And the only way you know the bible is the word of god is because the bible itself says so! Nice example of circular logic faggotron.
>>1108189
Divided the followers of Christ and weakened European ethos.
>>1112284
>You do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.
James 4:14
>Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:13-14
>>1112290
You do know this was probably referring to Nero, right? And that the number should actually be 616 instead due to that being what his name translated to in hebrew numerology for some reason?
>>1112308
Lemme guess, he made you recite these passages as he was filling your rear passage.
>>1112324
Why are you homosexuals so shamelessly perverted? Why do you keep projecting your filthy behavior onto others?
>To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled.
Titus 1:15
>>1112346
Not a homosexual actually, I just know that the only thing that can inspire this sort of autism is a combination of hearing a given passage from the your religious text just as the priest's holy schlong rubs against your prostate in just the right manner.
>>1112282
but that means one could not be able to repent from it neither in this world, nor the next, but we have cases of militant unbelievers (re)converting, so it can't be that.
GO TEAM VENTURE!!!
He was a great man.
This entire thread is a good example of the futility of faith. If it weren't for being numbed by shit posting and reality television you'd all still be murdering each other over this shit.
No better than the Muslims desu
>>1112346
Not him but you are definitely misunderstanding the relevance of that verse in this context, unless you also mean to assert your own impurity.
The verse is encouraging you to seek purity by NOT judging or condemning the actions of others, and certainly is not advocating the use of such insulting language.
Not even Christian, just someone with an interest in ancient literature.
>>1112523
Stop with this "don't judge" meme please.
>For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.
Titus 1:10-16
>>1109022
Got it for my 80 year old Swedish grandfather, fucking loved it.
>>1112288
wait, I'm a christian and I KNOW that Jesus is the Messiah AND I'm a 22 year old virgin, am I one of thus Jews now?
>>1109927
/tg/ was far better off without mods. Once nazimod hit, the majority of interesting discussion was dropped and quest threads rushed in to fill the void.
Also, strange you'd like moderation since the arrival of mods on /tg/ coincided with a lot of anti-religious posts getting deleted and (probably) their posters banned.
He was the Trump of his time.
>>1113518
I stopped posting on /tg/ before nazimod showed up. That said, /tg/ never really had a problem with religious proselytization in the first place. It is true though that what we really need here is a rules clarification as to whether or not religious discussion includes preaching or not.
Jesus christ, this thread is the biggest fedora anal annihilation I have ever seen. Good job bibleposter. Back to R*ddit with the rest of you.
>mooooods help pls :( censor censor censor!
>>1112494
That speaks more to the human condition than anything. If it weren't religion, it'd be ideology. And when it's neither of those, it'd be over other little petty squabbles that get blown out of proportion.
Humans only cease killing each other when they're kept mostly placated, soon as that stops, they go right back to doing it.
>>1111857
>Satan is Allah
Except Allah is the Arabic word for God, also used by Arab Christians.
