>Buys ATX full tower
>Only puts single gpu in it
>"What's an expansion card?"
These people irritate me to no end. Unless you're running some autistic 4x crossfire setup, there is no reason to use atx or eatx at all.
>>55615791
Shitloads of HDDs. mATX doesn't have that many SATA ports.
>>55615791
there are other things that go in PCI slots you know
Why pay more for less? My watercooled eatx build is as big as most matx builds.
>>55615809
Many "gamers" won't use more than one or two Tb of space.
I want a new WTX board.
>>55615837
lol'd
>>55615832
Most modern boards already have a LAN card and sound card integrated so you don't need PCI slots for that unless your an audiophile.
>>55615837
I plan on an ATX build so I can have plenty of space for anime.
>>55615884
>tfw plebs will never understand the intensity of pleasure an eargasm brings
>>55615884
>>55615903
Source?
>>55615791
I always reserve 4 of the slots for 2 gpus (if I ever find one used for cheap years later like I did with 570s and so on).
The rest I leave for raid cards because I got too many HDs (10) and 2 SSDs.
>>55615791
How many GPU's can a cross fire board run? Like one for every slot I'd imagine?
>>55615933
Wat. AMD crossfire is limited to 4 gpus in most cases...you could do that, but they won't be in crossfire
>>55615884
No true audiophile would ever use a PCI audiocard
>>55615791
Then don't buy it.
PCI wifi card
PCI SSD X2 (raid 0)
PCI GFX card X2
PCI Thunderbolt (to external dive to back up dat raid 0)
They have uses. Op may be like "i dont need it" Then dont buy it.
Why do you feel the need to bitch about people that do need and use multiple pci express ports?
>>55615949
Man they really fucked over their 7x watercooled nano crossfire userbase.
>>55615791
>I don't need it so no one else does
Fucking retard.
>>55615949
How does this then?
>>55615837
But there's no gamers here. Just look at all the GPU threads about CUDA cores and 3D rendering previews.
>>55616219
That's not SLI/Crossfire. Each GPU is controlled individually.
>>55615791
Having a large/comprehensive case is the only aspect of a PC that you can truly "Futureproof".
In summary: Fuck off. You can eat all 900 of my D's
>>55615791
> thinking people only put GPU's in PCI slots
> thinking people who play games don't also do other things on their computer
> being this stupid
>>55616274
underage b&
>>55616274
Go to the gym
>>55615911
Ultrasone Edition 10 headphone review by InnerFidelity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ
Also check out his Beats Solo review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZY0qGrA9Y
Most of his reviews are legit and normal, but he does do some like these from time to time.
>>55615949
>>55616186
>>55616219
You can only run up to four GPUs in *synchronous* operation (SLI/CF), meaning that when all contribute to rendering the same content, however, you can have up to eight GPUs running in async compute, meaning each GPU is doing it's own thing.
In Linus's setup, each GPU was virtually mapped to a separate VM, meaning that Crossfire is meaningless as none of the cards know of each others existence.
In a compute server, each GPU is also treated as a separate virtual resource, which is what allows you to utilize an unlimited number of GPUs from a server for heavy-duty rendering.
I'm upgrading from ITX to E-ATX.
How does this make you feel, OP?
>>55616434
>e-atx
>only 8 dimms
>only single processor
just burn your money, its faster
>>55616496
All 8-dimms will be occupied. Obviously so will the one CPU socket. And likely only one PCIe slot at the very bottom will go unused. Only because it'll drop performance/shares bandwidth from the M.2 slot.
>>55615809
If you don't run a NAS for bulk data (vids, mp3, backup) you're doing it wrong.
>>55615791
Dual CPU boards don't come in anything smaller than ATX.
>>55615809
Most ITX and mATX boards I've seen have 6, it's rare to see any board with less than 6.
Pic Related. this board fills my case quite nicely, it's a shame the expansion layout is so horrible.
>>55616598
That's pretty neato. Any plans for a custom water-loop?
>>55616609
When I have $300 to spend on something that improves performance by very little or not at all.
The original point of this post was not to bash people who actually need expansion cards to run. I just hate people like this who absolutely waste all that extra space. http://pcpartpicker.com/b/sgRBD3#partlist
Also, I didn't know intel made water cooling kits. They must be shit.
>5 5.25" bays
>6 3.5" bays
>more than two pci expansion slots
crusty cumstained neckbeards
>>55616846
That's hilarious. Like the m-ITX in the same case meme.
Most AIO's are OEM from ASETEK, so, it's likely just as fine as something like the "Corsair H80" with an equivalent fan.
>Pic is apparently an ITX board in a 760T full tower.
>>55616274
>fat
>underage
yep, /g/
>>55617031
someone post the image of the mITX system in that bigass corsair tower that was watercooled.
>>55617088
>>55616574
what makes anything a NAS, calling it that makes you sound old
2016 any directory can be mapped to the internet with security from any computer with internet
>>55617088
>>55617139
That's the Cooler Master Cosmos II, same case as the link in this post: >>55616846
Fucking pointless to do this lol
>>55615791
ยตATX mobos with decent build quality cost more than ATX mobos with decent build quality. You end up paying more for less.
>>55617157
>>55617139
Oh, I thought it was corsair. Glad to know at least someone had it though.
I dont get the mindset though of insisting on the installation of an ITX board in a full tower other than it being a troll build.
>>55616535
I got that same case. It's legit.
>>55615809
My matx board has 10 ports, how many do you need? Jesus, man.
>>55617139
>tripple rad
>push pull
>1 CPU
for what purpose?
>>55617242
It had to be just for the picture. I hope that wasn't a seriously/finished rig.
>>55617350
This is the glass panel version. It's pretty bad ass.
>>55615791
ATX is mostly cheaper , also more Sata ports, and every gamer dreams of "buying a second GPU" down the road, but 90% don't do it
>>55616598
which phanteks case is that?
>>55617608
Enthoo Pro
>PCI Thunderbolt (to external dive to back up dat raid 0)
Raid 0 is saying I don't care about recovering data. Just fuck it up whenever.
>>55617607
>>>55615791 (OP)
>ATX is mostly cheaper , also more Sata ports, and every gamer dreams of "buying a second GPU" down the road, but 90% don't do it
Truth. By the time the card comes down in price to consider buying the next gen is already outpacing your 2x cards.
Plus all the shit that comes with sli/crossfire I never want to deal with again. Sorry, not willing to wait for a patch to stop any new game from hitching
>>55617607
You can run dual cards on mATX anyway.
There are uses for PCI slots other than graphics cards. Using two GPU's on mATX usually blocks all the slots.
>>55617557
I just got the one with the window. I was looking at the full clear side panel, but it looked like it would get dirty easily.
>>55617880
There really aren't any other uses. Unless you need a RAID card, but I think that's a questionable choice.
>>55617950
Sound cards, capture cards, network cards, shall I go on?
>>55618096
All motherboards have built in network, sound cards are obsolete, capture card is even more niche than RAID card.
>>55618152
What if I want more network ports and a wireless connection, or a 10GbE Copper connection? What if the onboard sound fails or I need a more fully featured sound card with higher sampling frequencies?
>>55615837
i have like 11tb of storage with about 8tb used up
i'm a bit of a data hoarder
mATX and ATX cases cost around the same, so why not just go for the bigger one?
>>55615837
It's the opposite, most gamers never fucking ever uninstall anything and wind up filling drive after drive after drive. This is at least true for most of my friends.
>>55618175
All of those are very rare needs and if you combine them with the fact that most people who think "o I'm gonna get SLI" never do, you end up with having that free slot anyway.
I mean obviously if you actually know you need all that crap, you ought to get a bigger board.. but I don't think that's typical. I use a sound card but only a single graphics card on a mATX board. I also thought of getting a RAID card for a hardware raid 5 and I have a free slot for that but the price just isn't worth it.
>>55615791
>My favourite gayming motherboard doesent come in itx size
>mpower z97 + 4790k for less than 400
>favourite case (H440)
>at the time a cheap bundled pack
>fuckton of hdd's
>SLI gtx980's and 970's, some 680's and R9 290's because why the fuck not, science
>theme build
>custom waterloop
now it's a clusterfuck, sold my 1070 for a profit and took apart my waterloop and lending friend's H110i GT
>>55618231
>SLI gtx980's and 970's, some 680's and R9 290's because why the fuck not, science
pardon?
>>55615809
>tfw my ATX case only has room for 4 drives
>>55618708
This is why we invented tape. Glue some SSDs to your back panel.
>>55618760
But then he'll be laughed at in muh guts threads
>>55615791
I haven't found an mATX case that I like. Everything only comes with a window. That Silverstone inverted mATX case has a top fan filter that sticks out way too much. If there was an mATX R5 then I would have gone mATX.
>>55618786
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-mini
There is an R4.
>>55615791
>not having a second GPU and NIC for PCI passthrough to a VM
>not having serial ports
![7_04[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/t2pbiPy.png "7_04[1].png")
>>55618708
Mine holds 6. There's also a hotswap dock at the top
>>55618832
>trying to sound smart when you own a windforce GPU
>>55618812
If it was an R5, I would have bought it.
>>55615837
i play games and only have a 512 ssd
>>55618865
What?
>>55615809
mITX can do like 8
>>55615837
No gamer does. Games don't take that much space and you can just uninstall the ones you aren't playing. I have 9.5TB of space in a mATX case tho.
>>55615884
What are pci-e ssds, sata/sas host adapters, usb 3.1 addon cards, 10GbE lan cards, 4 port 1GbE lan card?
Why? So you can use your shitbox computer as server/nas or as a router/firewall or both.
>>55618392
Drugs man
what i meant was that me and my friends trade around/lend various components for pc's and when i get a chance i sli/cf gpus
>>55615791
yeah, they're the autists, and you're the one making a thread about it
:^)
What's the fastest emoji expansion card?
>>55615809
1) buy mATX motherboard
2) buy PCIe SATA controller
3) ???
4) profit
>>55615837
who the fuck cares about games?
>>55619443
PCI-E expansion card users.
>>55616598
>Dual CPU boards don't come in anything smaller than ATX.
Mainly, this
In my case i need to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card and put the WiFi one
>>55617149
Yeah, but then your data isn't available for other devices like your media center when your gaming PC is turned off.
>tfw mini-ATX board cost just as much as regular ATX for socket 2011-3
at least you get more fan connectors on ATX
>>55620073
That's because mATX for 2011-3 is insane miniaturization. It's not easy to get that socket on a board that small. The only thing more insane is ITX 2011-3, which I believe only ASRock has tried.
>>55619547
No fans in the back?
My i5 2400 hits 75+ with new paste.
Can't attach a cooler with backplate since some of the motherboard screws are fucked.
>>55620130
I don't have 80mm fans, this case is temporal until I can afford a Nanoxia Deep Silence 2. It was the case of my first PC. Max temp reached was 68ยบ while playing Fallout 4, they're 6-core xeons at low speed, so is not that bad
>>55620124
Didn't shuttle have a lga 2011 board for their enclosures?
Wait no that was extended dtx, shitty board awesome formfactor for gaming computer builds
>>55619984
>turning your gaming PC off
>not just setting it into a low-power state
kekkerino, i bet daddy doesn't let you keep the electronics on because "muh power bills"
>>55617950
Its not really about what cards you're going to put in there on day one. It's the cards you'll use to avoid having to buy a whole new rig for some incremental upgrade. My first gen i7 build didn't have USB 3 or SATA 3 because they weren't things yet. Now it does and I can defer expensive upgrades for another few years. If you're spending your own money this matters.
>>55616434
Dude you should sell me your ncase m1
>>55620863
Mine doesn't have those features either, but I don't need them. For SATA3 to make sense, you need SSDs and even then I've found that SSDs are a perfectly good upgrade even on SATA1. Not perfect, but good enough. Certainly not worth buying an additional SATA card for.
USB3 I don't know about, I've not found a single USB3 device so far. I bought a SATA hotswap bay for HDDs so external HDDS aren't very interesting.
>>55620935
You can get a SATA 3 card for 12 bucks. A USB 3 card for 25. If you use flash drives, USB 3 speeds life up quite a bit. You're right about needing an SSD to make use of SATA 3, but SSDs have been the biggest every day performance boost in a long time, so its not an uncommon bar for people to clear anymore.
Extra slots are handy.
>>55615791
>you only need a bed / kitchen / loo to survive
why are you not living in a trailer? only people who have 2 kids need 3 bedrooms and 3 toilets and should own a condo.
>you only need potato and milk to stay alive
why are you eating steak / cereals / ice cream then? Only if you are allergic to potatoes and milk should you try other alternative
fucking autistic faggot. i can't have it so others who have it and not using it to it's full potential is a moron. this is what you sound like OP
>>55620935
>>55621240
Found sata2 ssd is plenty of performance for me, got a usb3 add in card for my plethora of external drives, also on a first gen i7 here. Had to buy a nic as the one on my mobo broke also. Trouble is my board only had 2x pcie1x slots.
>>55621240
I put a SSD on a SATA1 link and it's really good. My old ass laptop boots in seconds and all programs start quickly. The thing that it really speeds up is the random reads. The max throughput afforded by SATA3 is less relevant in my opinion.
I'm going to upgrade from my first gen i5 in a few days though. The thing that broke the camels back for me was the performance in 7zip and encoding not features such as SATA3 or USB3. It took too freaking long to 7zip and encode files.
>>55618865
> thinking using acronyms making you sound smart
>>55621331
Yeah the first generation i5/i7s have been amazingly long lasting. I'm not sure what will force my hand. My next upgrade will probably be a better display and graphics card. If PCI 2.0 can carry the current graphics cards well enough, I don't see anything on the horizon forcing me to upgrade.
>>55616598
>enermax fan
brofist
>>55621385
what?
>>55615837
I'm running a 1 ter system disk a 640 storage disk and both are more full than I'd like. I'm thinking I'm going to go with a 2 ter storage disk and then a larger SSD for system disk when I do my upgrades.
