Ian Smith:
>Britain decolonizes and decides to sing Kumbaya with blacks on their own tiny island
>Doesn't work so well for Kenya, Uganda, etc., blacks run whites out, everything turns to shit
>Rhodesia sees that blacks simply aren't ready to assume control of a nation-state overnight
>Says "FuckThat.bmp"
>Declares independance
>Implements a system whereby blacks will be raised
>Soviets and PRC start supporting black insurrectionists all around the south-east of Africa (this is where Mugabe comes in)
>Cause shitstorm for Rhodesia
>Bush wars ensue (Rhodesia kicks ass, but it's going to be endless war)
>USA and Britain won't help 'coz Ian Smith a raysuss and we need to distract from our own race issues here (South Africa is cool though because they're way more conservative than Rhodesia)
>Only SA is left to support (via supply convoys up one highway), but eventually even this stops
>Rhodesia, backs to the wall decide to cave and hold elections
>Mugabe intimidates voters outside the poll stations to vote for him with goons
>Mugabe takes over
>Generally keeps things running smoothly for a while
>War buddies start demanding their gibsmedats they were promised
>'Gabe starts repossessing/redistributing white farmland
>Blacks who don't know how to farm land now own it
>Everything turns to shit (crop failure, hyperinflation)
>"We would just steal, but there is nothing left to steal anymore."
>>1100002
so are white people to blame for post mugabe zimbabwe too?
>>1100010
I am defending Smith. He did nothing wrong
>>1100002
That Mugabe's war buddies started demanding gibsmedats wasn't the problem in and of itself, just someone embezzled all the gibsmedats so he had to start parcelling out land instead
>>1100016
>He did nothing wrong
>illegally declare a state independent
>wrestle control from the start of your term in power to the forced dissolution of the state
>refuse to concede to both parliamentary and international rules because 'muh nationalism'
Kennedy destroyed any chance of Africans ever becoming civilised in our lifetime.
Who would have thought that ones lofty ideals don't hold up against the reality of nature.
His idiotic behaviour aside.
How the fuck did no General of the states saw Communists arming insurgents and said:
>"Maybe letting our enemy spread his ideology unhindered is a bad idea"
>"Maybe we should help the guys who don't hate our guts"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJFRTJgPbU
>>1101327
This is not exactly a fair representation of Zimbabwean history.
Required watching for anything Africa related South of the Sahara.
https://youtu.be/A0C4_88ub_M
>>1101345
>implying it needs to be
It tells people what they want to hear
>>1101351
It rather tells people what they don't want to hear.
Maybe there's a reason why Africa is such a shithole other than due to people with a lighter skin-colour
>>1101350
Watched that the other night, good documentary. Who's in the picture?
>>1101345
Really? I thought this 2 minute mspaint video made me an expert on the entirety of Zimbabwe's history.
>>1101374
Judging by the dog I'd guess some family in Rhodesia
Image search comes up with "White Farmers Zimbabwe
South Africa is a great pre-lude of what awaits Europe.
This world is mad, it throws away any sort of rationality because it fears the consequences of it.
There seems to be no middle-ground for most people.
I'm not a racist, I never was. Why are people unable to look at both sides of an argument?
I'm afraid of what the future holds.
>>1100342
>illegally
Fuck off
>>1101390
what kind of dog is it?
>>1101435
>implying Europe won't have a mass revolt
It's just dialectics senpai
>>1101447
*cough* Rhodesian Ridgeback *cough* I have 4 of them.
>>1101447
German Shepard
>>1101366
>colonize a territory
>completely exploit it and offer no help to the native population that outnumbers you massively
>expect them to not be mad
>>1101450
whatarethey like?
>>1101447
Looks like an Rhodesian Ridgeback
>>1101448
I'm scared, mate.
Deathly scared.
>>1101462
Good dogs, very protective of children, realtivly intelligent.
I use them for hunting Hogs
>>1101458
>completely exploit it and offer no help
>>1101464
You're just a pussy then
>>1101480
Economic development I mean
Compare and contrast Namibia and Rhodesia.
Why did Namibia prevail when Rhodesia fell?
>>1101488
Lad...
>>1101458
More like
>Go to a place,with no civilization,huge rates of child mortality,no infraestructure and medicine
>People Go there for resources,and they bring their knowledge in agriculture,science,mathematics and engineering with them.
>Those people create moderatly wealthy societies
>Negros chimp out
>Become a shithole.
What is it with the USA and arming rebels in foreign countries, which inveritabely end up fucking everything up in the future?
>>1101504
>for whites
It's the same reason why there's so much resentment for the west Germans in former east Germany. You'd be an idiot to think it wouldn't happen
>>1101501
It wasnt boicoted by the UK and The UN? That is a pretty big difference
>>1101512
>brit bongs think they have a right to colonize
They could've let a sleeping dog lie
>>1101529
Why? Is this how you answered questions in exams?
>>1101540
He's actually an obsessive Spaniard and if you knew ANYTHING at all about Rhodesia's downfall, you wouldn't call him a Brit.
>>1101525
East Germans never did this:
>>1101366
>>1101366
>>1101366
And you're daft if you think blacks didn't live in Salisbury.
Also do you honestly believe the uneducated native population was going to suddenly start running successful businesses and an effective government if only people just handed them the cash? The racial situation in Rhodesia was a natural reflection of the vast disparity in capabilities between whites and blacks. This post >>1101512 points out beautifully what happens when unqualified people seize authority for themselves.
What happened to white-Rhodesians after Rhodesia? Where did they go and how were they accepted?
>>1101561
Like I said, the area could've never been colonized. The anger from the black majority is completely understandable even if it's not justified
>>1101540
Colonization was good. Why dont we bitch when Romans colonized Spain or France as much as we do with Africa? There is no difference. Resources, for getting technology and new ways of development. It is the same principle.
>>1101565
Other parts of Africa,Australia or the UK. This small clip is interesting,if you want to see an example.
https://youtu.be/Umj8-U2sg4E
>>1101565
Most left to go to the UK or SA I think. Lots could get UK citizenship.
>>1101561
Yeah. It was pretty obvious that it would happen
>>1101501
>Why did Namibia prevail when Rhodesia fell?
A huge part of the success of Namibia was that they had Rhodesia to give them an example of how bad things could get. By all means everyone expected SWAPO to go full Zimbabwe, but instead they ended up being surprisingly reasonable upon taking power. Sure, they still worked to perform land redistributions to fix the fact that the vast majority of usable land in Namibia was owned by a tiny white minority, but instead of taking the full-retard approach of Mugabe, they were more level-headed about it - hell, they wrote into their constitution that forced confiscations aren't allowed, and that the only thing they can do is buy land for redistribution.
It also probably helped that South Africa was much more effective at limiting SWAPO's presence to the northern extremes of the country up until 1991, and that SWAPO was the only group contending for the country, unlike the three-sided conflict Rhodesia experienced. And then you also had the fact that communism was falling just as Namibia gained its independence. Though SWAPO may have been full-on commies, they recognized that they weren't going to be getting any support from their friendly neighborhood Soviets for much longer, so they toned down the rhetoric to avoid becoming a pariah state.
>>1101598
>taking the full-retard approach of Mugabe
Did Mugabe just force whites to give up their land under threat of death? He kept harassing them?
>>1101569
>The anger from the black majority is completely understandable even if it's not justified
Yes I can understand why someone would be angry by being outperformed by a foreigner but what is tragic is that rather than use this anger to constructively improve oneself, the Africans destroyed that which they could not create.
>>1101607
That was basically bound to happen. The colonial powers were retarded to think anything good would happen out of it
>>1101613
Perhaps you're right that the colonial powers were overly optimistic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/913414.stm
>>1101603
Mugabe did a lot of shit wrong. A big part of what he did was forced confiscations of land from whites. While the confiscations were performed under the guise of undoing the massive wealth inequalities between the black and white population, the reality was that he did so more to punish dissenters while rewarding his supporters (land was usually given to supporters).
While taking land from successful farmers and giving it off to people who have little to no experience in farming had predictable effects (famine), that also played into Mugabe's hands. He'd been far from a popular person, only gaining power thanks to extensive voter suppression, primarily targeted at rival ethnic groups. This unrest continued past the end of the Bush War, and having economic hardship and famine only made things easier for him. He could divert food away from dissenters and use aid as a weapon by only supplying it to those who remained in support of him. By doing so, he could create a situation where he can maintain the facade of legitimacy by still holding democratic elections, but just making sure that any dissenters are too poor/starving to vote.
While Mugabe was a fairly extreme example of what could go wrong, it still served as a warning that Namibia and South Africa heeded - forcible redistribution may be an attractive prospect, but it opens the door to authoritarian practices that will ruin the country.
>>1101639
Are you Rhodesian by any chance?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War
>>1101603
At first Mugabe was happy with a Willing Buyer, Willing Seller system whereby white farmers would only sell their land willingly, mostly to their black farmhands who actually knew about agriculture and how to run a farm. The Zimbabwean government would forcefully evict any black squatters and otherwise make sure the transition went smoothly. This was probably the best solution available. Agricultural output would remain about the same.
The trouble started when the War Veteran's Fund that Mugabe had set up to compensate veterans of the Second Chimurenga either ran out or was embezzled. The only valuable commodity that couldn't be exported and could be used to compensate the veterans was land, so the government put a lot of pressure on whites to "willingly" sell their land by generally making things difficult for them, but the clause nominally remained in effect. By this stage land was mostly going to soldiers and commanders who had no idea how to utilise or maintain it.
Bear in mind that these weren't really traditional subsistence farms, they were massive, modern operations and required a lot of skilled labor and administration to maintain. The Shona don't really have a tradition of growing crops, their traditional farming was cattle-rearing, which complicated the situation further.
Eventually the government started outright ignoring the clause and said that if whites didn't sell their land it would eventually be seized and they would be compensated with a much smaller amount of money than they would have got if they had willingly sold it.
>>1101643
Nope. Why?
>>1101657
I'm keen to talk to one.
Should I love to Cape Town?
t. young, white, British male.
>>1101565
Most farmers don't have the money to leave now.
Most countries don't recognise their claims for asylum.
https://youtu.be/JJhRiA6h1k0
A talk with a guy from South Africa.
Take this as well.
https://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo
https://youtu.be/0DuNhsLR9y0
https://youtu.be/4_-uPkYoX4M
>>1101688
>https://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo
that's not relevant.
>>1101603
Weapons were confiscated.
Self-Defense laws were changed.
He basically gave his mobs all the tools to take the farms without him having to move a finger
Just an example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2787057.stm
>>1101691
It's a good insight nonetheless.
>>1101565
Most fled to the UK, Australia, South Africa and Botswana. Ian stayed though and dedicated the rest of his life to bantz about Mugabe.
>>1101714
Damn, I have't even began looking into Botswana yet, all I know is that it's doing better than its neighbours. I think Rhodesia a more beautiful county however.
>>1100342
>he actually believes that a declaration of independence can be "illegal"
>>1101455
>actually believing this shit
Holy fucking shit I am lol'ing right now, is this Kai Murros guy 12 years old? What a fucking edgy idiot.
Africa is a perfect example of not everyone being equal, and that the assumption that we are is utterly destructive.
I am all for equality, but most ignore that some people just don't want the same.
And in the face of that issue, people think that appeasing those who abuse this will fix it is utterly delusional.
There is a middle ground, people just fail to realise that.
>>1101793
>I am for equality except for some people
>>1101884
I didn't say that.
>>1100002
Oh its this thread again...
>>1101921
I misread your post
>>1101926
It's a sad thing really.
I'd like to believe in a multicultural society.
But it just doesn't work if just one group practices that.
One needs to do no more than to look at europe.
We failed, and people are unable to admit it.
We, and our children will suffer for it.
No one ever mentions how fucked up the education system was and how extremely flawed the franchisement system was, the fact that Rhodesia was ruled no different from a colony, wage disparities between races in the same job, the horrible land system, the governments huge disparity of funding and representation between groups etc.
It was unsustainable and Ian Smith and certain interests (such as white unions that did anything to prevent blacks from entering their fields or trades since they depress the wages) refused to stop daydreaming.
>>1101464
>Cyprus
Wait, what the fuck? I'm a Cypriot and this is the first time I've heard about Cyprus being involved in a conflict in Africa.
>>1101540
Shows them right for trying to uplift animals from the filth
>>1101947
It may have been shit but they were certainly better off than now
>>1101947
I wish Rhodesia was as good as the Rhodies say, but this is the sad truth.
>>1102065
Only until the British stopped helping with Zimbabwe willing seller willing buyer and Mugabe desperation to pay the veterans of the war that led to illegal land seizures, mismanagement of farms, lack of confidence in the currency that led to massive inflation.
Prior to that many whites were fine with him because contrary to the meme vast majority of whites were urban and had about the same economic influence and as long as their economic interests weren't touched they gave no fucks. Only when shit went down did they start to leave.
>>1100002
>/pol/ revisionism
>>1101525
>for whites
>implying that rhodesia was split into ooga-booga tier black bush and gleaming whites-only cities
you're just as bad as the 'white paradise' racists
>>1102102
>redd!t whitewashing
>>1100002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DuNhsLR9y0
>>1101754
Kai Murros is a widely respected international speaker for European communities, and the idea of an independent Europe.
You're a shit whipe on the Internet
>>1101577
>comment section
>literally dindunuffin
How can anyone justify Mugabe while blaming everything on America and the UK, some even claim America steal Zimbabwe farming.
>>1102008
Support doesn't necessarily mean Cyprus participated in combat - the americans and russians, as far as mainstream history can tell, did not (the CIA and the KGB, however, are known to have been involved in at least training and arms dealing).
Just sending supplies and vehicles and weapons counts as that, which is probably what happened here.
>>1102605
I've literally never heard of him before now and an Internet search doesn't give much beyond /pol/ tier sites
>>1102059
>the Brits colonized for humanitarian reasons
It's simple to see that whites are better nation builders
>hhhuuurrr colonisers raped all the wealth out!
Buy building farms and infrastructure? Schools, hospitals, industry? Strange way to destroy a country that was free of hate and a utopia before hand
Where the kaffir using diamonds or gold? Had the means to mine it? Or any interest in it? No.
>But racciss whites!
Which is nothing compared to the racism of Mu-dindu-gabe's communist regime
The easiest way to see who was right is honestly ask yourself if you would live in Rhodesia or Zimbabwe
Operation Eland and Dingo still make me smile when I read about them
>>1102777
It is a byproduct of colonisation
This tbqh
>>1102793
Colonization that had absolutely no need to happen
>>1102803
>expansion is only bad when whites do it
No
It also had plenty of fucking reasons,
Resources,
Growing population
We can
A bunch of uppity niggers shouldn't stop progress because they like to throw spears at each other and be lead by a witch doctor
>>1102758
>I've literally never heard of him before
>you knowing about him matters
Top Zozzle
>>1102827
>implying I implied the 'only whites'
>implying 'progress' exists as a single thing
If it does exist, the colonial countries did a pretty shitty job
>>1102842
>only reading half of a one sentence post
>>1102860
The rest is a flase comparison.
No need to address it, narcissist.
>>1102885
>stormfront
>metapedia
>daily stormer
>facebook page has 695 likes
He is not important
>>1102895
You're much less important than him, and people who link to him have no connection with him, and he does not support Genocide, or Racism.
Fuck off and fall in a pool.
>>1102902
t. Kai murros
>>1102912
LENIN
>Russia is in the middle of a costly, pointless, imperialist war.
>Everyone is sick and tired of spending all this time fighting when it's not going to improve their lives in any way even if they win.
>Thus there is a communist revolution to put a stop to this nonsense.
>Wins
>Civil war ensues
>Wins that too. And the royal family get BOLSHEVIK'D.
>Implements a full socialist system of government with greater liberty and equality than has ever been seen before in Eastern Europe.
>Also wrote some quality books.
>Almost 100 years later.
>Butthurt descendents of Kulaks spit on everything the communists built for them and live in sewers addicted to heroin playing Counter Strike.
>>1102930
Ever heard of NEP?
And the Green and Black Armies?
>>1102941
NEP was nothing wrong.
Anarchists can get the fuck out.
>>1102930
Yeah fuck off.
>>1103054
/his/ - definitely absolutely not /pol/ with dates.
Because there aren't any dates here.
>>1103077
You're right, it's /leftypol/ with dates right now.
>>1103085
The communists on this board are absolutely dwarfed by the racists and wehraboos.
>>1102954
>any chance anarchists had of succeeding ruined by Communists betraying them
>thinking that because states were created that called themselves "socialist" that gives credibility to Communism when those states simply murdered a lot of people, caused a lot of people to starve, and then failed
>>1101572
There's no social or political capital to be had from pointing out white colonized, enslaved, and genocide other whites more than non-whites.
>>1103183
Anarchists had no chance of succeeding and the USSR was socialist.
>>1100002
Rhodesia's flag is just a tackier version of Nigeria's
>>1103473
>Anarchists had no chance of succeeding
The Communists made sure of that.
>The USSR was socialist
>Because we say the state is actually of the people when in reality it's autocratic and undemocratic that means the workers actually own the means of production and if you disagree we're going to "famine" you, purge you, or just send you to forced labor
What a wonderful workers' paradise, truly Communism was only a few short years away before those dirty bourgeoisie ruined everything.
>>1100002
Here's something for you OP, part of a rare interview with Ian Smith, from Firing Line in the US. Transferred it from an ancient home recorded VCR a few years back, and couldn't find it again until now, coudn't find the year of the clip though:
http://b.1339.cf/daygxsy.mp4
>>1103504
Anarchists should be all fucking hanged. Your solution shits on 10,000 years of progress in exchange for "lol no rules we're all free". Kill yourself.
>Inb4 It hasn't been tried
>inb4 "muh humanity and muh freedom"
This man
>>1103113
Hialrious.
>>1103523
>warlords stealing your grain as tribute is progress
>inbred monarchs starting wars over who really deserves to be the master is progress
>feudal lords reigning over peasants like they're slaves is progress
>empires and nation states that kill millions to satisfy the greed and power lust of the ruling class is progress
And anarchy has nothing to do with rules, a common slogan is order through anarchy.
Try to tone down the angry shitposting a little or at least go back to /pol/.
>>1104169
has nothing to do with no rules*
>>1104169
Sure, when you misrepresent and outright lie about what historical societies were like anarchism looks great.
>>1104187
There's no misrepresenting or lying. Sure, there has been virtuous and wise kings that have improved their subjects lives or a feudal lord who honorably treated his serfs, but regardless of any of their positive actions, they only rule because of force or the threat of it. They were and never were necessary, they leached from the people they ruled while fooling them into thinking they deserved to rule because God put them there, or nowadays, because they've fooled the people into thinking that individual criminals kill and cause more destruction than the countless wars throughout history or that thieves steal more than taxes that oftentimes is more than the person takes home.
>>1104221
There have been states that ruled without the use of force imposed on the people.
>>1104234
Then it would no longer be a state. Even true democracies impose force, just on a fewer number of people. Democracies are even more irrational, because it claims that its legitimate because people have consented to being forced to do things they didn't consent to.
>>1104246
I think fundamentally statist structures are necessary to preserve people's rights.
There's some data about causes of death in pre-agricultural societies, and somewhere around a third of males die to human violence. The right of liberty from a system of justice and taxation leads to a very rational violation of other peoples' rights to life and property - other groupings are equally free from oversight, and the only way to guarantee your own safety is to eliminate threats before they have the chance to eliminate you.
>>1104274
States are not necessary to protect peoples' rights, oftentimes they aren't even effective at that. A close community would self moderate and deal with any disputes and any crimes without there being some bureaucratic system in place.
Even if the state was effective at protecting your rights, it would never stop there. An organization must always grow, it is inevitable. So what once started as a "night watchman state" eventually becomes something much more, especially since with the state comes the idea that certain individuals have authority and power over others that normal people don't have, this gives the individual with authority the idea that they are morally above others.
>>1100342
>refuse to concede to international rules
It's a shame when people don't do what a mob of outsiders tell them to do in their own house.
It's all political shenanigans, it has nothing to do with human life.
Look what the UN allowed to happen in Rwanda and then try to honestly tell me they give a fuck about how many Africans die, or how terrible their deaths are.
Everything world leaders do is for selfish political ends.
>>1101443
>>1101741
>>1104371
Hello Americans
>>1104374
Rhodesia could be a nice place today if we hadn't allowed it to collapse.
South Africa could be a growing power instead of collapsing slowly into Rhodesia tier bullshit if we didn't help to ring in it's doom as well.
Whites are the best at fucking other whites, that much is certain.
>>1100002
He was too headstrong. He should've given equal rights, then hunted down the remaining ZANLA leaders. UN recognizes Rhodesia, economy and infrastructure remain strong, everyone is happy.
>>1104374
>declare that you are no longer part of a state
>somehow that state's laws should still apply to you
>>1104010
Portugals downfall is correlated to the lose of the colonies.
Africa would look incredibly different today if Rhodesia, South Africa and Angola were still under Colonial rule.
But no.
Evil white man only exploits
Evil white man leaves nothing behind
Now give us more food-aid evil white man.
>>1104371
That was France fucking shit up.
>>1104390
You think the systems in South Africa and Rhodesia were stable at all?
>>1104507
Like keeping a huge Coloured and Black underclass is batshit insane especially when you actively enact measures enforce it like they did in South Africa.
Ffs they unilaterally made a literal patchwork of Bantustand reserves that had India-Pakistan tiers level of borders.
>>1101565
Smith wrote in his memoirs that he convinced as many to stay as he could so the country wouldn't suffer economically, but Mugabe gradually redistributed their land and drove whites out at gunpoint. Mugabe had all of their guns confiscated as well, including Smiths.
>>1100002
You forgot:
>Global demand in tobacco declining
>Rhodesia's main cash crop was tobacco
>Current crop fucked, no plan to transition to everything else
I wouldnt just blame politics on that one
>>1103361
My point is that we see the Roman empire as good entity,while the later colonial empires did basically the same. They exploited resources,but they also brought knowledge
>>1104777
Honestly I think Ian would've been screwed or hindered by the white voter base either way if he quashed the fighters early.
Hypothetically if he proposed to equalize the education disparites in funding that would piss the whites because their funding would be lowered.
Try to get blacks into the trades or semi skilled labour would really piss off the unions since depressing of wages.
Being near Sa assuming they kept apartheid would always provide Rhodesia the issue or being swamped by poor South Africans seeking labour and rich south Africans trying to turn Rhodesia into its bitch and puppet.
And trying to not piss off the interests of the old blood rich folk in Rhodesia because he could end up leaving his position his predecessor did.
>>1104821
It's a case by case basis.
>>1104832
It is,but you cant deny the similarities. It is obvious that the Belgian Congo wasn't treated as well,as South Africa,but the same could be said about Rome. There is not difference in what the UK did to Rhodesia,than what Rome did to Spain or Britain
>>1101741
Britain says it's territories can't just walk away, so yeah it was illegal. I hate how Retardation is a meme now. It was never funny, it's just painfull to look at.
to look at.
>>1102782
>Mugabe was communist
I remember when this board wasn't retarded beyond imagination. Go back to /pol/
>>1102930
/his/ has been infiltrated by /pol/acks and edgy 14 year olds. There is no place for people like us on this board comrade.
>>1103507
Neat
>>1101937
Do you undertand thqt life for a Black in zimbawe doesn't change since the empire do you undertand that migabe is Hitler and whites the jews and he fail in the very same way
>>1102930
>everything the communists built for them
Gulags?
>>1104169
>MUH
>PROGRESS
Whig History much?
>>1100002
Take your shitty bait back to /pol/, faggot.
>>1105139
not an argument
>>1100002
Ian Smith was just another ignorant African Warlord, who ignored the tutoring of Europeans who tried to bring him civilization, immediately got himself involved in ethnic and tribal warfare, became a pariah state, plunged his country into economic and political chaos, and lost his grip on power.
Literally Idi Amin tier.
>>1104949
>There is no place for people like us on this board comrade.
yas, fuck off back to leftpol you SJW faggot
>>1105015
I'm not the one making the >muh progress remark, the guy I was quoting was.
![Firing Line George McGovern.mp4_snapshot_34.59_[2016.05.08_17.48.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lMmR9mJ.jpg "Firing Line George McGovern.mp4_snapshot_34.59_[2016.05.08_17.48.40].jpg")
>>1103507
Just a heads up, I've uploaded that clip there alone with a few others (Enoch Powell [1969] and Oswald Mosley [1972]) so far, and will be uploading some others I have in the future, including some longer ones including Harold Macmillan, and George McGovern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pib6KSKm7gE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OzpTpvy8bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiCYbaH6j9A
>>1102902
t. kai murros
>>1101435
>South Africa is a great pre-lude of what awaits Europe.
Growth and improved standing in the world?
>>1104518
I think you mean India-Bangladesh.
>>1106079
Thanks a lot for this, I've been looking for interviews with Smith.
Here are some other good ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_x9jRYU1JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1j9UjjP3aU
>>1106259
>improved standing in the world?
Can you tell me the unemployment rate and crime rates and rape rates of South Africa pls?
>>1106361
I'd have to look it up.
