New Mouse Guide /g/uys! I hope you enjoy it! Let me know if I'm missing anything. There are a couple mice I couldn't find pics for, but they are included in the compilation link at the bottom, so hopefully that helps!
This mouse guide is not worth the pixel its rendered on
My deathadder 3500 is still pretty good
>>55612329
>All that Logitech in God Tier
>>55612377
Enjoy your inferior sensor and click latency cuck
>>55612386
That's so marginal it hurts.
>>55612329
Add the kone xtd please.
>>55612383
>Sorry Logitech had a domination of the market for a year with them licensing the Pixart PMW 3360 (in their case the 3366) before anyone could use it until their license ended or if the other companies wanted to pay a lot of money to Logitech.
>Intellimouse
Nice.
>3.0
Eugh.
is G402 bad?
SS Rival 300 is only in decent tier because of its build quality, right?
>>55612417
pics and link me specs please and I'll consider adding it
>>55612429
See if you can try them out.
I was skeptical about the G502 (coming from a G500) because of how edgy it looks but I'm glad I bought it, they didn't make it for you to stare at, they're made to fit your hand comfortably.
>>55612429
What's the G402 sensor? And no, the Rival 300 is in decent tier because of it's Sensor, I created this tier list based on sensor accuracy because of FPS and RTS games, but also who doesn't want a mouse with high accuracy and no acceleration or prediction?!
>zowie in decent tier, not god tier
>all those literal who and neo-logishit in god tier
>>55612489
Tell Zowie to step up their game and get with the times and update all their mice with the Pixart PMW 3360 and Omron Switches for the buttons.
>>55612472
>>55612487
I'm still using G400s, dunno if I should go with 502/402 or Rival.
I thought Rival 100 has the inferior sensor among the other Rivals while 300 and 700 has the same.
Is my mouse God Tier?
>>55612536
that thing is an antique get with the times grandpa
>>55612536
You're absolutely right it is, brother.
>>55612536
Is it a MLT04 Sensor? Than yes it is, when it comes to tracking, unless you reach over a certain amount of speed when moving the mouse around the mousepad, basically FPS or RTS games.
>>55612527
The 300 has one of the sensors mentioned in the asterisk, the 700 has the updated sensor that is superior to the 100 and 300.
>>55612471
8200DPI R3 sensor with 41 true DPI setting ranging from 200 to 8200DPI
8 mouse buttons with 4D wheel+a button that when held down, gives a secondary action to all other mouse buttons (this button can be configured to do anything, as is the case with the others)
It has several weight adjustments depending on whether you like a light or heavy mouse
Lots of customization, you can do pretty much anything you want with any of the buttons and the lights etc.
Cable is well-made, doesn't do any annoying shit as you're moving the mouse
Biggest downside imo is the gaymer shit but it's a bit more subdued compared to some other models like g502. Also the logo in the palm area has eroded over the past 2 years that I've had it, 75% is still there though.
If you want more tech specs, see:
>>55612471
Also have a pic. I have one on my desk but it's dark and I'm lazy. Could take a few pics anyway if you want
this thread pretty much solidifies /g/ as the most ignorance board when it comes to technology
do you morons actually read shit or do you just echo whatever goes on in other forums?
>>55612602
Shape and feel is the most important thing for me honestly. Sensor wank isn't really important.
I want the shills to leave
>>55612329
Outline the difference b/t 3360/3366 & 3310 within 5 minutes
>protip: You can't. Because you're a fucking moron who saves tier pics without knowing shit about the underlying techs
>purchased a corsair scimitar because i still play wow in 2016
did i fuck up
>>55612588
>>55612595
This doesn't really tell me what sensor it has, but from what I read quickly on the internet it looks like it uses either a 3988 or 3310 for the optical one, so it'll be in the decent tier.
>>55612386
>using the cuck meme
>>55612643
Enjoy not reading the links at the bottom of the list and I didn't save this picture cuck, I made it faggot.
>>55612588
http://www.pcgameware.co.uk/reviews/mouse-reviews/roccat-kone-xtd-mouse-review/
Forgot link. Also there's an optical version that I don't have and can't speak for. Uses an s3988 sensor
>>55612329
>calls it a guide
>doesn't even specify which OS's they work with
wew lad
>>55612698
>I'm a parrot
>swark swark
o ok
could just say you're absolutely uneducated and you literally don't have an informed opinion
i didnt think it was possible but this guide is even shittier than the last
>>55612728
Pics of the last please?
>>55612677
What sensor does it have? Because that's apparently the only thing that matters.
>>55612714
Not sure how much it matters but it has great linux support, open-source drivers on their site etc.
Too bad G900 costs a fucking kidney
![1458030442441[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JZy3AQ0.png "1458030442441[1].png")
>>55612749
this one was hot garbage but its funny how the dumbass OP just added a bunch of shit mice with muh pixart
>>55612329
>still no Roccat mice
why
>>55612723
Here you go faggot, do some reading and educate yourself.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1598692/3366-3360-vs-3310
>>55612787
What's the point of tiers when there's only two?
>>55612560
Just wish that the next Rival they release has none of this vibration thingy so they have a reason to jack up it's price.
>>55612800
Those descriptors are audiophile-tier.
>>55612787
Most of the mice added the "Muh Pixart" along with Omron switches, so what else would you like to consider for God Tier? Aesthetics and how it feels in your hand is dependent on the user, so suck a dick faggot and enjoy a tier list with updated mice that actually can compete with Logishills shit mice. Fucking that diamond shape G303 and cyborg G502
>>55612800
>literally googled "3366 vs 3310"
I'm convinced you actually believe that anyone buys into your shit.
>>55612536
Do you get zapped by your keyboard from time to time? I leave mine on 24/7, coming home from work I usually have to discharge it.
>>55612836
>g900
>corsair
he actually did it, he actually saves all those "rec" pics and buy accordingly
holy shit it's only a meme dude stop
>>55612329
You must be joking...
Search Mouse Guide 2.0
What about my Razor Naga guys? Is it cool?
>>55612329
get out of here with this /v/idiot crap.
Someone post mouses which are actually useful to people who use their computer for things.
>>55612875
What sensor does it have?
Who /party/ here?
this isnt a mouse guide
its a sensor guide with the intellimouse still circlejerked in god tier for whatever reason
>>55612892
Does it have a 3366?
>>55612864
>g900
Come on guy, at least try. Once you've gotten used to the infinite scrolling you won't be able to live without it, been using the G500 for 4 years before it half died.
>corsair
Well would you rather have me buy something from Razer? Because that's the only alternative I have otherwise I will be paying an arm and a let to ship one of the keyboards which are /g/ approved and validated, when in the end they're just all the same cherry mx switches.
>>55612892
Dude, you have no idea how hard I lold
literally
>>55612892
INTELLIMOUSE EXPLORER is the best fucking mouse ever.
>>55612892
>>55612943
Reminds me of nigge.rs
>>55612922
are you an aussie or something?
filco is fulfilled by amz prime
uguu
yeah but which one is cheapest m8
>>55612329
I just bought a g900 and the dongle broke after a day.
Shitty logicool tech support is taking forever to get back to me too.
I'd buy one if I could.
Thinking about get a Corsair M65, currently using the evga torq x10 carbon that I bought years ago for the pre order price, not a big fan of ambidextrous mice though.
>>55612884
>Thinking tracking accuracy isn't important for people "who use their computer for things".You're such a faggot Anon
>>55612329
Where does my Logitech g402 stand? It's apparently the cheaper version of the 502?
The Zowie FK was shilled to have a perfect sensor. What happened?
>>55612329
Gaming mice are a scam, I prefer my $15 wireless mouse over $200 mice with retarded wide bases and too many buttons, I have a keyboard for buttons and I use it because I'm not jacking off and playing with one hand. 2 AAA batteries last a month and a half in my mouse with heavy 10+ hrs of gaming use a day.
![CjgwtREUoAEUZ57[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yGqzFEx.jpg "CjgwtREUoAEUZ57[1].jpg")
>>55613054
>and the dongle broke after a day.
How did you manage that?
>>55613467
G402 has the same sensor as the G100s and it has been problematic IIRC.
>>55613467
AM010 laser sensor, it's decent but not not God Tier.
Read more here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1504917/logitech-g402-hyperion-fury-gaming-mouse-review-by-ino
>>55613514
use a more expensive wireless dude
the ones that don't need batteries
>>55613528
I forgot to post pic of my mouse this is all I need not more expensive like seriously I take 20seconds to change out batteries every month and a half and not wait for charging
>>55613495
logitech went the way of steelseries and razer with aggressive marketing and paid shills
zowie cant compete with that
>>55613555
My MX Master can go 40 days without a charge, longer since I only use it with my laptop too.
>>55613562
Logitech have the largest and best facilities for mouse r&d. They are the JBL Professional of mice.
>>55613574
>Longer since I only use it with my laptop
You mean shorter if you're ONLY using it with your laptop and not your desktop also a month and a half is 50 days
50>40
>>55613604
I mean in the sense that it lasts more days because of irregular use.
>>55613618
That doesn't make sense, you use it less so therefore it would last longer if you used it all the time?
>>55613633
>you use it less so therefore it would last longer if you used it all the time?
Not sure how you came to that backwardass conclusion.
Should probably label that chart “Gaming Mouse Guide” since nobody who doesn’t play video games gives a shit about those criteria
I bought an MX Master without even considering latency or tracking speed since I knew it would be at least acceptable. I wouldn’t trade it for every mouse in the top row if I actually had to use them.
>>55613647
That's what you said
>Irregular use lasts longer
You say you only use it sometimes and that it could last longer so it makes it better than my mouse that lasts 50 days with very heavy use everyday.
>>55613574
>JBL Professional of mice
>>55613669
>so it makes it better than my mouse that lasts 50 days with very heavy use everyday.
I said nothing of the sort.
>>55613697
Name a loudspeaker manufacturer with bigger and better r&d.
>>55613699
>Implied
Then why did you mention your battery life?
>>55613717
It wasn't implied at all, you seem to be putting words into my mouth because you think I'm trying to argue with you.
>Then why did you mention your battery life?
Because it's impressive for a mouse of its caliber.
>>55613668
>Not giving a shit about Tracking Accuracy
Ok Anon, continue being a faggot than
>>55613730
K then
>>55613713
Logitech
JBL is awesome, bad analogy though.
How does the G400 stack up against these new mice?
>>55613774
Find out what sensor it is and compare it to the chart, if it's not on the chart, it's shit tier.
>>55612329
Missing the M705 in God Tier.
>>55613732
With this mouse I have never felt any dissatisfaction at how it tracks, and I don’t even use a mouse pad at the moment. I have a 275 PPI monitor and it’s accurate enough to do image editing on the pixel level at 100% zoom.
The idea that I’d prioritize whether or not it tracks well if I swing it around as fast as I can when I never need to do that over two scroll wheels, automatic ratcheting, three buttons, superior software, and wireless functionality is retarded.
>>55613793
sorry, four extra buttons
>>55613745
>bad analogy though.
How so?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxw-pX4dak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwrkXSO4788
>>55612329
>if it looks like a beta nerd "cool" mouse then it is good
fuck your shit, logitech mx is god tier
half of that list is shit senpai aside from like a deathadder
>>55612329
I'm glad I got a g400 before they replaced it with those ugly ass mice
>>55613793
This tier list isn't determined how fast you can move your mouse and how accurate it keeps track of your movement. But rather how accurate the sensor is regardless of how fast your move it. The Intellimouse doesn't have accurate tracking above 54 inches/sec. but it's still god tier for the same reason the other mice are, because of how accurate it tracks your movement and how it has no acceleration or prediction.
You're probably someone who uses windows and doesn't turn off enhance pointer precision and doesn't set their mouse cursor to 6/11. Enjoy your shit mouse settings.
>>55613846
Enjoy your inferior mouse sensor and shit switches Anon. Continue being a pleb!
>>55612329
>no Ducky Secret
LOL
Go back to funnyjunk.com and don't post on /g/ again.
>>55613521
Unplugged it to charge, then plugged it back in and it did a crazy connect disconnect cycle like a dozen times then shut off completely.
Now when I plug the dongle in nothing happens.
A little bit of googling seems to show it happens sometimes.You can buy replacement dongles in the states even, but not here.
I love the mouse though. Really impressed with logicool actually. I picked up a G13 on prime day for $70 and it is pretty awesome too.
>>55614005
>logicool
Are you living in Japan or something you filthy weeaboo.
you put zowie mice in a low tier because of a problem they fixed?
>>55614028
Yes, sorry.
Forgot it was called Logitech in the states. Logicool is such a terrible name.
>>55613997
Oh cool, Ducky secret uses one of the sensors listed on the tier list, therefore it's included.
>Continue being a dumbfuck Anon
>>55614042
I put Zowie in low tier because they haven't updated their sensors like the rest of the mice on the market, eventually Zowie will come out with a mouse with a Pixart 3360 Sensor, but until then they are lower tier. Deal with it Anon.
>>55614042
This thread is pure sensor wank with no regard to other critical aspects of the mouse.
any experts think this is a good mouse? used to use one then the scroll wheel went full cuck and stopped moving but was god tier in gaming. havent seen them sold anywhere even their own website since i got one.
this thread is awful
if you don't play fps or rts games then buy whatever you feel like it doesn't matter
if you do and need a mouse for it then anything on this list is acceptable
http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-20/
>>55614086
Such as Anon....?
If you're considering switches, most of these mice have the same identical Omron switches.
If you're talking about how it feels in your hand, well guess what cuck, that varies from person to person and doesn't matter shit in the tier list. I'm just listing mice that actually have the best sensors on the market and people can decide what they want from there. So guess what Anon...Fuck off faggot
What's wrong with g402? Using mx518 atm, figured it's time to buy something new, the age is showing.
>G700s not in the list
I'm embarassed
>>55614144
>Weight
>Balance
>Cable
>Customizability
>Software
>Button placement and feel
>Feet quality and smoothness
>Build quality
>Scroll wheel
>Grippiness
>Grip versatility
It's short-sighted to base judgments on whether or not a mouse has this exact sensor that has a marginal difference compared to its predecessor.
>>55612329
Okay so I should replace my Sensei Raw with a DM1 Pro S? The size is roughly the same yeah?
>>55612329
Why the Logitech M500 isn't on this chart?
>inexpensive
>good construction quality
>comfortable
>five buttons plus lateral wheel buttons
>free wheel switch. Seriously, this is awesome.
>not gayming bullshit
>literally the best mouse you can get for that price range
>>55612329
I have a g600 where am i on the scale
>>55612329
>most of the ones on top haven't even been released
>acts like sensor guarantees a good mouse (it doesn't, shitty firmware or build can still fuck it up
Not like new shit makes that much of an difference. Tracking rates of a3090s were already good enough,
Anything wrong with the g400s?
what should i buy from pic related
tried a steelseries mouse that had very similar shape to steelseries rival and it was super comfortable to use
palm grip, low profile shape/MWO-like shape, decent sensor.
dont want to overpay for any gimmicks
>>55615779
my eyes... are you trolling? might as well book a flight to chinatown and buy spare parts
just get a steelseries sensei raw rubberized, it's less than 50 bucks/euros
have some self-respect and choose one, ideally two steps above what you're aiming for
>>55615852
>might as well book a flight to chinatown and buy spare parts
what do you mean
i don't want to spend much more than 30€
i spent many months now with a Logitech B100 office mouse, i think basically anything will feel like an improvement
>>55615671
Looks nice, are the buttons easy to press(i mean not like those shitty omrons or whatever they use in gaming mices) like the others M mouses?
>>55615779
Fuck man, increase your budget a little bit. You don't have to get the newest $200 Razer but you're gonna have to spend a bit more than ~$30 for a good quality, lasting and comfortable mouse
>>55615779
Go with the NOX Koban Raton
>cheap
>uses the exact same shell as >>55615707 which is very comfy.
>a3050 is considered one of the top tier sensors like 5 years ago and is still pretty decent now.
>>55615912
for real? man... i just dont want to spend a lot in a mouse that i havent even tried with my own hands
wouldnt want spending that much money on something that could not feel right for me
>>55615932
ill check out a few reviews, thanks for the recommendation friend
raton stands for mouse by the way heheh
>>55615981
You could also go with a logitech m100 if you dont need extra buttons, comfy and cheap
>>55615981
Yeah, I'd say if you spend ~$60 (50 EU?) any mouse you get will be better than the ones you picked out, and will last longer comfortably.
If you're fine with more regular replacements then go for one of the ones you shown, but I'll be surprised if they're anywhere near as good as they were with a year of use.
>>55612329
>tfw like how the deathadder feels under my hand
>tfw I don't consider buying it because of the edgy gaymer green logo and lightning.
>tfw I'm not ready to spend that much for a mice since I only use my mouse for browsing the internet.
I'll keep my mouse from 2004. It used to be white but because of the sunlight it became sorta yellowing.
>A E S T H E T I C
>>55612329
>No MX518
Dropped
>>55612836
punch a radiator to discharge before sitting down at your pc
I really like the simple look of the zowies, but my fingers are pretty long and I'm afraid they seem too light. Anyone care to comment?
>>55615779
Get the Gigabyte M6900 I've been using it for years and it's good enough for gaming. At least the level I game on
>>55612329
>God Tier
>gimmicky shit with blue leds and sharp edges
kill yourself
Mines a logitech G300 pls r8
>>55612329
general threads should be banned. It's always "I'm an autistic opinionated faggot" - the thread.
>>55612386
Implying cuck is a bad fetish
The guilty pleasure is diamond hardon factory but the regret and shame after it :/
post your mouse's tracking speed
rate
hate
appreciate
I ordered a Razer Deathadder 3.5g from ali for $25. Why's it bad again, i only used $5 up until now.
>>55616130
They're average in size - 120-128mm. Personally I opt for Steelseries and their long ass 140mm+ mouses.
>>55616344
>from ali
gg
>>55616357
you can register it's serial number on razer's website, it's genuine. The other 450 people who bought it can't be wrong
>mfw I bought 4 g400s because I love my g400 and it is still working just fine
>>55616398
>Bought one G400 for my dad as a birthday gift cuz he was using some shitty $5 mouse in his office
>Shit broke 2 months later
I dunno wtf. I don't have a good opinion about Logitech recently. They used to make great bang for the buck products but nowadays they're both overpriced and underwhelming.
I just bought a G502 around 1 month ago
the thing is, the left click button sometimes kinda jammed, have you guys experienced something quite like that? Should I return it or what?
>>55616431
My g400 have like 6 years of daily 8/16 hours use and still working flawless
The cable is shit tho, i wonder how many years the other 4 400s will last me
>>55612329
just buy Apple Magic Trackpad
hello
>>55616010
i think i have basically the same shell in my Logitech B100, but the shape is not for me, a bit too small and high for my liking
>>55616064
allright, maybe i should wait a bit, but even if i do get a more expensive mouse in the future, i would like a cheaper "good" mouse for reference before that, to compare if anything
Guys, i need you help, what mouse do you recommend to a Logitech g9 user (claw grip all the way).
Kinda missing the MX master on there.
Looking for a mouse with low LOD, claw grip, adjustable DPI, no gimmicky LEDs and requires no driver's. Are Zowie mice the only solution?
>>55612429
G402 has no place in anywhere than shittier mice.
It has a LOT of jitter problems (mine included):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbaY_NlRD-Y
>Very fast movements drag the crosshair / cursor downwards slowly
>Sometimes skips a few pixels
This said, it has no pos/neg accel
I got mine as warranty from G400 with broken cord, I'd say G402 is a downgrade from G400.
tested on following mousepads:
Razer Goliathus Speed
SS QCK+
GLORIOUS EXTENDED GAMING MOUSE MAT - 36X11"
t. Cs 1.6 / CSGO player @ 1.5 sens 800dpi
>logikek gaymen shit
>not shit tier
>>55617299
>Logitech g9 user (claw grip all the way).
Claw/fingertip grip people seldom get mice designed for us. Seems like G9x was the last major model for it, and even that was mediocre for it (still very back heavy, and the thumb buttons are not placed well for it). Mice designers just can't wrap their retarded heads around people holding a mouse differently.
I can understand the lack of them available since they're both not very popular styles, but to make a mouse to cater to this crowd and still fuck it up is beyond dumb.
aye, why do logitech stuff breaks so easy
i have a logitech usb wheel and it kinda broke !
i also have logitech gamepads and they both broke the external plastic of the cord in the gamepad's end, ultimately stopped working
whats up with that chink build quality
>>55615779
Get this. The best mouse you will ever use.
>>55617299
I switched to an FK1 (new version) about 8 months ago without too much of a problem but I don't think anything will ever feel as comfy as the g9 did. I'm more of a "fingertip" grip though if you go by the strict descriptions.
>>55612536
>Is my mouse God Tier?
I have one and I am reminded how great optical lasers got since then when I tried to use it on a shiny desk.
>>55616341
Mine's better.
>>55617806
whats the name of that program for testing and diagnosis of mice
>>55617822
Enotus Mouse Test
>>55612329
>Zowie mice in decent tier
>all those ugly as shit mice in god tier
what the fuck is this chart? who made this pile of shit? please never use this image again
What the best budget mouse?
>>55612329
kys faggot
This is in fact the worst mouse guide yet. I urge you to put it on the /g/ wiki if you haven't already.
Been using the amazon.de only roccat kone pure black optical edition. It has a pmw3310, pretty much a military edition with a better shell, and unique drivers. The unique drivers actually get rid of the click delay which was a problem with the military, to lower than g300 levels. Very light, took a bit of getting used to with my big hands. The driver manager is a bit of a meme with the voice for changing DPI and the trophy system, other than that it's great.
>>55612329
I JUST WANT A NEW INTELLIMOUSE BUT THEY'RE FUCKING £50 NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55617831
I don't know but the dude is super defensive and butthurt if you question his decision to put Zowie mice in "decent" tier because they don't have a sensor that's as good as the new PixArt one supposedly. (Would like to see some proof of this desu)
I got a Zowie FK2 some days ago, I find it very good for FPS games honestly. I used to play with a Logitech G600 before, I liked it, but it didn't respond very well to my Qck mousepad and it was a bit too heavy and big for me.
>>55616311
Ok. This isn't a general thread.
>>55615671
I don't like the weight and balance. It's heavier than my Deathadder for some reason and it's back heavy.
>>55618092
Is the mouse suitable for claw grip?
>>55612329
>3360/3366
Ah yes. The four way SLI of mouse sensors. If you hate money you could but why the fuck would you?
>>55618207
The FK is actually designed specifically for claw grip.
FK1 is bigger, FK2 is smaller.
>>55618207
I have a claw grip and it works very well.
what's a suitable replacement for a Logitech g500? the spring in my left-click button has deteriorated and I'm toying with the idea of just buying a replacement instead of fixing it
was looking at picking up a g500s, can't say I really like the new logitech series as they just look to edgy for me
I've gone from a g5 (~6 years) -> g500 (~4 years)
How much of a meme is the Rival 700? I've been using the Zowie AM for about 4 years but it finally decided to stop working properly, are the other Zowie mouses good?
What's the difference on all the same model Zowie mice? Size?
>>55618496
Zowie FK1, FK2, EA-2.
>>55618681
Yes.
>microsoft intellimeme
>implying the minute sensor improvement in those memey logitech robot cocks are worth the awful ergonomics
>>55617838
M500
>>55618228
>>55618356
Thanks senpaitachi.
I'm looking for a comfy mouse to play osu! with. I'm getting cramped hands with my CM Storm Recon. And I can't stand the fucking LEDs on that thing.
>>55619217
One more huge advantages of Zowie: no retarded drivers.
>>55612386
"click latency"
YOU FUCKING AUTISTS AREN'T ANYWHERE THAT GOOD. STOP PAYING MORE FOR FUCKING MEMES WTF
>>55619616
Also that. I tried configuring the Recon mouse on the family machine because I run GNU/Linux, but it needs the driver to activate your set configuration on boot. That's why I'd really like to have a mouse that I can configure without drivers.
you forgot one OP
but ya Logitech is best
pls remove anything thermal take/ttesports. they are a garbage chink company and everything they make is /CSG/ tier
You didn't even mention the one mouse that is worth recommending. Try again, I guess.
>>55612329
I've been planning on getting a good mouse, price doesn't matter. Do you think the Zowie EC2-A is good?
My mouse has the most useless feature of all time.
>>55619752
https://youtu.be/ug9ZoNB1UNk
>>55612536
Its eldergod
>>55619794
I don't have sound at the moment, but yeah I'll be using it for FPS. I hope its sensor works well and doesn't get stuck when moving the mouse very fast.
But is there anything better?
>>55619791
It is also starting to look like shit, i bet it would look better if i peeled all the disgusting fake chrome off and just have a semi transparent thing instead.
>>55612429
It's shit.
>5 years ago
>buy G400
>it has angle snapping but it's okay
>cable failure
>Logitech sends me a G400S for free
>I use this now
>suddenly
>cable failure
>Logitech sends me a G402 for free
>it looks exactly like a madcatz RAT
>repair cables of my mice by tugging the cable deeper into the housing
>stops shorting
1 good mouse
1 slightly flawed mouse
and one madcatz clone
for the price of $40
>>55619835
I'm the guy looking at the FK2.
The guy said it was his favorite mouse for Quake Live until he got the FK2. He looks very competent so I trust him on his word.
He says the sensor Zowie mice use have no abnormalities when twitch aiming.
>>55619936
Hmm I'll be using it for CS:GO, but what about the logitec mouses on the chart? Are they better or just taste? To be honest I just need something that has 5 buttons and a sensor that won't fail me (like the mazer did by e-blue)
But also like, the ec2 doesn't have a braided wire, I wonder if it at least has usb3.0.
>>55619997
The guy also has reviewed some Logitech mice. It uses an "improved" sensor compared to Zowie mice. Personally I don't like the look and form of Logitech mice. Some swear by Logitech mice, some hate them.
Why do you want USB 3.0 on a mouse?
picked up one of these great for mmo gaming and definitely keeps up with fps as well
>>55620086
I'll check it out when I get home and decide when to buy it.
I don't know, is 3.0 only for data transfer? Doesn't it also help the speed / less input lag?
>>55612677
nahh i use this mouse too for wow and i love it
>>55620086
Oh and I have checked what the pros use, most of them use the steelseries mice, where NEO just uses ec2. You think the steelseries are good compared to logitec?
>Ctrl + F
>Mionix
>0 results
I'm out, fa/g/s.
>>55620178
USB3.0 allows for higher bandwidth and more amps. None of the above apply for a mouse. If you want zero delay, get a PS2 mouse.
>>55620211
Keep in mind that most pro gamers are sponsored. I've never bothered with steelseries. They look less flashy and more comfy, but AFAIK still require drivers to be configured.
>>55619791
Who thought this was a good idea
>>55612329
>No MX1000 in god tier
It's like you don't know what you're talking about
>>55620159
>a shittier clone of razer naga
>having a queer looking mouse makes you god-tier
>>55619714
Zowie is great in that regard. One thing one should consider before buying a Zowie mouse is that clicks are a bit noisy, at least they're surely noisier than the Logitech G600. I personally enjoy the tactile feedback of the Zowie better than the one of the G600, but it's purely subjective. As for click latency, is this even an issue? Zowie FK2 has barely none for what I can see.
>>55612595
I had one, tracking is fine, but the scroll wheel is shit. Feels moist and doesn't grip your finger well. Plus no tilt wheel. I'd rate it 6/10. My fav is the Logitech G9x which is pretty much perfect.
>>55612901
Agreed. If you prefer fingertip grip, only a few of these mice are better than shit tier.
>>55617299
Just keep your g9, or go to a g9x.
>>55617951
>mouse achievements
>driver software required for full functionality
gtfo.
>>55612499
but Huano switches are better
>>55613495
I'm pretty sure that FK does have a perfect sensor, unless someone wants to show me some proof to the contrary. Seems like basically these new guides have been prepared by Logitech shills, and not very subtly.
>>55612329
this one is even worse than the last honestly.
>>55618431
I went with a 500s when my right click started getting unreliable.
The only noticeable difference for me was the scroll wheel being less sharp with its rolling.
I haven't tried the 502, the edge scared me off and I got the 500s at a great price at the time.
>>55612418
its still shit
>>55612429
I have the rival 300 and no complaints whatsoever. Love that thing and at its current price point is probably the best bang for your buck.
>>55612329
>Logitech gaymen mouse in godtier
>No Mionix Naos 7000 On list
Logitech is shit and ugly af.
>>55612499
>Falling for those meme sensors and switches
Shit don't make a difference fampai. Do you get paid to play DotA 2 or CS:GO? If not then stfu
>tfw my MX Masters gesture button is broken and permanently depressed now [spoiler] like me :^( [/spoiler]
Apart from that is truly is a 10/10 mouse
>g502
stopped reading there. the only saving grace of this monstrosity is its sensor.
>>55623845
This retard just ranked sensors and the Avior is on there so I guess he figured that was good enough. Personally I think ergonomics matter much more as long as the sensor isn't total garbage.
>>55623845
Why is it ugly? I think it looks pretty cool and they have it at my local BB.
>>55623478
thanks m8, sounds like we're in the same boat
Anybody know a good left-handed mouse?
>>55624682
Mionix Avior 7000(Optical)/8200(Laser) is ambi, currently using it lefty.
>god tier
>all retarded gaymur shit
i got a sharkoon fireglider for 20€ and its actually pretty good.
I'm thinking of upgrading to ASUS Sica (Pixart PMW3310) as my old 7yo pal is almost dead.
Does any of you guys have it?
I own these two.
>Steelseries rival
>Wireless Gateway mouse I painted
So far looking towards the MX master that is oddly not listed
What's a decent mouse off of Amazon that's under $20
I don't game.
best wireless gaming mouse?
i dont want to be a fucking autist still using wired mouse
>>55613054
Broken g900 guy here.
I contacted support about the receiver, and they replied with troubleshooting instruction for the MK710t.
Quality support right there.
