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>waiting for new pc but you dont even have proper cables to connect it to your monitor
Neat
DDR2 == master race
My PC is probably going to become the generic gaming build for next few months. Mark my words, you're going to see i5, 1070 and S340 builds all the time.
Just upgraded to a 6500k. Will post pics when I clean up the inside a bit more.
Dirt Rally VR update just released BTW, im fucking obsessed with that game
>>55519487
I got this case the other day, love it so far.
Considering that the 1080ti might not come out until 6-7months from now, I feel forced to get a 1080 because my current card is broken and might kill my entire setup any day now..
Has anyone made literally a stonecase yet?
>>55520068
No, they are too stoned.
>>55520059
>kill the entire setup
whats wrong with it?
Considering moving this build into an H440 and replacing the 212 with an X61 or Frostflow 240L, but I love my idle temps on everything being below 35 all the time even in summer
>>55520025
You should get a lower watt GPU.
>>55520112
forgot to add the specs
>>55520084
Well I lost ambient occlusion for everything, and if I fullscreen certain applications the screen starts flickering/tearing. I've troubleshooted everything I can come up with.
So it's very specific things.
But murphys law..
>>55520132
seems like you drew the short straw then, that sucks man :/
Still waiting for my new monitor
>>55520059
Insane amount of GPU sag ..
>>55520203
Anyone concerned by the fact that their GPU Idle temp is apparently 71?
Is that 960 OC'd, or is it at that much of a load at idle from merely driving 2 1440 displays?
>>55520242
Why would you assume it's idle?
>>55520255
Honestly, it's because I rarely expect the speccy stats on a guts thread post to be recorded at load. Also I'm pretty drunk right now
>>55520202
wait what, is this really so bad?
my gpu saggs even more...
>>55520313
If I post idle temps people ask for load temps, so its just easier to have load temps, but now I get people wondering why im idling so high... can't win.
>>55520323
Do what I usually do, use the text tool to write in the idle (or load, whatever's opposite) temp next to or above the other temp
>>55520179
It survived 2 years..!
>>55520202
>>55520314
It's not that bad.
To the guy that asked yesterday: No, I sadly cannot route the 8-pin PCI-e cable differently, it's too short to reach if I route it behind my mobo.
I'm thinking I'll do something about it by buying extension cables for both that and the 24-pin cable next month, to match the white 8-pin for the CPU.
Either that or pick up the Kelvin S36 that I've been planning on getting ever since I got my 750D along with a Grid+ and some quieter fans.
What should I do first, /g/ ?
>>55520448
unless it was overclocked and under load that whole time... thats kinda shitty dude
>>55520451
uhhh get the Kelvin S36. appearances can wait
>>55520467
Well yeah it is shitty. My old HD5770 is still working..
>>55520451
S36 because then you have more time to change to a new one if it's too loud. Because mine is very loud for an AIO cooler.
>>55520493
>Because mine is very loud for an AIO cooler.
If it's really too loud, I can always get a refund.
All I've really heard/read about its loudness is that the stock fans that come with it are a bit on the loud side, though. How's the pump noise on it ?
More importantly, is it a high pitched whiny kind of loud ?
>>55520524
That's what I mean, you can finish the build while the cooler is being sent back and then a new one arrives..!
It's not the fans, they are good at 60-70% speed.
But the pump is louder than expected. I do only hear it when I don't have anything else playing etc. Kind of a high pitched noise mixed with the moving water. You can, as I, lower the pump rpm, but even then it's not fit for a quiet build.
For the price it's very disappointing.
>>55520553
That does sound a little annoying, any chance you can record a sample of the pump noise ?
I'm not really going for an ultra quiet build or anything, more so just not annoyingly loud while idling.
Also, how are your temps under load, and how much is your CPU overclocked ?
>>55520630
If you're not aiming for a quiet build then you're gonna be fine with it.
As for temps I'm idling around 25-30c depending on the ambient temperature. And that's with all fans on 40% and the pump being around 60%.
I haven't OCd yet as I was going to wait till I get a new gpu.
But my friend has almost the exact same build as I do, same cpu and cooler and he has OCd to around 4.5ghz and he idles about the same and under 100% load we reach about the same as well, 55-60c.
The voltage hit the limit before the temp did.
During winter, when the ambient temp was around 2c we idled at 14-15c.
So it's very capable.
>tfw never have to worry about GPU sag
>>55520952
Post temps
>>55520952
Nice spaceheater.
I've been toying with the idea of a small build for some time now.
And since my gpu is dying and I'd have to get a new card until the 1080ti arrives, it would be smart to get a card that fits in a small case.
The build would use my old pc parts, lga1156. And it would just be an offload render pc and something portable.
Best gpu choice would be something like the Nano? I'd hate to use AMD because fuck AMD when you're dealing with 3D softwares.
But does nvidia have any tiny cards like the Nano? Last and current gen.
Having trouble finding mobos now that I'm looking..
>>55520194
What monitor are you waiting on?
My DiY Steam Machine
Can you help me out a bit, /guts/?
1) I have i5-750 with GA-P55-UD2 motherboard, 8gb ddr3 ram, some okay PSU the name I forgot, terrible, cheap case with no airflow and GTX 660 as GPU.
Can I upgrade it in some way or the onyl option lesft is completely new PC?
2) What are some good options for 8 core CPUs, other than i7-6700/6700K? Not costing 350$, I mean. Or there is something incoming and should I rather wait? If so, how long?
3) Can I even make a build based on some i7 CPU that would fit inside 1000$/890 EUR budget?
>>55521347
Get 8gb more RAM and a new GPU.
>>55521178
Acer Predator XB271HU but it's not in stock at the moment and I am having second thoughts because it's almost as expensive as a vive and g-sync isn't improving much at high framerates anyway
>>55521377
My CPU wont bottleneck everything?
>>55521227
What case is that?
Mine
>>55521347
>2) What are some good options for 8 core CPUs, other than i7-6700/6700K?
Those things have four cores, and they use hyperthreading so the OS sees eight threads. Most games can't utilize them for any benefit.
>>55521477
Yes, I know, 4 physical, 8 logical -I was thinking of another good CPU like that. I heard that AMD FX CPUs have poor single thread performance, while having okay multi-thread.
>>55519487
Neat SSD place(s)
Organized cables
Uniform red/black theme
Dutch bicycle
10/10 - IGN
>>55521347
Is there a reason why you want an i7? for gaming an i5 with reasonable single core performance should be good enough doesn't need to be the latest generation so yours should still be fine
if you have a $1000 budget you have a lot of options, upgrade your case and your psu if you are worried about air flow and reliability spend the rest on a nice gpu and maybe a new ssd
>>55521428
IN WIN Chopin
>>55521573
>Is there a reason why you want an i7?
Other than that I want another CPU that will last for next 3-4 years and that I want it to be rather hex than quad - no.
i5-750 serve me since 6 years - I want next one to last at least near that.
>if you have a $1000 budget
Actually, I was a little stupid to provide budget in $, as I live in Europe - that means extra VAT tax for every imported goods from US.
Lets stick to 890 EUR budget. Or 4000 PLN, because thats my local currency.
>>55521625
I am from Europe too, 890€ are still a reasonable budget especially if you can use some parts from your old pc.
I looked up you cpu and if you don't want to upgrade to the i7 from the same generation you need a new mainboard if you want to upgrade to the 6xxx sklakes or broadwell-E you have to upgrade you RAM as well because no DDR3 support:
100€ mainboard
230€ i5 skylake
40€ DDR4 8gb
thats roughly 370€ you could safe and probably get similar performance in games
>100€ mainboard
And what mainboard would be good for that price?
I mean, I found GA-170-UD3 that looked really promising, but thats 112€.
>if you don't want to upgrade to the i7 from the same generation
Is there something interesting from my generation, I mean using socket LGA 1156?
>>55521625
>>55521347
Poor worldfag here, your cpu and ram is ok, i have 6 gigs of ram with i5 2500, recently bought an 950 gtx and no cpu or even ram bottlenecks. shadow of mordor mostly with high/some ultra settings, 50+ fps on 1080p, it just works.
Maybe not the best place to ask, but do any of you guys know anything about DIYPC cases? Particularly pic related?
It comes with like 6 case fans which is probably overkill, but it has external fan control so it shouldn't be too noisy.
>>55521779
The thing with mainboards is that it doesn't really matter which one you take performance wise except the chipset but there aren't many different chipsets within one cpu generation and if it's a "gaming" board it probably already has the right one. If you are interested, a comparison for skylake chipsets:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z170-H170-H110-B170-Q150-Q170---What-is-the-Difference-635/
So choose your mainboard purely on features: nice on board sound, special ethernet, m.2 etc
>Is there something interesting from my generation, I mean using socket LGA 1156?
i am not sure what you mean - socket 1156 works only with the first generation of i5s and i7s
>>55521884
>i am not sure what you mean - socket 1156 works only with the first generation of i5s and i7s
I mean, if there is a good buyable CPU for that socket, so I could use my current mobo.
As for motherboards, I was thinking about how Asus, MSI and Gigabyte models differs in price, while Im too green to see a difference between, say, Z-170-K, -P or -A in case of Asus or HD3 and HD3P in case of Gigabyte.
So Intel most likely wont drop their price anytime soon?
>>55521113
>>55521126
This is under load
It's a fucking spaceheater, yes
So my motherboard has a TPM header, does anyone know where you can buy a TPM 2.0 14-1 TPM module?
Seems to be a real bitch to find them because they are considered cryptographic devices.
>>55522021
The fastest CPU for 1156 is the i7-880 and thats around 160€ on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Core+i7-880&_sacat=0
I would not recommend that if you want to upgrade, upgrade to a more recent generation or keep you current cpu.
The difference is minimal: some have on board wifi others have headers for pumps if you want to water cool or have nicer on board sound - as i said only features you may want or need but probably not. here is the list for different asus boards:
http://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Z170/compare/
And no I wouldn't expect much of a price drop before the next generation of cpus is released
>>55522130
>And no I wouldn't expect much of a price drop before the next generation of cpus is released
Even if Zen would come? Thats sad.
And I guess there is no new generation on horizon?
Thanks for all this help, by the way, I rarely get as much.
>>55522116
Tried amazon?
Only 20 bux
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GC-TPM-Trusted-Platform-Module/dp/B00U07T0UE
wheres the guy with the sun microsystems case i want to know what he has in the inside bc i saw a case on craigslist for sale and i wanted to make it into a sleeper
>>55522181
That's TPM 1.2 which is an older TPM version, I can easily find those.
Finding a TPM 2.0 module (which allows for several different types of encryption over TPM 1.2) is a pain in the ass. There are a few I found that are 20-1 pin, but I can't find any 14-1 pin.
>>55522152
>Even if Zen would come? Thats sad.
Well I wouldn't rule it out, it can happen but that would mean you have to wait for Zen
>And I guess there is no new generation on horizon?
Kaby Lake is announced for later this year but they usually release the mobile versions first and month later the desktop versions you would be interested in but thats probably 10 month away after that comes cannonlake but that's even further away (like 18 month maybe)
>>55522224
>but that would mean you have to wait for Zen
I wait since last 3 years, when I started to think about upgrading (but back then, it had little sense), my current PC have 6 years, I can wait few months more ;_; (it it would really mean saving 300+ PLN).
Instead of "few months" I guess I should say "until December", unless AMD will push the release for later, right?
>>55522293
>Instead of "few months" I guess I should say "until December", unless AMD will push the release for later, right?
True but you can always wait a bit longer and get something better for the same money - if your pc works right now you could get a new GPU, PSU and case now and get a new CPU, mainboard and RAM after zen is out if you really wanted to. if you are concerned about the work if your windows runs fine right now you can and should upgrade you gpu without installing everything again
>>55522381
Actually, Im using Win 7 right now, have Win 10 Edu on desk, but Im not sure how they would treat changing motherboard, if I would install it now.
Said Win 7 actually runs that 6 years without reinstallation, so installing over again would actually helps.
But you suggestion about splitting upgrade in two aprts sounds reasonable. I would wait a little bit more, since custom Rx 480 is on its way, but thanks again, I will consider this option.
I just build this, how do I prevent GPU sag?
>>55519199
>>55520059
>Last pic
You're having too much positive pressure in your case.
>>55522906
Dice. Bottle cap. Tabasco sauce.
>>55522946
Now fill the rest of the space with batteries and you basically have a 2015/6 MacBook
chek it senpai
Local shop had a shipment of discount Nanos for pretty much what reference RX 480 costs so fuck waiting for that Sapphire card. Goes well with my mATX case I think, leaves the CPU some more room to breathe.
late today
>>55523342
Strap a fuckhuge cooler to it.
I once nearly bought a 100€ hdmi cable from a hifi store in a mall because all other shops were closed
I decided to wait until morning
>>55523380
>2016
>not buy HIFI SUPERHD PLATINUM PLATED HDMI cables.
>>55519487
Nice, I just put my new build in an s340 as well. Wish I had matching SSDs though :(
>>55523091
You have too much positive pressure in your head.
>>55523170
what do I do with the Tabasco sauce?
>>55523091
Positive pressure is best, if you don't like having to clean your case as often.
>>55523717
Balanced is best silly
>>55523994
Mostly balanced with a slight lean towards positive is best for cleanliness. If the air pressure dips into the negative, the case will draw in air from all available sources, which will draw dust into your case from the gaps in the edges.
>>55521898
Those twisted hoses have me triggered as fuck.
>>55523366
Why?
>>55524806
Why not?
>>55524366
Nice guts mane
>>55520952
What case is that?
>>55519487
Lmfao just bought it with i5 4460.
No 1070 though but the rx480 will do
>>55520128
The old hidden 980, i love it!
>>55519199
someone needs to get their priorities straight
>>55523686
>>55523717
>Not getting the joke.
I want to get a new card, currently with a 650TI, waiting for the 1060 to come out.
Is it okay to buy cards on first day releases?
>>55526557
CM elite 130
PC modded into a Power Mac G5 case
just need to buy extra short PCIe cables for the GPU then I guess I could the mod is done
>>55526977
>forgot pic
wew
>>55519199
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/F7wkd6
>>55520120
Will later. I upgraded to a 600w psu, so I'm able to overclock it a bit now.
>>55526804
Please respond, i'm trying to build my first rig and just want some dos and donts...
>>55527186
just use the intel integrated til you can get the 1060, unless you're buying an AMD cpu in which case you're fucking up hard, bulldozer+revisions are literally the worst things ever contrived and i could write an essay on why they are so shit and why you're fucked with or without dx12 overhead in the future.
>>55522946
Fucking kek
>>55527216
So you're saying not to buy the 1060 on day first?
>>55527051
other pic without GPU
6600K, 8GB 2800MHz, Z170 A M9, GTX960 (Waiting for the 1060 to come out) and the cherry on top is the Intel 750 400GB PCI-E 4X
750ti arrived finally
>>55527254
Yeah you could
Send help
The wonderful wide world of no airflow
If I can find my dremel tool I intend to cut grates in the base
>>55527510
Poor choices
You bought a $300 Z170 motherboard when for you could have gotten a top quality X99 motherboard for $200
You bought an Intel 750 series SSD for $350 when it suffers from horrible seek times in most applications and slow boot compared to other PCI express SSDs
You could have gotten a 256 GB PCI express Kingston or Samsung SSD for $200
With the money saved you could have went for a X99 CPU and 16 GB RAM
I hope it's prebuilt
I currently have an FX 6100 from a few years ago, and I'm not willing to upgrade my mobo until I do a full rebuild (which will be at least a few years) so I'm stuck with AM3+. Is upgrading to an FX 8370 worth it or should I hold off until I rebuild?
I wish there was a U.2 to M.2 adapter. The only U.2 in the market is the 750 and it isn't that great.
>>55528405
>U.2 to M.2 adapter
http://www.microsatacables.com/u2-sff8639-to-pcie-4-lane-adapter-sff-993-u2-4l
>>55527824
alright, so this 750ti is great if i can get around the constant fucking artifacting
max graphics on insurgency does a stable 30fps
with artifacting
the free drivers are garbage, the nvidia 361 driver is broken as fuck, trying the 341 now
>>55519199
Is PC alright to build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxWBbj
>>55526747
Oops, totally took this pic while I was putting it together and didn't even realize it was when i was just using the integrated graphics for OS install
I miss my r9 390 i have to use my old gtx 660 as a place holder because i have to rma it i hope MSI doesn't screw me over.
>>55527289
>>55527051
>nobody cares about the only modded case in the thread
guess I'll seek attention somewhere else
>>55528735
I so but cant be bothered to type. try to get early next thread
>>55528735
its a mac pro case wew very individualistic of you +1 point.
>>55528690
file name says it all.
>>55528503
ok, cool, those drivers killed ubuntu
so i installed mint, and after moving to proprietary drivers i get an "APCI PCC Probe Failed" and no grub
kill me now
i just spent 100$ on something thats probably just not going to work with linux
and im not paying 100$ more to buy fucking windows and deal with that nightmare
>>55528948
>paying 100$ more to buy fucking windows and deal with that nightmare
you can get a windows key on reddit for $10-30.
>>55528970
>buying software keys on reddit
thats just asking to lose your hard earned money
>>55529006
i've done it 5 times over the last 18 months. No problems whatsoever.
>>55528813
yea so MANY people modded a powermac g5 case in 2016 instead of a buying s340
i one up you too
Is it bad to put a fan on both sides of my evo cpu cooler? I don't do anything at all requiring them I just think it would look better than the stock fan.
>>55529471
if you like it, do it.
Anyone with ITX build chime in? Wiring pictures would be appreciated to.
Looking to buy a 1151 board with only 2 memory slots.
Is it worth it to buy a single 16gb stick instead of 2x8gb for futureproofing?
>>55529780
I have 2x4GB sticks
If I need 16GB, chances are my CPU isnt fast enough to handle that workload anyway
So I was going to buy a i7-6700k cause I want to overclock.
I keep reading around on fourms and asked a few people at work and they said the 6700k was absolute garbage. That I should only go with an i5-6600k or a i7‑5820K.
Who the fuck do I believe?
>>55529780
>>55521178 here, cable management in ITX is the most rewarding. As for RAM, I think 2x8gb should be sufficient, if you're not saturating near that I don't see any reason
>>55529793
True.
It's just 32gb as in 16x2 simply isn't worth it with the cost of DDR4. But buying a single 16gb stick and adding another 16gb whenever seems fine.
Instead of buying 8x2 and being stuck replacing both sticks few years down the road.
Granted I think anything's better than 4x2gb DDR2.
>>55529509
Just installed em. Looks good. Temperatures are the same idle but I imagine would be much better under load and if I ever decide to overclock this bitch.
>>55520041
I'm pretty hype to play Forza Horizon 3 in either VR or 21:9
>>55530892
Pics, anon.
>>55529815
I don't see how it could be garbage, by that logic the 6600k should also be garbage it's basically the same CPU without hyper threading. I got my 6700K to 4.7GHz with an AiO cooler with max temps of 68C and it was extremely easy to OC with an adaptive voltage so my idle temps are low 20s
>>55523283
Nah, that one can run at over 5% cpu load without throttling, unlike a macbook
Eat pebid
>>55531791
Please tell me those are load temperatures.
Is a Gigabyte Z170 really the best? I wanted to get an MSI one so I could overclock my 1070, but I'm seeing nothing but praise for Gigabyte.
>>55531387
Never planned on posting this because its meme. Will fix the cpu fans cables a bit better soon. Need to replace that stock PC fan in the back.
Swapped out my cooler. Single tower cooler now and temps are only 2C higher than my last huge bulky dual tower cooler. Now my ram slots are easier to access.
>>55531256
Sleep tight, 'putter.
>>55532036
I'm gonna replace all my fans with those new Corsair magnetic bearing fans, I really like the look of the non led ones, pretty expensive though.
https://altoona.craigslist.org/sys/5631886374.html
I'm sorry.
>>55532196
>my mom found my porn stash so I have to sell it to pay for her ptsd therapy
>>55532196
dood wtf.
Just need to order a processor and grab the gpu. PSU Wednesday woop, blog over.
>>55532196
huh?
Looking for a new case, the one I have right now is an Antec Super Lan Boy (look it up). I like the look of it, but I would like to put more hard drives. Any suggestions? Prefer it to be under $70.
>>55527743
what is this model?
>>55527051
Why did you mount your mobo upside down?
>>55520059
D00d. Is that a Fractal R2 XL?
I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD DO THAT WITH THE DRIVES???? How does it work? I have an R2 XL and I guess I never RTFM.
Unless it's an R5.
How far high can I get my 1080 to OC?
>>55533847
CRANK IT ALL UP
FULL THROTTLE BABY
>>55533026
Its a Define S, believe the R5 has the same features, maybe even the R4.
>>55521541
>That much sag
>10/10
U wot m8?
>>55536893
R5 might be able to mount a third fan if you remove the optical bay, but I haven't tried. It also won't be filtered. I went with the R5 because it's easier to get to the front dust filter.
