I've been wanting to get a 1440p, 144hz monitor with an IPS panel and g-sync to go with my new rig. I was basically trying to decide between this monitor and the Asus ROG swift PG279Q monitor, but after hearing about Asus QC issues in reviews I decided I should probably buy the Acer.
This question is directed mainly to owners of / people who have used this monitor:
How bad is your backlight bleed (if you have any), and how much does it affect your actual user experience; This is basically my primary concern, I've heard that IPS panels do look much better than TN panels, but I really don't want to have my experience impacted by bleed.
Considering this monitor has 4ms response time, do you notice any ghosting compared to a 1ms TN panel?
General discussion about high end monitors is also welcomed.
>>55494698
>gaymen anything
>>55494712
So do you have any other suggestions?
>>55494698
Do some math.
1000/144 = 6.9(4)ms
So a screen refresh every roughly 7ms. If it doesn't deviate much from the announced values, you should be fine. What you need to know if it's actual 4ms, or if that's just marketing bull.
For instance, I run 2 screens rated at 8ms, but actual refresh times range between 5-12ms, more than enough for a 60hz screen. Also one time I saw a "1ms" gaming monitor, but certain pixel transitions took almost 20ms.
>>55494698
99,9% of current high refresh ips display posses lightbleed because ips is simply prone to it.
it just varies on how much you can see it.
i own a mg279q and have some bright corner on top left and bottom right but it doesn't concern me as long as i don't play splinter cell without night vision
>>55495032
True, I have been looking at third party reviews and they seem to indicate a low "total input lag" for this monitor, however the only thing relevant to ghosting is the actual pixel response time.
I know it's not a very mainstream feature, but i'm pretty sure i'll go for the Dell 2716U for the integrated KVM feature. It'll be a big step up from my U2209WA anyway.
>>55495141
And for general productivity? (So non-gaming, every-day use)
>>55495157
Check tftcentral, they are very thorough on their reviews.
Apparently AOC and Viewsonic are each coming out with monitors with the same specs as the Acer, are they also guaranteed to suffer from backlight bleed?
>>55495195
I already checked there, they unfortunately haven't reviewed this sepecific monitor.
>>55495141
I just ordered one and I just hope I'll have decent luck in the ASUS lottery. How do you like yours so far? any other issues?
>>55495190
you won't notice it. there are no websites which feature #00000 colors except text color
and for videos, anime and cartoons it doesn't really matter. scenes blend to quick to make you think about it
I'm u sing the VG248 (Asus) monitor, and it's pretty nice, if a bit expensive.
It's not an IPS panel, but the colors are still pretty good, as well as the viewing angles.
>cuck-sync
>>55495242
got it from mindfactory for cheap as fuck 340€.
it is just perfect. but it started to get bigger lightbleed over the course. i think it's now at max but you still don't notice it until the black goes completely black
>>55495275
That really is an excellent price, unfortunately I'm in switzerland so I'll get fucked over by the toll if I order anything from outside of the country.
>>55495275
Oh well I paid around 560 euro converted from swiss francs. It's for good customer service in case I have to exchange my monitor a few times because shit quality control.
>>55495344
hey swissbro, I ordered from digitec. should've taken the 555.- offer from microspot when it was up..
>>55495265
>AMD GPU's capable of 1440p/4K
it's sad but if you want to play your latest gayms at high resolutions 1070/80 are really your only options right now.
>>55494698
The free-sync versions with the same panel type is literally $200 less. There are also Fury X cards on same for 400
>>55495239
Yeah, just checked as well, they just have a review for the XB271HU, which I quickly glanced at out of curiosity, and honestly seems good, but not 900€ good.
>>55495374
Damn son, nice snag
Yeah that would've been a good deal, though I have to say I do value the g-sync quite highly (but not 250 CHF more)
>>55495402
Yeah the review they have up is the xb270hu, from my understanding it uses the same panel however
Why would backlight bleeding be any issue at all? It's only noticeable in black screens and staring at a black screen would be retarded.
>>55497243
Well mainly it's that I honestly feel it's reasonable to expect a "perfect" product at this price range.
Also, Backlight bleeding is apparently one of the major factors being taken into account by professional reviewers at this time, meaning it must have at least some significance to the user experience.
>>55494698
G-SYNC are buggy on these monitors. They introduced G-SYNC for the desktop
(because of borderless windowed games) and it causes glitches on the Acer and Asus.
Personally I don't give a fuck about G-SYNC, I run mine at 60Hz (144Hz for Overwatch).
Both Acer and Asus have a firmware upgrade incoming but it requires you to send the monitor to a service center to upgrade it.
Not a problem for me because I don't use G-SYNC, and yes I've got a Nvidia GPU (GTX 1080).
>>55497598
>Both Acer and Asus have a firmware upgrade incoming but it requires you to send the monitor to a service center to upgrade it.
lmao what the fuck
>>55497924
>>55497598
Is this confirmed? Haven't been able to find any articles on it.
>>55494698
What are some cheap 120/140hz freesync 1440p monitors?
Dude why does everyone use ips? VA is objectively better. I can't stand the light grey that an ips uses for dark scenes. Seriously no one should ever suffer through using a monitor with a 1000:1 contrast ratio. The only exception should be for someone who is hardcore gaming and cat put up with 10+ms lag on a variety monitor. Sorry to rant. But I got cucked by ips and while it's better than tn. I get so pissed off about the black levels. I mean they really do have no contrast, shit sucks. :(
Which monitor offers the absolute best motion clarity currently? There's so many high-end 144/165/200Hz monitors now that I've lost track.
Should I just get an XL2730Z maybe?
>>55498035
>cheap
>>55498285
<400€
>>55498255
So are there any 1440p / 144hz VA monitors that you would recommend?
Gonna be getting an LG 34UM95 alongside my new GTX 1080. Is the extra money for the curved Ultrawides worth it or should I just not bother?
>tfw coming from a 21inch 1080p with a 770
Can't wait.
>>55498035
check out www.144hzmonitors.com
>all these plebs talking about VA this, IPS that, muh TN, muh compromises
>not getting the UP3017Q and having literally the best god-tier monitor on the market
Why don't you poorfag plebs get off /g/ and go back to r*ddit or 9gag or whatever slimehole you slithered out of?
>>55498452
Probably because it's not available for purchase yet.
>Why don't you slither back to whatever slimehole where people are to fucking retarded to check if a monitor is available for purchase or not you came from
![EAY30fM[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/uQXVZds.png "EAY30fM[1].png")
>>55498255
Are you sure it's not your GPU settings?
I know my Nvidia card sets it to Limited by default for some fucking reason
Also check the video color settings part of GPU settings too
>>55498452
16:10 version when??
>>55498610
Never. 16:10 is dead, grandpa.
>>55498575
Valuable advice, thank you.
![monitor-u2415-hero-295x295[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sJQKOq2.jpg "monitor-u2415-hero-295x295[1].jpg")
Anything better than U2415 out yet?
>tfw no 144hz 16:10 screen
>>55497978
Check Asus' and Acer's community forums.
Never experienced the glitch myself, but it's exclusive to using G-SYNC with these two monitors.
>>55498255
VA just isn't there with response time.
>>55498258
Old CRTs can do actual 200Hz at lower resolutions. There's a panel marketed at 200Hz but people found it worse and less responsive at 200Hz, forgot which model.
The BenQ is a solid choice.
>>55498575
Yeah it's full. I was just talking about my experience with ips. I've just never seen one with a good actual contrast ratio. They generally top at about 1200:1 compare that to VA which is 3000:1 at a minimum. And it's night and day. Plus you get pretty good viewing angles and colors. personally I'd sacrifice color accuracy for black scale accuracy. Especially since this ips replaced a plasma TV I used. I just find the "glow" on them to be unacceptable.
>>55498916
I mean it is for a regular user. Sure a 30ms or below lag isn't good for someone doing competitive online gaming. But I seriously think the average user would appreciate the deeper blacks more.
>>55497381
if you buy a 10k car it will have just as many flaws compared to a 20k car
the flaw is not actually a flaw, but a limitation in the technology itself.
it's like buying a very expensive ips monitor and expecting oled grade blacks from a smartphone.
>>55498948
wait for HDR content and 10000:1 contrast monitors
>>55494698
I personally really enjoy my 1440p 144hz monitor.
Although that could be because every monitor ive had before that was objective trash.
>>55501643
Out of interest: how much do you pay for this in non europoop countries?
Are there any reliable stores that sell pg279q i n europe.
It's fucking 830€ in my country and i dont know if im ready to pay that much for just a monitor
>>55498255
>>55498308
>acer, asus, benq have 144hz VA monitors
>none with gsync
>none with 2560x1440
>none with 3440x1440
why is life suffering?
>>55501643
That's basically the pg279q just with a TN panel instead of IPS
I guess the upsides are a slightly lower price, no ghosting guaranteed and also no backlight bleed or IPS glow.
How would you rate your experience using it?
Does someone know decent 24" ~120hz wqhd monitors?
I kinda long for the simpler times when all monitors were 4:3 and used the same technology and more money would get you a bigger screen, better image quality and higher resolutions/refresh rates.
Instead of having to choose between 10 different variables and every monitor sucking at some of them.
Why is it so hard for LCD panel manufacturers to avoid making panels with dead pixels? These things have been around for 20 years, you'd expect them to have been perfected by now.
>>55506707
Currently I htink the issue is that AU Optronics is the only company capable of manufacturing a 1440p 144hz IPS panel, which means they don't really have to invest into QC at all until another company is able to offer some form of competition.
>>55504347
I was thinking of getting a 1440p 144hz screen, is IPS really worth it? All I hear about is problems like you mentioned. I don't look at my screen at odd angles anyway.
>>55494698
Guys, I got a cheap BenQ GL2250H recently (£80).
Did I do good or is it shit?
>>55507369
If you want high response time and use the monitor mainly for gaming, videos and surfing the web, get a TN.
Only get a IPS if you do any kind of art or photo/video editing, because you'll definitely want the accurate colors and viewing angles an IPS panel will give.
>>55507963
So you wouldn't say the more accurate colors look nicer for gaming?
I basically only care about how appealing the colors will look in general, so my question is basically this:
Does the greater realism of IPS colors actually make them look more appealing to the human eye?
>>55508042
In my experience, the difference in colors is subtle, but definitely there.
>>55508042
>So you wouldn't say the more accurate colors look nicer for gaming?
The accuracy is more about gamma shift. Technically TN can be just as accurate as IPS but even when viewing a TN panel dead center there are parts of the screen where the color slightly changes due to your viewing angle. This is why TN can't be used for any professional color sensitive work.
>>55507963
Sounds like TN will do for me then.
What about G-sync? Do you even see screen tearing at 100+ FPS?
>>55508149
>>55508126
In that case maybe I'll buy the asus PG278Q instead of the IPS acer, considering the lower price point and also no risk of backlight bleed / glow. On the other hand, the acer only costs 150 more than the TN panel asus, but I'm honestly not sure if IPS is even the way to go in that case.
I've also heard that the blacks on IPS monitors are worse than on TN panels; is this correct?
>>55508206
>I've also heard that the blacks on IPS monitors are worse than on TN panels; is this correct?
Yes.
Consider the S2716DG as well.
>>55508206
I just bought a pair of PA249Qs after my CRTs were starting to ghost way to much. They're pretty sweet. Only thing I miss is the perfect black levels.
I'm only running one right now because my GPU is dogshit and I'm waiting for a non-reference PX480 to come out.
(Also, the only camera I own is a 3DS)
>>55508420
Not bad, nice setup. Enjoy your 480 by the way, friend of mine already has his and I've seen it's performance. At 1080p it really is the best bang for your buck you can get on todays market.
>>55494698
You won't escape the shitty QC because it uses teh same panel, the problem is with the panels themselves. There are no good 1440p, 144hz "IPS" monitors out there because they all use the same shitty AVHA panels.
A 1ms panel will feel more fluid during gaming, but response times vary a lot you have to check TFT centrals for their real response times.
>>55508586
True, at this point after very extensive research I'm pretty much leaning towards getting the Asus PG278Q, which I can currently buy for 550.-, I don't think it's acceptable to be selling a product which is anything short of perfect for 800 dollars.
>>55498258
wait till' the new zowie/ben-q monitor comes out, it'll be using an improved kind of blur-reduction. Maybe, just maybe it'll be worth getting.
>>55508586
not the same panel, but same manufacturer.
i've had xb270hu, pg279q and s2716dg.
the first two both had crazy blb issues, and since i had the stupidity to order them from another country i had no way to return them. managed to sell xb270hu, the asus one still sits on my balcony. currently using s2716dg. got used to tn in about a month (was using u2414h before).
my advice - if you are ready for the rma hassle go for it, otherwise get the tn (asus or dell). another option is to wait. there are viewsonic and aoc models coming out with the same spec (144hz, 1440p, ips) right about this month.
>>55508659
Yeah like I'm saying, no way am I gonna pay 800 dollars only to deal with shitty RMA's and customer "service" nightmares. Besides, I'm already using a good TN panel and the colors seem fine to me, and the Asus uses a top of the line TN panel, so that would probably also be an upgrade.
>>55508659
Where did you read about new aoc monitor coming this month?
>>55508941
https://pcmonitors.info/aoc/aoc-ag271qg-165hz-ips-type-g-sync-model
>>55504347
>>55502989
I have the exact same monitor. Bought it as a refurbished from Newegg for 450, came looking brand new.
Love it, since it's a great deal compared to the IPS one. Doesn't have eye care though, and the view angle shit can be noticeable at times.
Gsync is sexy as fuck too
>>55508991
Hope the panel is better than asus and acer.
750€ is still pretty much unless its perfect
If I go with 1440p 60hz will I get a much better deal, I really need the 1440p and can live with 60fps
>>55508420
Why does the 3ds even have cameras when they are so dogshit
Could have made the product even cheaper
cant go back from 4k.
everything so much better in 4k. so next part is a 120hz 4k 30/32" monitor to upgrade from my 1440p 100hz 27" IPS.
>>55494698
XB271HU in blacked out room. Im very pleased with this monitor.
>>55509405
144hz or nothing faggot
>>55510055
That does look like relatively noticeable bleed, at least on the picture.
How bad would you say it is in real life? Does it significantly alter your usage experience?
>>55509405
you should still see the benefit of 144hz even if you cant reach such framerates because there's less lag between every screen refresh and frame render.
>>55509405
>>55510118
>>55510365
Having gone from 60 to 144 hz, I honestly can't go back at this point. It's not just gaming where the difference is noticeable, but I actually notice it during everyday use; It feels like the cursor is lagging if running at 60 hz now.
Does anyone have experience or reviews of the Acer Predator XB270HUD? Its IPS big brother XB270HU has plenty of reviews but i can find nothing of the TN version.
>>55510136
No I don't. That is taken in dark room with low light program with gs3, the black is good enough to not to show the bleed, can't notice it without camera.
>>55511499
Nice, If that's the case I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and get the best of the best monitor, considering I already built a top of the line rig.
>>55511499
>>55511707
Is there any explainable reason as to why you can only notice it through the camera?
