apple gets a lot of hate here but you have to admit the mac pro was an excellent design when it was announced in 2013
since there are expected updates coming this year so who's /upgradingtomacpro/ this year?
Neat concept, needs better cooling.
>>55450919
>design
Too bad that was all it was.
>>55450933
what's wrong with it's cooling system?
Nice trashcan OP
>>55450983
great meme man :-) still going strong 3 years later
![Mac-Pro_2013_Mac-Pro_2013[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VrTLfXA.jpg "Mac-Pro_2013_Mac-Pro_2013[1].jpg")
"upgrade"
>>55450967
It was barely adequate, and all the components could throttle under certain conditions. Ran pretty hot under normal loads.
>>55451052
>a whole bunch of shit not even necessary and entirely a user-to-user basis
wow you got me
officially a cruz-missle now
>>55451077
The target market fr the mac pro are professionals. Every thing listed there is arguably used and needed by some kind of professional.
Not him btw.
>>55451097
Optical media basically dead, and everyone uses network storage.
![mac%20mini%202012%2002-1200-80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yLmCuvr.jpg "mac%20mini%202012%2002-1200-80[1].jpg")
>>55451077
here is the product for you then
glad i could be of service
>>55451111
>everyone uses network storage
Nigger have you ever tried to copy 250GBs over NAT?
>>55451077
Yep, dont know why people insist on those arguments.
If apple stops using something on their products, it stops being relevant.
>>55451111
>network storage
>>55451111
>and everyone uses network storage
Are you retarded? Try editing several hundred gigs of movie clips over network storage.
>>55450919
It wouldn't piss me off so much if they sold a real version alongside the new piece of shit
>>55451155
>>55451137
>>55451126
>idiots who don't actually work with computers in any professional capacity
The Mac Pro has two internal PCI-E SSDs, and dual gigabit NICs. Yes, professionals use network storage.
>>55450919
I thought the way they got all the parts so tightly compact was pretty innovative, but at the same time the Mac Pro is pretty god damn ugly. Glossy plastic is a very dated design, reminds me of cheap Chinese electronics. There are much better looking cases out there.
>>55451077
>not having hdd
>muh cloud
>>55450919
Round designs are great from an aesthetics point of view but rather impractical in actual use. Harder to access parts, and not really space efficient either because nearly everything else on a desk would be some form of rectangular.
>>55451126
>>55451155
Yes, do you think a bonded ethernet connection is slower than writing DVDs?
>>55450919
>shit gpu and throttles as shit
>round design that fits nowhere
Apple died the moment Jobs died.
>>55451525
This better be bait you fucking retard.
>>55451574
I guess i have my answer, thank you /g/
apple retards will defend this
fuck i should've applied for janitor
>>55450919
We have six of these at work. If you've never seen one, they're a lot smaller than you think they are. But then they have to be small enough to fit on a desk, because all the fucking cables for everything Mac-centric are only four inches long.
Also don't put anything like a book on top of one while it's running.
>>55451833
how is this off-topic this is a perfectly acceptable technology discussion about a computer you fucking idiot
>>55451598
Not him but I used to work at an IT company who had a client in one of the third world countries, and our location was based in the US. It was actually faster for us to build a small Samba server, send it to them for them to transfer their 4TB of storage and then ship it back. So it always depends on the circumstances.
>>55451855
how efficient is the heatsink with normal use? does it collect dust?
if i get a mac pro will i attract qts like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfdhMt1spiA
![chrome_2016-07-07_07-07-17[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/MdltIJM.png "chrome_2016-07-07_07-07-17[1].png")
>>55451897
You mean QT's like this?
>>55451880
We've only had them for a couple months, but I expect to have to hit them with the air compressor sooner or later. Regarding heat, under low usage the air coming out is probably about as hot as your breath if you exhale slowly; never been around them under heavy load. I just tell people to keep their coffee in that top indention thing.
>>55450919
Sexy, but it's fucking 2016, put fucking skylake + latest AMD graphics for gods sake.
>>55450919
>800mhz
>>55451423
>glossy
You could easily send the outer cover through a tumbler and have a rough surface.
>>55451931
yeah i'm waiting for a refresh too
if it's refreshed this year it's an insta-buy for me
looking at 5 years usability with good upgradability options and good resale value after 5 years
>>55451964
>that bezel
>>55451940
>stale laptop memes when discussing a workstation
>>55451982
yeah fuck iMacs desu
looking at mac pro with 21:9 monitor addition
>>55451931
>latest AMD graphics
That custom motherboard is probably expensive to make, so they don't want to go around frying the PCIE slots.
>>55451989
>stale apple memeshit when discussing workstations
>>55451982
It's almost as if there's a computer in there
this is better
Man the release of the retina MBP was the moment Apple told professional users to go fuck themselves.
>>55451807
2.7
isnt that kind of bad
>>55452048
>Megahurtz myth
So, it's a trashcan?
>>55452033
So it basically has all the disadvantages of the Mac Pro AND it looks like cheap gamer shit?
>>55452081
i don't understand the indian apple meme
can someone explain this to me?
>>55452079
Don't you mean advantage for being portable?
Also it has gaming specs while the mac pro would never be able to + PCIE flash.
>>55452087
It was used to describe MS employees and shitty programmers then some retard started spamming it in Apple threads. I'm sure it's just one guy.
No, it's still objectively bad and throttles under demanding use.
Redesigning the wheel doesn't automatically make the revision better or clever. In this case, the only way to get the footprint down was to have a shared heatsink that really wasn't big enough for any major component on its own.
>>55452087
it's the latest fashion that flew over from the exotic boards of /pol/.
Someone made a meme webm based on an episode of Silicon Valley and now all the summerfriends have taken to reposting it.
>>55452087
There's nothing to explain, it's just a thing people here say to evade any kind of debate or differentiation. It's not really about Indians, it's about having the last word. Many children do very similar stuff for the same effect. It's very fucking annoying.
In fact, the response to this post will also be "Poo in loo Rajeesh" or something similar.
>>55450919
Excellent design for a tandoori
>>55452259
>>55452087
>>55452081
>>55452068
>>55451807
>>55451052
>>55450983
10,000 rupees have been deposited into your mumbai account
>>55450919
Maybe as a high-end counterpart to the Mac Mini, not as a lobotomized low-end workstation with no expansion capability whatsoever unless you want to rely on latent interfaces that fill your desk with ugly clutter, totally missing the point of the fucked up cylindrical design that is incompatible with pretty much any piece of human-style furniture in existence.
>>55451077
Considering the Mac Pro's primary market is multimedia content editors, it's very necessary to be able to run a lot of disks to store high-resolution video, or a co-processor like a Xeon Phi or Tesla if you're an education/scientific customer.
It's a ton of unnecessary compromise for a totally wrong market, they could have designed a nice-looking product that worked just as well without having to go for this retarded "space-saving" shit that ends up saving very little space at all in the end.
>>55450919
>excellent design
Indeed. Apple has shown great strides in this area.
>>55452033
>>55452079
Cryorig Ola looks much better than both.
>>55452087
>>55452649
every 1 in 3 engineers in the bay area period is indian
another 1 in 3 are asian
and last 1 in 3 are white
trash article
>>55451272
>two internal PCI-E SSDs
other entry-level workstations made by companies that actually perform well in the professional market can fit three to four standard disks plus two or three additional PCI-E SSDs
>dual gigabit NICs
>it has TWO OF THEM it's REALLY FAST guys
jesus fuck you're dumb
>Yes, professionals use network storage.
most "professionals" do use network storage but they don't edit their content over it, why the fuck would you do that at all? why would you open yourself to instability, inconsistent performance, and other inevitable mishaps that can arise on very large corporate networks?
and even if you were lucky enough to work at a place fitted with 10-gig it's still slower than SAS or PCI-E storage and not nearly as reliable or consistent
>>55450919
Is it me or does it look 10 times better without the aluminum trash can plate?
>>55451423
>glossy plastic
that's anodized aluminium you cuck
>>55452640
>the most powerful computer company in the world
>this is the best they could come up with
>>55450919
It was a nice design.
With a horrible price tag.
With a shit cooling.
With shit upgrade-ability.
So... yeah, design. Again. It's Apple.
>>55451077
The picture literally shows a working person's "gear". The person who earned the money to buy one, not the one who is living in mom's basement.
>>55452048
It's for encoding, 3D work (render).
Not for games, compiling, 3D work.
But mate, if you have money AND brains, you would not buy it. So ... there is nothing to talk about, really.
>>55452014
the computer is in the fucking back though, I had an iMac at work.
I'm just worried that the already "meh" hardware will just get downgraded to a MacBook level to make it so sleek and light and what the fuck not.
I don't care if my iMac pushes out lava on the top, who the fuck cares? At least it can do real work.
>>55452775
They should make a transparent casing
>>55452589
Summerfag detected
>>55453078
Same here it looks damn sexy just looking at the parts
>>55450919
>mac pro was announced 3 years ago
>>55452716
>most "professionals" do use network storage but they don't edit their content over it
You're 100% wrong there.
High end production houses use high speed SAN storage for multiple editors to access content.
iSCSI and SAS has plenty of performance for this kind of thing.
Most places have workstations with barely any flash storage built in just for a scratch disk, it's not worth buying more.
If you went to a video company and suggested using optical media in the year of our lord 2016, they would laugh you out of the fucking room.
>excellent design
No pci-e
No hdd bays
>>55453066
Sure there's some behind the screen but it's not like the space bezels just huge because it can be
>>55453101
>If you went to a video company and suggested using optical media in the year of our lord 2016, they would laugh you out of the fucking room.
Confirmed for talking out of your ass.
>>55453112
It has six Thunderbolt 2 ports, each of those ports are essentially a PCI-E 4x interface.
You can literally get Thunderbolt PCI-E enclosures for add-in cards and just plug them in.
>>55450919
Who put this together, some suicidal slant-eyed mongoloid?
>>55453138
Are you some kind of retard? Nobody uses optical anymore, most computers don't even ship with optical drives anymore. Nobody buys DVDs, even Blu-Ray sales are dropping like a stone.
Modern production houses target streaming and digital distribution.
>>55453101
/thread
>>55453153
Still nothing to pciex16, which is what real professionals use. The Mac Pro is a joke, a $13,000 joke.
>>55453172
Never seen an 8gb DIMM before?
>>55453195
Are you retarded?
>>55453190
What "professional" PCI-E expansion card needs a 16x slot?
Most audio and video gear only needs a 1x slot, even high end RAID cards and shit like that only need a 4x.
>>55453202
Are you? I still don't know what the fuck you're complaining about.
>>55453219
B-but "professional" means larger numbers, right???
>>55452823
Sure thing.
>>55451897
is she retarded?
>>55453333
>apple user
Take a wild guess.
>>55453384
ebin
![neo_md_myth-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ifxjwjw.jpg "neo_md_myth-1[1].jpg")
>>55453153
>>55452640
what is that connection under the mouse? usb? for recharging? you can't use your mouse while charging? that would be fucked up
>>55453445
For charging
>>55453445
>>55453455
oh wow
http://gizmodo.com/the-sad-reality-of-the-magic-mouse-2-1746949289
this must be a joke at apple that goes "what else we can sell those fuckers"
>2 7950s
>hexacore cpu
>150W power supply
what a homosexual company
>>55453487
>things that never happened
only care about imacs and macbooks
>>55453486
>http://www.apple.com/shop/reviews/MLA02LL/A/magic-mouse-2
>I'm surprised by the number of reviews that complain about the charging port being on the bottom, thus preventing them from using the mouse while charging. Can anyone post a link to a rechargeable mouse that CAN be used while charging?
apple literally can put apple logo on shit and people would it gladly
>>55453517
> 7 of 8 people found this useful
>>55450967
see
>>55451060
the machine pretty much has to be ran in less than 70 degree environments and even then it still will throttle when both gpu and cpu are under heavy load.
from a cost and manufacturing standpoint its fantastic. less parts and smaller design. allows them to build them cheaper than previous generations.
it also prevents people from being able to upgrade the video card and hard drives later on which has been their bane with the previous mac pro. a lot of users still kept their core 2 quads and early nehalem machines since the cpu was powerful enough and they were able to upgrade their video cards. even with non apple cards.
now with the itrash design you want faster gpu? buy a new itrash. want to upgrade your hard drive / ssd? buy a new itrash or litter your desk with externals.
>>55453176
professionals in the media industry still use optical.
shit i still use it to rip blu-rays and music.
>>55453226
>I still don't know
>>55451052
Fuck thats a nice case
>>55453530
So basicly it looks pretty.
>>55453530
>rom a cost and manufacturing standpoint its fantastic. less parts and smaller design. allows them to build them cheaper than previous generations.
>Custom everything
>Cheaper than previous generations
Will plebs ever learn?
No one is forcing you to buy superior Apple products. In fact, stay as far away as you can from them. We really do not need greasy NEET virgins associated with the Apple image. Apple's pricing and philosophy are designed exactly to keep out the uncultivated masses. Stay poor, stay anti-technology, stay using inferior products, and as always, stay mad.
>>55453487
ok, so it's 450W
still nowhere near enough to not choke the components
>>55453681
stay nigger, progressive and homosexual. also poor and stupid
>>55453681
You are right, Apple devices are made for people who can afford them. They aren't made because they are somehow better or similar to anything else
But i do need to interject: I bought a Mac Mini because of its compact design and i've got a 2012er one for around 120 bucks which was way better than buying a prebuilt $something in the same format with almost the same Specs. Also i bought my Macbook back in 2014 simply becauase it came with a SSD and 8Gb ram, back then i couldn't find a Laptop with the same spaces, it either came with a SSD but less Ram or 8GB ram but a fucking 1tb 5200 rpm hdd
>>55451111
>Optical media basically dead
Not for photographers with years of CD backups.
>>55453681
>hiptacular african american gentlemen music
>>55453779
$30 for a usb dvd drive and you retards can use it on every fucking device that doesn't have an optical drive. nobody wants that bullshit as standard, nobody uses it anymore
>>55453176
The average professional in media industry (ie event videomaker/operator) still relies on optical to sell their products and probably will for many years since is the only way to sell a physical copy which is always requested.
ITT people are mad because they can't afford anything else besides a T420 running a depreciated/glorified server OS
PS : also mad because apple engineers are Indians and better than them
PPS : they'll probably make an unfunny joke like "poo in the loo" to prove my point
>>55450933
>needs better cooling
or just newer lithography and HBM graphics cards
>>55451964
>good upgradability options
You really think so?
>>55453486
Apple mice suck but apple trackpads are great.
>>55451155
That's.... what tv postproduction facilities uses.
A reality show make like 10TB a week, do you think we use external hdd?
(Source: i'm a tv postprod admin).
MacPro is still useless in a shared enviroment, but that another problem
>>55454202
10tb a week is a lot, how do you check and select the final footage? How many people work on it?
(Asking cause i'm young and I'll probably work in this industry, most I did until now was 130gb for an event on my own, everything in low bitrate)
>>55454288
Take in mind that a reality can go for 24/7 with multiple audio and HD video fluxes.
Ie. We are doing Jersey Shore in Spain for the second time (supershore now) and the house has 8 85MB/s fluxes with 8audio channel each. Every hour,every day for a month!
All workstations are gigabit/dualgigabit/10gigabit to get by.
Tv news are even worse because they keep a daily archive.
(Of course, if you work on events/single production at a time you need waaaaaaaaay less shit to work well)
>>55454288
Ah, there are batteries of people logging all the material in real time to even get an idea to what"s going on
>>55450919
>the mac pro was an excellent design
>>55454288
Not previous poster, but most places will edit with proxy/offline footage and then use the original footage for the final render.
Shared data is generally using fibrechannel/xsan setups and not just a shitty 1gbps network.
>>55454380
So you basically edit surveillance footage
My school had a few but they just couldn't keep up or perform
Just throttle my shit up
>>55453333
she does have an uncomfortable attachment to apple in general.
http://www.viddler.com/v/4b69c193
>>55453681
>2 rupees have been disposed to your iTunes™ account, Pajeet
>>55453681
every apple store is packed full of mulattoes blaring rap out of their phone's speakers or unhappy Indian parents looking for a laptop for their daughter.
>>55453810
>elton john
>daft punk
>mgmt
>styx
>AC/DC
>LOTR soundtrack
>black
nigga that's about as white as music can get
i've used a 2013 macpro for a year in 2014 during my spell as one of video editor in my previous company.
i have to admit... working on it is a breeze, everything happen the instant i click anything. may be its because the OSX (maverick) but im not sure. i have a quite high end windows 7 pc with ssd myself, but the difference in smoothness is noticably felt.
but my pc still boots faster though lol
>>55455578
jesus, what a piece of work she must be
>>55456010
my spec if anyone wanna know
i7 3770k, 16gb ddr3, 120 samsung evo, r9 285
>>55454432
reality tv IS surveillance footage, honestly
>>55455724
>dad rock
kill yourself
>>55453195
>8gb DIMM
Yes. Pic related
>>55456033
why are you on such an extremely out of date version of OSX?
>>55450919
all the design features and flaws
none of the over priced bull shit
>>55451964
>expecting apple shit to last more than 5 years
Yesss goyim, this shiny revolutionary new design will last soooo much longer than all our other obsoleted products combined! We here at apple have absolutely nothing to gain from forcing you to upgrade your hardware every two years!
>>55456382
iirc in 2014 (the year i work with a mac pro) maverick was the latest osx
>>55457005
i have a piece of shit low-end macbook pro from 2011 and it's still going strong stupid faggot
you can cover your ears and pretend that macs don't statistically have a much longer lifespan than windows but it's true
>>55456886
>blatantly copy the mac pro design
>still runs windows
shit system, gtx 1080 is a nice touch though
>>55451155
Just make a ramdisk and buy a used 10GbE network card retard. Its literally 20 dollars on eBay. When you are done editing you can copy the result while sleeping.
>>55452646
I prefer cryorig's taku.
Still curious why apple never though of that.
>>55453118
disgusting
>>55457408
Nicely said, iPajeet!
>>55457408
>longer lifespan than windows
are you fucking retarded?
>>55457684
>>55457829
Not an argument.
>>55457654
Why?
>>55453094
>gets offended when someone calls out his shilling on an anonymous image board
>better call him summerfag :^)
>>55453333
she probabyl gets all that shit for free anyway
>>55450919
I want one of these with the fucking huge displays but I don't do any work that needs that power
>>55459458
>greentext
>defense mode
>:^)
Schools should stay open year round.
>>55457193
/g/ is too stupid for macs
>>55453445
It charges in a few minutes. Lasts for months.
>>55452013
>implying that only apple monitors fail
>>55459586
that video's views alone already paid for the mac pro for her
>>55453333
She's laughing all the way to the bank
>>55451052
Bait but i'm biting
>power bar, wouldn't be on the desk along with cables
>Apogee would be there on both, no need for it to be there
>Bluray/ dvd drive AND dvd drive?
A lot of the stuff next to the 2013 model would be next to the 2012 model as we. Good meming
