Can you follow two religions? Maybe even two or five at once? What is maximum number that you could realistically combine to outplay Pascal's wage?
>>1081428
depends on the religions. you definitely couldn't do it with Abrahamic religions though. worshipping several gods being banned is pretty damn central to them
>>1081446
"It's just a metaphor bro"
"BRO STOP HITTING ME IT'S JUST A METAPHOR"
t. Christian YouTube prankster
>>1081446
>you definitely couldn't do it with Abrahamic religions
But they all worship the same god?
Seems like it would be easy to game the system between the three of them.
>>1081568
>But they all worship the same god?
Christians are still not sure Islam's Allah is the same as their God, despite the exhortations of certain ecumenical thinkers.
Meanwhile, Christians believe that Jesus fulfilled the Old Law, and therefore Judaism is a defunct religion.
>>1081428
asian religions are less dogmatic and book-based, so syncretizing them usually works well enough
zen for example is literally buddhism seen through a taoist lens
>>1081587
>Christians are still not sure Islam's Allah is the same as their God, despite the exhortations of certain ecumenical thinkers.
Well, the Christian god is the same as the Jewish god, and the Islamic god is supposed to be canonically the same as the Jewish god. They probably derived from different Canaanite and/or other deities, sure, but they're supposed to be all "the god of Abraham" and thus technically should be canonically the same.
>Meanwhile, Christians believe that Jesus fulfilled the Old Law, and therefore Judaism is a defunct religion.
Christians also believe that simply believing in and accepting Christ is enough to get into heaven (depending on denomination, of course, but generally that's the case) and simply honoring the covenant should be enough to be following Judaism, so a person who believes in Christ and keeps it kosher etc. could be considered part of either or both Judaism and Christianity.
>>1081662
How do you also get in Islam? Islam flat out rejects Jesus being God
>>1081669
Yeah, that one's the snag. However, you can always just create some schism and start your own sect of Islam which declares that you may consider Jesus to be God and the Trinity to be a thing, though that's kind of cheating since you can make a sect of anything with whatever rules you want as long as the most basic ones are similar enough to what other sects have that it can still be considered a part of the larger religious group.
>>1081428
Most historic religions were polytheist and ancient peoples probably regarded other cultures' pantheons as just as real as their own, just not worth worshiping except in the cases where they got appropriated into their own practices. One does wonder how they sorted out differing creation myths, but I'm not sure whether they even bothered asking each other about that kind of thing all the time.
>>1081669
Probably some pre-nicene creed sect of Christianity before someone decided that their version of Christianity was the better one and tried to unify it.
>>1081754
>Most historic religions were polytheist and ancient peoples probably regarded other cultures' pantheons as just as real as their own, just not worth worshiping except in the cases where they got appropriated into their own practices.
Including, it's interesting to note, proto-Judaism. Only later did they declare all gods but Yahweh to be false.
>>1081662
But the core belief of Christianity is that Jesus, the man, was literally God. A Jew would say that holding this belief is directly contradicting the first commandment.
>>1081587
Modern Judaism is simply "the Rabbinite heresy." It's the same religion, just grossly heretical.
>>1081910
care to elaborate a bit?
>>1081428
You don't even need to follow a religion to win Pascal's wager: let's say that my posting on a Hongkongese paint-drying forum has a non-zero probability (p) of leading me to believe in God, since the payoff associated with believing in God is infinity, my payoff is p*infinity=infinity. In fact, I can do anything and still be on the winning side of Pascal's wager--we're all gonna be okay.
>>1081446
Actually it says 'no other gods before me '
So not an outright ban.
So what religion branches from Muslim/islam if Buddhism comes from Hinduism and chistianity from judaeoism
>>1081428
I can't even follow one because of all the bullshit and faggotry that go with it.
>>1081428
Hermetisism and Sikhism both claim that the way of worship does not matter, but the fact that you worship, so you could combine both with another religion
The revelation of Quran confirms that Jews or christian or followers of other religion have favor of God according to the truth of their knowledge and understanding: ''Surely,those who believe,the Christians, and the converts; anyone who believes in God, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.[2:62]
>>1081428
You can't outplay Pascal's wager because there are an infinite number of possible gods
I'm banking on skeptic heaven personally
>>1081910
I mean, there are several kinds of Judaism. How can you call all of them heretical?
>all religions provide equally viable spiritual practices for reaching the One True Universal God
There
1.) Your pic is bullshit. For linguistic and historical reasons.
2.) Religion is an ambiguous term and often conflated with philosophical and spiritual belief. Some allow for exploration, others do not. Since religions can be created infinitely, then the answer is infinite.
>>1085147
Sufism Reoriented, Universal Sufism and the Druze.
>>1081446
Eh. Santaria, Voodoo, and arguably robust Saint-based Roman catholicism are all mixed religions. Even Protestantism takes on a bunch of pagan junk. Syncreticism is eternal.
Also, prior to eternal anglo attempts to divide and conquer the subcontinent, there were groups of people in Bengal, Punjab, etc. who idenitified as both Hindu and Muslim and incorporated the beliefs of both into their beliefs. That's not even getting into the modern Bahaii faith.
In short, the answer is of course yes because many people do and have done it. You should now delete this thread. If you don't, you have been proven a troll and no one should respond anymore.
>>1081428
Most are fairly exclusive, and many are mutually exclusive.
If you're trying to play Pascal's wager, it's lose-lose. There is no win. Just knowing there is a God is nothing; the devil does that.
>>1081446
>what is the trinity
baka desu senpai.
>>1081662
Jews don't think that Christians follow the same god as them but believe that Muslims do.
Christians think Jews are following the same God but think that Islam was started by a false prophet.
Muslims think that everyone is following the same god but their way of practicing is wrong.
>>1085147
>Satanist image
>Utilizes Christian symbols (St. Peter's cross and pentagram)
Fucking retards
>>1081662
Completely incorrect at all points.
>>1081824
Unless it's true.
>>1081428
>Implying Constantine knew anything about Hindu Devas
>Implying the Roman wouldn't use the Roman Dii Consentes and would instead use the Greek one
>Implying the guy who legalized Christianity as official Roman religion didn't do so because he made Sol, the Roman version of Helios, his patron deity and won some battles after he saw a Chi Rho in the sun and preportedly heard a voice saying "in hoc signo vinces" and as a syncretic sort thought this was the work of Sol through this "Christian" cult thing bumbling around among he plebeian dregs
Religion is just artificial symbolic dissemination of a higher idea. Live with love and peace and it really doesn't matter what religion you follow.
>>1085147
>inverted cross
>pentagram
>a sign of perfect fidelity and humilty before Christ
>a sign of the 5 Holy Wounds of Christ
>LOL IM A DEBIL WERSHUPPER!
>>1081662
>They probably derived from different Canaanite and/or other deities
Both of them directly inherited it from the Jewish YHWH, way after everything was settled.
>>1087481
>You dick has a moral capacity!?
I can be certain, at one point, 2 philosophers debated this thing.
>>1087501
>Ignoring the pentagram as a mathematical construct
>Being super spiritual when the gnostics already showed you how to do religion right
>>1087515
>implying a 5-pointed star can't represent anything containing 5 of something
>5 Wounds, 5 Elements, 5 Magic Sentai Siblings etc
>implying Gnostic heresies are anything but a theological version of the edgy college sophomore going "BUT REAL COMMUNISM WAS NEVER REALLY TRIED MAN!
>>1085147
The fact that the pic didn't use the actual Satan's cross already tips off that that's b8, right, m8s?
>>1088886
>Satans cross
Why would he want to associate AT ALL with the tool of his absolute defeat?
>>1088886
In his own words Levay said that some people need images and symbols in order to feel comfortable with an ideaology.
He understood Satan as a metaphor for the ideal human but also carved out a path to understand him as a divine creature if that was the only way you could digest the metaphors.
He also literally had a background in the carnival so he knew how to get attention through shock and awe, which he succeeded at amazingly well. In reality his movement had very few real followers but millions that watched it for the showman-ship.
It depends on the religion, but following two religions are far easier with pagan, polytheism.
>>1081428
You don't have to "follow" anything.
You could just read their texts and pick and choose what works for you. It's called religious pluralism.
>>1081428
>that pic
>there are people stupid enough to believe it
>>1081428
Jews say they can enter and worship Islam if they force them. But Christianity isn't allowed. Dunno for the reason.
>>1081428
>OP's pic
What the fuck did I just see?
Jeremiah 8:8 How can you say, We are wise, and the law of God is with us? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
Matthew 10:21 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
So in short: The bible says it has been manipulated, that we live surrounded by demons even among our families, that there is an antichrist who will take the place of God in His temple (where is jesus placed in churches? and what claim is made of Jesus? Isn't he called god?) And what does Jesus say? Let's have a closer look at a few examples:
1. Love your enemies whom I told you are demons.
2. Sell all you have and give it to those arround you that are poor (punished demons).
3. Let yourself be smacked and give the other cheek (be defenseless against demons).
Doesn't sound holy at all.
Also loving your enemies sounds antinatural as fuck: Would your body respond to your desire to love a guy that's being torturing you for 50 straight years day and night in horrifying ways, cutting parts of your body with great delight and mocking you while promising you that you would die of old age suffering this and showing you with supernatural powers that this will continue after you die? No, you cannot love such a thing, you don't feel it, you claim it and it is a lie.
>>1090475
I'll explain what happened to me.
>2008
>See supernatural things
>Start looking for God and investigating things
>Start with weird eastern religions
>Things go horribly for me
>I am tortured, locked up, hated, miserable, in pain, demonized, receiving no help, shit goes horrible for me
>2010
>move to christianity the "book" way
>Initially things get a bit better but shit starts getting suspicious and I start getting fucked over again
>Oh it is a test (and nobody helped me with the demonization)
>Start reading up and investigating
>See the contradictions
>Try new things, variations, check what I'm doing wrong
>progressively worse the more I seem to be doing things by the book
>suddenly realize the ruse the moment I pray more to God for help in a very fucked up situation (I even wanted to die of cancer and end it all already)
>Notice this way of how God would be really like
>Put it into practice, my life improves drastically
http://pastebin.com/1bVCUeeS
Meanwhile since 2008 Spain is going to hell with no return. That's when the crisis started, also the rest of the world isn't going very nicely.
So I'm taking for granted more actual humans are realizing this and wrath is about to come. See how countries lately seem to be infiltrated by enemies of their people? Terrorists and such? Oh wow, what might happen?
>>1090476
>http://pastebin.com/1bVCUeeS
Interesting read, so you're kinda suggesting to believe in God in one's own way, as in "using your brain and not bowing blindly"? Is that what you're suggesting, to avoid listening to what the clergy is saying?
To be honest, I was somewhat confused a few years ago about Jesus. My parents never forced me and my sis into a religion, they instead chose to let us choose on our own, so my knowledge about religion is still limited, yet when I realized that every christian refers to Jesus as God but their god is actually the father of Jesus...well, I wasn't sure whether to argue with italians about that, as I'm an immigrant to them so I preferred to keep it to myself. Still, this whole deal was always kinda odd. Why call Jesus "God" if his father is the actual "God"? Does that mean they're clueless satanists or polytheists in denial?
>>1086694
>Also, prior to eternal anglo attempts to divide and conquer the subcontinent, there were groups of people in Bengal, Punjab, etc. who idenitified as both Hindu and Muslim and incorporated the beliefs of both into their beliefs.
I think the Ismaili Khojas of India used to identify Allah with Vishnu, and called Ali his avatar into 1900s. Then the Agha Khans started purging the religion of weird shit and drawing it closer to somewhat mainstream Shi'ite faith.
>>1090475
Back on your meds, fat gay loser dude.
>>1091673
No, it's your first glimpse into the Trinity.
God is a hyper-dimensional being; He has more dimensions to Him than we have.
So to us, saying that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God, and that there is only One God, goes against our nature. Goes above what we can understand.
Just as a citizen in Flatland, in 2D world, cannot see a cube as one object but can only see six sides as they are presented to him.
The Trinity is One God; and that one being, God, has manifested Himself to us in three persons. All bound together as one; the Father in the Son as the Son is in the Father; and the Father and Son are One.
It's confusing because it's beyond human comprehension. Just know that from God's perspective, He's very clear that He is one God, and one God only.
>>1091854
I see, now I understand the part about Jesus. Though I'm not sure what you were trying to say with the whole "submit to demons" thing (implying you're the same person I replied to, that is). I basically got that official texts should not be trusted because they're manipulated by demons, but I feel like I'm still missing something.
>>1081428
>Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
Colossians 2:8
>>1091962
So, don't listen to anything that aint Christ. Why do people claim this shit isn't anti-intellectual again? An ideology that actively says "don't listen to shit that aint this" isn't going to encourage honest intellectual rigour.
>>1081428
Would Constantine even know who Krishna was?
>>1081428
You can't outplay Pascal's Wager because you would also have to account for religions that haven't even been made yet. I can sit here all day and come up with possible true gods what you need to do to get on their good side
>>1091991
No. The Christ myth is mostly based on Mitha, which was actually part of Roman religious beliefs.
>>1091981
But the Bible tells us to listen to God. And we know that's good advice because God wrote the Bible.
>>1091981
>don't listen to anything that aint Christ
Correct.
>Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.''
John 14:6
>>1092001
Stale meme.
>>1092009
>God wrote the Bible.
Ha! Yep, Jesus wrote the gospels. I know you are talking about the Holy Spirit but you haven't proved that the writers were writing under divine inspiration
>>1092022
Wow, so you mean that Constantine fused together various different beliefs? It's almost as if Christ is meant to be a fusion of various beliefs and not based on one guy, so you throw in the messiah prophesy stuff and Mithra stuff to fuse Christianity with ideas already within Rome to quiet the dissent that was going on at the time.
Gee whiz, that can't be it. I'll bow down before Christ right now and accept him as my lord and savior, because it must be indisputable fact no matter how many contradictions or fucked up things Jesus said are.
>>1092031
The anon you replied to was being ironic.
>All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16
>>1092039
Open the pic instead of going full retard.
>>1092040
circular logic once again. I knew you were going to quote that or 2nd Peter. also for added irony you are quoting a Pseudo-Pauline letter
>>1092041
I did. And the stuff that's crossed out is all stuff that was necessary for Christ to be the messiah. It's fairly clear that Christ is merely a fusion of the messiah character tacked onto Mithra as a way of assimilating Christianity into Rome and quieting the dissent.
Same way Christians made pagan holidays like Christmas, Easter, etc., into Christian ones that made converting easier. So saying "IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME!" is obviously true, since it had to be a fusion not only of messianic Judaism, but of Roman theology as well. And they bundled it all up in Christ as that hybrid.
>>1092044
>circular logic
The Word became flesh.
What don't you understand?
There is nothing circular.
>>1081824
>But the core belief of Christianity is that Jesus, the man, was literally God.
We could always just bring back Nestorianism.
>>1092057
you mean Logos. remember that it's a platonism meme religion
>>1092052
You wish.
http://storage.cloversites.com/fcfgroups/documents/Why%20We%20Believe%207.pdf
By the power of the Holy Spirit He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, He suffered, died and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end.
This is true. All of it.
He preached for 3 years.
Was eventually betrayed and denied by His own disciples.
Then following His death and resurrection His Gospel was preached as far as India less than 30 years after His death and resurrection.
>>1092052
>>1092083
You know He wasn't ''just a carpenter''.
The Word became flesh.
>>1081568
>But they all worship the same god?
Thats the elephant in the room, but no one wants to accept it or discuss it.
And if that is the case, then which prophet is the correct one? The moses? The jesus? The mohammed?
>>1085147
>buddhism comes from hinduism
>>1092079
Gnostics may be the most annoying people on the internet.
>>1092100
Yeshua Ha'Mashiach
>>1092100
Anyone who believes Moses believes in Jesus, because Moses was talking about Jesus. The three religions hinge on the divinity of Jesus.
To the Christian, we know Jesus is God.
To the Jew, Jesus is not YHWH, just a false messiah.
To the muslim, Jesus is a messiah, but not in the same sense as the Jews mean "messiah", and Jesus is a prophet, but certainly not God. And certainly did not get crucified. And certainly did not die. And certainly did not rise from the dead.
>>1092102
Of course. Buddha hated Hinduism, rejected the authority of the vedas and the caste system, and created his own set of rules to live by.
>>1092057
>The Word became flesh.
You must first prove that. Otherwise, you claim that is true because the bible says so, and claim the bible is right because that is true. This is circular reason, you fucking retard.
Because of you, I now understand why Camus thought faith as an escape from existential concerns to be a sort of intellectual suicide.
>>1092107
I'm not a gnostic. christianity borrows from platonism. that's where the term Logos (translated as Word) comes from
>>1092289
Camus thought everything was a form of suicide.
>>1092297
I'm pretty sure it was just faith and suicide.
>>1092304
Ok, so we're at "it's true because the Bible says its true." But now you must prove that the Bible is true.
Or would you just politely admit to being a shitposting cretin?
>>1092304
the mods need to crack down on you only posting Bible verses. it's simply lazy shitposting. if you are going to post a bible verse you need to add some of your own words to place it in context of the post you are replying to. and for fuck's sake this is more circular reasoning
>>1081428
Kill yourself for even saving that fucking insult to history or people with a brain.
>>1092325
The bible proves itself true by telling the future as though it were the past.
Are you unaware of the thousands of failed attacks trying to prove something, anything, in the bible is wrong?
>>1092333
All bible verses come with this disclaimer: "Everything properly in the bible is true. This is properly in the bible. It is therefore true."
Better?
>>1092352
>Everything properly in the bible is true.
citation please. and don't quote the bible saying that the bible is true
>>1092350
You mean like the countless historical details that have been proven false?
>>1092372
>I always do this, pal.
believe me I've noticed. and you're not my pal, buddy
>>1092372
>The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
And you're back to the other end of the circle. What don't you understand? Find me a single atom of God, a scrap of evidence, anything that isn't Christianity insisting vehemently that it's the truth.
>>1092387
Oh so you're still at the babby ''is God real?'' stage?
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQUsK2eNkfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYSmV2FlHDw
>The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God.
Psalm 14:1-2
>>1092362
I am curious. What historical things in the bible are false or not entirely accurate? Not looking to argue just wanting to know, friendo
>>1087434
>Jews don't think that Christians follow the same god as them but believe that Muslims do.
Could you elaborate on this part as im quite curious.
>>1092396
>youtube
No. Make the argument yourself. You lazy piece of shit, waste of human flesh.
>>1092362
>>1092400
I smell some samefagging.
I'm >>1092386 btw.
>>1092408
The truth doesn't change just because you don't want to hear it.
>>1092414
I'm sure whatever argument is in this links has already been heard by me. Cosmological arguments, teleological arguments, and whatever other attempt to logic God into existence you want to make is still not proof of his existence. You cannot will something into existence just by trying to make it sound consistent. At best, they would suggest something akin a neo-platonic God that doesn't do jack shit.
>>1092400
not him but Ezekiel falsely prophecied that Tyre would be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar. it surrendered before he could enter the city. Daniel correctly predicts Alexander the Great, the division of his empire and then fails on what happens after that, revealing that it is a forgery made after Alexander's campaign. according to the archeological record the conquest of Canaan in Joshua and the United Monarchy of David and Solomon never happened
>>1092420
Watch the first video and if you have balls watch the second one.
>>1092425
I don't have time for that shit. Why don't you just make the argument yourself?
>>1092425
>inb4 it's the cosmological argument
>>1092421
>according to the archeological record
What a pathetic non-argument.
>>1092430
>I don't have time for that shit
The first video is 2mins long, you do have time.
>Why don't you just make the argument yourself?
It's my argument.
>>1092431
It is the cosmological argument. Quick scan through the video shows the argument is basically as follows:
>big numbers
>therefore god exists
>>1092433
Then you fail as a proselytizer. You let your superhero down.
>>1092432
>What a pathetic non-argument.
What a pathetic non-argument
>>1092432
I don't have the data in front of me. Read Lester L. Grabbe's book on ancient Israel
>>1092433
>if the odds of life appearing out of nothing are improbable
Dropped. Confirmed for a scientifically illiterate retard. Go fuck yourself.
>>1092435
No, nice try though, you lying dishonest atheist.
>For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools.
Romans 1:19-22
>And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
Romans 1:28-32
>>1092444
>there is absolutely nothing
>BAZINGA!
>/we conscious now/
That's very logical, pal.
>>1092359
I'm not sure what you don't understand. It's pretty straight forward.
Or is this the way you approach all writings? You have to have them all absolutely proven to be true before you read them?
>>1092362
Yes, the countless false details, because you cannot really count to zero very well.
>>1092452
As I said, scientifically illiterate. There has never been "nothing." You'd know this if you were even slightly educated on the subject.
>>1092448
You're the liar.
Plus, in response to your bible quotes, gods are not obvious in any sense, which is why atheism is growing. Also, I'm far more moral than you are because you're a liar - so that disproves your second verse.
>>1092420
And you cannot will the Almighty out of existence, either.
No matter how hard you hold your breath.
>>1092456
>There has never been "nothing."
Of course, since there has always been the eternal being, i.e. God.
>>1092459
Nah, there's always been a sort of background energy. Scientific nothing is not philosophical nothing.
>>1092458
I don't need to. There's literally no reason to believe he exists.
>>1092421
You should at least pretend to get the prophecy right. There were many kings involved in that prophecy, and the city of Tyre was never rebuilt.
It was buried.
And then another Tyre was built on top of the burial mound, entirely new.
No matter how hard you try, you will never find anything false in the bible. Not even false prophecy.
Daniel's prophecy goes from one antichrist to The Antichrist; he has made prophecies about the future, not failed prophecies about the past. Antiochus Epiphanes was only a type of antichrist, not the Antichrist.
They've already found David's name, establishing him in ancient Israel, and to say the wisest man in the world never existed because he's only written of in the most provable and proven book in the word is the stance of an ignorant fool.
>>1092453
>Or is this the way you approach all writings? You have to have them all absolutely proven to be true before you read them?
I don't assume any text to be 100% true. if you want to say the Bible is 100% true you have to prove it is first. at the very least you have to refute the tons of claimed inaccuracies in the Bible
>>1092437
Literally impossible.
Literally.
>>1092421
>>1092460
You can point out things like this all day, they will just claim the archeologist got it wrong and even point to some outdated or Christian source that argues otherwise
They have already decided that academics are on some quest to discredit God and should not be listened to if the contradict the bible/church tradition.
You might as well argue with your wall
>>1092462
Well that's not true, you might be:
1. Easily duped
2. A coward in the face of death
3. Naively optimistic and pursue confirmation constant.
Those are reasons.
>>1092462
Except your existence, the existence of life itself, the existence of the universe, the existence of objective morality, the fact that Jesus rose from the dead....
kek
You stand before God without excuse. Even a caveman can look at the stars and wonder who made them. You? You think they made themselves.
>>1092471
>things proven in that post
>zero
It is amazing indeed. Bullshit is a very valuable commodity.
>>1081428
Pascals wager is unwinnable. No matter what you do, there is always at least one other theoretical outcome that punishes your choice with infinite suffering and rewards you with infinite good for choosing otherwise
>>1092468
No, I do not have to prove it first. It speaks for itself.
If it is your desire to attempt to prove the bible wrong at any point, then it is my duty to demonstrate to you that the bible is right and you are wrong.
>>1092477
"Tyre will never be rebuilt."
It was destroyed and never rebuilt.
I proved you are a lying fool, and not to be trusted. That's worth something.
>>1092475
Not a single one of those proves God, and you know it. Not even the resurrection of Jesus (which isn't proven either, but he could very well be a vampire or some such if you already believe in the supernatural). Also there is no objective morality, even under a Christian worldview.
>>1092486
Of course they do. You just don't know that "God" is a title, not a being.
Jesus' resurrection suffices.
There is no objective morality without God, and as you have not God, you have no morality but what you steal from God, ironically.
As you steal His air, His food, His planet, His gravity, etc.
>>1092477
Prophecy:
Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon shall destroy the mainland (“field” KJV) portion of Tyre (Ezekiel 26:7-8).
Fulfillment:
Nebuchadnezzar II laid siege to Tyre for thirteen years beginning in 585-586 B.C. During this time, the inhabitants transferred most of their valuables to the island. The king seized Tyre’s mainland territories but returned to Babylon, finding himself unable to subdue the island fortress militarily (cf. 29:18). Tyre, weakened by the conflict, soon recognized Babylonian authority, which effectively ended the city’s autonomy and any aspirations for a greater Phoenicia.
I can do this 6 more times if you'd like.
>>1092492
>you steal his gravity
lmao
>>1092477
Prophecy:
Other nations are to participate in the fulfillment of the prophecy (vs. 3).
Fulfillment:
Following the Babylonian period, Tyre remained in subjection to Persia from 538-332 B.C. Alexander the Great besieged and captured the port in 332 B.C., and Ptolemies, Seleucids, Romans, and Muslim Arabs all had their turn at rule. After passing briefly into the hands of the Crusaders, the city was destroyed completely by the Mamluks (former Muslim soldier-slaves) in A.D. 1291.
>>1092477
Prophecy:
The city is to be flattened, like the top of a rock (vss. 4,14).
Fulfillment:
Like Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander was stymied by Tyre’s natural moat. The brilliant Macedonian was not so quick to give up, however. He used the building materials of the mainland city, and any other rocks and soil in the immediate vicinity, to build a causeway to the island. His complete conquest of Tyre took only seven months.
>>1092457
>gods are not obvious in any sense
See >>1092452
>atheism is growing
As much as bronies, yes.
>I'm far more moral than you are
...
>If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
Galatians 6:3
>you're a liar
How?
>With haughty arrogance, the wicked thinks, “God will not seek justice.” He always presumes “There is no God.”
Psalm 10:4
>>1092477
Prophecy:
It is to become a place for the spreading of nets (vss. 5,14).
Fulfillment
The waters around Tyre were renowned in ancient times for their fishing (Liverani, 1988, 5:932). This was all the fame the city could claim after its complete decimation by Alexander.
>>1092473
Not GOOD ones, but fair point
>>1092477
Prophecy:
Its stones and timbers are to be laid in the sea (vs. 12).
Fulfillment:
As noted above, the building of the causeway came from the remains of the mainland city. Sands carried by currents have built up a spit or tombolo around the causeway, forming a permanent connection between the island and the mainland.
>>1092477
Prophecy
Other cities are to fear greatly at the fall of Tyre (vss. 15-18).
Fulfillment:
Many fortified cities in the region capitulated to Alexander after they saw the genius and relative ease with which he captured Tyre.
>>1092477
Prophecy:
The city will not be inhabited or rebuilt (vss. 20-21).
Fulfillment:
Alexander sold almost all of Tyre’s inhabitants into slavery, and the city forever lost its importance on the world stage. Any vestiges of strength and power disappeared with the destruction of the Crusader fortress. Soûr, as it is known by Arabs today, is a small town in southern Lebanon
>>1092502
I can't believe He did either.
>>1092506
it was supposed to be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar though. Alexander isn't in the prophecy. nothing in the text mentions a 200 year gap
>>1092477
I'm not that anon who replied to you but it seems that you just got btfo.
Any comments you'd like to make?
>>1092477
Few modern Biblical archaeology discoveries have caused as much excitement as the Tel Dan inscription—writing on a ninth-century B.C. stone slab (or stela) that furnished the first historical evidence of King David from the Bible.
The Tel Dan inscription, or “House of David” inscription, was discovered in 1993 at the site of Tel Dan in northern Israel in an excavation directed by Israeli archaeologist Avraham Biran.
Was there anything else? Oh, that's right, you understood Daniel vis-a-vis Alexander the Great.
Did you know that Alexander the Great spared Jerusalem because of what the rabbis showed him in Daniel?
>>1092509
>>you're a liar
>how?
Because you are misrepresenting the argument made in the video. It IS the cosmological argument, which is an argument that has been laughed at for decades.
>>atheism is growing
>As much as bronies, yes.
Why would a god be so impotent as to allow disbelief and "degeneracy"? This alone proves that belief in gods are not an obvious conclusion to any question.
>>1092521
Of course it does.
The overthrow of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar was the first link in the long chain of evil--the first deadly blow which prepared for, and was the earnest of, the final doom. The change in this verse from the individual conqueror "he," to the general "they," marks that what he did was not the whole, but only paved the way for others to complete the work begun by him. It was to be a progressive work until she was utterly destroyed. Thus the words here answer exactly to what Alexander did. With the "stones, timber," and rubbish of Old Tyre, he built a causeway in seven months to New Tyre on the island and so took it [CURTIUS, 4, 2], 322 B.C.
>>1092524
It shows the existence of the House of David as the ruling family of Judah, not that David ruled all of Israel.
>>1092529
>s t r e t c h i n g
>>1092529
>The change in this verse from the individual conqueror "he," to the general "they," marks that what he did was not the whole, but only paved the way for others to complete the work begun by him.
oh my YHVH these semantics. this is why fundies are utter trash
>>1092528
>Why would a god be so impotent as to allow disbelief and "degeneracy"?
See >>1092448
and remember:
>The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God.
Psalm 14:2
>Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:13-14
>>1092536
Scepter never leaves Judah.
Jesus will rule the world with that scepter; He is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
>>1092545
Yes, reading things with an unbiased view must be very difficult for you. I find it impossible.
>>1092546
He
They
Not the same.
>>1092550
good for you, you know how to quote the Bible. that does nothing to refute my argument though
>>1092558
why the fuck would they not just refer to Nebechanezzar's army? what, do you think he marched up there by himself? fuck you and fuck apologetics
>>1092555
>Yes, reading things with an unbiased view must be very difficult for you. I find it impossible.
It's tough to be intellectually honest like me.
It's easy to be dishonest and make a false apology for it.
Keep sheltering yourself from reality you coward.
>>1092569
Not him but
>fuck apologetics
why?
>>1092582
I have nothing against defending your faith in and of itself but christian apologetics is full of stuff like the Tyre reading provided. they strain the text to twist out of it what they want. seeing this type of stuff over and over again just pisses me off
>>1092598
>they strain the text to twist out of it what they want
Or perhaps, what YOU don't want?
>>1092614
I don't read the bible with the intent to find everything wrong. I accept parts of the Bible as being historically accurate or at least partially. christian apologetics go in with the assumption that everything in the Bible is correct. that's the issue. with that assumption in mind they aren't willing to find something wrong so when they do find something wrong they twist the text in knots to make it seem to be correct. they aren't even willing to admit something is wrong in the Bible. I am willing to admit something is correct in the Bible. that is the key difference
>>1092642
*apologists
>>1092562
You don't have an argument. You're clinging to lies in the dark, hoping God can't see you.
>>1092642
>when they do find something wrong
Such as?
>twist the text in knots to make it seem to be correct
Or perhaps to find the hidden truths.
>>1092569
The King is his Kingdom.
>>1092577
I have made a deal with the living God.
Have you?
>>1092642
There's nothing wrong in the bible.
There's just you saying there must be.
>>1092655
>Such as?
this Tyre prophecy, the previously mentioned Daniel passage, Jesus saying the end of days would come within the current generation
>>1092660
the opposite is true. you are the one saying everything in it must neccisarily be true. I'm the one willing to say something in the Bible is true or untrue based on evidence
>>1092124
Buddha smoked weed and got high too. He set out to live on his own in Tibet and got high there.
>>1092676
See folks? Even when it's painfully laid out as true, the people who will not see cannot see the truth.
>>1092687
You do not judge the bible.
The bible judges you.
>>1092676
>this Tyre prophecy, the previously mentioned Daniel passage
This has already been explained to you by another anon in this thread.
The fig tree is a symbol of Old Covenant Israel:
>I will gather them all in, says the LORD: no grapes on the vine, No figs on the fig trees, foliage withered! Why do we remain here? Let us form ranks and enter the walled cities, to perish there; For the LORD has wrought our destruction, he has given us poison to drink, because we have sinned against the LORD.
Jeremiah 8:13-14
>Like grapes in the desert, I found Israel; Like the first fruits of the fig tree in its prime, I considered your fathers. When they came to Baal-peor and consecrated themselves to the Shame, they became as abhorrent as the thing they loved.
Hosea 9:10
Jesus applied it to his generation:
>Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went over to it, but found nothing on it except leaves. And he said to it, "May no fruit ever come from you again." And immediately the fig tree withered.
Matthew 21:19
>Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.
Matthew 24:32-34
>>1092676
>>1092769
The end of the OT age ended with the destruction of the Temple and those in power:
>Brother will hand over brother to death, and the father his child; children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved.When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Matthew 10:21-23
Seven times Jesus said to those in power, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees".
>You serpents, you brood of vipers, how can you flee from the judgment of Gehenna? Therefore, behold, I send to you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, so that there may come upon you all the righteous blood shed upon earth, from the righteous blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
Matthew 23:33-36
Then Jesus Laments over Jerusalem, and then:
>Jesus left the temple area and was going away, when his disciples approached him to point out the temple buildings. He said to them in reply, "You see all these things, do you not? Amen, I say to you, there will not be left here a stone upon another stone that will not be thrown down." As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately and said, "Tell us, when will this happen, and what sign will there be of your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Matthew 24:1-3
The end of the age happened within 40 years.
>>1089538
but it's objectively tue
never heard of syncretism?
rigid structure is antithetical to the pursuit of understanding and uplifting the soul.
>>1081611
>asian religions are less dogmatic and book-based
BIG implications come in small packages
>>1090045
You can be a Jew one day, a Muslim the next day, a Hindu the next day, a Catholic the next day, and switch around as you will.
The instant you become a Christian, it's permanent. Jews know it, and call it genocide.
>>1081428
>Can you follow two religions? Maybe even two or five at once?
Follow all of them. Religion is the expression of the unconscious mind, as a result all religions are true, they are true when understood metaphorically, as powerful symbols.
But if you don't realize this you are stuck worshipping a symbol rather than grasping at the meaning.
>>1081568
>But they all worship the same god?
According to Muslims they do
According to Christians Muhammad was lead astray by the devil to create a heretical offshoot of Syriac Christianity which eventually grew into its own "religion"
>>1092775
whoa, you completely forgot that the "end of this age" included Jesus's second coming. no Jesus at the destruction of the temple
>>1081568
>But they all worship the same god?
According to Muslims they do
According to Christians Muhammad was lead astray by the devil to create a heretical offshoot of Syriac Christianity which eventually grew into its own "religion"
>>1092776
its true that someone put those three into an image together for ignorant mongs to post around. however the relations are entirely superficial just like the average person who thinks such things knowledge of faiths in general.
>>1091954
The "submit to demons" and "the prostate was made for pleasure" guy is not me. I'm the guy that tells him to go back on his meds, and he refuses to do so.
The Holy Spirit of God inspired the writers to write the bible; about 40 of them wrote the 66 books of the bible over about 1500 years. The autographs are inerrant; what we have passed down to us is 99.5% intact.
People like the prostate guy try to fit a world of information into that .5%, even if they know that it involves spelling variants, idioms, copyist errors, etc.
The bible is a very reliable way to get you to the most reliable person in the universe, and that is Jesus.
>>1092001
Zeitgeist, the poster.
>>1092039
Clueless, on purpose.
I hope.
>>1092821
>You can be a Jew one day, a Muslim the next day, a Hindu the next day, a Catholic the next day
people like this are looking more for fashion than faith
>>1089432
And it's retarded.
>>1092031
They told the future as though it were the past, something only God can do. If you want to try to take something and separate Jesus from the Holy Spirit, good luck with that.
>>1092821
>a Catholic the next day, and switch around as you will
>The instant you become a Christian, it's permanent
>>1092292
Catholicism does, a little bit. Christianity not at all.
Christianity is the confession Jesus is Lord, and the knowledge that He rose from the dead.
None of that is in Plato.
>>1092001
t. someone who knows nothing about the cult of Mithras beyond the most superficial
or christianity for that matter
Zeitgeist posters are almost as bad as the "woah dude Eastern faith is like so peaceful and spiritual, not like a real religion and I can just think about chakras while risking nothing or changing anything in my life"
>>1092859
Dude, that's a trippy pic. I opened it and it kept getting bigger and closer.
>>1092039
>Wow, so you mean that Constantine fused together various different beliefs?
he did none of this
considering the quite strong records we have of the Council of Nicaea the core NT books were chosen precisely because they were the most accurate and oldest
>>1092872
>he
>>1092860
>Christianity not at all.
I sincerely hope you don't think proddies are Christian
Even Martin Poother was completely ashamed with what that lot of heretics turned into, a complete and utter mess.
>>1092860
>Christianity is the confession Jesus is Lord
Pic related and:
http://whynotcatholicism.net/view/the-early-church-was-catholic
Also:
>And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Matthew 16:18-19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes#1st_century
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KV6PXSODgE
The reformers were deceived.
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
>>1092878
>has
>>1092860
>>1092888
Luther literally attempted to remove the books of James, Hebrews, Jude and Revelation from the canon since they went against his Protestant doctrines.
Wake up.
>>1092906
Daily Reminder that Martin Luther was a Catholic monk at all relevant times.
>>1092886
That you don't know who is a Christian, and who is not, means that you are not a Christian.
You know, logically speaking.
>>1092919
>"If your papist annoys you with that word (i.e. alone), tell him straightaway: Doctor Martin Luther will have it so: Papists and asses are one and the same thing. Whoever will not have my translation, let him give it the go-by: the devil's thanks to him who censures it without my will and knowledge. LUTHER WILL HAVE IT SO, AND HE IS A DOCTOR ABOVE ALL THE DOCTORS IN POPEDOM."
Amicable Discussions, 1 127
>>1092888
Yes, I know all about your papist nonsense, and how you do not know that James was not using the word faith to mean what you think it means.
Answer me this though. James was the younger half-brother of Jesus, and never thought Jesus was the Messiah until after the resurrection.
Why do you even compare, much less prefer, the writings of this Judaizer to the greatest apostle of all time, Paul?
Ephesians 2
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Do you see, yet, blind man?
1. Salvation is accomplished.
2. THEN works are provided for you to walk in.
>>1092890
I shouldn't have; I don't know if he's really a dude or not.
>>1092937
Virulently anti-semetic Catholic friars are virulently anti-semetic Catholic friars.
>>1092943
>...to those sanctified in Christ Jesus...
1 Corinthians 1:2
>You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don’t you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
>...you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ...
1 Corinthians 6:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4RFoknrwc
>Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:21-23
>>1092926
I know who is Christian, and its not the reformers
>>1092987
this
>>1092947
Constantine was a man you mong
Heretics up to their old tricks again
>>1092987
>>1093001
18th-century Enlightenment thinkers, philosophers, and others critical of all the established branches of Christianity which claimed universal authority of interpretation and regularly warred with one another compiled a shortened version of the New Testament consisting exclusively only of the words and actions quoted directly from Jesus himself while entirely ommitting the apostles' own personal thoughts and interpretations.
If you want to understand "true" Christianity shouldn't you start fundamentally with just the words of Jesus himself? Even the apostles, church fathers and early saints were only human.
>>1093025
>If you want to understand "true" Christianity shouldn't you start fundamentally with just the words of Jesus himself?
I'm not the anons you replied to but see >>1092975
>The one who endures to the end will be saved.
Matthew 24:13
>But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
Romans 11:17-24
Once again:
>For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.
Romans 11:22
>>1093025
>>1093063
>For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:26-29
>For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
2 Peter 2:20-21
>Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10
>But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
1 Corinthians 9:27
>And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.
Luke 8:13
>>1081428
just one but I guess your particular belief could incorporate a lot
>>1093025
except Jesus himself said the faith should not be stagnant but grow beyond him
which is exactly why the saints are important because they have done exactly that.
stagnation is death
>>1093025
>>1093063
>>1093097
>And so, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed, not only when I was with you but even more now that I am absent, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:12
>Now that we have been justified by his blood, how much more will we be saved from wrath through him! For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life!
Romans 5:9–10
>Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw—each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
1 Corinthians 3:12–15
how do I into greek paganism?
>>1093146
when people say "paganism" I don;t think they often understand exactly what it is, or what characterized the massively disparate ideas of ancient societies, let alone within single societies
honestly I'd say looking at Hinduism is the best way to help you understand the "pagan" mindset, but even Hindus have been heavily influenced by the likes of Buddhists, Christians and Muslims, as well as vice versa.
>>1092937
holy cringe, Luther really was autistic
>>1092866
I am curious about the cult of Mithras. I understand it was an all male military and political cult during the 1st to 4th centuries. I guess really my question is when and where can I kill a bull to join this religion?
>>1081568
their conceptions of God and what they say God commands them to do is so far different between the three that you really couldn't practice all three.
for instance, if you wanted to practice Judaism, you wouldn't even be allowed to enter a church during a service, as Jews are forbidden to do this by their laws.
if you were a Christian, you couldn't accept Islam because it denies the divinity of christ.
differences like this are pretty crucial in those faiths...
Don't you all understand?? There is only one God-every religion serves him but only Christianity serves him right. This is why the elite families choose to use the bible backwards, teaching the world to be immoral without even knowing. Triangles and eyes trying to make this world a sinful place and where do the list of sins lie-in the holy bible. See past the smoke screens. I used to think differently but now I wish you could all see what I see. It's so clear.
>>1092121
>we know Jesus is God.
Ah yes, the mark of the antichrist, a guy that comes and sets up himself in the temple proclaiming that he is God.
>>1091673
Not exactly, take a closer look at what I'm answering at the guy above this answer.
Jesus is the antichrist, 2 thessalonians 2:4 He came, said he was God and is set in the temple of God. The world doesn't hate him but preachs him. Take good notes. True christians are persecuted.
It's not believing in your own way, it's understanding that God gives freedom, it's understanding that loving your enemies is antinatural and proper of the antichrist, it's understanding that your human nature isn't "sinful" because how can be made the image and semblance of God into a sin. There is sin, but these people lie about which are actual sins.
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Put a horny woman and a horny dog together, really do it, let's see if chastity and restraint happen or strangely enough a "most horrific abomination" happens. It's not a natural thing to remain chaste, you don't want to stop your vagina or penis it's not in your nature. So no, the nature of God isn't virginity and "holy" union between man and woman. It's sexual freedom.
And take good notes how people that preach jesus take good care not to do what he says but make up shit (interpretations) to pretend they are doing it.
>>1091854
Just as a citizen in Flatland, in 2D world, cannot see a cube as one object but can only see six sides as they are presented to him.
Yeah no, we cannot see a cube as one object, but onlu as the sides. A flatlander can only see an edge of a square. Not a square.
Besided, I have a pretty good understanding of dimensions over the conventional three(or four if your a "time is a spacial dimension"fag). And I don't see how this is related to God or the trinity in any way
>>1094605
Why would for instance a God deprive Himself of sexual pleasure?
Doesn't the bible claim angels went to earth and had sex?
How come they had sexual organs? What did they need them for if in heaven there is no sex?
Don't the very jesusbois assure you that there are demons of sex? How come there's a fallen angel with sexual organs if angels are not to have sex?
And between lies they have you hate what is good and pleasurable pretending it is a sin.
The demon I have? Firs thing he did? Yeah, straight to the sex to try and have me convinced that it was a thing God does not want.
The moment I realized this? He completely stopped trying to please me sexually.
He used to give me very intentse orgasms, the moment I realized this? Nope, he stays put like a bitch.
Also he wants me to accept jesus. So imagine where jesus leads.
>>1094530
>if you were a Christian, you couldn't accept Islam because it denies the divinity of christ.
A lot of early christian sects denied the divinity of christ. just saying.
>>1086666
HAIL SATAN
>>1085147
>Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal
WHAT'S THE SIGNAL, LUCIFER?
More seriously, "the signal" (presumably some kind of unholy secret handshake) can only be interpreted as a sexual advance, so this rule amounts to "Do not make sexual advances unless given sexual advances", the issue is under this rule no one would ever get laid
>>1092498
>prophecy
>an even that occured while Hebrews were there to witness it during a period where the bible is people heavily rewritten
I can't believe you literally use this as evidence for making the (according to you) most important decision of your life
>>1081428
I've been reading a lot of Hindu mythology lately and it is probably the best mythology imho. It's like reading an over the top anime.
It has everything philosophy, action, romance
Heck after reading Maha bharat, I realized how many books have copied it's themes and philosophy.
With rich a rich culture I wonder why India turnes into the shithole it is?
>>1094859
>>1081428
>Can you
Of course you can. Humans can do anything with their life. Just don't expect anyone to understand.
>>1084943
That's also the evil demiurge and not the real nice God
t. Absolutist Dualist
As far as multiple Abrahamic religions go some don't require you be in their lot to be saved, and some don't believe in an afterlife (or at least not a worthwhile one). So if you pick carefully I guess you could cover a lot. There's also stuff like Buddhism and getting good karma that isn't incompatible outside of that.
>>1092782
care to elaborate?
>>1092124
Expcept there was no 'hinduism' at that time.
Hinduism is just created by british to group all non muslims of india.
They just followed the gita/vedas and whatever was passed onto them from their ancestors, and buddha was just one of the philosphers and debators who argued and changed society in india among a long line of them, its just the ashoka spread his message abroad and made him famous
Sure. You can be a Catholic and follow both the teachings of Christ and be a pagan but only in denial.
>>1095672
epic meme
