Google has most of us by the balls. I want to be free. Has anyone here actually done it? Has anyone escaped the strangle hold that google had on them?
Here's what I've done already:
>installed CM13 without GApps on my phone
>changed browsers to firefox
>use searx.me as my search engine
>in the process of switching over to protonmail for email
Soon I will delete my google account for good, but YouTube is keeping me from doing it completely. What do I do? I was thinking of making a youtube account just for youtube videos and that's it, nothing else. But would that be enough? It still feels like google owns me that way though.
Maybe there is no true escape, no compromise, except complete isolation from the internet itself.
You answered your own question at the end bud. The long tentacles of the man reach too far in his age. Maybe 5 years ago you'd have a chance to reduce the data collected on you to a mininum but it's too late to start now. You are already on file
Switch entirely to Apple products and use a Google proxy that respects your privacy like Startpage.
take off your fucking tin foil hat you turbo autist
what the fuck do you have to hide
>>55602189
Is it too late to start though? My two options are either do nothing for the rest of my life, or stop right now and give them as little as possible. It's not much, but it's something. Maybe it's for idealistic reasons more than anything
>>55602282
Fuckin do do it, do it then move to South Africa and be come a shoemaker named Bennie.
>>55601892
>I was thinking of making a youtube account just for youtube videos and that's it
What does this even mean?
Are you a terrorist? Because only terrorists have something to fear.
Or maybe you're just a paranoid pedophile? In that case, don't worry; even if Google knows you're a pedophile, chances are that your information has never been handled by a real person, only automated computers.
So yeah, stop.
I don't get why people have got so much to hide. Afraid that people online will know your real name? Why? Afraid people will see your internet history? Why?
What are you so scared of?
What are you hiding?
>>55602343
>n0thing to h1de, n0thing t3h fear!
kys m8
>he uses android
>he doesn't know android contacts google services down to the core level in AOSP
Why don't you get rid of the two evils (google and android) and just buy an N9 you fucking idiot
>>55602390
>http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php
>OS MeeGo OS, v1.2 Harmattan
>complains about Google
>uses ChinkShit OS unironically
>>55601892
I already don't use any Google products except android. (firefox, some local email provider, I generally don't use cloud services because they're botnets, startpage, I do browse YouTube but never login because why should I? etc.)
Wouldn't be hard to switch to iPhone but I don't want to drop a thousand bucks on a new phone when my xperia Z1 works perfectly fine.
It's not hard to escape Google, but it's hard to escape botnets in general while still having good software support.
>>55602390
>android contacts google services down to the core level in AOSP
Why doesn't it show up in the connections then?
>>55601892
>being this delusional
>>55602216
"Someone who has nothing to hide is either an extraordinary exhibitionist or an incredible dullard."
I don't remember where read this. Anyone who recognizes it please tell me.
>>55601892
>youtube account just for youtube
this aint '05, sadly
>>55602416
>100% made by white people
>runs 3D Space Cadet and literally anything made by man
>perfect screen
>perfect UX
>free software
So where is the problem?
fqwerfqwer
Is there a FOSS service that can store your contacts so you can retrieve them easily when you switch phones/SIM card? That's pretty much the only thing I use Google for
>>55601892
Block Google tracking cookies and don't make a Youtube account. Just browse the site to get the links, and then watch them in youtube-dl on your PC, and in NewPipe combined with MX Player on your Android phone.
>>55602492
with youtube-dl in mpv*
or VLC if you're a pleb
>>55602487
Take a look at NextCloud or DAVdroid.
>>55602416
>>55602475
Pic related
>>55602487
I use DAVdroid combined with baikal on my server to sync contacts/calendar between my phone and Thunderbird email client.
>>55601892
Stop using computers altogether.
>>55602464
i don't get it.
are you searching for CP on youtube or some shit?
are you afraid google is going to blackmail you because you once searched for herpes symptoms?
what is it you actually have to hide from google?
>>55602651
If you have nothing to hide Could you upload your search history for me? I want to browse everything.
You fuck.
>>55601892
>use searx.me as my search engine
How can you use a search engine other than Google? All other search engines I've used are shit.
>>55602651
>what is it you actually have to hide from google?
This is the cuck mentality that allows privacy invading laws to be introduced, the "if you have nothing to hide you don't have to worry!" bullshit. Fuck off.
I truly believe there will be a gigantic global data leak in the future. Just a burst where everything becomes open and searchable by everybody and humanity will be shifted forever.
>>55602729
Almost everything is open and searchable by everybody right now, websites that allow you to search through leaked databases like leakedsource or haveibeenpwned are just the surface of this fuckery.
>>55602651
It's not that I do illegal shit like that. It's the principle of the thing. I don't want personal information about me in a database somewhere in the world. If it's okay for Google to collect information about me, then where is the limit?
>>55602722
Can you actually give me an example though?
>>55602669
I just had a look at my search history for the last few days. It's mostly about things related to the news, some statistics on false paternity, median property prices in various countries, how to do dynamic range compression in pulseaudio, etc etc. If I knew how to export it I would. But I don't see the problem in letting Google know what I search in exchange for the search results. Why does it bother you?
>>55602729
People want that kind of information. If they want it bad enough, they'll get it.
>>55602704
Searx is a metasearch engine, it gathers results from multiple other engines. You can set it to only display google results if you want, making it literally a google proxy.
>>55602216
Nothing. But I don't want to be under constant surveillance. If for some legal reason (such as court order) feds want to search me then I would happily assist them. But what Google and the likewise are doing in the internet is completely unacceptable.
The people with the most to hide here have nothing to lose anyway because their lives are already empty.
>>55602768
If you've read Orwell's 1984 you surely wouldn't think like that.
>>55602743
if it is is irrelevant
what matters if the general pleb thinks it is
>Maybe there is no true escape, no compromise, except complete isolation from the internet itself.
Solution: Darknet/Deepweb/Darkweb + CS/PR&D/NE friends, go into the woods or underground and start a community.
>>55602816
>then I would happily assist them.
Cooperating with law enforcement is retarded. They are concerned with getting convictions and nothing else. Anything you say or do could potentially be twisted and used against you. If you are approached by law enforcement, say only that you wish to remain silent, and obviously don't attempt to interfere with their search (assuming they have a warrant). Do not "assist" them in any way.
>>55602216
penis size, masturbation habits and sexual preferences, whether or not you smell your own shit, if you've considered killing someone- yourself- historical reasons given for suicide, researching drugs and illicit substances, chemistry interests
>>55602898
Meant the same. Sorry if I sounded wrong.
>>55602861
this
>>55602216
>what the fuck do you have to hide
Says the anon
>>55602390
>he doesn't know android contacts google services down to the core level in AOSP
Sauce on that claim?
>>55602216
>>55602651
>>55602343
Nice pasta m8
>>55602768
>pulseaudio
>linux
You're on the list.
Friendly reminder that without privacy there is no freedom of expression.
Privacy is not about hiding anything, it's about freedom. Ameritards should understand this concept, since they like to talk about it so often.
>>55602464
Stop using the internet then, whatever you do they will know about it
And even outside you're surrounded by cameras, what are you going to do about that?
>>55602216
>>55602768
>>55602651
I have nothing to hide from the people I trust. I don't trust neither Google nor the US government.
>>55603147
>I have nothing to hide from the people I trust.
Yes you do.
>>55603186
Are we talking about institutions? Then no, I don't.
That's why I don't want to have all my digital life in a US data center. I'm not a terrorist, don't want to be treated like one.
If you want to be free, take the battery out of your phone and stop using it.
>>55602492
You don't even always need to browse youtube.com for the links. Most channels have an RSS feed so you can "subscribe" to those and just get your RSS reader to download and play the videos with youtube-dl/mpv.
>>55602571
MS pinball is not free software
Google homepage is too useful. I love using maps, images, news, videos
They've got me by the balls
>>55601892
Install Gentoo, serious.
>>55603332
Nice, I'll definitely try that. I didn't even know mpv could stream video like that until today.
Maybe I'll write a bash script to handle my subscriptions
Also thank you to all the anons in the thread who are on the side of freedom
>>55601892
>making a youtube account just for youtube videos
Why? You can download YouTube without an account.
I was a privacy guy until this week. I've been using Linux for two years, Icecat, Tor, no Google and things like that. In the end, I realized I wasn't using my laptop for what it is. Free software is still not mature, some of the free software, and that has a big impact on productivity. I decided to just install Windows 10 on my both PCs and use Google. I feel better now, I'm not so paranoid anymore. I was trying to defend myself against the botnet and at the end of the day I realised I did nothing to be proud of. Some people really need privacy, but If you are a regular guy, just use what works best for You and think about other problems and your future.
>>55603289
Some people have jobs, you know...
>>55602669
I understand the privacy, but these arguments are shit. I don't trust you and not even Google, but at least Google is not an anonymous person. Google can have my data, but not you. You sick fuck.
>>55603630
He probably wants to comment on them
>>55604466
>but at least Google is not an anonymous person
No it's an entire company that sells their data to other companies or the goverment, that sounds alot better.
>>55604549
It's not better, but still is not an anonymous person. If a sick fuck tells me what I have to hide and to give him my data, sure he has good intentions. Google never made me problems, I know for sure they will not make memes of me or post my data on pedophile forums like this.
>>55602390
Oh, fuck, my child porn! Source?
>>55602216
If you have nothing to hide it means nobody will trust you with their confidence.
>>55604466
>>55604638
Give me your main email address you fucking hypocrite.
>>55601892
Cute, babby's first attempt to escape the botnet.
A few things:
>installed CM13 without GApps on my phone
You're doing it fucking wrong. Either stop using your phone or install something like Mer, SailfishOS or some other Linux distro that allows you to actually untie yourself from the Google puppet masters.
>changed browsers to firefox
This won't help you much on its own because firefox out of the box contains just as much google tracking, spyware etc. bullshit as google chrome. Also, the entire web is google-infested in general. Even stuff like ajax.googleapis.com is used to host jQuery on a large number of sites. Unless you have your own local mirrors for all of these google-served things, don't even bother - you won't come close to escaping the botnet.
>in the process of switching over to protonmail for email
Dude, just self-host. It's really not that hard (and if you can't google a tutorial and follow instructions, you shouldn't be posting on /g/). You're like the average joe cloud user who can't comprehend that there exists an alternative to trying yourself to botnet services, and thinks escaping the botnet means moving to a different botnet. Pathetic.
>Soon I will delete my google account for good
lol soon. Even fucking having a google account is doing it wrong. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON you would EVER need a google account.
>but YouTube is keeping me from doing it completely. What do I do? I was thinking of making a youtube account just for youtube videos and that's it, nothing else.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN NEED A YOUTUBE ACCOUNT JESUS CHRIST
>But would that be enough? It still feels like google owns me that way though.
Don't worry, they own you one way or the other. Get used to it, cuck
>>55601892
I hope you have a 4chan pass, OP
>>55601892
Google is really shit desu. Unlike everything owned by Google. They say they keep up safe when literally it's "Too safe"
>anti piracy Google fights
>Google doesn't know that torrenting isn't piracy.
Seriously though. If you think about the people who actually wanna learn this then why are you preventing it? I haven't even learned a few other programs and I still have them on my computer.
>>55601892
>>changed browsers to firefox
Check out the browser fingerprinting thread. If one isn't up at the moment you can check the archive for some information. Start blocking all unnecessary scripts and get Greasemonkey and the 4chan X script so you don't need to allow scripts from Google for the captcha. Also get the Decentraleyes addon to avoid dependence on some 3rd party CDNs.
>>55605070
What data does CM send to Google? All I know of is that you can opt in to sending some data back to them through Google analytics, but that's optional and supposedly turned off by default.
>>55605685
>What data does CM send to Google?
I'm not sure how much data CM does or doesn't send to Google, but the point is that you're still using Google software ergo you're under the influence of their design decisions and bullshit.
Also, I know that CM has been under some pretty heavy flak for packaging botnet by default. At any rate, it's certainly nothing resembling the free alternatives to android that it likes masquerading as.
>>55601892
>protonmail
I miss lavabit :(
>>55605070
I'm sure you don't have a job or go to school. Google is useful for these things. Goddamn 4chan is so infested with neckbeards who fap all the time.
>>55601892
I'm so far in the Google botnet I don't even care anymore.
>use android
>gmail is main email
>chrome is main browser
>store everything on Google drive
>have Google fiber
>have project fi
I have become one with the botnet.
>>55606185
When Google will put you in jail or cause you problems, call me. Because that will never happen. Now give your data to someone who request it from here and regret.
>>55606109
I'm enrolled at university and work a side job as a linux sysadmin. Just because you don't want to face the uncomfortable truth doesn't make it less so.
Keep living in your deluded average joe cloud user world view and thinking inside the box.
>>55606220
Your job involves Linux, I understand that, it's easy for you. Your boss will not fire you because your job doesn't involve AutoCAD, Photoshop, etc.
I was a Linux user for a long time, then I installed Windows 10 these days and started to do a lot more things. I couldn't before because PRIVACY and FREE SOFTWARE (very reliable).
>>55606185
kek same, but no fi/fiber, and use chromium instead of chrome but signed into google account kek. You guys are retarded, you get literally nothing extra in life except negative time for doing all this shit.
>>55605070
What do you suggest for web browsing then? I already have a bunch of addons to block fingerprinting, ads, scripts, etc
As for email, everything I've read about self-hosting said it wasn't worth risking getting your domain blacklisted/dealing with spam. I agree with you, the 'cloud' is cancer and I avoid it at all costs. I'll read into it though.
And as for youtube, I use it to manage subscriptions, but I'm going to work on my own script to do that and play them using mpv
It's a process anon, I'm trying my best
>>55606363
I did a lot more before. I even wanted to put Replicant on my phone (and ruin it, of course, I saw it has many problems). When you do these things, you lose more and more, I'm talking about advantages. Let's say you are an artist or photographer. If you avoid Flickr or Facebook, your work will not be seen by many and you lose the change to be recognized. Privacy is good for journalists, whistleblowers. What good can do privacy for a regular guy? When I was obsessed with privacy (when you want more and more) I started to avoid many things and people and I felt so alone. I encourage people to use what works best for them and think about important issues, not some telemetry or useless data. I had moments when I relied on free software and I was so angry because it didn't work right, I ended using proprietary software.
>>55606451
>avoid many things and people and I felt so alone
so facebook makes you felt like you are part of the herd.
>>55606476
I'm not talking about how Facebook make you feel. Facebook is good for advertising. I'm a photographer and it helped me a lot. I was talking about being paranoid, you start to think people want to hurt you in some way, you start to isolate yourself.
>>55602630
Old computers didn't need google though.
So get old computer, or install TempleOS.
>>55606424
You don't need addons for ads, change the hosts file via adaway or lucky patcher. You can also add all known Google IP addresses so Google doesn't "track" you. Leave YouTube out of it tho, since you watch videos there. Even with that, you'd still need a VPN to prevent sites from knowing your approximate location since it's not script depended it's provided by your ISP.
OP i am at the same boat as you but i just cant find a good alternative for Gmail
Protonmail is cool i guess but you have to pay if you want more than 1GB of space
>>55602729
The NSA won't leak all their stuff they worked so hard to acquire.
Neither will google, but their security isn't as good.
Their data = money.
>>55602729
Who the fuck can store so much data? You are retarded.
>>55603136
Pretend to be transgender muslim woman.
![Eit0oQX[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KWUnWa2.png "Eit0oQX[1].png")
why is protonmail so jewish
>>55606759
If you want things, learn to pay for them. Create a service and give it for free. Is it worth it? No. You will see that your service will die without money.
>>55602200
>switch entirely to Apple products
I don't think it's possible to force someone to become homosexual.
>>55606084
Who the fuck posted my email address here
>>55606810
but gmail is free
>>55606109
Hey buddy, there's plenty of people who had jobs and went to school long before google existed. And so it will be long after they're dead.
Same with facebook and other shit like that.
>>55606825
It is supported with money by Google. And it isn't free as in freedom.
>>55606827
Sure, but that time passed. If you want to live like that, it's your choice. I really don't.
>>55601892
use an actual encyclopedia instead of google.
use Yahoo or something. other search engines DO exist, you know.
i hope you faggots dont fall for this meme. If you already had a google account they already have your info. And whos to say that searx.me doesnt track you? Do you just take their word for it?
>>55606651
>he doesn't know about how much data the NSA stores
>>55606825
>he thinks he doesn't pay for gmail in some way
>>55602669
Nice counterargument! Oh wait
>>55606881
>he thinks he doesn't pay for gmail in some way
never gave 1 cent to google
always used adbock
>>55606881
I know how much data NSA stores. But who will store all that data in case of a leak? Also, fuck you.
>>55604549
>that sells their data to other companies or the goverment
Proofs?
>>55606912
It matters not.
You are part of the botnet.
>>55606811
underrated post
>>55606864
So what if you had an account. The point is, if you block their domains in hosts file and block their scripts, they can't track you.
And yes, any web site you use can save logs about you, but that doesn't mean they can follow you around the web as easily as google or facebook.
>>55606958
What harm can Google do to you? Explain me.
>>55601892
No matter where you go, everyone's connected.
You already belong to everything
>>55601892
You cannot escape the botnet.
>>55602729
That's just wishful thinking on your part, hoping one day of your tinfoilery won't be in vain.
Can we have an objective insight on this whole botnet thing though? Really, what's the best thing to do now for who uses a Google for any reason? Is it really worth the hassle to debotnetify your devices?
I don't like the fact that they "may" spy my emails, get approximate location via Android, storing my IM messages.
I never put a photo online or on Facebook, but maybe some other people did when we had to take group photos and even tagged me, I always removed that tag and always gave the least possible information when sending messages online. Probably the most important thing I ever had to give is credit card details to buy online, but you can't do anything about that. I was thinking about starting a Youtube channel but I'm not sure about it.
>>55607022
Honestly its time to stop worrying and just to enjoy your life without thinking about it.
Anyone with the right amount of money/power/influence could know everything about you if they wanted to.
>>55607022
Please, don't make the same mistake as me. Just do what you want to do. Don't let privacy stop you. You will avoid many things if you keep doing this, it's not good for you. If you want to listen to these autists from here, fine, but it's your life, enjoy it and don't stop because someone says that thing is botnet.
>tfw part of the gmail botnet for 11.5 years
>>55607081
So what? That means it's reliable. Try to use Tutanota or another small provider that "respects" privacy. It will go down after some years or have problems with the servers. GMail is fine, use it if it serves you well.
>>55607022
You're in the botnet. It's funny, people who don't have facebook accounts think it matters. It doesn't if all of your friends have facebook accounts.
For a joke I made one in a meme name last year. Facebook already recommended me pretty much everyone I already knew despite me giving it no information beyond the meme name and temporary mail.
Made me realize just how little control I acutally have. Even running all these anti social scripts, adblock scripts, no social media, it doesn't matter, they know. You can control your own shit, but not other people's and they just work through them to build a profile of you.
>>55607058
What mistake have you made? I mean, what have you avoided? Do you really keep hindering yourself without a Google account?
Hell I haven't even updated to Windows 10 because I didn't like the spammy way the advertised it
>>55606912
You give them complete access information about yourself that they can sell to advertisers who can then use it to try to manipulate you. You may as well be letting them pimp you out to suck people's dicks.
>>55607110
It's a waste of time to fight, it doesn't matter. Enjoy the life.
>>55607052
Nope, not if you protect yourself correctly.
If you follow the carefree advice of the useful idiots in this thread, even the stupidest of SJW will dox you.
>>55601892
you don't need a youtube account
create a program to manage subscriptions yourself
>>55607110
Did you use your real IP? If yes, of course it's going to suggest you people living in the same city.
>>55607120
>complete access information about yourself that they can sell to advertisers
[citation needed]
>>55607110
Have fun getting arrested by the thought police when you talk about AfD on "private" facebook, Hanz.
>>55607107
Set up your own email server. All you need is a domain name and a toaster or pie to host it 24/7.
>>55607107
>tfw no cock.li
>>55607143
You give them permission to datamine your emails, and if you use a your Google account with an Android phone you give them permission to datamine everything you have on that phone: your texts, your call data, your internet history, the apps you have installed, etc.
>>55602825
deep man
Google is one of the least important data collectors to worry about. After all, they have great incentive to keep your info private. It's more valuable that way.
Hundreds of other entities gather and actually SELL information on the web. They're infinitely more of a security risk than major players like Google.
Also, what your bank collects can have a far greater effect on your life. Their computers constantly watch what and where you buy things. Partly to determine possible fraud, but partly also to determine your financial health prospects. Spend money at a marriage counsellor? That's just a targeted ad from Google. But to the bank it's a red flag that you might soon be paying alimony instead of your bills.
Seriously, people are so upside down about who and what they worry about.
>>55607199
Another reminder that any service promoting privacy will inevitably be raided.
>>55607114
I avoided LOTS of things when I was a privacy guy. I spent a lot of time with Linux and reading about privacy. I didn't make something I could be proud of on my PC because the software on Linux is not a pleasure to use. If you want my advice, upgrade to Windows 10. I did, I'm happy. It works perfectly, I have all the software I need, I can think of other problems now and not the botnet. When life will throw something hard at you, you will see that privacy will not matter. You will want people to encourage you, to be supported. Some people will not because they avoid cellphones, Google, Facebook (for chatting), Whatsapp, etc. If you are far away from your family and want to chat with them without paying so much money on a mobile plan, you will use the internet.
I started running again, reading, enjoying my hobbies. I ordered an excellent software for teaching me how to drive (it cover all aspects). It's very nice, I can't wait to have it. I also gave Google my credit card and bought some apps I used to pirate, I'm glad I can support the developers now when I can.
>>55607205
Do you even know what the word citation means you fucking retarded shitposter? And nothing in your post even supports what you said earlier.
>>55607128
Usually people who care about privacy start covering themselves up to late. Regardless there is plenty of information out there on everyone and anyone can get a hold of it if they try hard enough.
This isn't like the movies kid
>>55607165
My internet is shit sometimes or it goes down. Also during storms the electricity goes out. I can't miss important emails.
>>55607052
>>55607058
>>55607110
>>55607127
>don't try to fight it goyim, just spread your cheeks and let us fuck your boipussy raw
>>55607250
Are you a certified retard? All the people you are quoting are conceding to the botnet.
>>55607214
>Go Abroad and tell my bank I am going abroad
>tell them in person and online settings
>they block my card the second it was used
>Had to spend a lot of time telling them to fix their fuck up
Fucking bank. Clerk could see "Oh yes, you did tell us, we apologize and will sort this out".
When they finally did, they blocked it in the next country I went to. Any money in a bank is their money money as far as they're concerned.
>>55603659
This would make for a good show.
>>55607250
What do you mean? I never had problems with Google, they serve me well. Fuck off now, you are a sheep like 95% of the 4chan. Even normies have a better life, I don't want to miss opportunities because of a meme.
>>55607229
I take it as you didn't read Google's privacy policy before agreeing.
>>55607235
Unless you never have any change in your life, it's never to late. Also, there are people who practiced partly decent OPSEC since childhood because that's how they were raised and how people used to act on the internet.
>>55607293
>you are a sheep like 95% of the 4chan
>people fight back are sheep
wat
>>55607349
Fighting back is not bad. Being an autist is.
>>55602571
Hi Sam
>>55601892
hey guys, Hillary Clinton here, i'm hosting my own email server, why don't you guys do the same?
>yfw face when you realize 100% of the anti-google crusaders ITT are filling in google captchas RIGHT NOW in order to persuade others away from the botnet
You literally can't make this shit up.
If you can't practice what you preach, fuck off.
>>55607329
>I take it as you didn't read Google's privacy policy before agreeing.
Nope. I've actually read it before and nowhere in it could I find any statement about selling user data to 3p advertisers. Stop trying to evade my demand for a citation to your retarded claim you retarded faggot.
>>55607434
Had a good laugh, thanks man.
>>55607434
that's why 8ch is better. I personally love Google, i'm a paid Google shill, literally.
>>55607434
>You literally can't make this shit up.
Exactly. All this talk of fighting the botnet, it's admirable but meaningless. They know.
>>55607434
They are complaining about Google's data collection habits, and people in this thread have already mentioned using tools to get around that for the captchas.
>>55607520
>They are complaining about Google's data collection habits
Yes and? Are you implying recaptchas don't collect your data or what?
>and people in this thread have already mentioned using tools to get around that for the captchas.
Aside from >>55605083, where?
>>55607473
Post your citation anytime, fuckwit.
>>55607434
>Nope. I've actually read it before and nowhere in it could I find any statement about selling user data to 3p advertisers. Stop trying to evade my demand for a citation to your retarded claim you retarded faggot.
>Information we share
>For external processing
>We provide personal information to our affiliates or other trusted businesses or persons to process it for us, based on our instructions and in compliance with our Privacy Policy and any other appropriate confidentiality and security measures.
Google runs advertising services, they don't need to cooperate with 3rd party advertisers. While that anon's claim wasn't entirely accurate, it really doesn't make a difference as there's still a party using that information to try to manipulate you.
>>55602343
>look for new job
>employer runs background check
>sees browsing history and all the other skeletons in your closet
>intothetrashitgoes.png
>>55607583
>Yes and? Are you implying recaptchas don't collect your data or what?
>he doesn't know about the noscript captcha that the anons in the browser fingerprinting thread have been pushing
See >>55605685
https://vikingvpn.com/cybersecurity-wiki/browser-security/guide-hardening-mozilla-firefox-for-privacy-and-security
Is this + VPN any good?
>>55607434
What's your point? It's not like people who post here have to use other google services, or allow themselves to be tracked easily via 3rd party scripts.
The rise of javascript and ad-blocking scripts shows that a lot of poeple don't feel comfortable with all that tracking shit running rampant.
There is a lot more work to be done, but don't look down on people for trying to fight back. It's not an all-or-nothing affrair either, the more you do to protect yourself, the less info they can collect.
>>55607520
Even if you disable the scripts to load the captcha on 4chanx you're still downloading the pictures and frame from google and they get your IP, it makes absolutely no difference if you use another google service like youtube, they automatically correlate the IP and serve you videos accordingly for example.
>all the cucks in this thread trying to defend their bull
>>55607659
>they get your IP
>correlate the IP
You have no clue how tracking on the internet works, do you? It isn't done using a number that's liable to change regularly and jumps between people. That would just get them garbage information.
>>55607642
>duckduckgo
>ublock instead of ublock origin
>'no'
>>55602200
>implying Applel is no botnet
>>55607708
You're fucking retarded, all their services do this automatically when you load any of their stuff your machine, solve a captcha without the scripts and then go see a few youtube videos, you'll start getting /pol/ tier trump trash after 2 or 3 videos.
>>55607759
>solve a captcha without the scripts and then go see a few youtube videos, you'll start getting /pol/ tier trump trash after 2 or 3 videos.
I've never been able to get that to work with the noscript captcha. I have with the normal captcha though.
QUICK
WRITE A WEB PROXY IN YOUR FAVORITE LANGUAGE THAT FILTERS OUT ALL THE TRACKING SHIT AND RANDOMIZES YOUR BROWSER FINGERPRINT
OR THIS BIRD IS GONNA STAB YOU
>>55607787
I'm using noscript captcha, no cookies, no scripts and still getting pokemon GO shilled trash and daily show as well.
Go and try again and look at the sidebar for recommended shit.
>>55607632
Except I DO know about it and was even using it when the "no captcha" captcha was first introduced and legacy wasn't around yet. But like yt-dl you're still sending data to google. This isn't what I call "escaping the botnet".
>>55607655
>It's not like people who post here have to use other google services
You don't have to, yet you do. At least the people who embraced the botnet use it for productivity, while the loudmouthed neckbeard crusaders are still hopping on that google dick just to watch a youtube video or make a 4chan shitpost.
>>55607832
хвaлa пyтин
>>55607835
How can I get noscript captcha?
>>55607874
install 4chanx
>>55607839
>people who embraced the botnet use it for productivity
Yeah sure.
It's all for nothing, if you visit a website with analytics, you're "spotted".
If you don't have a Gmail, then if you email someone who has then they've got your mails as well.
>>55607835
>and still getting pokemon GO shilled trash and daily show as well.
I get similar top videos in my main browser as I get if I go to Youtube in Tor, minus some differences depending on the country the exit node is. Is it possible you're getting Pokemon Go related videos because it's viral right now?
>>55607889
I already have it. There's nothing else to do? I already went through all the settings when I first installed it, now I can't remember if there was a noscript option to check
>>55607908
>It's all for nothing, if you visit a website with analytics, you're "spotted".
>actually allowing scripts from Google analytics
Are you retarded?
>>55605070
I need a youtube account to shitpost
>>55607904
At least on this board, yes
>>55602768
>the news
possible political biased
>statistics on false paternity
possible bad parent trying to run away
>median property prices in various countries
possible tax evasion
>dynamic range compression in pulseaudio
fuckin hacker
you don't know who is going to use your data in the future
>>55607921
doubt it man, look at the stuff on >>55607889
>>55607928
on settings set it to use it
Nah, if it comes to a point where I have too many services and I have to use an account for each of them I'm lazy enough to not give a shit. Same with software and such.
Besides when you learn that half the shit that is made for tinfoil hatters is actually just snake oil and still tracks your data you realize that you're actually wasting your fucking time. For what? Emails about offers on how to make your dick size bigger? Someone looking at those videos about different political ideas? Maybe they will know that you had to search for those genital warts again?
I get the want for privacy, what I don't get is the arrogance to think that you somehow matter that much. The priority is to get shit that gets banned all the time, censored, blocked, deleted for stupid reasons to be shown again, to be exposed so people can at least have the freedom to inform others.
But instead the most important thing is to hide, to hide, to hide. Yeah, keep fighting for that one, I'm sure you'll get it.
>>55607949
Yeah wasn't enabled, thank you
>>55607946
And the best thing we can do is to try to prevent that from happening in the first place. What good is a system in which we all have to use tools to hide away because someone is going to prosecute us on pure conjecture?
We should find the tools to fight against that. We can't just go "oh well, the world is going to shit but, at least they didn't find dirt on me!"
>>55607949
>watch a ton of videos
>google recommends videos related to what you watched during that session
Am I supposed to be surprised by that?
>>55601892
Fight the botnet with Qutebrowser and Linux
All I know is I use gmail and I have never gotten a spam email.
>>55608017
That's what I would do if all I had to do on the computer was browsing and sending messages, but I actually need to use programs, too.
>>55608016
I didn't watch anything related to any of that, clicked on the generic animated movies trailers that get shilled on the front page to do the experiment.
>>55608030
> not writing your own software
Are you some kind of degenerate?
>>55607938
Apparently nowhere near your level it seems.
>>55607659
You can load the captcha through a proxy.
You can limit your footprint but you can't erase it.
Start by using email services that don't sell your information. I pay for mine on principal.
Stop using Windows or Mac unless absolutely necessary. Linux isn't that difficult to learn stop being lazy.
If using Android or iOS avoid using it for email, banking etc and don't use applications that request more permissions than they need to function
Use browsers with noscript and adblock plugins.
Delete Facebook and social media entirely.
I found I was a lot happier once I stopped giving a crap about checking social media too. Friends actually have to do something crazy like ask how you're doing instead of 'ohh, yeah man I saw XYZ on Facebook'
That's just a few steps I've taken to lessen the impact of botnet. Then again I'm an oldfag, this generation is born into it and by all appearances could care less about their privacy.
Think of all the websites out there that provide their stuff for free, and yet make vast profits by taking your information from you instead of your money. The economy of the future will probably be a lot more like that, where information is currency and you can pay for things by just providing your email address. Everything is going to move towards that, for better or worse.
If you refuse to participate, I wish you all the best, but in the end you will just be the future's equivalent of one of those hermits who lives in the woods and grows his own food and steals old clothes from dumpsters rather than spending money on new clothes.
>>55607022
People have had their google email accounts banned and deleted for receiving attachments or emailing to themselves racist memes or pictures. One day your account is just gone, no way to recover any accounts you registered with that address. No way to appeal the ban to a real person. Its all just gone.
>>55602216
Saying you don't need privacy because you have nothing to hide is just as absurd as saying that you don't need free speech because you have nothing to say.
>>55609287
Seriously? Have you got any webpage that I can read about it?
It seems pretty weird to me
>>55609307
OK mr.snowden
:^)
>>55606261
>what is QEMU+KVM
Son these things are great to run Windows for ya nonfree tools.
>>55601892
To be honest OP - I don't care. Google has nothing worthwhile on me other then jerk off material and I couldn't care less. It's not so hard to escape using Google as well as not having any Google-account. So keep that tape on your computer webcam and speaker. No one cares and no one cares to use whatever you view against you other then the prince of Nigeria.
>>55608008
Are you John Connor?
>>55608352
>born into it
Wew, are they ever going to regret having their youth and internets habits filed into hivemind forever and ever is what I'm thinking. I suspect the end game is conformity and compliance to authority and blacklisting the disobedient to form some new age insect like hivemind of political and religious correctness. Not having kids and end of genetic line myself so don't much care, not even saying it's for the worse but sure is hard to see how it will be good for humanity and the abuse will be epic, history always repeats with the ape.
>>55609334
It's weird because it doesn't happen. Google literally has no reason to do this
it's pretty easy
>Use a Mac, browse with Safari.
>Use an iPhone.
Before you mouth off about Apple stealing my data or whatever think for a moment - do you have any evidence of that?
Apple, unlike Google or Facebook or even Microsoft now still base their business around a simple old fashioned concept: they make a product, you buy it.
>>55602343
Because at least in America privacy is a human right. Not like the bullshit "human rights" progressive nonsense google pushes.
>>55609841
No but I didn't mention I'm a proponent of free software so no Apple for me
>>55602282
the more time that passes, the more their data on you becomes irrelevant
>>55609883
You can still install your free shit on a Macintosh.
>>55609888
Exactly, my past data is basically useless to them. It's the current data that's most valuable. My current search habits, what I'm looking for, what I'm watching, what I'm buying, etc. And now they have none of that.
>>55606811
kek
>>55609904
So what's the point of spending 4x the money for the same hardware?
>>55609841
>do you have any evidence of that?
Apple does have knowledge of everything you purchase,emails, and a lot of information about your activities. They don't sell their data like Mirosoft/Google do, but they still have a profile of you. So you not definitely anonymous when using Apple product. OSX is never going to be safe as long as it uses x86. IOS is safer, but cell phones are fundamentally unsafe.
>>55602322
I'm not him but I guess either for making videos or for channels subscriptions?
Perosnnaly that's the only thing I can't do without, I'm following too many YT channels to remember to check every one of them myself. An there's no YT alternative sadly, in terms of content.
>>55610377
I'm pretty sure YouTube provides RSS feeds for channels, I don't know if anyone used it exclusively for a replacement for the (terrible) sub box
>>55610422
Oh, I didn't knew about that, it actually work. Thanks dude. Now considering if I still need the account for anything else like liking videos, but I guess views are actually more important to support youtubers I like anyway.
>>55609197
>If you refuse to participate, I wish you all the best, but in the end you will just be the future's equivalent of one of those hermits who lives in the woods
As a result of not whoring myself out for a free email address or voluntarily posting my life story online? I doubt that. The more likely scenario (so far anyway) is having a small tight knit group of friends instead of having a large group of friends. Which I'm cool with because people who choose their topics of discussion and spending habits based on spoon-fed social media garbage and the latest fads aren't that interesting to me anyway.
You gotta admit it does get old when """literally""" everything is a meme in daily life.
>>55607114
I'm not taking any sides, but I'd really like people to consider opinions like these in the debate.
I'm currently interested in finding alternatives to Windows/Google/etc, but I'm torn between the 2 sides.
Putting ethics aside, I'm not really sure that being part of the botnet is really that important.
Realistically, how bad can it get?
>>55609334
Cant provide links as its on a private messageboard. Guy said when he tried to log in he got a message saying his account violated the terms of service and had been closed. Poof, gone.
>>55609334
>>55609803
Found a shitty article that mentions it.
>Send, upload or distribute any unlawful, defamatory, harassing, abusive, fraudulent, infringing, obscene or otherwise objectionable content.
Email fraud has become rampant as technology continues to develop, but sending harassing or obscene content is also illegal. The U.S. government has drafted up ahelpful manualfor recognizing fraudulent content with tips on what to do when you encounter it. This list of illegal content seems pretty all-inclusive, so just send, upload and distribute only cute pictures of cats, okay?
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/gmail-terms-conditions/#jJ_YdLx3SiqH
>>55610860
I can see that, from that post it sounded like they got banned from Gmail for sending shitty memes
>>55608352
>Stop using Windows or Mac unless absolutely necessary.
Why? Simple terms. What bad.
>Linux isn't that difficult to learn stop being lazy.
No its not, but it lacks games, real video and audio production tools, and probably some other stuff I don't know about.
>>55611041
who needs more games beside dwarf fortress and catalyst?
>>55611101
cataclysm dda*
catalyst are the ati drivers kek.
>>55610941
Well yeah, shitty racist memes. Objectionable content is whatever they want it to be.
>>55611041
>terms
0/10
>software
Your average person doesn't need or often use video and audio production tools. Games it's lacking I'll give you that but most people over 25 could care less about that, including me.
>>55609197
>this is what the bible meant when it talked about the mark of the beast
>Revelation was warning us about the botnet
>MFW
Do I pray to St. Ignucius, Lain, or someone else? Help me, I'm not Catholic.
privacytools.io
read it all
>>55602390
lol, at least install sailfish on that crap.
>>55607216
It's down again? :0
>>55609197
Dude, not falling for the social media jew and letting sites harvest any more detailes than strictly necessary isn't "being a hermit" as you say, it's just being responsible and having your priorities right. Because let's face it, those companies and the government don't really care about you beyond making a profit or collecting taxes. They won't be there to defend you should any bad consequences arise from this.
In fact, the big companies, along with the government and mass media have priorities that are at odds with the average man. But they have done a good job of brainwashing you to believe otherwise.
>>55607285
Or a episode of silicon valley
>>55609197
>he doesn't grow his own food
>>55611720
>Your average person doesn't need or often use video and audio production tools.
Also true that the average person doesn't care about the botnet.
>most people over 25 could care less about that
Yes if you want to live your life
Between the software and hardware you personally use, and the software/hardware used in the telecommunications infrastructure you indirectly use, there is literally no way to escape, even just Google.
>>55611720
>but most people over 25 could care less about that,
Average age of a gamer is actually more than 30.
No one mentioned F-Droid yet?
>>55606811
With a bit of time and some good futanari to ease yourself into it it's not that hard.
>>55606935
Read up on the PRISM project.
>>55601892
you can't escape the botnet.
some software you use will have a backdoor.
even some hardware you use will have one.
and if you somehow manage to avoid it, your internet provider will gladly hand over all important informations if asked.
>>55610558
>having a small tight knit group of friends instead of having a large group of friends.
Watch it comrade, that sounds like a terrorist cell. You're not a terrorist, are you?
>>55611101
DF isn't even open-source desu senpai. Can't run that on OpenBSD or any other OS that I'd consider running. But there's already six gorillion roguelikes, so whatever. The "gamers" don't want alternative snyway, just suck corporate dick.
>>55611840
Install TempleOS and make offerings of drawings & music for starters. Learn to code also, if you don't already.
>>55615363
You can escape the infrastructure (pic) and you can even design your own OS and hardware, based on microcontrollers.
If you just give up, you'll never get anywhere. And that's exactly what the system is designed for, so you fall in place like a good little goyim and cog in the machine, to be used and eventually discarded when no longer useful.
>>55601892
Just use MPS-Youtube for Browsing youtube and any rss reader for the channels you want to follow.
I use liferea and set the browser to mpv, so when i click on the youtube links in liferea he opens the video in MPV.
>>55602828
It's not so much Orwellian as it is more Huxley or a combination of the two IMO.
>>55602898
That's why I absolutely hated the movie Law Abiding Citizen. I was rooting for Butler the whole time and hoping Foxx would die in a fire. The attempt to Butler a bad guy was so fucking typical of the regressive leftists that permeate the USA and Europe.
>>55617752
I might actually start using the RSS feature more now considering I already download whatever I plan to watch anyways.
>>55606811
Why do you need a youtube account anyway ?
If you want to keep track of your history, just make a script for that. The recommendations are shit anyway, but the algorithm is public.
I only use Google for its webmaster tools and adsense.
I dont really use the botnet. But I impose it on others.
>>55610463
likes and comments are better for growth but views generate a little money while a like/commend does nothing adsense wise.
