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Why arent you using the best non-autist(emacs & vim are autistic)
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Why arent you using the best non-autist(emacs & vim are autistic) text editor?
>Faster than atom
>Has awesome packages
>Simple(no retarded keybindings)
>Dont have to learn a language to use it(in case your time is actually valuable)
>Can make it look however you want
>Dosent lag after 500 lines of code
>Works on all platforms
>Can use all of it for free with 70$ to disable the once in the blue nagware
>Has features for normies and autists alike
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>>55600795

>Dont have to learn a language to use it(in case your time is actually valuable)
>in case your time is actually valuable

And here you are.
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>>55600795
No built in auto complete and the community packages for auto complete are absolute garbage
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>>55600819
>Implying one can't use a site to entertain oneself on free time
>Implying occasionally posting on a site is as time consuming as learning a programming language
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>>55600825
>Needing autocomplete
How's atom pajeet?
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>>55600855
How can you be elitist about a IDE feature? No devs have so much to complain about
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>>55600795
sublime text's autocomplete is goat. visual studio BTFO
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>>55600795

its not Brackets
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>>55600948
This. Shits never failed me
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>>55600795
Just learn vim instead of using some meme editor you fucking pleb
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Can you run sublime over tmux in a SSH shell? No? Into the trash it goes.
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>>55600966

Brackets, Visual Studio Code, and Atom all look the same. Do they use the same backbone?
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>>55600999
>Vim
The keybindings don't even make sense on a non Dvorak keyboard
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>>55601082
What are you talking about
Most commonly used keys are either on the homerow or right next to it
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>>55600795
>why learn how to ride a bike when you can just use training wheels forever
>haha bike plebs are autists don't value their time
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>>55601025
>tmux
<fart sound>
Use byobu.Enjoy life.
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>>55601081
No, and they don't look the same wtf are you blind m8
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>>55600795
how does sublime compare to notepad++?
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all you need are nano for tty and np++ for desktop
vim is the most retarded editor i ever used
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Emacs and VIM are as autistic as you make it to be. You can literally spend 30 minutes copying and tweaking a configuration file from the internet, memorize about 10 shortcuts, and still be very efficient with it.
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>>55600795
But I do
Soda theme is the best theme
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>>55601100
All keys are either on the homerow or right next to it
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Does vim have auto-complete? If yes, how do enable it? I hope it's doesn't require a plugin or a keybinding that involves Ctrl
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I want to like emacs. But the learning curve is steep for me. I'd like to be able to compile C code inside it right now and I don't know how. I'll stick to GCC
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>>55601380
>not solarised-dark
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>>55601521
>dark
Can't see shit
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>>55600795
Damn what is this retarded atom clone?
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>>55600795
>paying $70 to stop spam messages from a text editor
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>>55600795
But I am, anon.

Yes, vim is entirely autistic. I have yet to see a single neckbeard give an adequate explanation as to why it's worth wasting so much time just use that garbage.

emacs is okay
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>>55601380
Are you running Mountain Lion?
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>>55603993
>Doesn't pay for software.
You're part of the problem.
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>>55600795
>Why arent you using the best bottom-tier text editor?
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>>55605290
Mavericks

I think that Mountain Lion was the peak of evolution of Aqua
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Why aren't you running El Cap?
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>>55600795
I just can't find a use case for it
>Programming
an IDE
>Terminal use
vim
>Everyday use
doesn't matter so whatever the DE has as default, currently kwrite
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>>55605392
UI
Font rendering
Some people say it's slower
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>>55605421
>programming
sublime text
>terminal use
tell application 'Sublime Text" to open ...

>everyday use
Sublime Text
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Support for my language of choice is not as good as it is in emacs, unfortunately. I'd love to ditch emacs for a variety of reasons. I love it, and it's the best option out there for me, but god does it suck.

I'd love to use an editor/IDE that looks good, handles fonts properly and even allows for ligatures, has sensible keybindings by default, and has a good scripting language.
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>>55605436
Not had any issues with speed vs older releases. I can't willingly run an outdated OS, makes me nervous, all those security patches.
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>>55605502
Mavericks is still supported though

Some people still run snow leopard, today
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>>55605531
>Some people still run snow leopard, today
So people believe in religions as well, doesn't make it okay
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>>55605582
edgy/10

Also most people still run an OS which was released before Snow Leopard, and think that it's the best one (Windows 7)
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>>55605602
Windows 7 should not ever be described as the best, even in jest.
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how to get this gray over black colorscheme in vim
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>>55605804
>no syntax highlighting
Why would you want that?
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>>55605928
Syntax highlighting is a crutch for babbies.
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>>55605953
>crutch for babies
>doesn't even know how to remove it
Who's the real baby here?
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>>55605953
>not wanting to have beautiful code

You're missing out, anon
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>>55600795
Dear OP,

Caring this much about a text editor is pretty fucking autistic.

Love,
The World
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>>55606011
is this the gruvbox theme?
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>>55606057
Yep.
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>>55605953
Not only is this statement stupid, its also wrong. Syntax highlighting gives you insights that would require long complex messages in your IDE.
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>>55605500
Holy fuck, man we've got the same requirements! Don't tell me that your lang of choice is clojure
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>>55606011
>Fantasque Sans bro
My nigga

>those quote glyphs
The author released a new version a few weeks ago changing these to straight quotes.
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>>55606088
>"IDE, I need to know whether this line is a comment or not!"
>"IDE, tell me the keywords of the language I supposedly know, I forgot them xD"
>"IDE, I can't tell the difference between a class, function or variable in my program because I have give my identifiers shitty meaningless names"
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had some autistic intern that wanted to work in vim to show off or something.. vim Is great but just use an proper editor for big projects..
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>>55606290
Do you know why people use vim? Have you tried it out yourself?
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>>55606286
You're a moron. Colour is incredibly important and purposefully excluding it from your dev environment is a sign you're trying to hard.
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>>55600795
>he doesn't know about the glory of modal editing, text objects, and ex-commands
>he pays for his text editor
>his text editor is proprietary
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>>55600795
Nano.
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>>55606150
Close. It's Racket Lisp.
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>>55606466
this

color gives visual cues for better and faster readability of the code without actually looking at the meaning of the text
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>>55606201
what is the color theme? feels kind a like visual studio dark instead of that light blue it would go dark blue
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>>55600795

> being too stupid to spend on hour going through vimtutor
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>>55606922

Menlo font
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>>55606922
looks like the granger theme for emacs, or the light table default theme
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>>55607048
i didnt ask about font anon

theme
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>>55600795
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>>55600795
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>>55607157
The theme's called Bliss.
I modified it a little bit so that it shows comments in italics.
http://colorsublime.com/theme/Bliss
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>>55607253
>that font rendering
sasuga default linux
install the infinality patches
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>>55606201
name of that theme pls
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>>55607356
>>55607330
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>>55601380
>not Neka

it's like you want me to accuse you of having no style
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>>55601411
>auto-complete
>keybinding

Protip: If you need to press a key, it's completion, not *auto*completion.

Vim only supports completion out of the box, but there are plugins for autocompletion.

Autocompletion is overrated, I prefer being able to press a key to complete instead of waiting half a second for the autocompletion to kick in.
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>>55607330
thank you so much
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>>55607393
>flat
>dark
>>>/trash/
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>>55605953
Syntax highlighting is for homo sapiens who are not color blind and still possess the neural faculties for subconsciously processing visual input.

I'm sorry that this doesn't apply to you. I hope you still have your brain stem, at least.
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>>55607330
oh now i see that html is pretty ugly :/
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>>55607441
only code should be on the screen, nothing else
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>>55607346
I appreciate your trying to help me, but I don't see anything wrong with the font rendering. Should I be looking for anything in particular?

>inb4 some jackwagon just quotes me back to myself
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you posted the wrong image, op.
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>>55607458
Not only that - it also wastes a lot of space. Compare the two
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>>55607477
Your renderer is currently set so that it does neither hinting nor smoothing.
You should at least try fixing one of these issues.

>>55607455
Yeah it's... a bit plain.
I haven't modified HTML yet cause it's been a long time I last wrote something in that language, but I did change XML so that element contents are shown in white and bold.
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>>55607543
you know you can resize the sidebar, right? lmao
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>>55606822
What are you using RacketLisp for? Asking because I want my next side project to be in a functional language
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>>55607613
You can't resize it so it'd take less vertical space lmao
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>>55601082
Muh vim-dvorak brother
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>>55607157
the picture was important, the font was for the curious about the picture.

besides, I can't find the theme. just copy these colours: https://github.com/owainlewis/emacs-color-themes/blob/master/themes/granger-theme.el
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>>55607604
I'm not going to bother doing either of those, but thanks for letting me know!
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>>55600795
>bragging about being faster than atom
my fucking sides
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>>55606893
>ignore the text
>ignore your actual program
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>>55601402
made me laugh, but ~,-,= and numbers 1-0 aren't right next to home row
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>>55600795
Can use all of it for free with 70$

guys it's free, all you have to do is pay them!
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>>55607917
shit i forgot my meme arrow

>Can use all of it for free with 70$
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>Can use all of it for free with 70$ to disable the once in the blue nagware
>with 70$ to disable the once in the blue nagware

Just use a universal license key

http://appnee.com/sublime-text-3-universal-license-keys-collection-for-win-mac-linux/
archive link: http://archive.is/Nv3Wb

There is no executable code in this link, so you don't need to worry about malware. It's just a license key. And it's a master key, so as many people can use it as they want.
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>2016
>still no editor which properly aligns text with proportional fonts, or can properly align text at all without relying on the font itself for alignment
>still no editor which can properly handle images or other non-plaintext-data, despite the fact that many programming languages contain libraries or otherwise support creating and manipulating images or other non-plaintext-data
>still no editor which properly supports textual ligatures required to render non-Latin fonts correctly
>still no editor which represents tabular data correctly
>still no editor which does highlighting correctly, via language semantics and not hashing symbols arbitrarily to colors (I know what defun is, emacs, don't fucking highlight it. Highlight the use of global variables/constants, or local variables/constants when they're used within their respective scopes.)
Every editor sucks. Some of the larger code-editing platforms support some of these features, bu there is not a one which supports all of them. Particularly correctly aligning and rendering fonts.
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Atom + Vim Modal Control masterrace
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>>55606116
Paul Allen's is the best 2bh
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>>55607987

>or can properly align text at all without relying on the font itself for alignment
Font rendering is the operating system's job, and how a font is supposed to appear is the job of the font itself. If an editor were to force align a font that is not fixed width, it would be acting contrary to the design of the font itself.

>properly handle images or other non-plaintext-data
Text editors are not WYSIWYG office suites. Their job is to edit text.

>still no editor which properly supports textual ligatures required to render non-Latin fonts correctly
Possibly a legitimate criticism.

>still no editor which represents tabular data correctly
Text editors are not Excel.

>still no editor which does highlighting correctly, via language semantics and not hashing symbols arbitrarily to colors (I know what defun is, emacs, don't fucking highlight it. Highlight the use of global variables/constants, or local variables/constants when they're used within their respective scopes.)
Make one. Alternatively, program in Ruby, where scope is designated by sigils (@, @@, and $) attached to the beginning of variable names, which will be highlighted.
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>>55608023
Bill Joy, creator of vi, on vi.
>The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands.
>I wish we hadn't used all the keys on the keyboard.
>vi was written for a world that doesn't exist anymore.
>I think one of the interesting things is that vi is really a mode-based editor. I think as mode-based editors go, it's pretty good. One of the good things about EMACS, though, is its programmability and the modelessness. Those are two ideas which never occurred to me.
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>>55608133
Font alignment is not font rendering. They're completely separate. You can have font alignment while still having font rendering done by the operating system.

>Text editors are not...
I said "editors". Even at the bottom I specifically said "code-editing platforms". Stop being obtuse.
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>>55608178
Sorry, *text alignment.
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>>55608154
I'm still able to manipulate,search, and operate on text much faster than one can with a normal text editor.
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>>55608206
I have literally never seen anyone claim this and back it up by having somebody else time them.
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>>55607943
OP Here. You're God
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>>55608240
Mate I understand your hostility towards the editor, I get it, more than 4 commands makes the brain hurt. But once you figure it out, it's incredibly fast.

Lets say for example you have the string of text:

lor|em ipsum dolor

and | is the curson, and you wanted to jump to the next instace of the character "p" all you have to do if type fp to jump to it.

Where in a normal editor one might use the arrow keys/ctrl-arrow keys, or even use the mouse. That is a lot more keystrokes and a lot more time wasted.

Try vimtutor for yourself, you only need yourself to back up my claim :^)
http://www.openvim.com/
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>>55600795
>>Doesn't lag after 500 lines of code

Can confirm.
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>>55608455
What a terrible idea. Good job my man
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>>55607943
been lookin for this for months, it worked, thanks a ton
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>>55608404
I'm not hostile towards the editor. I've used vim for years and am very familiar with it. I have just literally never seen anyone make your claim and then back it up by having somebody else time them. Don't be passive aggressive.
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>>55608133
Text alignment is pretty much exclusively the editor's job, you tool. Otherwise all text would just be represented in the editor as a single stream with \n every so often and not indented or broken into new-lines. Instead, those \n characters are used to tell the editor the display linebreaks.
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>nags you to pay

it's 2016, I don't want to use a nagware.

The icon looks ugly as shit too. Doesn't even match with the theme of the editor.
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Emacs is just too comfy for me to leave, anon. I would rather have all the features for free then have to pay $70 just to not be nagged. Also, Emacs has community packages, better functionality, and is totally Gnu (for you freetards out there).
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>>55608455
>80000+ lines of CSS
what is this?
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>>55610227
All the code needed to style your mom
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>>55610091
Scripting in elisp is a nightmare compared even to JavaScript and Python.

t., multiple years-long emacs user.
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I use it for quick projects that don't need an IDE, but I hate the lunix fag mentality of having to write some config file just to compile and run a Java or C program in the console.
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>>55605305
>he thinks you should pay for information
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