Please tell me this is a prank.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/07/14/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-new-monthly-charge/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon#
Windows 7 forever :)!
Not going to pay for Windows 10 :)!
>>55591266
It's for the Enterprise version. Don't panic.
>$7 per user per month
No company is going to do this when they can buy Windows 7 Enterprise and call it done.
After Windows 7 is EOL, I can see a large number of companies moving to Mac.
>>55591330
For now. If you expect it to stay like this you are a morono..
Its no prank. Classic bait-and-switch.
>>55591406
>No company is going to do this
Clueless hipster startups might, the over inflated subscription business model is the only model they understand.
>>55591406
You clearly have no idea how much companies would like to pay to keep Windows. They have all their applications they've been using for decades on their systems, they will never replace it with a different operating system.
>>55591463
We have ~8000 desktops for ~4000 employees at work. All of them are running Windows 7 Enterprise right now.
$60,000 a month to run Windows is not worth it.
>>55591406
It will be interesting to see what defines a user. My shop has over 16,000 people in AD, but not even half of them have a device issued to them.
>>55591451
You're an idiot, there was no bait and switch, enterprise software is never free. Go back to ricing your linux and let the adults worry about the systems administration.
>>55591548
I'm in the opposite situation. We have about 4000 people in my office; most of them have 2 computers, some have 3.
If those 3 computers counts as a 3 'people', then the cost would be so prohibitive that buying Macs for everyone would be cheaper after 2-3 years.
>>55591463
In the long run for most companies it would be cheaper to drop windows.
>>55591330
Just wait until they lock features behind a paywall.
I mean they already kind of did with Bitlocker and Windows XP mode back on windows 7 home.
They gave you very easy options to upgrade your license to get those features
>>55591598
If anything it wouldn't relate to machines, but users. But there are plenty of people in the IT department who have anywhere between 2 and 7 ID's a piece, so would they be considered 2 - 7 different users? No one knows...
>>55591266
This is great for any company not planning on lasting more than about 2 years
>>55591266
isnt Bill Gates already rich as fuck
why does he need to be such a bitch ass with his money hungry company
>>55591425
>>55591606
Even Enterprise distros of *nix charge monthly or yearly fees. Red Hat is $799/991 a year for a Standard Enterprise subscription. Ubuntu OpenStack is $640 a year for Standard, or $95,000 a year for a "small region" of 100 or less nodes. Suse Enterprise is $799 a year for Standard. You guys are idiots if you really thought the majority enterprise software wasn't already subscription-based. It's not Windows-specific.
>>55591266
>that watermark
You'll do better next time, OP. I believe in you!
>>55591757
People think that just because they run an open source OS it means they have a team that is dedicated to hunting through the kernel and other obscure shit to fix problems. It is true to an extent, but in reality if you have the time to spend on that you aren't dealing with high availability in the first place.
>>55591330
But, Black Dynamite, I use the Enterprise version.
>>55591515
>cut 14$/month from every wage
>problem solved
>>55591875
We're union. Good luck with that.
>>55591904
We Never Sleep. Good luck with that.
>>55591646
>so would they be considered 2 - 7 different users?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Microsoft go to per core + client enterprise desktop licensing like they do for servers.
Their nebulous corporate licensing is so bad that they have a certification to help you understand their licensing scheme.
>>55591266
>Red Hat workstations at 200$/year and Red Hat standalone self-support being at 50$ a year
>Red Hat designing btrfs, Gnome and systemd
>>55591757
Yeah but for that price you can deploy that on as much computers as you want. For Windows Enterprise that's 7$ per user thrown in the wild (with no support).
>enterprise version
Party is over, everyone go home.
Still, fuck Windows 10.
t. windows 7 user.
>>55591457
>hipster startups
they use macbooks
>>55592155
This. They're not even removing the existing licensing programs, so the only ones affected by this are the ones who actively choose to subscribe instead of buying a license.
>>55591330
According to microsoft policies, enterprise edition is the only version of windows 10 that does not have spyware.
>>55591266
fuck off
>>55592225
I might be wrong, but isn't it so that Enterprise is the only version where you can turn it off, rather than where there is none?
>microsoft enterprise licensing going even more complicated
t-thanks
>>55591425
this. only mormons would trust a company like microsoft
>>55592249
>for now
>>55592249
>for now
>being charged for being a part of a botnet
That's a new level of kikery.
>>55592287
Sauce
>>55591266
Wincuckolds on suicide watch
>>55592287
>>55592315
>Baseless speculation by a random journalist
>Being a predictor of absolutely anything
>>55592378
file name
>>55592410
Already know Boku no Pico, and it ain't from that.
>>55592252
>turn it off
>>55592252
If you knew how to properly configure your modem and router, it wouldn't even matter.
>>55591406
Microsoft knows this, so they'll end up making it so new products won't work on Windows 7. Examples being the new Windows Server, none of the Windows 7 tools currently work on it. Sure, you can give only the sysadmins Windows 10. Then soon will come new versions of Office that only works on 10 so on and so forth.
>>55592388
>Baseless Speculation
>>55591838
There's literally no reason to use Enterprise unless you're the IT admin of a company.
>>55592481
>new versions of Office that only works on 10
Office 2016 doesn't work in 7
>>55592481
Nice lies you got there faggot
>>55592516
How about having no ads and spyware telemetry?
>>55592450
Who needs security updates anyway?
>>55591266
>posting this FUD clickbait
Forbes has gone down the drain
>>55592543
You can still get security updates while disabling "PC-phone-home" behavior. Don't play dumb and learn to configure your firewall properly.
>>55592534
>ads
>spyware telemetry
[citation needed]
>>55592552
That's not a priority for me, but I didn't know that, thanks! (I run Linux)
>>55592548
Forbes was garbage the second they started doing "video game reviews"
>>55592450
>currently live on a campground
>all they offer is shitty wifi: open-mesh cloudtrax
Not an option, familia
>>55592555
Stop believing you're entitled to a citation on 4chan, and most particularly when you can read the EULA or fucking Google it.
Microsoft has been planning to move to a subscription model for years.
>>55592555
Try google
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=windows+10+start+menu+ads&client=ubuntu&hs=9Us&biw=1323&bih=600&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic8su_t_bNAhWJK8AKHTK1DW4Q_AUIBigB
>>55592571
You should be more concerned about getting a job, not getting spyware.
The only reason I use Windows is because of video games.
>>55591757
>Even Enterprise distros of *nix charge monthly or yearly fees.
for support
you're buying support
you can run enterprise nix for free if you don't go crying to red hat when shit breaks
>>55592525
>You need at least Windows 8 to use admin tools on Windows Server 2012
>Office 2016 does not work on Windows 7
>Lying
>>55592543
>Who needs security updates anyway
>>55592589
Just only play games that have Linux ports, totally viable now thanks to valve.
>>55592592
From Red Hat:
>Is Red Hat Enterprise Linux available for free or low cost?
>It is a commercial product and not available for free.
>>55592611
I'm not going to limit myself to shitty indie games just because they're the only ones that run on Linux. I spent good money on a 970 and plan to use it.
>>55592614
That's why people get CentOS
>>55592632
Red Hat:
>Also, layered products such as Red Hat Application Stack, Red Hat Directory Server and Red Hat Satellite are only supported on top of Red Hat Enterprise Linux subscriptions. Many hardware, software and security certifications are only valid on Red Hat Enterprise Linux and not the rebuilds.
CentOS:
>A free rebuild of source packages from the Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
>>55592628
Plenty of fancy AAA game ports to Linux too now, it isn't all indy games as of the last year or two.
>>55592651
You do realise CentOS is Redhat with /etc/issue changed
>>55592601
I was being ironical, but thanks for the graphic, I'm saving that.
>1754 critical breaches
>Linux
>32
>cheekles nervously
>>55592672
Witcher 3 (2015's GOTY) isn't on it.
>>55592687
I know what CentOS is m8, but I'm not sure you know what enterprise software entails. The majority of enterprise software is subscription based. Microsoft is not unique in this regard.
>>55592614
That's why people build it from source
>>55591406
>I can see a large number of companies moving to Mac
>t. fag who has never had a job
lol
>>55592581
>limited/basic amount of diagnostic and usage data = spyware botnet big brother skynet
>"ads" (MS products and news tile, kek) that you can easily disable and remove from the start menu
and thank you for using google, hypocrite
>>55592701
Tons aren't on Linux.
If you need to play specific Windows games like Witcher 3 this obviously isn't going to work for you.
>>55592718
I see you took a while to come up with a damage control, retard
>>55592718
>Burger king
>Candy crash
>>>>"Microsoft products"
Mouthbreathing windumbs get the fuck out instantly
>>55592703
>I'm not sure you know what enterprise software entails.
>It's what I say is right and what you say is wrong
>>55592759
You can believe whatever you like bud. I'm just telling it like it is. The majority of business enterprise software is commercial, and commercial software costs money.
>>55591266
>put a poo in loo in charge
>every single move you make is the very definition of retarded
>>55592785
Name one software that runs on Redhat but not in CentOS.
You can't because you are talking out of your ass. Shut up
>>55592614
>Hey guise is there a Windows server version for home users?
>No, all windows servers are for servers
>Ergo Windows doesn't exist for home users
This is how retarded you are.
Switching to OSX.
>>55592852
>Enterprise distros like Red Hat charge a subscription to use.
>"you can run enterprise nix for free"
>Red Hat Enterprise Linux "is a commercial product and not available for free"
How would they even charge you money if you've already upgraded?
>>55592672
>AAA games
Strange way of spelling manchild games
>>55592611
Steam is still proprietary software. Fuck that.
>>55592732
None of these things apply to Windows. They are for Outlook, OneDrive, etc.
Same terms apply to pretty much any cloud service ever. Especially Google's
>>55591515
You are really fucking stupid if you think Microsoft would ask companies to give $7 per computer.
Do you also think that companies go and buy their windows licenses at a store or some shit?
Nigger, they have bulks deals that end up costing WAY less than that.
>>55592889
>Implying Pro and Home versions don't have them enabled
>Implying Google drive is enabled in your PC
>He thinks spyware telemetry can be disabled in Pro and Home
wew lad you are trying really hard
>>55592916
you can disable all the cloud service
telemetry is not personal data
>>55592916
Disable them via your firewall like every other intelligent anon and get on with your life.
>>55591266
>Enterprise Windows costs money
>Always did
>Always will
>Remove the "Enterprise" from headline
>Suddenly 10/10 clickbait
>>55592947
>Disable them via your firewall
>Update
>New list of IPs to disable
I'd rather not be fighting with my own OS
>>55592936
>Telemetry is not personal data
Sure, all those metadata of my storage and keylogs are not personal data
>>55592974
>New list of IPs to disable
Fortunately, wrong.
>>55592974
The size of a file is not the file's contents. The date when a file was modified is not the modification made to the file. etc.
>>55592974
basic telemetry does not include any of those things
Lying fearmongers like you only makes people ignore real privacy concerns.
>>55593019
I have issues with the date modified.
Furthermore there are keylogs and metadata of my internet traffic. You can't disable them.
>>55593042
>real privacy concerns
Such as?
>>55593047
There is no keylogger outside of the opt-in version which is clearly labelled as such in large bold letters and for "Windows Insiders".
Don't use IE. Even Chrome and Firefox will send metadata of internet traffic if you let them.
>>55592972
Any other version of Windows has always costed money, too.
...idiot.
>>55591330
Ahmm, the one which is the only where you can disable the telemetry?
>>55591463
>they will never replace it with a different operating system
unfortunately for their customers this is apparently microsoft's motto each time they make a decision. At this point they have full confidence they can push anything on their users.
>>55593132
>Implying you can disable telemetry on Enterprise
You can set it to Security, which doesn't disable it.
>>55592972
You don't see all the pieces are there? they give the versions where they can collect data on their users for free and the versions where this can be disabled costs money. Now with the forced updates they can effectively lock you from your computer. At some point their users will probably need to pay for windows with either their data or their money. Let's hope i'm wrong for the sake of all of you.
>>55591266
W7 forever a best.
>>55593219
>Windows 10
>free
when will this fucking meme die? Windows 10 licenses are being sold in stores right now.
