Okay /g/, long time lurker here, finally getting the balls to switch over to Linux, and get off of Google Chrome, where should I start?
>inb4 Gentoo
>>55453009
Ubuntu MATE
>>55453009
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
>>55453009
Arch Linux
Seriously just follow the fucking wiki and become a rice-tard like the rest of us.
>>55453009
Just get a ubuntu flavor, like kubuntu or xubuntu.
Nothing wrong with Gentoo
Check out Debian
>>55453055
Gentoo pretty much has everything Arch does + more. sys-apps/pacman
>>55453742
and more tedious
srs, op, have fun unmasking packages every other minute, which btw, you have to use dispatch-conf with root access everytime in order to approve it
also, have fun waiting a million years for any bloaty-software such as libreoffice or kde, or even any gui or webkit library
but after you do the tedious installation, it won't be as bad, if you want more control, go for gentoo, if u don't care and want minimalism, use arch
>>55454041
>More flexible
>Masking is one of the best things Gentoo has to offer. It's great.
>There's also etc-update and obviously it requires super user. Why wouldn't it???
>There's precompiled binaries for people like you. You can also prepare binaries.
One day when you become very integrated with development you're going to compile most software anyway. Compatibility and optimization go hand and hand.
Arch users just like to think that there system is up to par with Gentoo but it isn't. CRUX comes closer.
>>55453009
use firefox and an ubuntu flavor or derivative
mint, ubuntu mate, xubuntu are good
>>55454041
>arch
>minimalism
please. if you want minimalism, you go for something like alpine, void, gentoo, or a BSD. Not a distro that includes literally every optional dependency, runs systemd, and leaves in development headers for no reason.
>>55454443
Compilation isn't even that bad on modern PCs with gentoo. And if you have multiple PCs you can setup distcc so that those will help compile to make it even faster.
>>55456008
maybe i'm retarded, but i've never gotten distcc to work even after putting hours into it.
See you back on Windows in 2days.
>>55453009
Your best bet is Ubuntu or one of its 'flavours'. Ignore the "hurr n00buntu xD" idiots who think that they're 1337 haxx0rs because their distro requires you to have a manual on hand to install it.
Once you've been on *buntu for a while and gotten used to the way things work in Gahnoo/Loonix, you can then start thinking of moving onto more specialised distros (source-based, freetard, minimalist, etc.). There's really no reason not to stick with *buntu if you like it though; it's perfectly serviceable even for "advanced" users who just want something that werksTM with no faff.
Pretty unrelated, but you might also want to read this:
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
>>55453009
How do you actually "lurk"?
I don't have enough self control not to spout at least an autistic/meme answer at most threads
>>55453009
Debian + non-free parts for convenience
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
Ubuntu is built on top of Debian, so why not just cut out the retarded middleman and go to the source?
>>55453009
1 Virtual Machine
2 Bootable Thing (LIVE CD, LIVE USB)
3 Actuall Install
4 ?????
5 Profit!
>>55453009
mint to get real work done
redhat to learn to compile your own kernel
arch/gentoo/ubuntu to be popular with preteen nerd bois
>>55459290
Mint is nothing but a slightly riced ubuntu... With some non-free packages ootb
>>55453009
>>inb4 gentoo
You dare come on to /g/ and not expect people to tell you to install the greatest distro linux has to offer, not to mention THE /g/ distro? Go back to lurking you cuckfag
>>55459479
The thing about Gentoo is you don't simply install it like any other system. In fact, there isn't an installer. Setting it up involves partitioning a hard disk yourself, copying over some bootstrap files to support a compiler, then using the package manager, Portage, to compile anything and everything you want to use. Things like a system logger which normally come a Linux distribution you have to explicitly key in commands to build it and then configure it yourself. With a system like Ubuntu you can have it up and going in an hour, but with Gentoo you'll easily be spending days or a whole week getting it working, depending on how fast your computer is and how efficient you are. I use Gentoo and I'm pretty happy with it, but there isn't a single person I know I would recommend it to.
>>55459588
Thank you for telling me how the set up works even though I've done it a dozen times.
>>55453009
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>55453009
You should install chrome. It's the only sane browser out there and it works well on GNU/Linux if you know how to set it up.
>>55459703
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.
There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.
>>55459761
>Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities
Jesus christ, this pasta was made by a complete tech illiterate.
>>55453009
Linux From Scratch is a simple linux distribution aimed at inexperienced users who are starting from scratch.
>>55453009
Linux Mint. It's the easiest one to set up. Plus if you have a radeon card it works out of the box
>>55453009
For the easiest way: Ubuntu.
It is the best supported Linux and has the most polished user-facing everything. Even the command line has some beautiful automagic that makes things really easy. (For example, it has the best tab completion out of the box)
Or, if you want to dig more into the core of Linux, you could
>install gentoo
(Or try to work with LFS)
Have been using Lubuntu for a couple of months and switched to linux mint mate. The performance on my laptop is pretty crappy. Are there any good derivatives using the lxde desktop?
Ignore all the meme suggestions, just get Ubuntu if you want a polished OS that just werks
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
>>55459761
>Linux comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX
What? In what way?
>>55460484
>Linux is ... another free component of a fully functioning GNU system ... comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Not Linux. The fully functioning GNU system, which Linux is one component of. Read the whole sentence.
>>55457002
This is sane advice. I'd advice Debian after getting your hands dirty with Ubuntu if you still like it, but don't want to deal with Canonical.
Ubuntu GNOME is really nice. I never hear it mentioned but it's more intuitive than Unity imo. If hardware isn't so great, Xubuntu.
>>55453009
debian
>>55461327
people don't really like gnome 3. i hear it's better now, but most people are still very skeptical of it.
>>55453009
Ubuntu, any flavour
>>55459734
>Chrome
>Not chromium (+pepperflash if you're into that)
>Not GNU IceCat or Firefox ESR
>>55457002
This.
The people recommending Gentoo or Arch want you to fail off the get-go. It's too big of a jump if you are not used to the terminal.
Linux is not worth it, don't even try man.
>>55461856
OP here, I took someone's advice and tried to install Arch Linux, and I got pretty far, but now I don't know how to get a GUI, so I'm leaving Arch.
>>55461886
>Believe me instead of trying for yourself
Linux isn't that hard. Idk why you regards keep fucking saying shit like "finally getting the balls" just fucking install it you fucktard. If you don't like it go back. Linux isn't some alien software shit. Fuck.
>>55461946
Believe me, I have been there, and it is horrifying.
>>55461997
Have you tried not being an idiot?
>>55461712
It was really bad when it was first released, but pretty much all desktop environments are much better these days. Especially GNOME 3.
I use Cinnamon for my system, Unity on my work box, and GNOME 3 in my Debian VMs. They are all really nice, but when they were all released initially, they all had their issues.
>GNOME 3 didn't allow simple window management, and removed every feature ever.
>Cinnamon was incredibly buggy.
>Unity was reaaaally heavy and had Amazon integration that was probably one of the worst decisions for it.
All of these have addressed these issues, and are all actually really pleasant to work with. However, you still get lots of people saying "lol<Insert desktop here>" because of a five-year-old view of the state of them.
can someone explain to me why use linux over windows? or why use linux at all? should I switch over to linux from windows?
>>55462943
There are reasons to use Linux over Windows just like there are reasons to use Windows over Linux. Someone might reply with reasons later while also including the obligatory GNU interjection.
>>55461997
>>55461886
>t
>>55459588
If you want an installer just install Sabayon. https://www.sabayon.org/
>>55462943
Depends.
How old are you and how long have you been using Windows
If you're older or have been using Windows for a very long time do you have the patience to learn to use a new OS
Do you pirate software?
Are you concerned about Microsoft being able to see everything you type on your pc including passwords to all sites you visit?
Do you want to play video games for over 40% of your time spent on the PC, and if yes do you have the patience for Linux to get full video game support?
Do you use your pc for any illegal activities, or personal activities which you don't want to share with Microsoft?
Do you use Windows exclusive software for a job or a hobby?
Linux is overall more secure, but windows still has a better software support although you can emulate some programs though vine.
If you're worried about Microsoft botnet but still want to use it for something (software/gaming) use a separate hard drive for it and just don't access anything personal like your bank accounts and emails.
>>55454443
>Arch users just like to think that there system is up to par with Gentoo
Imagined enemies much? Is this a system optimized meme? How many days did it take to compile?
>>55459703
Yo, fatso! Linus named it Linux, so that's what I'm calling it.
>>55462943
If you have none of your own reasons (Curiosity was my original reason), and are comfortable with Windows, there really isn't any, though I'll tell you mine:
I use Linux because I am much more efficient with it as a programmer, and I like the stupid little things you can do with it "Just to try it". For example I have mountpoints for all kinds of volumes, so if I wanted to, I could use one of my S3 buckets as a Git repository.
Would I? Probably not. But I just thought that up, and it is possible with very little effort!
It's not just dumb things though, but whenever I think "Hey, know what would be cool?", I can readily accomplish it with very little effort. As a result, I often make things that genuinely become incredibly useful. For example, I made a Chrome shortcut that, when I hit [Windows] + [C] on some text, it saves it as a note with a link in Org Mode.
The fact that I could make it in about ten minutes is a vast improvement over trying to hack out a handler in Powershell or something, and the end result is a super-useful research tool that I use on a regular basis.
You might think of other things you might want to do, and if you have the ability to make those things, Linux will let you do it much more readily than Windows.
As for the interface, there are little things that you appreciate in Linux desktops, like the ability to hold [Alt] and drag windows with that, or how easy multiple desktops are to use. You can even drag and drop text from a web browser onto your desktop and it makes a text file with that test.
tl;dr - Control is fun.
>>55463089
20
Been using windows for 2 years. Was mainly on mac
Internet company watches when I pirate so i cant do it anymore
no
idk what that means
not now, but maybe soon
trying to getting into coding. learning C++
Anything, but run Gnome.
>>55460377
why dont you just use lubuntu
install arch with architecte
>>55463220
Linux is Linux. The part you're mistaken on is which part the OS is, and which thing you should say you're using.
>>55453009
Why?
>>55463220
Linus didn't, he called it Freax
>>55463696
Yep. Random manager of the original FTP server called it Linux.
How much Wikipedia can teach you
