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Why is that so many tech savvy people complain about the "outdated"
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Why is that so many tech savvy people complain about the "outdated" specs on an iPhone as opposed to its competition, when it performs the same, if not better in some aspects (as most phones are)?

Then even within the Android ecosystem, so many of you seem to get off on meaningless specifications, geekbench scores, and stupid-high display resolution.

Aside from battery life, and cameras, these devices perform on par with each other, whether it be an iPhone, Sony Xperia Z, Samsung Galaxy S, etc...

I find even more ridiculous how the general public participates in the phone wars, nonsense. Get over yourselves.

Why the bitching?
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Because shit specs and shit storage aren't the only problems on iPhones. See pic related.

>inb4 sour grapes
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Funny thing about that picture, the current Nexus devices don't have wireless charging because "the Type C connector can't be inserted the wrong way, so it no longer requires effort to charge your phone".

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 5X, but fuck companies for removing features.
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>>55560815
iPhones always release with the fastest processor and storage on the market
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>>55560843
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>>55560868
Keep meming poorfag
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>>55560843
>iPhones always release with the fastest processor and storage on the market
Maybe but simply lack too many hardware and software features to be taken seriously. People want msd slots and the ability to torrent on their phones without hacking it. Apple can't deliver, period.
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>>55560886
The only poorfag here is you. Most iPhone users are actually constantly poor and have their shitty iPhones on a ~$20/month lease.
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Outdated?

iPhone has less ram but it still beats android when it comes to multi-tasking. A9 is still the best SoC out here (even 1 year later) and iPhone is still the only phone that has NVM storage (that makes a huge difference in real world performance)

What else do you need? Sure, iPhone doesnt have the most MP in a camera or the biggest resolutions but that its not really what you should be looking at when comparing screens and cameras.
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>>55560905
Whatever you say poorfag
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>>55560889
While I agree with the fact that a lot of people want mSD slot (e.g. the GS6 fiasco), I'm not sure that the majority of Androphone buyers care about torrent
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>>55560797
>when it performs the same
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>>55560889
>People want msd slots and the ability to torrent on their phones without hacking it
Nobody wants that m8
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>>55560935
Actually they do. It's a known fact that most 1080p yify downloaders are android users with 64-128 msd cards. Don't believe me, look that the torrent client ID's next time you download a rip.
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>>55560934
You are right. It actually performs much much better.

Iphones are currently about 30% faster than any other android flagship. Its almost pathetic.

Anyway, pic related is the reason I don't even consider android.
I like to receive updates on time and I don't want my device to be artificially obsolete in a couple of years.
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>>55560935
but i do lad
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>>55560934
>apps that only work on the latest iOS
love this meme!
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>>55560985
>this is what iDiots actually believe
Keep on memeing kid.
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>>55560970
>It's a known fact that most 1080p yify downloaders are android users with 64-128 msd cards

hahaha how delusional are you? Why are you watching movies on a phone?

also
>yify

a:10/v:10
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>>55561002
android is the only meme here, pajeet.
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>>55560985
Outdated chart. ~70% of users are on Marshmallow, ~20% on Lollipop, ~5% on Nougat, and ~5% on older versions.
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>>55560797
False. Even the two years old Z3 Compact has far better battery life than almost anything else right now, and nothing else has dual speakers and is waterproofed.

But who cares, let's just cut short and say this thread will be full of Applel sour grapes.

>>55560843
Samshit's processor is faster on what matters aka multitasking and the UFS storage is also faster than nvme in what matters aka random read and writes.
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>>55561046
this chart is from June 2016 from the official Android page. Kill yourself.
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>>55561021

>hahaha how delusional are you? Why are you watching movies on a phone?
Not all of us have 4" screen phones. Some of us aren't manlets and have 5.5" screen phones. Crazy I know.

>>yify
>a:10/v:10
It's good enough for a phone. Yeah there are better rips out there but you need a 256GB msd card to be able to download a lot of them. iPhones will never be able to use said msd cards btw lmao.
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>>55561066
>watching movies on a phone

kys
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>>55560985
Here's your (You)
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>>55561053
>Samshit's processor is faster on what matters
ahahahahaha
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>>55561084
>quality applel post
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>>55561079
#BTFO
B
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F
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>>55561053
>Samshit's processor is faster on what matters aka multitasking and the UFS storage is also faster than nvme in what matters aka random read and writes.
And they call iPhone users tech illiterate.
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>>55561077
>he doesn't watch anime on his phone wile in bed
its the ultimate comfy
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>>55561066
>I need a 256gb sd card to watch shitrips on 5.5" mediakek phones

fuck, that's too funny.
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>>55561079
So you posted exactly the same graphic?
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>>55561077
>being this much of a sour grape
How you enjoying your permanent 16GB of storage ipoor?
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>>55561107
>he doesn't own a notebook or a tablet
kys poorfag
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>>55561079
>>55561100
that's the exact same graph, you illiterate fuck
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>>55561118
He was talking about non-shit rips. Enjoy feeling salty as fuck when 512GB micro sd cards come out next year and all phones with SDXC micro sd slots accept them with 0 problems.
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>>55561133
>iToddler blind, stupid, or just can't see shit on his pathetic poorfag iToy with literal shit tier 1136x640 resolution
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>>55561131
lol you mad you bought a crippled phone?
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>>55561053
Samshit's processor is almost a year newer yet gets beat by iPhone in single-threading and multi-core scaling.
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>>55561147
Enjoy no software updates while I watch movies on my computer with decent sized screen not on a phone like a complete retard
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>>55561107
>watching anime on a phone
You are literally cancer, kill yourself
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>>55561161
>1136x640
Jesus christ, I thought this was just a joke.
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>>55561161
>pajeet so deluded that he literally hallucinates a different graph
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>muh sd cards
>muh yify movies

why are poorfags so pathetic?
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>>55560797
>these devices perform on par with each other, whether it be an iPhone, Sony Xperia Z, Samsung Galaxy S
Not really. iPhone doesn't lag.

>>55561053
I got Z3 Compact and SE, the battery life on SE is longer and most importantly, more consistent. I had my Z3C almost dying in the middle of the day and lasting two with about the same usage, while SE constantly lasts two days.

Also the speakers are shit on both but slightly more loud on SE, not that speakers on phone matters if you aren't black and/or underage.

>>55561107
>holding a phablet in your hands for hours is more comfy than simply watching it on a laptop
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>>55561175
Cry harder bitch ass nigga.
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>>55561170
>Single-threading
Why would I play Starcraft 2 on a phone ?
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>>55561163
mad you can't afford an actual phone?
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>>55561205
Its a 4 inch screen retard. Why the fuck would you need more than that?
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>>55561105
>can only practically do one thing at a time such a relatively small device
>multitasking is more important
I'd curious to know what exactly you're multitasking on, with a phone, and that's much different on iOS.

I have never once thought to do something more productive than writing an email, on phone. Even 5.5" phones are small as shit when it comes to doing productivity

>>55561053
I never said battery life doesn't matter. dipshit.
I specifically said it is one of the things that do.
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>>55561231
see >>55560905
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>>55561218
>iShit marketshare is shrinking so hard iToddlers can't even tell it's there when put next to android marketshare
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>>55560797
Because these "tech savvy" people actually aren't and basically all they know is 1 < 2 therefore 2GHz is better.
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>>55561240
Most apps on Android seems to use only one core, otherwise it's hard to explain the lag...
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>using android phones
>ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10UBsSo6O4I
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>>55560905
And they still have more money than Android users lmfao
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>yfw aplel users are too poor to afford phones with 1440p displays
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>>55561277
>a full 30s slower
holy shit, how can android users live with this?
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>>55561277
>iShit gets crushed in every test except Temple Run a known native iOS GAYME with a shitty zero effort port to android
Fuck off Rajeesh.
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>>55561309
>1440p
>on anything below 10"
What's the point?
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>>55561300
Whatever makes you sleep at night ipoor
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>>55560985
>and I don't want my device to be artificially obsolete in a couple of years . but anon, that's exactly what apple does. They make your phone obsolete with each and every new version of ios
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>>55561317
>its that one game guise I swear

hahahhaa
Poorfags never learn
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>>55561324
>posted from my 1136x640 piece of shit
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>>55561232
honestly, even an iPhone user, I think they're all the same shit.

and could the other manufactures quit this 1440p and 4k nonsense? The difference is so miniscule, they may as well flat out lie and give me a 1080p display advertised as 4k.

it's nothing but a pissing contest
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>>55561332
>gets BTFO with objective fact
>goes back to memeing

ok kid
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>>55561324
Android users need 7" 1440p phablets as a communication device because they can't afford other devices more suited to media consumption. Crazy but true.
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>>55561331
>>and I don't want my device to be artificially obsolete in a couple of years . but anon, that's exactly what apple does. They make your phone obsolete with each and every new version of ios

k.
tell that to my iPhone 5 running smoothly on iOS 9

Having no software updates is inexcusable, only a delusional poorfag would defend it.
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>>55561277
4GB > 2GB
IPHONES BTFO
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>>55561324
*poverty intensifies*
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>>55561351
damage control mode: activated
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>>55561352
>dat hidden raging jelousy
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>>55561370
even that this absurdly close distance, i can barely the difference
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>>55561370
see guise
if I zoom in it makes a difference
it doesn't matter if I will never notice a difference when actually using and its going to give my phone poor performance and battery life its all about muh specs

lel
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>>55561351
What's objective is the S7 being fucked up by a year-old phone at this point, lmao
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>>55561347
Because other manufacturers fell for the vr meme ;^)
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>>55561412
Wow you can load angry birds 30s faster!
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>>55560889
>People want msd slots and the ability to torrent on their phones without hacking it.
Who the fuck torrents on a phone? Why would you do that? It's a horrible waste of resources and battery life.
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>>55561437
Sour grapes much?
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>>55561382
There's no use projecting your iphone envy, pajeet.
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>>55561347
>I think they're all the same shit.
Most of the time yes, but I never noticed any slowdowns and lag on my SE yet, while they are pretty constant during browsing or switching apps with Z3C; it has an older SOC sure but from what I read, the 6.01 experience is supposed to be super awesome and smooth, and it isn't.

>The difference is so miniscule
In viewing quality, yes but 4k meme and even 1440p also add a stupid drain to the battery life. It's a great example how Android manufacturers go for big numbers instead of user experience. S7 would have a fucking godly battery life with a 1080p OLED screen.

>>55561370
Do you make out any quality difference without opening the pic? Because that's how much you notice it on a phone.

Also it's funny how the same fags defend their PovertyPad screens, where the difference is easy noticeable and relevant for desktop space.
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>>55561436
>s-speed doesn't matter anyways!

When will android friends finally learn?
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>>55561370
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>>55561447
>u mad xd
No, I'm just curious about this level of straw-grasping, it sounds really stupid when even a cheapo SBC will do it better and faster.
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>>55561475
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>>55561462
Because Samsung's pushing their vr stuff hard and only the highest screen resolution would suffice for this
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Iphone is a fashion accessory and wealth signaling (lmao) device designed for the most frivolous normies, you know damn well it to be true.
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>>55561471
I'd rather have the 4GB ram than 30s faster angry birds
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>>55561492
Unlimited lte data plan on a phone with external batteries :^)

Oh wait you didn't have that, only sour grapes now
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>>55561471
>iToddler
>cares only about MUH GAEMS
>doesn't care that all the other real apps are slow as shit on his literal iToy
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>>55561497
B-but 1440p is still too low for a good VR experience

>>55561512
>I want a higher number behind RAM instead of actually better performance and multitasking
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>>55561512
>numbers matter more than actual performance

Fuck, are all pajeets this ignorant?
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>>55561475
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>>55561534
>I want my webpages to constantly reload
kek
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>>55560797
>Why the bitching?
Well, why are you bitching?
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>>55561557
DELETE THIS
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>>55561520
So you pay extra for an unlimited plan and carry around that bulky clutter all day just so you can do the same thing a $25 Raspberry Pi will do, but even shittier because of inconsistent signal quality, limited battery life, and a shitty unintuitive phone operating system?
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>>55561558
That's exactly what happens with S7 even though it has more RAM, because Android isn't into RAM management.
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>>55561557
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>>55561610
Then you definitely don't want 2GB ram if 4GB isn't even enough
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>>55561232
Z3C is two years old now, going on 3. Buy a new, official Sony battery and benchmark again.
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>>55561527
Were you able to understand anything in that video? The iphone was faster opening every single program, retard.
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>Pokémon Go is in high demand, and as it is yet to see a full worldwide release many eager hunters wanting to get in on the action have turned to unofficial sources to download a copy of the game.

>While this remains an easy and safe process through some means, cybersecurity researchers are warning that hackers are now taking advantage of the craze to spread malware that can give criminals "complete control" of Android devices.

Gotta love android
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>>55561631
Unlike android, iOS actually supports holding more than 1 app in memory at a time.
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>>55561631
A-are you trolling? The amount of RAM is absolutely irrelevant if the OS can't manage it right.

>>55561632
Not THAT old, bought it in Dec 2014 and it was always that way, doubt Marshmallow improved more than battery got worse. Also I didn't notice any deterioration at all tbqh, it's about the same as it was at start.
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>>55561506
>wealth signaling
>every welfare nigger on the planet walks around with one
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>>55560797
>Aside from battery life, and cameras
So aside from the 2 most important things in a smartphone?
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>>55561527
This.
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>>55561758

That's precisely why they do it.
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>>55561718
"""os management""" can't magically increase your ram above 2gb retard
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>>55561778
Yes but it can actually use the 2GB you have right and not make everything reload on 4GB like some shitty OS.

Also it's """ram management"""
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>>55561437
>>55561492
Even if it was a pretty niche feature (and it isn't, even if you don't find it useful), why would you not want it? I could get if not including an sd card slot would get you something, like more battery, but then maybe Apple should stop making "dude thin lmao" phones. Half a milimeter of thickness would compensate for the battery life a card slot would take up.

So again, even if you yourself don't find it useful, why is it better to not have features?
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>>55561778
this
>yfw apple users are too poor to afford 6GB of RAM let alone 4GB of RAM on their phones
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>>55561358
>Having no software updates is inexcusable, only a delusional poorfag would defend it.

You're right. That's why everyone in this thread loses. Apple shills for defending decent hardware for inflated prices, and Android users for settling to receive little to no software updates
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>>55560797
>Selectable default apps
He sure did hit the head on that one, aren't they only just allowing iOS users to uninstall default apps now?
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>>55561883
Android still doesn't let you uninstall default apps
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>>55561923
You can at least hide them. Can you hide them on iOS? I'm not too familiar with it.
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>>55561778
>"""os management""" can't magically increase your ram above 2gb retard
He's explained twice that the amount of RAM doesn't matter past a certain point on Android. It's highly optimized for shit phones with <1GB of RAM, even devices with 3 or 4 get forced by the OS to drop pages. It's not about the OS creating more RAM out of thin air, it's about the OS not caring how much you have.
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>>55561852
>being this tech illiterate
Did you design this dumb piece of shit by chance?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/06/oneplus-3-review-a-great-400-phone-you-can-actually-buy/

>A setting in the OnePlus 3's build.prop file artificially limits the device to storing only 20 apps in memory at a time. This means that unless they are 20 really big apps, you'll never use that 6GB of memory. With normal app usage, we were averaging between 25 to 30 percent memory usage on the OnePlus 3—less than the 2GB of RAM that has become the baseline for Android phones these days. Other devices usually hover around 80 percent.

Carl Pei, co-founder of OnePlus, explained this decision on Twitter. "We have a different strategy for RAM management that benefits battery," he wrote. "We think this is the best user experience." As a user, however, I don't really understand the point of loading a phone with 6GB of RAM if you then don't allow the phone to use it.
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>>55561945
Or you can use CM and delete whatever you want.
A funny thing about this thread is that no applefag is actually throwing around any qualities about the iPhone. It's entirely based on taking advantages from Android and saying they're not really that useful.
>Oh I can't do X and you can? Well only [generic meme insult] want to do X
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>>55561718
I respect your anecdote regarding battery life. Thank you for sharing your experience with us here on /g/
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>>55561974
This is why nobody takes them seriously. You know most Android users hate onecuck right?
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>>55562001
>you have to waste hours installing a new OS to do something

>>55562021
You're welcome to read reviews, these show SE having a noticeably better battery life too.

>>55562042
You know that this was an example of shit RAM management that happens on other Android phones just not in such silly dimensions, right?
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>>55562066
>onecuck represents all android phone manufacturers
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>>55562001
Either you compare preinstalled Android vs stock iOS or custom/rooted Android vs jailbroken iOS. You can't suddenly bring CM into it, because you can delete whatever you want on a jailbroken iPhone as well.
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>>55562082
Except CM doesn't require you to expose a root level exploit and block all security updates to keep it installed.
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>>55562107
this
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>>55562107
Neither does jailbreaking
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>>55562066
>you have to waste hours
You do not, takes about 20 minutes if you're reading a guide. And 18 of those 20 are just the initial compilation.

>>55562082
>Either you compare preinstalled Android vs stock iOS or custom/rooted Android vs jailbroken iOS.
Ok that's fair. Stock Android lets me do more stuff than stock iOS and Android is much easier to root than iOS. Also I keep getting updates with CM and rooted Android, last time I checked rooting iOS disabled that. And since there is no custom iOS, CM just wins by having no match.
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>>55562120
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>>55561945
"Hiding them" is a terrible solution and cumbersome. Creating a junk folder and putting it on the last page of your iOS apps is just as effective and easier.
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>>55562143
It's easier to root because there's more exploits for it. You can install security patches while jailbroken.
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>>55562001
>A funny thing about this thread is that no applefag is actually throwing around any qualities about the iPhone.
"It just werks" is a killer feature if you're not a NEET with too much time, so obviously Lagdroid fanboys ignore that.

There is also seamless experience without stutter and lags, years of updates, better made and earlier released apps, Continuity if you're not a poorfag and usually better made hardware. Encryption that doesn't kill your storage speed is pretty awesome too.

Also Apple support is A LOT better, something is wrong with your iFruit toy? You bring it to Apple store and it gets replaced right away.

Other than that, blue bubbles and maybe I was just unlucky, but I had yet to see an Android phone with a fast camera.

That's just top of my head stuff.
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>>55561958
>It's highly optimized for shit phones with <1GB of RAM

I sincerely do not know if you're referring to Android or iOS. I had a shit Nook with CyanogenMod with less than 1 GB and it was fucking garbage. I have a shit Dell tablet now with 2 GB and it's lesser garbage but garbage nonetheless.

On the other hand iPhones run pretty decent with that 1 GB
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>>55562143
>You do not, takes about 20 minutes
That's bullshit. Over 5 minutes go into the install on phone already.

>if you're reading a guide
Which you have to find first.

Then you have to know which ROM to install, which software you need to have on your PC, from where to get it and whether it will work with your phone; things you probably don't even think about anymore but matter for people who aren't doing this shit all the time.
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>>55562066
I remember reading the Z3C had probably the best Android life at the time of its release.

>>55562042
Really? Why? Because threw an excessive 6 GB of RAM in a phone?
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>>55562339
Which was good when the average Android phone barely lasted through a day, now the Z3C battery life is still pretty good but not that special anymore. iPhone battery life was usually pretty average sans Plus ones, but SE got pretty much the best of any high end phone.

>>55562339
The size isn't a problem, their artificial limit is, making it literally a gimmick you can't use in 99% of scenarios. Like having a 20MP camera but only being able to shoot 8MP pictures.
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>>55562188
>It's easier to root because there's more exploits for it.
What the fuck are you talking about? It's installed from a recovery that you flash onto the device, how is that an exploit? By that logic any feature that allows input is an exploit.
>You can install security patches while jailbroken.
>MANUALLY
Great, let me know when it reaches a level of function past the year of 1998.

>>55562227
Willing to concede on a few points because I'm ignorant on the matter.
>"It just werks" is a killer feature
Yes, but I get that with Android. I get that with any TouchWizz/MIUI bloat actually. They're crap on many levels, but they all just get it done.
>There is also seamless experience without stutter and lags
Let's be honest, this only works if you're using a last-gen or current-gen. Anything beyond that lags harder than most 200$ Android phones.
>Also Apple support is A LOT better, something is wrong with your iFruit toy?
I don't use warranties because I inevitably open/unlock most devices I own, but how is this different from a standard warranty? Broken, gets fixed.
>Other than that, blue bubbles
Jesus Christ.
>I had yet to see an Android phone with a fast camera.
You mean shutter speed? I have no idea what this means, I don't know a lot about photography.

>>55562231
I don't want to be one of those people, but it werks on my machine. Moto G LTE with CM13 is the experience I've been trying to replicate ever since the screen broke.

>>55562266
>if you're reading a guide
>Which you have to find first.
For fuck's sake how hard is it to google "install cyanogenmod" and click the first result.
All the stuff you listed actually comes from the guide. I had never rooted a phone in my life and installed CM on my old Moto G in about an hour. The only difficulty I had was installing abd on my laptop and that was only because I was using Linux which involved finding the name of the package for my distro.
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>>55562400
>It's installed from a recovery that you flash onto the device, how is that an exploit?
You are using an exploit to modify the recovery partition in the first place.
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>>55562380
Why is that artificial limit in place?

My OG OPO let's me have a bunch more apps open than that shit Dell tablet I have. 2 GB my ass. Feels more like 1.

Thank you for reading my anecdote. I'm glad to have been able to share it with you.
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>>55562400
>>You can install security patches while jailbroken.
>>MANUALLY
Did you not have to manually google how to install CM? Did you not have to manually unlock the boot loader through some pajeet exploit?
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>>55562461
Why is it an exploit?

>>55562490
Yes, I did those things once in my life and from then on enjoyed regular updates.
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>>55562400
>It just werks
In a "you can do things" way, not in a "you can do things without annoyance" way. It sounds like a such minor thing and I am not quite sure how to explain it better. It's just that kind of stuff you don't notice when you have it but do if you don't. Part of it depends on the manufacturer, some do it fine, with others you have to remove the bloat because having two apps doing the same shit is just retarded. Then you get to the part of "which app do I actualy remove?" Which non shit app should I use to play music? There are many threads about it for a reason.

>lag
My sis got a 4 year old iPhone 5, the battery life is a complete mess by now and the shit shuts it down at 60% sometimes, but it runs the latest iOS without problems and feels like a new phone. My Xperia Z3C can't open some websites without feeling like a laptop with PIII. The most annoying part is that it DOES run fine most of the time but the little stutter moments just ruin the experience.

>warranty
You don't have the option to just bring it to store and get it INSTANTLY replaced with any brands I know of. Sure you can send them in but depending on your location, it can take weeks till you get your stuff back. Besides, from my experience (with Sony) they usually try to fix it, might mess it up again and the whole shit repeats. With Apple you just get a new phone right away.

>You mean shutter speed?
That and simply opening the camera app. The latter is pretty close on the newer Android phones but the shutter speed is ridiculously slow. Let me bring up my sis' iPhone 5 again, it was one of the reasons why I switched. It's an old ass phone but the camera app open in less than a second and it records pictures the instant you push the button, so fast that you can accidently shoot two or three.
es from manufacturer to manufacturer. I recently read that Samsung fixed it with S7 that can store a lot more in the memory than S6 even though they have the same amount.
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>>55562486
Well, they claim because of the battery life, but then I'd be simpler just to put in standard 4GB for that, so I suspect it's because of the dick waving with numbers.

>My OG OPO let's me have a bunch more apps open than that shit Dell tablet I have.
Yeah, that shit varies a lot; which makes the size of RAM almost as useless as GHZ for the CPU sadly. And it changes from manufacturer to manufacturer. I recently read that Samsung fixed it with S7 that can store a lot more in the memory than S6 even though they have the same amount.

Bet it's extra annoying when you have a tablet, where running more apps makes more sense.

>>55562760
Aww shit, mixed up with two replies
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>>55561252
Because defaults.
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>>55560797
I understand the point of the image but
>loving virtual buttons
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