Hey guys, let's have a home server general.
I was wondering - what is the benefit of an old Xeon processor over a newer low end CPU like the celeron in this?
According to CPU boss the celeron outperforms the xeon. Does that mean it is straight up better?
I am monitoring this thread
>>55581149
>CPU Boss
Don't.
Depending on the server use the CPU might be pretty much irrelevant or of prime importance. "Server" doesn't really say anything.
>>55581149
What are some cool things to do with a home server?
>>55581172
Well, do modern low end server CPUs do a better job than 6 year old mid or high end server cpus?
Xeon E5520 for example
>>55581191
Personal VPN
>>55581237
>200W idle
Yes.
I fell for Syncthing meme. It turned out that it consume ridiculous amount of cpu (50-100% of 2ghz 1core xeon and even more on a client side) and 300-1000mb of memory while transferring only 3-5Mb/s on 8Mb/s channel.
So what alternatives do i have? Is btsync better?
Btw how can i force syncthing to verify local data?
do you guys enjoy wasting money? just use an old laptop for a server, or a raspberry pi if you must purchase something
A simple raspberry pi is excellent for a personal email server.
>>55581149
http://stores.ebay.com/SaveMyServer
Great place to buy them used. Cheap as fuck.
>>55581149
ECC memory. They are also incredibly cheap, but not much point buying one.
>>55581816
That makes me super sad. I was about to give it a shot in the near future. I probably will still test it just to see if my mileage varies but now I'm less hopeful.
>>55582659
Yeah maybe I could get a CPU from there. Big servers would be expensive to ship
>>55581149
What do you guys do with these? I looked up that you can host game servers and have home theaters. What else can you do?
>>55582970
You can
Have a personal VPN
Access your files at home
Have a file server
Have a mail server
Have a web server
Monitor network activities
Automate house lighting
>>55581149
here's this beaut
>>55583646
Cool what do you do with it?
Any thoughts on the microserver?
>>55583658
I'm not such a fan of micro servers except for file servers. I am still building this one. Just go the my new RAID controller in today. Old one only supported 0/1. Still need to buy drives but they are expensive. just using it as file server right now but will be using as VM server (probably poroxmox) when I get the disks. I did get a second proc for it but i think it was faulty. installed a new one tonight so I am testing to see how it holds up.
>>55583532
>You can
>Have a personal VPN
Cheaper and easier to just purchase
>Access your files at home
Any cloud storage company will have better up/download speeds unless you're in your own home (which defeats the purpose of a file server)
>Have a file server
Faster to get with a company or on a VPS
>Have a mail server
Very unreliable and not secure
>Have a web server
Useless with home Internet speeds
>Monitor network activities
You don't need a server for this and unless you're an uber neet there's literally no point
>Automate house lighting
A server is overkill
>>55583716
>have a personal VPN
Forgot to mention that a VPN on your own network completely defeats the purpose of a VPN as the IP will still belong to you and your ISP can still see everything you're doing
>>55583716
yes goy store your files on this american server, why not use us as your vpn as well?
>>55581149
The reason you use a Xeon CPU or even a later i3 is ECC ram support.
If you doing any kind of 99% uptime always on application like a file store or large application even game servers with large assets or maps you want ECC or your going to have problems
If you cant find a good Xeon to fit your needs some i3 processors support ECC as well
Keep your data safe
>>55583716
Lmao leave.
>>55583764
Whats the benefit of ECC?
>>55583691
I guess it makes sense. There's really not a lot I can do in my country (Australia) that isnt basically buying 10 year old servers or getting a microserver.
>>55583732
>Forgot to mention that a VPN on your own network completely defeats the purpose of a VPN
That's because you think a VPN's only purpose is to hide your data from your ISP
>Any cloud storage company will have better up/download speeds unless you're in your own home (which defeats the purpose of a file server)
How does using a file server in your own home defeat the purpose? I practically only use my file server at home.
>Faster to get with a company or on a VPS
Not when you're at home.
>Very unreliable and not secure
Not necessarily
>Useless with home Internet speeds
Not really
>You don't need a server for this and unless you're an uber neet there's literally no point
True
>A server is overkill
Not if you're already using it for something else. Besides, whatever device you use for the purpose is a server.
>>55583789
Then again what do most people do with home servers? My guess is holding their pirated media..
>>55583716
>not running your own server
>sucking off the tit of 3rd party services selling your data
>not being able to follow simple instructions from a google search to lock down your server
>not having a always on device running open source software to host your files encrypted anywhere in the world
>realizing that most cable internet upload speeds are enough to serve encoded media to external clients
>being
Dell PowerEdge T620 (2x Xeon 2660 / 192GB / 2x 240 GB PNY 1311 / 4x 480GB PNY 1311 / 12x Hitachi Ultrastar (7K3000) 3TB)
Server 2012 R2 Datacenter w/ Storage Spaces.
240's are RAID 1 and for OS + tools
480's are in tiered pool with 2TB drives.
3TB presented to Hyper-V. Presented as multiple mirror. Only VM pool is tiered.
1TB presented as temp transfer share. No redundancy.
1TB presented to profiles. Presented as multiple mirror. Roaming profiles are enabled. This may change.
12TB presented to Plex. Drive is offline to VHOST, and presented directly to VM. Redundancy is RAID 5.
VM count - 22 production
4x DC
2x NS w/ DHCP
Sharepoint
Team Foundation Server
System Center Operations Manager
Plex (8 core / 8GB RAM / 80GB OS / 12GB Media / 2012 R2)
System Center Configuration Manager
SQL
Offline root CA
AD Subordinate CA
2x Exchange 2013 CAS
2x Exchange 2012 MBX
Dirsync
AD Federation Service
NAP / VPN / Direct connect
PBX
Firewall - PCEngines APU1D4 (128GB SSD / Untangle)
Switch - Dell X1018P (16 port GIGE managed PoE + 2SFP)
AP - EAP1750H (PoE)
Phone - Polycom CX700 (5 in service)
I run about 60 email accounts off the Exchange cluster. Largely testing, but 17 of the AD accounts are actual users that connect at least every 24 hours. I'm starting to plan the migration to Microsoft 2016 (Server 2016 / SCCM 2016 / Exchange 2016 / SQL 2016 / Win 10). If things continue to go as they have been, that's not going to happen. Server 2016 likes to get stupid when it's a VM.
If I didn't need all of the above, I'd be running a Xeon 1240v3 w/ 16GB RAM, Open Media Vault, Plex, and 6x 4TB drives. My experience with OMV suggests that it does Plex better, by defaulting it to a service, and not requiring user login.
>>55583797
Backup everything on all your home machines
Share media to multiple devices
Have a central space to DVR live tv and security cameras to
Backup your physical movies and disks and serve them via the network without the hassle of disks
Host a always on service like a website or game server/voice chat server
Running virtual machines for hardware specific programs like freePBX for phones
>>>55583732 (You)
>>Forgot to mention that a VPN on your own network completely defeats the purpose of a VPN
>That's because you think a VPN's only purpose is to hide your data from your ISP
The only other thing it's for is making it seem like you're located somewhere else so you can watch Netflix or something. Which a home VPN also won't accomplish.
>>55583883
It doesn't work for Netflix but it does work for things that require you to be on your home Internet connection
>>55583895
>>55583883
Also if you're connecting to public Wi-Fi it's recommended you use one
>>55583867
>>55583883
Dial to home VPN
>>55583883
A local VPN can also be used to authenticate and identify users accessing network resources from outside the network.
For instance, say you have an application on a server. The server only allows users who are connected locally at the VPN address access to itself, otherwise it denies all inbound connections. Users then must connect to the VPN with their credentials prior to accessing the resource on the server.
>>55583716
>Have a personal VPN
>Cheaper and easier to just purchase
>Any cloud storage company will have better up/download speeds
Good goy.
>microserver
get the fuck out with that wanabee poorfag shit
if it didn't cost you $2k+ it is not a fucking server
you poorfaggots need to learn that you are not wanted
>>55584328
>if it didn't cost you $2k+ it is not a fucking server
That's not how that works.
>server |ˈsərvər|
>noun
>a computer or computer program that manages access to a centralized resource or service in a network.
>>55584328
that is exactly how it works - all the pi and microshit server faggots have no clue about real enterprise hardware
if it is in any way intended for home use then its just a bullshit toy and anyone using it should be laughed at and driven out of those threads
same with power use, if you moan about that then your obviously poor and should be laughed at and told to fuck off because real adults want to discuss real hardware in these threads, not poorfag children
i am fucking sick of it
>>55584443
>ooh look at me I have an über gud server lol u guise suck
You pretend to be such a big man yet you're more childish than the people you're calling children.
forget electricity cost. (why are you considering a server if you care about cost).
look on auction sites for when corporations sell off their out-of-warrenty servers.
get yourself 1..n ibm severs x3250 etc.
>>55584538
>(why are you considering a server if you care about cost).
Because you want a server.
>>55584553
then get a fucking job, leech
>>55584567
Are you fucking retarded?
Can I stream video from a server? I'd like to circumvent my laptops low SSD size by storing all my media on a server.
>>55583732
>Forgot to mention that a VPN on your own network completely defeats the purpose of a VPN as the IP will still belong to you and your ISP can still see everything you're doing
Home VPN are good to use when on public/university wifi to defeat MIM attacks.
>>55584575
stop watching anime you pedo weeaboo faggot
>>55584575
Yes
>>55584538
cont.
the people that place the servers on sites for sale usually don't know what's in them or what has been added.
you can get servers with all sorts of expensive add-on options.
What OS do you recommend?
CentOS?
Amahi?
Debian?
RHEL?
Windows?
posting
oldish pic of rack - in middle of rejigging things - yuyuko is getting replaced with 2 x HP Microserver N36L and i'll perhaps re-purpose her case with a pi cluster, see how it pans out
>>55581191
Media Server (samba at home, sftp remote)
TeamSpeak/FileServer for friends
personal programming availability 24/7 w/o github shit
Seedbox
Personal VPN
Allows for 24/7 external VPN on other local systems as you can access them locally when you SSH into the server
Bruteforcing neighbors WiFi 24/7
Video game servers
Learning and mastering the command line and linux in general
>>55581149
i been thinking of getting a n3700 as my seedbox,nas,plex server,but im wondering if i can uses a u1 case with itx
i run two old esxi hosts with LGA771 processors, probably eat atleast over 200w in idle
wouldnt recommend to anyone, sure new stuff would be nice but i have lost interest in playing around with servers anyway desu, i just want them to run. i dont know what would be reasonable replacements for these anyway and i have absolutely 0 interest these days to set up anything new, and i cant afford anything anyway atm
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin/comments/2s924h/how_did_you_get_your_start/cnnw1ma
any thoughts on this? might try this because have nothing better to do with my time currently.
>>55581149
I ordered the case for my next NAS today. Going to start ordering drives soon.
>>55586254
IMHO I'd say start smaller.
1. Build/buy/re-purpose a half decent machine
2. Install hyper-visor on bare metal
3. Create VM for (insert service you want to mess around with here).
4. Repeat step 3
>tfw out of town and VPN stopped working
Couldn't remote into my servers. When I got home the machine was running but I just restarted the openvpn server.
Anyway to automate a restart or something next time so this doesn't happen?
>>55588277
Daily cron scheduled reboot at 3AM or something maybe.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/13730/how-can-i-schedule-a-nightly-reboot
my setup. nothing fancy but working on expanding my test domain environment, going to add another domain for trusts and work on sccm deployment
very happy with my dl380 so far, cheap, powerful, draws hardly any energy and quiet as fuck. my fucking switch is the loudest part of this
Guys no matter what don't buy those shitty prebuilt NAs.
I reccomend buying used servers, blade servers on eBay and replacing the case fans. Buy 2 or 4u as 1u fans are just too loud.
The features in a used server are amazing for price. Buitin hotswap HDD arrays with raid?
Also replace the processors with low power xeons or disable cores and you have a great machine
my server
>1x 250 gb hitachi deskstar hdd, 1x 128 seagate baracuda (both for files) and 1x 40gb western digital hdd for system
>>55585417
centos if you want enterprise-level stable (chances are you don't)
fedora (or fedora server) if you still want redhat based but packages from this century
debian otherwise
>>55586347
please tell me those aren't american or canadian dollars
that's only worth it if its 500 yen or pesos not fucking dollars
what are you smoking anon
>>55586347
Just go on eBay and buy a used blade server you cuck. Put it under your bed
>>55584575
Even vlc has that functionality. Google it.
Do half of you even know what VPN is? Hint: its not primarily a anon tool.
Its used to make a virtual private network, so you can access network resources.
>>55585818
Disable cores my friend.
>>55584443
Why the fuck would anyone need enterprise level hardware to serve a single household, possibly a single person? This is purely hobbyist shit, a good learning experience, and a great to get people into linux/Unix systems. Buying a fucking poweredge off of eBay is perfectly fine but that level of processing power is total overkill for even a large household.
Kill yourself.
mini runs ubiquiti management stuff for the AP's
Cisco 2970
pfSense on a super micro quad core atom
20tb zfs pool for plex/stuff (ubuntu & zol)
dells for ESXi (dc's, dns, proxy, citrix, etc)
>>55584465
>>55584465
You are getting trolled my friends
Also anyone here got their house wired up? I'm thinking about setting up p2p 10gbe to server.
>>55588684
>server
>uptime 26m
>>55588925
>Its used to make a virtual private network
It really makes you think
>>55585496
>uptime 1m
>>55583732
>Forgot to mention that a VPN on your own network completely defeats the purpose of a VPN
???
>use public wifi
>dont want data to be sniffed
>dial home vpn
>>55588983
Troll or not, the guy has a fucking point. The people trying to brag about some stupid pi for a seedbox or some other arcane bullshit like plugging a laptop drive via USB into it for storage really are on a different level.
>>55588453
Thanks!
>>55588494
Why did you pick up a 24 port switch?
Unless it was for free or very cheap ofcourse
>>55582970
I have my gaming PC also serve as a webserver. Practically unlimited disk space to host my files and web pages. Well, it's actually around 8TB but still.
>>55583732
The purpose of VPN is to have access to your network while not being connected to LAN. For example, I still have access to my fileserver even while I'm actually far far away from home.
It's not to hide your ass from the popo. Although it can also be used for that. You can pretend you're at home while actually being outside :^)
Anyone run CEPH?
Been wanting to set it up, but it doesn't seem mature yet.
RAM is good
>>55589077
That guy was talking about corporate level gear.
A hobbyist doesn't have to have that to be classified as one.
And an RPi can still be a decent server, even if it's just for the entrylevel hobbyist
>>55584443
>i am fucking sick of it
Nobody cares.
> real adults
So not you then.
>microshit server
The MicroServer G8 is part of HP's enterprise lineup. Get over it.
>>55581149
>According to CPU boss the celeron outperforms the xeon.
The fuck are you on about? The xeon 1240v2 in my microserver is shitloads faster than that crappy g1610t.
>>55589138
$60 is cheap enough for me, definitely cheaper than comparable ciscos that i was looking at
i paid $70 for a fanless 24 port which is in my office to link everything together.
>>55588648
>4U
What is "a big fan"?
>>55590169
If you are using zfs on solaris, you would just create the pool encrypted. ZOL doesnt support encryption yet.
>>55588978
Hey, you're the awesome guy with the ZUN Microsystems box!
>20tb zpool
So I have to ask for some advice as I am looking at setting up ZFS for the first time, for the drives in my backup system, which uses Bacula for a not-so-large amount of data. Only unusual aspects are encryption and drive mirroring (50% is a high cost but it's a backup system for modest amounts of data). I currently run it with pairs of identical drives in Software RAID1 (mdadm) with LUKS on top, followed by ext4. Bacula is neat in that I just give it a place to put files on each drive and it manages storage between/across them as it needs to.
So:+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| Ext4 Partition | | Ext4 Partition |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| LUKS | | LUKS |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| Software RAID (mdadm) | | Software RAID (mdadm) |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| 1TB Drive | 1TB Drive | | 3TB Drive | 3TB Drive |
+-----------+-----------+ +-----------+-----------+
But if I were to transition to ZFS, how do I best achieve mirroring and LUKS encryption? I could simply replace Ext4 with ZFS and then I get this:+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| ZFS Partition | | ZFS Partition |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| LUKS | | LUKS |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| Software RAID (mdadm) | | Software RAID (mdadm) |
+-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
| 1TB Drive | 1TB Drive | | 3TB Drive | 3TB Drive |
+-----------+-----------+ +-----------+-----------+
who else /10Gb/ here?
>>55590200
Sorry to delete my post, I was fighting with the formatting...
>If you are using zfs on solaris
It's running Linux.
The more I read the more I see talk of zpools and zraid mirrors and wonder if ZFS is so different that I am going about this the wrong way? I'm not mixing-and-matching a bunch of random drives. I have 2 identical 3TB drives and 2 identical 1TB drives, so even if ZPools do offer some super special magic, what layer of my current reality do they fall into?
>>55583764
>you want ECC or your going to have problems
please stop spreading this meme.
>>55590241
please stop posting.
>>55590223
Personally I would stick with your current solution. If you are just planning on sticking another filesystem on top of zfs, it kind of defeats the purpose of zfs. I would only consider it when looking to do large storage pools. That being said, solaris does use zfs for single drives which gives your the ability to scrub the filesystem.
Big fan of this new ESXi server. It's a mid tower and runs silent. Bought off Amazon for 1100$
>>55590268
>If you are just planning on sticking another filesystem on top of zfs, it kind of defeats the purpose of zfs.
That isn't my plan, sorry if I mis-spoke. I'm trying to use ZFS for the storage and put Ext in the past. Is there anything wrong with using just ZFS on Linux?
From what I've gathered ZFS kind of combines RAID into its file system capabilities. Please correct me if that assumption is wrong, but my question is could be better phrased as:
If I use ZFS, and it brings along its RAID capabilities, does my layering look like this?+------------------+ +------------------+
| ZRAID Mirror (?) | | ZRAID Mirror (?) |
+-------+--+-------+ +-------+--+-------+
| LUKS | | LUKS | | LUKS | | LUKS |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
| Drive | | Drive | | Drive | | Drive |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
Or does it look more like this?+----------------------------------------+
| Something About "ZPools" |
+-------+--+-------+--+-------+--+-------+
| ZFS | | ZFS | | ZFS | | ZFS |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
| LUKS | | LUKS | | LUKS | | LUKS |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
| Drive | | Drive | | Drive | | Drive |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
>>55590353
There is no reason to not use just ZFS. As for how the layering looks, and I could be wrong on this, when you encrypt a pool, the filesystem is encrypted. If you are planning to use an unencrypted pool to store a LUKS container, I have no idea, I have never done/read about it.
>>55590407
To clarify, ZFS does not use LUKS.
>>55590407
>>55590423
I see, thanks for your help. I'll keep reading.
>>55590207 You dont need mdadm with zfs. Encrypt your disks, then use both dev/mapper devices for zfs.
>cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sd(a-d)
>cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda sd(a-d)-enc
>zpool create test mirror sda-enc sdb-enc mirror sdc-enc sdd-enc
It will create two mirrors (1tb and 3tb) and add them to a single pool (like a jbod)
>>55590470 Here is a script to mount them automagically. https://bitbucket.org/dewoodruff/zfs-on-linux-luks-mountvolumes/src
>>55591159
>>55591159
>dat drive space
pure sex
Hi there. I've posted this before, but I might as well do it again for some references. I was thinking of building a NAS with loads of storage, but since I was already going to spend that much on storage, then I might as well get higher performing parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VcCBPs. Does it look fine? I'm not getting a rack anytime soon and I don't know much about desktop redundant PSUs. I'll be on the lookout for Zen as well as an alternative next year.
Anyways, I have a few questions:
1) How are ZFS and btrfs on Debian? It seems that the former is preferred even if it's a port. On the latter, Debian's wiki on btrfs doesn't recommend running RAID5/6. I'd try it on my desktop, but all of the drives are in use.
2) People mention VMs, but what exactly would you do in a VM that you wouldn't do on the bare metal?
3) I'm thinking of using the not-bought-yet server mostly for ffmpeg encoding, network shares, mumble, e-mail, etc. Anything else I should setup?
3.1) Even though I won't try point 1) right now, what should I try to setup on the desktop to get my hands a little dirtier? There are samba shares and ssh on the local network, but that's it. I tried to ssh into my desktop the other day byssh <myuser>@<wan IP>, but I had no luck; the network knowledge is practically zero. I recently installed openwrt on the router, but I can't follow the wiki that well since there are some things I just don't know. Any further reading to help me git gud?
>>55591176
10x 6TB yields 36TB usable, unless I screw around with this, anyone ever fuck with that 80% threshold?
http://everycity.co.uk/alasdair/2010/07/zfs-runs-really-slowly-when-free-disk-usage-goes-above-80/
I "built" this server at the start of the new year to store my chinese cartoons. I used a shitty old dell I found on the road and an old 1tb hdd from an old build. Runs nas4free and works fine. Can anyone recommend some good drives 'cause I'm running out room with my rapid torrenting the past few days.
>>55591440
Forgot picture
>>55591159
I came a little out of my ass.
>>55588684
Anon why do you even bother?
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dc51TkS.jpg "large[1].jpg")
>>55591440
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145912
>>55591440
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/
>>55591531
Thank you anon.
>>55591577
I picked up 20 of the 2tb 6GB/s HGST's on ebay for 42 bucks each, haven't had an issue with any of them yet.
Running Deluge with Sonarr to have automated serie downloads.
I just use Kodi to watch them.
Planning on adding a VPN so I can access my network from the outside. Just have to decide whether or not to use my openwrt router or the server for this.
>>55591600
I've been using 3 of the 4TB drives for a while with about 3800 hours of runtime on each one. No problems with any of them.
(not a server though)
>>55591656
Nice, I have been thinking of moving up to 4tb, just waiting for the price to come down.
>>55584310
That's right! Show people what annoying, child-like dipshits stormfags really are. Keep up the excellent work, bubbie.
>>55591656
3800 hours is a brand new drive you know. Problems with that is pretty much DOA.
what alternatives are there to freenaas?
it's performance is ok, but by god the webui is clunky as shit
>>55591791
how comfortable are you with linux/bsd?
Okay.
>>55591843
>>55591856
>>55591843
info?
>>55591843
>>55591856
>>55591868
That's a cute rack
>>55591868
>>55591874
Sure:
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 960T
8 GB DDR?
LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068E
6x500 GB RAID5 for media
2x1TB RAID1 for OS and important data
+ 2TB USB backup drive
>>55591898
THanks, it is adorable indeed.
>>55591803
i would say somewhere between very and extremely
I could just set up a barebones bsd or linux install on it and add the file serving stuff nyself, but figured I shoudl have something a bit mroe dedicated - besides, I'd never messed freenas before
but doing what I thought would be simple stuff seems obturse - want to kjnow how your ZFS si configured? think the storage manager will tell you? bzzz wrong, need to use console/ssh for that - feel wrong logging into webui as root? tough, that's all you can do etc.
it does teh job, sure, its just meh I dunno, I'm probably just old and crotchety, I should get a lawn and shotgun
>>55591913
very cool anon
How loud is it?
What's the rack/cases?
is the mikrotik any good?
>>55591933
I think doing a barebones install would be beneficial to you and give you much more freedom to play with it and set it up so that it isn't as annoying to you.
>>55591913
Forgot to add it's running Debian. Configured through my Ansible setup.
Mains services hosted:
- rtorrent + rutorrent
- mpd + ympd
- git + gogs
- owncloud
Most stuff runs from docker containers.
>>55591913
Are 500gb drives still worth it? Wouldn't 2x4tb drives in raid1 be simpler?
>>55591960
>docker
get the fuck out and shoot yourself you fucking hipster piece of shit
>>55591960
>Most stuff runs from docker containers.
I still haven't figured out how that shit works...
>>55591323
>I might as well get higher performing parts
Its an overkill.
Get g3900, h110m, 8gb or any similar used hardware with aes-ni and virtualization support. If you want use virtualization get i3-i5.
32gb sandisk cruzer fit, 300w psu
2x6tb toshiba x300. There is no need to buy drives before you need them.
>How are ZFS and btrfs on Debian?
Its working, but you will need to set everything up manually. Not worth it. Just use Freenas.
>>55591959
>very cool anon
Thanks.
>How loud is it?
When just the server at the bottom is running it's not noticeable unless you focus on it.
Surprisingly the bottom server doesn't have it's top panel on, it was louder WITH it on. Kinda like a guitar sound box I guess?
>What's the rack/cases?
Give me a second, I can find the links.
>is the mikrotik any good?
Cheap and works flawlessly.
>>55591992
Those drives are old as fuck. 4 out of 6 are I think older than 5 years old.
>>55591999
hahahahahaha
>>55592001
It's actually very simple as long as you have some decent linux basics knowledge.
>>55591959
meh maybe - ill test it a bit more before deciding
perhaps im just being picky and it will grow on me
>>55592043
I really need to get a decent file server.
mine currently tops out at 10MB/s
copying that much data would easily take me all night
>>55592029
>>55591959
Rack: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19-Data-Comms-IT-15U-600x600-19-SERVER-RACK-NETWORK-IT-CABINET-ACCESSORIES-/271750927025?hash=item3f459e12b1:g:ChQAAOSwZG9Wk7Mb
Cases: https://www.xcase.co.uk/products/x-case-rm-400-10-v5-550mm-4u-atx-rackmount-usb-3-120mm-fans-rail-kit
WARNING: I had to CUT down the rails a bit to fit the cases in.
>>55591176
Except a blade server can do that, have hotswap, and hardware raid, all for 350 dollars.
>>55592082
But the rack is indeed quite cute.
I wish I could keep it on it's wheels but then it wouldn't fit under my desk.
>>55592029
Ah fair enough, I did think they were probably spares.
I found 3-4tb to be the sweet spot in terms of price.
>>55590348
You could have gotten double the power for half the money.
Question about rails:
I have some random, cheap 4U cases I got as hand-me-downs.
How universal are rails to properly mount them?
>>55592003
Yes, it's overkill, I already mentioned it on the very same post. I'll work on it later, it's just the most I would use since I already use ffmpeg very often on just 4 cores without SMT.
>There is no need to buy drives before you need them.
Anon, I have about 19TB on the desktop already. Using RAIDz2 will give 16TB of usable space which would be fine until SSDs catch up in price/GB.
>Not worth it. Just use Freenas.
No.
>>55592098
>hardware raid
You're implying this is a good thing
>>55592082
>>55592106
that's very nice anon
thanks for the info
looks like a cool setup you've got
have a nice day
>>55592106
Kek, looks like a mini-fridge for beer.
>>55592180
Hah, it kinda does.
>>55592203
That looks pretty cute.
>>55592069
thats writing to 4 x 2TB in RAIDZ2 over gigabit - comparing it with RAID10 or zfs equiv in striped mirrored volumes anyways
>>55583716
Talk for yourself
1 gbps simetric here
>>55581816
How long ago was this? What kind of data were you syncing? I've found Syncthing very resource-light, even when doing full-throttle syncing over WLAN. I'm an extreme Unix purist, and (despite the local web server interface) I've loved Syncthing so far.
>>55584575
sshfs+mpv=joy
>>55588746
They're Ameribucks.
>>55588894
I wanted a case that held 20 HDDs and didn't sound like a freight train.
>>55592757
should have just bought a supermicro.
there is nothing you can say that isnt going to make you look like a fucking retard
>>55592832
I don't really care what you think. It's the case I wanted for the machine I'm building.
This is my new home server.
Supposed run a docker environment
and the usual samba, transmission and dlna .
>>55592757
I dunno, Norco case with supermicro board and 2 dell HBAs. Works well and is rather cheap, but I would get a difference case. Norco cases are pretty bad.
>>55592854
It's a LIan li case. I will probably go with a Supermicro board. I'm still looking for a Sata controller that doesn't have any unneeded bells and whistles as I'm going to use RAIDZ2 or RAIDZ3. 72TB of double parity storage should last me a while.
>>55591159
>>55591172
>All those drives.
>One (?) connector for all of them.
How are those connected? Is this the power of the "SAS" acronym I keep seeing?
>>55592913
>lian li
>supermicro
>sata
holy shit this is getting worse with each post
>>55592913
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=342-0910
You can find these rather cheap from recycling places, at least in the US. I got mine for 75ish a piece.
>>55592940
>lian li
It's a case, who cares.
>supermicro
I'm not set on Supermicro yet but they seem to have the best boards for the job.
>sata
Should I use IDE like you? Or should I use SCSI?
SATA just works.
0/10 poor bait is poor.
>>55592954
These aren't bad. I'd like to find a card that can run 10 drives. This way I only need two. We'll see how that goes.
>>55592993
When I was looking, I only found 2, 4, 8 and 12.
>>55582753
I suggest giving it a shot. I'm an extremely picky Unix nerd and I've loved Syncthing.
>>55593045
12 ports also works. I'd have four extra ports between two cards but it would get the job done. I wonder if ordering a 12 and an 8 would be a good idea. I'd e be using software RAID anyways.
>>55593045
and dual variants. I got 2x, 2x 4 port, but the chassis is only 16 drives.
>>55583716
/thread
Stop fucking around with servers you autists and get a life
>>55593070
If you go with a Dell card (LSI chipset) make sure you get an IT and not an IR. Some of them can be crossflashed to IT mode, but not all. If you end up with IR you will lose throughput.
>>55592932
that board has 3 mini-SAS ports, each one can deliver 4x SATA3 6gbit
>>55593093
Ok, thanks anon.
>>55592940
lian li is excellent, aluminum is light and stiff.
>>55593095
Thank you. Can I also ask if there is anything worth knowing about the assignment of drives in such 4x drive "groups"? For instance, if you were to have various drives mirrored, would you want them to be on the same 4x port/daisy-chain or would you want to distribute them with one on each port/connector?
>>55593126
>lian li is excellent
Agreed. Maybe not for a purely utilitarian server build, but I bought my first Lian Li case in 2010 and have gone back ever since for anything that wasn't in the category of "out of sight workhorse" or "as low budget as possible".
Could i use one to work as a personal email server?
(Not a hillary joke im serious)
>>55593182
>>55593210
I went with Lian Li due to the size and it will be visible. I wanted it to at least look nice.
>>55593182
you flash the SAN controller to "passthrough" and act as port multiplier
>>55585417
FreeBSD if you need a more complex setup, ZFS, and/or enterprise features; OpenBSD if you want a simple, boot-and-forget server that is secure.
Fuck, I hate non-rack mounted "servers". Like honestly don't even call yourself a server. Get rack mounted EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. Just put it on a desk or something. Everything else looks non-U disgusting to me.
>>55588746
>please tell me those aren't american or canadian dollars
Wew lad! Don't be comparing genuine US Dollars to that European-style, Monopoly money that they use up in Canadia.
>>55590353
>Is there anything wrong with using just ZFS on Linux?
Yes, there is. It sucks, and has been made to suck deliberately, due to the rampant faggotry of the Linux development community. If you want ZFS, then you want BSD or Solaris.
