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1070 or 480?
poor and don't play games? - 480
have dough and play games - 1070
gaming at 1080P resolution? 480
want to feel like you have a big dick because you live paycheck to paycheck and you put the last couple pennies you had this week into your pc? 1070
they're different cards targeting different market segments
that's like asking whether you should buy a maserati or a corolla
>>55422734
Well, they still haven't fixed overhead with the 480 so unless you're using a 3770k or stronger cpu, go with nvidia.
>>55422821
Has nothing to do with that. Totally different markets.
The 480 is lowend mid card. It cannot beat the 290x/970 in the majority of games.
The 1070 is for 1080p 60fps +
It can do 1440 pretty well too
8gb 480 for 1080p (or wait for 1060 if you don't want AMD)
1070 for 1440p (or wait for 490 if you don't want Nvidia)
>poor because your gaming addiction prevents you from holding a proper job
480
>rich because all you do is gloat about your material possessions because its a vapid way of validating your sorry existence
1070
>>55422734
Do you value your motherboard?
Yes: 1070
No: 480
>>55423002
>It cannot beat the 290x/970 in the majority of games.
And yet when comparing the reference 480 to the reference 970, the 480 wins almost always.
>>55422861
this.
There is no reason to buy a graphics card that'll fry your motherboard and have horrible drivers
>>55422734
Similar question:
Used 780ti OC for $200 or used 7970 for $120?
Is the performance gain going to be noticeable enough to justify the extra cost?
>>55423145
if you've got a solid cpu the 7970 would be the better value choice, assuming it's nt reference
>>55422734
1060
>>55422734
furute wise (as in you want this card to be relevant for at least 2 years) 480
now wise (given that 2016 might be the last year any big game will come on dx11 and you dont care about dx12 perf ) buy 1070
>>55423154
My CPU is shit but it will be the next upgrade since I will have to get a whole new board and memory.
So would it make more sense to get the faster card so I can get more time out of it? The 7970 isn't reference it's Double Dissipation.
>>55423002
the card literally stomps 970 on most games and in some cases are close to 980
and shills says the card is shit..
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-benchmark-review-23-games-tested-three-resolutions/
>>55422861
What is this issue you are mentioning, I have not heard of it yet.
>>55423194
Nobody uses low end cards like the 480 and 970 for 1440p.
>>55423063
its like a $100 difference jesus christ
>>55423212
mid tier became low end
being this much into damage control
>>55423194
>4% gain
>Against a card that can increase its performance by up to 15% and become a stock 980.
Maximus kek.
>>55423182
that depends, 780 ti is much more powerful than a 7970 so it will perform much better, but if it digs into you cpu budget later down the road you might come to regret it.
so if you have the money to spare, 780 ti would be better, but if you're trying to be conservative then the 7970 is a solid option. at stock it should perform right between a gtx960 and 970.
I'm considering upgrading my GPU to a 1070. Currently running a Intel 4670k, would it be worth upgrading to a 4690 to prevent bottlenecking?
>>55423230
because we all know 480 cant overclock
oh shit wait people are already on 1400+ that is already above 980
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603915/any-official-polaris-threads-coming-soon
who would have knew
>>55423209
read the thread...
>>55422734
do you like wasting your money?
1070
>>55422734
until they fix 480, not a 1070 but a 4mb vodoo is better since it won't fry your rig
>>55423194
The 970 is a 1080p card not a 1440. Eveyone knows that and
Please post that again in the 1080p
>>55423247
Because they can't overclock. Looking on reviews You'll be lucky if you gain something like 80Mhz on core without frying the card, most reviewers can't get a 5% gain out of it.
>Mentioning some ghetto cards that managed to OC by installing water cooling that's more expensive than the card itself.
Wew lad.
>>55423249
because surely with dx11 being so relevant on 2016 amd needs to fix the whatever overhead they might have...
god damn everyday paid shills find a new excuse and every day they get stomped
>>55423247
https://youtu.be/ysnHdXqG7Gw
nah
Oh and also buying a new gpu & then having to literally stress the bollocks off it.
Its bad when you have to compare it with a 970 which is 2 years old.
>>55423270
>Cooler is not good enough
>You cannot change it for another
what reference card can actually overclock well?
>>55423233
Second question.
Would it make more sense to spend the money on a new mobo/cpu/ram to replace this bullshit Core 2 Quad I'm on?
I feel like I'd get more practical gains from upgrading the main components but I don't do much but gaming, a little photoshop/video editing, and internet so a new GPU wouldn't be totally retarded.
>>55423271
But you didn't stomp anything, dx12 is being slowly adopted, there's still many dx11 titles, and there will be dx11 titles coming up.
skyrim was still dx9 ffs
>>55423262
who cares? 480 is obviously more than capable to provide nice gaming on 1440p..
>>55423270
yeah and i just showed to you 48 pages of people that actually can overclock it rather well
hmm who should we trust paid youtubers or random people that actually got the card and are doing tests with it?
>>55423271
They get stomped only in your head shill. Go call customers with fried mobos shills on AMD forum.
>dx12
>relevant in 2016
Can't wait for those whole 10 games coming out in 2017 that include DX12 - Not to mention AMD poorfags probably won't be playing most of them since they're protected by Denuvo and somehow I don't see you buying a $60 game lmao.
>>55423293
Because the card (the 480) was marketed as a cheap low/mid rnaged card.
Who the fuck buys a cheap gpu and 1440p monitors?
>>55423304
people who do work and play occasionally.
rx480 is perfect card for this people.
>>55423304
AMD fags do, they waste money on an AMD gpu, they then need to choose a stronger cpu or higher resolution screen to overcome the horrible drivers.
gg
>>55423293
Honestly? Youtubers, you shills already convinced me to buy 280x once, had to RMA it after a month. I'll pass on your lack of drivers and overheating issues even on non-ref cards.
I have a Gigabyte ULTRA DURABLE motherboard
Is it safe to buy a 480?
>>55423291
its slow compared to what? to dx8? dx11 had its first game 2 years after ms released it..
dx12 had its first game 8 months after ms released it..
also i have yet to see any BIG game on dx11 this year the majority of them are on mantle/dx12 already
>>55423298
go get your daily check shill total warhammer
>hurr durr nvidia can do async
>much awesome
>no problems at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnFv8cnjZA
the stuttering just burns our eyes
thats what you get for emulated hardware features
>>55423327
>majority of games are on mantle
So they won't work with preGCN cards or anything from Nvidia?
That sounds exactly like what a dev wants when he's selling his game, right?
Kys
>>55423291
>slowly adopted
no, DX10 was slowly adopted, DX12 is as fast in adoption rates as DX9
>>55423327
Jokes on you, Nvidia actually pushes for Mantle/Vulkan as they have a slight edge. DX12 will probably become mainstream anyway since it's easier to use and MS is just too big and powerful to give up but it's nowhere near majority you pathetic shill.
>>55423304
the card is literally replacing 380 a mid tier card now its low tier
god damn those paid shills
>>55423322
how do you recognize a paid shill
>had to rma it
>overheating on aib cards
literally you dont know wtf you are talking about do you know..
>>55423341
oh no he is going to remove all of his features he had on amd consoles just because nvidia didnt want to use them..
rotr did this and look how it became using vxao along with dx12 literally destroyed everything below 980 what a good path lel
>>55423365
>Nvidia actually pushes for Mantle as they have a slight edge
yea, from 100% to 0% sure is a slight edge.
>>55423325
Yes. Relax.
>>55423365
nvidia doesnt have a slight edge never did on mantle or vulkan lel
especially on mantle since it was built around amd cards....literally using async as a prime feature..
what nvidia is doing is they are impleting an nvidia specific path
because when we keep saying that when nvidia say dx12.1 is just a marketing BS we know it and ok you could say aots was a benchmark game..
qb showed the exact same thing
hitman too..
and now total warhammer..
that is the price of emulating instead of using it on hardware
>>55423373
You're too retarded to even talk with. Stop wasting my time. It's kind of ironic that Nvidia tries to push for Vulkan when they were all about DX11 and anti-AMD (Since AMD created Mantle which is basis of Vulkan) since it turns out their current cards can't do async in dx12. But please go and tell me how 6 incoming dx12 titles are majority of released games in 2016.
>>55423370
>It didn't happen to me so you're lying :DDD
Everyone who has any sort of technical issue with AMD products is getting boycotted by rabid fan base, I get it. Never again,I had to fucking manually undervolt and install a custom bios on my 280x to make sure it stops displaying artifacts when reaching 80-85 degrees.
What would you guys recommend as an upgrade to a 4670k if upgrading to the 1070?
>>55423401
only reason AMD has worse performance in Vulkan is because their OpenGL driver sucks.
Vulkan is not build on Mantle, it's build on OpenGL.
>>55423401
we need proofs your word is as good as mine
saying an aib was overheating is just shit there isnt any aftermarket 280 that have passed 70c
unless you are saying that 70c is too hot now.......
>>55423424
vulkan is literally mantle over opengl....
their code path is literally the same
as it goes with dx12 too only thing that changed is the name of the commands.. the structure the usage its the same
>>55423370
>380
>mid tier
Choose 1
>>55423439
if you dont know amd brackets then why do you even post
amd has 4 brackets..
low mid high enthusiast.. 380 was a mid stop denying the facts shill
>>55423436
What Vulkan does is take renderer of Mantle and replaces is with OpenGL and then creates compatibility with what is left.
It's still OpenGL that draws the image and DX12 it's still Direct3D that draws the image.
Get the GPU that you can get the highest FPS in games with. Money is just a scam and you should ignore the price completely.
Wanting to have the best experience graphically is not about ego, it's about enjoying life.
>>55423458
this the guy said it right
look how good you can enjoy your fps on a 700 dollar gpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnFv8cnjZA
>>55423121
>Nvidiot talking about GPUs overheating
Pottery
>>55423455
So you are going off what AMD say. They said the 480 would use less power than a 390.
They were wrong.
Why should I go off AMD brackets. They literally have 1 decent upper mid card which is the fury.
>>55423479
Holy shit a fucking 1080 can't even break 60FPS?
What the fuck else is he running this with? I'd be salty as fuck if I spent 500+ on a GPU and it was still the bottleneck.
>had a chance to get Zotac 1070 from Newegg
>waffled for a day
>Auto-Notify when back in stock
Fuck
>>55423509
Theres no cpu out there that can handle the 1080, they all bottle. Common knowledge
>>55423505
are you actually this retarded that you suggest a card with less hardware and on a new node is actually passing the 350 watts of 390?
did you actually stated that now or you are drunk?
>>55423522
that is async in action not a cpu bottleneck
the last card nvidia had and could actually do a decent level of async was the 780ti
>>55423531
Even if he was drunk he still stated it...
God dammit you're both autistic fucks
>>55423547
How is that card? I have an opportunity to snag a used OC version for like 200 bucks.
How much better is a 1070 than a 980? I'm considering getting one but it's 130 dollarydoos more.
>>55423562
in aots it trade blows with 980 till 2k after that it doesnt have the memory for it..
but the funny part is that nvidia cant gimp it on dx12 because it has a hardcoded hardware sc it will naturally be fast on it
>>55423571
It averages above a 980 ti, so I'd say it's fairly better
Wait for the 490, better clock speeds + async compute means it'll blow the 1070 out of the water and cost $100 less.
1080.
>tfw my 1080 arrives today
>>55423583
Well then, I'll have to mull it over. Would a 4670k bottleneck the 1070 too hard, or would I have to upgrade that as well?
>the last card nvidia had and could actually do a decent level of async
2 780 here
I hope this true or
NVIDIOT BTFO ON SUCIDE WATHC
>>55423571
if you can get good aftermark 980ti for less, you should be golden.
>>55423607
future wise (dx12) dont even think about it
>>55423605
>>55423595
Async is LITERALLY a crutch for shitty drivers. If the GPU is hitting 100% utilization like Nvidia cards are and AMD cards aren't, async compute has no benefit.
>>55423614
>future wise
>dx12
Kek. DX12 is dead in the water.
>>55422734
490
>When the 3.5gb meme triggered nvidia shills so much that they pretend it's possible for a graphics card to "fry" a PCIe slot.
>>55423615
well amd calls it async
nvidia calls it stuttering
>>55423621
>2016
>not a single big dx11 except of rotr
dx12 is dead on water
I CANT TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE SENPAI I GOT THIS BUT WHAT GPU DO I GET FOR IT FUCKS SAKE THIS WAS DRIT CHEAP AND MY STUDENT BUDGET IS FUCKED ALREADY HOW DO I GET A GOOD GPU NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55423640
seriously throw that psu on the trash can or in nvidia hq same thing
get an enermax with a lifetime warranty
for triple screen 22"? 1070 or 480
>>55423640
Ditch the unlocked processor since you'll probably never overclock. Use the 50 bucks you save to get a real PSU that won't set your house on fire.
>>55423661
Is enermax really that much more bang for buck, I got this one cos there was a offer for it and Im kinda running out of cash, I mean I could trash the case and get something cheaper, put the money from there and get a enermax but they are shit out of offers and i kinda wanted a 500W one because if I get the 480 it might zappidy zapp my mainboard from what I have heard. Problem still is that im probably gonna be running this trashcan with potatoes for gpus, im not getting the stock 480 and even if I wait most likely i will still be shit out of cash cos its vecation time anyway almost.
>>55423681
But what if in 10 years I dont get bombed and still want to use my pc and my cpu and gpu and everything are shit out of time. Would overclocking for that jucy 5% I'm gonna get not be worth it really ? I was really planning on overclocking it at some point. Also sorry for retard sentenses and spelling im stoned like a cheating muslim wife.
>was gonna buy a 970 for my gaming pc at first
>then i decided on the 480
>then i decided to wait for the 1060
>then i decided i might as well get the 1070
>now im eyeballing the 1080 every few hours
someone please stop me i dont want to buy the 1080 and go into debt.
>>55423745
Just do it. Really senpai its no point in waiting, waited for so long so I can be on the safe side and then the smallest thing still fucks me over. So next time i built a pc I waited, and waited, and waited. AND THE END NEVER FUCKING ENDS. Just go out and buy whatever you feel like getting.
>>55423602
Naw you'll be fine.
intelligent and play games @1080p? - 480
intelligent and play games @1440p while fully acknowledging the misfortune of having to pay nvidia tax - 1070
>>55423240
>4670k to 4690k
Man, you are stupid
4690k have better TIM (Thermal Interface Material) and clock speed is only 100MHz higher
Upgrade is waste of money
which games can a 1070 max at 1440p 144hz??
>>55423745
what resolution are you playing at? if its not 4k then dont get a 1080, if its not 1440p then dont get a 1070, if its 1080p then get a RX 480 or 1060
>>55423595
Ahahaha yes remember wat they said about the 480.
>wait for the 490
My sides...
>>55423745
Get a 1070 for 2k as it handles it well
A aib 480 for 1k and maybe 2k decently in future
The 1080 cannot into 60fps 4k so don't bother as it will be dissapoint and overkill for most 2k
>>55423816
Actually the 1080 doesnt preform that well in 4k.
Its very good in 1440
>>55422800
What about poor and play games?
GTX 950
I've just cancelled the Nitro 480 for a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X. I play at 1080 but I thought fuck it at least I will be able to play ROTR in 1080 at a constant 60FPS with every setting to max and not have it running like a leaf blower.
>>55423813
If you want 2K gaming at high framerates you are gonna have to get a 1080
1080p monitor? 480
1440p monitor? 1070
144hz monitor? 1070
literally no reason to pay more for a 1070 if your monitor isnt going to display it.
>>55425183
The 1080 can't even get over 100fps at 1440p, why would the 1070 be able to?
1080 GTX isn't enough for 4K. You get like 55 to 75 FPS in most games.
You are gonna need two of them for it.
4k gaymen is still stupid
>>55425183
They don't make 1070p monitors dipshit
RX 480 w/ overclocked i5
GTA V massively stutters and crashes, minimal settings
I'm gonna move GTA V from the SSD drive to the storage drive and re-download the files
If that doesn't work I'll go back to Nvidia, maybe get a 980ti
>>55425194
who said it could? and that depends on the game too.
>>55425194
all i need is 60 stead baby. my r9 390 is already falling behind. don't know what i expected
Question: When the fuck are any of these cards actually going to be in stock?
>>55425357
try not to be so brainwashed my dude
>>55423614
>10xx series performs well on dx12
Nice meme
>>55423212
970 is fine at 1440p
>>55425375
anything below 60 is not fine
>>55425400
That's why you forgo full-retard settings like MSAA, use post-process AA and crank some things down to high. Wow, what a disaster.
>demanding a locked 144hz in new games on monitors that generally have adaptive sync
I mean it's not my money, but it is hilarious to watch people recommend dropping a grand or more on GPUs just to vsync at 144hz lmao
>>55425235
gtav depends massively on cpu. Try upgrading your cpu first.
>>55425702
>try upgrading your overclocked i5 to play GTAV above minimum settings
>>55425196
>tfw
>4k 60fps on ultra settings with one card is still impossible to achieve
nothing new here since 201x
>>55423325
No one knows. AMD is being cryptic as fuck because they don't want a lawsuit for releasing a car that fries boards
>480 ~300 euros
>970 ~400 euros
>1070 +500 euros
My R9 285 is starting to become really underperforming not that it was exactly a powerhouse to beging with. This shit is driving me up the fucking wall.
>>55425798
get a console then
>>55422734
>comparing a 250$ card with a 450$ card
>>55423287
You'd wreck the warranty, and with AMD you never know when you might need it.
>>55423002
>480 cannot beat the 970 in the majority of games
Why do people lie on the internet?
>>55425786
I got two 1080s for 4K but that's only because I could afford it. I wouldn't do it in any other case
It's just so fucking stupid
>>55426001
Blame AMD's inability to compete in the top-end market.
>>55423270
Gamers nexus got over 1400 with the reference blower. The liquid hybrid only got them an additional 40 mhz for 1490
>>55424273
An hero
>>55423325
buy a custom one with 8-pin and you'll be fine
that's what im gonna do, unless 1060 costs like 200$
>>55422734
The point of 480 is that it's half the price but more than half the power. Buy two if you want better performance.
>>55423325
Why the fuck do you normies fall for this shit. Have you seen any posted a dead motherboard? No, except one kid who had a corroded motherboard with drops of dried up liquid all over it. If the 480 was making computers explode into massive balls of fire you would see way more stories about it. Every fucking day people ask the say fucking stupid questions. Every day on this board 970 is 3.5 and 480 is pci, never one fucking proper discussion.
>>55423270
>I don't know what I'm talking about.
>>55426441
I wish we had IDs. This 480 shitposting made me extremely suspicious of everything posted here
>>55423325
Unless you're using an lga 775 / am2 mobo, you won't have any issues, even with testing on those platforms, the worst that happens is the system crashes. No blue flames, no white smoke, no burnt contacts. It just refuses to work under load. A lot of older enthusiast boards actually have additional power connections specifically for the fact that it's completely normal for cards to overdraw the pcie slot. Especially while overclocking. FYI: boost clock is a factory overclocking profile that activates automatically given proper thermals and power.
>>55426441
The reason you don't see many dead motherboards is barely anyone bought a 480
>>55426619
BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh wait, forgot we're not on /o/.
>>55423732
Just get an fsp hydro. Server grade components, semi fanless, quiet as fuck, 90% efficiency at 50c, all solid Jap caps, and will output beyond its rating.
>>55422734
Man m ola einai akriva edw:(
>>55423225
They became "low end" because they're old gen and have been vastly surpassed by the current shit. The only old card that still has anything to say for itself is 980 Ti. RX480 is good value but I don't see why people are cumming all over themselves about 970-tier (even if slightly better) performance at 160W in 2h 2016 on 14nm FinFET.
Something is fucked with the 480 though, AMD claimed 2 or even 2.5x perf/watt improvement yet the RX480 barely matches a 28nm Fury. What the fuck happened to the 2-2.5x improvement?
>>55423240
If you can upgrade for $50 then maybe, otherwise fuck no, they're almost the same CPU. Just OC as much as you can, should get at least 4.3-4.5GHz.
Should I get a C-Class or Accord V6?
I bought the 1070 because the 480 is complete dogshit
>>55426937
>i bought this turd because this other turd didnt look appetizing
>>55426619
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/
RX480 Currently Out of stock and the stock is always replenished un-like the the 1080/70 and it's not a paper launch.
>>55426990
They're both good cards, but one costs more than twice as much as the other
>>55426990
>1070
>turd
Surely you jest
>>55426863
lol me and my wife had this discussion and we got the Accord but now we closer to a house -=)
>>55423087
Kek
>>55426863
>not a 3-series
At least you didn't mention an overpriced rebadged VW.
>>55422734
If pay your bills yourself - RX 480
If you still live with your parents - GTX 1070
Speaking of the 1070, I've run into a what the fuck is going on moment.
So I bought the MSI 8GB version.
Speccy displays 4GB, CPU ID displays 8GB, and dxdiag displays 16GB.
What the fuck do I believe?
>>55427727
believe the official released specs, it's 8gb
Have a 1440p 144hz Gsync monitor with a 780. Usually game on all ultra, but noticing that the card's starting to slack on newer games.
Do I into 1070 or 1080?
>>55427898
Yes, go for it. If you have the money. You can wait till 1060 is out, too.
>>55427923
> x or y?
> yes
:)
>>55427727
Speccy memory readings on Nvidia cards seem like they've been bugged for a while. I'm pretty sure 980 ti's keep getting read as 2 GB instead of 6.
>>55427923
A 1060 would probably not be worth it. It's rumored to perform a bit better than an RX 480, which would put it slightly above the 970 and therefore only slightly above his 780.
I have a 7970 currently but I'm tempted by the 1070. How big of an performance upgrade are we talking?
>>55427974
Double. At least.
The 480 is literally there to make VR gaming affordable. Bravo to AMD for making that a possibility
I've bought the GTX 1080, but only because I have 4k in mind and don't mind putting a few settings down to achieve 4k60fps
>>55428016
>>55427974
I actually upgraded from a 7970 to a 1070.
I went from 30-40 FPS on Low in Doom to 90-140 FPS on Ultra.
Pretty huge fuckin leap.
>>55426829
>What the fuck happened?
They lied.
>>55422821
Kek
Not a fanboy, though I do think nvidia is somewhat shady. So should I wait for nitro 480, or grab a new 980 aib for $285?
>>55428069
CPU?
>>55425798
Just crossfire it with a 380. That's what I'm running. The 285 and 380 are crossfire compatible.
1060 will blow the 480 away, have drivers, not blow up your motherboard, and cost roughly the same.
480 isn't even close to the best AMD card if you insist on AMD.
>>55423270
Wew lad.
Do you even know what a reference card is?
>>55426829
>>55428077
The efficiency claims about 2.5x perf per watt at the press conference were about the 470 being compared to a 270x if I'm not mistaken. Not that hard to believe seeing as how the 270x can suck down almost 200 W.
>>55428096
nvidia lies to your face, AMD stabs you in the back
in the end they are both corporations
>>55428108
Shitty as FX-8150.
>>55428069
Cheers I'll think about it. Just out of curiosity which model and price did you get it at?
>>55427974
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1722?vs=1715
That's a 7970 vs a 980ti, so it should be a huge upgrade.
I'm getting fucking sick of this shit, I just want a 200€ mid-card for 1080p, rx 480 is at least 260€ and no 4gb models for partner cards.
Nvidia will jew the shit out of the 1060, no chance its under 300€.
RX 470 WHEN?
>>55428096
Find a 4GB RX480 asap!
>>55423314
I personally bought a 6600k because it was one sale with a z170 motherboard for $270 four months or so ago. No Microcenter for miles and miles, so a steal for me that should last a while.
Makes the 480 look more viable to me now that I'm knowing this.
>>55428185
Nice, one might think it would bottleneck the 1070.
>>55428209
Why don't you just save 60€?
>>55423640
Used i5s are just as good, but maybe ebay isnt worht it in nazi land
400 W Load tops. Aim for something that has 400 W output at 75% efficiency like 550 W and ensure it is 80PLUS certified
>>55428185
Explains, AMD's driver overhead cripples their performance on low IPC CPUs.
>>55428154
Nah, I think AMD is mostly just incompetent. I wish they'd get their shit together.
>>55428237
Doesn't that apply only to DX11?
>>55428216
Things are rare as fuck. Why tho? I would have bought the none reference blower 970 for $199 of a blower was appealing to me at all.
Just ordered this bad boy.
Will I be able to play Witcher 3 on ultra 1080p finally in 60fps finally?
Also using a 6350 CPU btw
How long until custom versions of Rx 480?
I want my new PC already ;_;
>>55428307
whoops forgot pic
>>55428307
If you can't you will have to turn down one or two settings a bit. You should be able to though.
>>55428270
AMD did not make any 4GB, they are all 8GB, turns out its bios locked to show 4GB. You flash the bios and you get 8GB.
>>55428374
That was true with cards sent for testing, not the ones in shops.
>>55428328
sapphire is later this month, on the 20 something, was leaked a while ago
>>55428206
I got the MSI 8GB version, $430. I would of went Sapphire but it I wanted to try MSI for a change.
Doom is sitting at around 64C~ under load. So its pretty good.
>>55428374
how can people be this retarded, sure we'll sell additional hardware at no extra cost and that's fine as long as the customers don't get to enjoy it, the cost is still there and it is not covered at all because of the lower price, the fact people think this instead of >>55428374 is insane.
>>55428450
At first that sounded right but now it turns out the 4GB retail are 8's.
"We currently have an AIB partner-branded retail 4 GB Radeon RX 480 card which we bought online (invoice posted), and which we're using to prepare our 4 GB RX 480 review. We first discovered that our 4 GB retail card had the same exact Samsung 8x 8 Gb chips (including the same bin, specc'd for 8 Gbps) as the 8 GB card. We flashed this card with the 8 GB card's BIOS, and were successful in doing so."
https://www.techpowerup.com/223913/amd-retail-radeon-rx-480-4gb-to-8gb-memory-unlock-mod-works-we-benchmarked
>>55428490
Crap, I wanted to get advantage of that cashback action with Intel CPUs and Asus/Gigabyte/MSI/ASRock mobos.
>>55428237
3.37 rupees have been deposited into your account.
>>55428523
See this -> >>55428526
Also I don't know if you were around but AMD also had 3 core CPU's turns out with certain Motherboards Gigabyte was one you can unlock and get 4 cores.
See link: http://www.tomsguide.com/forum/id-2142984/amd-phenom-710-4th-core-unlock.html
"how can people be this retarded" I'm not going to call you retarded you simply just don't know any better.
>>55422800
>don't play games
VR ready card
>don't play games
1080p@60 card
>don't play games
let me guess, unless you have an i7k cpu you cant even open fecesbook
fucking kikes
>>55423270
>I can't change the gpu cooler on my reference card because muhh warranty
Ayyy ladies and gentlemen nu-/g/
Help me anons
>i5/i7 + 970
or
>i7 + 1070
for 1080p, 60Hz?? i7 because I may want to stream
>>55430159
1070 of course, and just use ShadowPlay.
>>55430174
How is it compared to OBS?
Also if I use Shadowplay do I still need i7?
>>55422734
I just installed my reference RX 480 today. Not even shitting you, it hit 70 C while browsing 4chan, doing nothing else on default settings. Latest drivers, too. Idles above 50 C. Other than that it's great
>>55430202
Shadowplay is dogshit. It changes your twitch stream name to shill for nvidia.
>>55422734
The 480 is a 6 year old card, OP
>>55430223
Think your card may be defective friend.
>>55430254
>163 Bytes
>>55430261
I'm honestly starting to wonder. I made the fan curve a little more aggressive and now it's at 50 C. As soon as I'm done installing a game I'm gonna try it out and see if it cooks itself.
The card came with the metal exhaust plate part (at back of PC) bent such that it wouldn't fit into the case, had to bend it flat with pliers. I expected better from Sapphire, this is my first AMD card.
AIB 480. $260, plays everything in 1080p fine, and decent enough for 1440p (but won't max everything there).
1070 and 1080 are retarded overpriced. They are not worth buying, unless you think it is normal to buy a $380 card for $500. Once you can buy them for their MSRP, they'll be worth getting.
>>55430301
I know, right
>>55430307
Yeah, in all honesty, send it back. I know it was probably hell to get but it sounds like you'd be better off returning and trying to get a new one.
>>55423194
>the card literally stomps 970
>4% average gain
HOW CAN NVIDIOTS EVEN COMPETE
>>55423221
>its like a $100 difference jesus christ
The 1070 is bare minimum $200 more expensive than a 480. But with availability being what it is, and with 4gb 480s shipping with 8gb actual memory, the difference can go up to $300.
>>55430366
>4gb 480s shipping with 8gb actual memory
Why does AMD keep doing this shit? They're just undercutting them selves.
Reminds me of the Phenom X3 days.
Or perhaps the 6950.
And if I remember things, you could enable shaders with the non-X Fury.
>>55422734
It's simple. Do you have a freesync or gsync monitor? That should be your answer.
The 8 pin makes no difference on powerdraw for overclocking. The 2 extra pins are to do with better grounding stability. If you can't get over 1400 on 6 pins you won't get over 1400 on 8.
>>55430442
>Why does AMD keep doing this shit? They're just undercutting them selves.
They either had a better deal on the 8gb chips, or demand was higher on the 4gb version than expected. Or they made too many 8gb ones.
The Phenom X3, Fury, 6950, and Radeon 9500 were all different - those were binned chips, but yields were so good that the binned chips were full version anyway. I'm still rocking a 6950 unlocked to 6970.
>>55428307
R9 390 owner here. The short answer is.
No.
The long answer is.
No. Not without sacrificing a lot.
I cancelled my Nitro 480 and have ordered the 1070 to be absolutely fucking sure that I get 60 FPS minimum on max settings. I got pissed off with playing Rise of the Tomb Raider and having to turn stuff down to avoid stutter.
>>55422734
1060 NDA ends in like three days.
>>55430499
>The 8 pin makes no difference on powerdraw for overclocking. The 2 extra pins are to do with better grounding stability. If you can't get over 1400 on 6 pins you won't get over 1400 on 8.
The 2 extra pins allow the card to suck up max 225W instead of max 150W. Which makes a world of a difference: overclocked hardware uses way more power due to higher clocks and perhaps higher voltage.
>>55430548
>R9 390 owner here.
>I cancelled my Nitro 480 and have ordered the 1070
Yeah, you are either a paid NVidia shill or a complete retard. Everybody knew that the 480 would be equal to a 390, just at a way lower price point. This was known ever since the first damn 3dmark performance leaks.
>>55430548
You bought a 480 but you got 1070 money, you play a GameWorks game and got mad at the card not the developers for using GameWorks....Man STFU with your fake shit.
Is it possible to convince me of not getting the EVGA 1080 FTW? It sits at the highest affordable price range for me while providing some real nice power. Also everyone keeps talking about how good it is.
Is there anything better I should get? I'm jumping from the EVGA 970 FTW, though I have no real bias believe it or not.
>>55425375
270x @ 1440p reporting in.
>>55430740
Forgot to mention I'm all about 1080p/144hz, as well as the real question is: Is there any better choice I could be making?
>>55424273
980ti on sale for like, <$400
>>55424273
970
>>55430499
This issue with the RX 480 isn't the amount of pins on the connector. The 6 pin can provide more power than a 480 would ever need. The issue is load balancing and power delivery.
>>55423110
not him but that's not bragworthy when it's barely at most a 5 fps difference
>be from A FUCKING LEAF
>pay nearly $100 (CAD) more for the same card by the same brand in the same configuration even when taking USD - CAD dollar values into consideration
so which cards can actually into async since it seems important?
Is there any reason to by the EVGA 1070 over the MSI 1070? The MSI one is actually in stock, it's just 10 dollars more
>>55430548
isn't it kind of dumb to put "max settings" on a pedestal? many games have settings which offer no or barely noticeable visual improvement or gimmicks at a huge performance cost. isn't hairworks in tomb raider basically that? and what does max settings even mean? max in-game? or am I allowed to try and force higher settings through drivers?
>>55432860
step-up program but that's about it
>>55433025
One more thing, if my PC is really good (1070, i7-6700k 6 cores), is overclocking redundant?
>>55433093
pretty much
even a 1ghz OC will only give minor gains of at most 5fps
unless you emulate a lot -- emulation is inherently cpu intensive
>plan on buying a GTX 970 for my mid tier build
>"Fuck that, just get a 960 anon le 3.5 maymay"
>"No just get a 980, faggot"
>"Just wait for the AMC 480"
>"DON'T LISTEN TO THAT LOSER GET A 1060 WHEN IT COMES OUT"
>"WAIT FOR THE RX490 IT WILL BLOW NVIDYA OUT OF THE WATER"
>"WHAT ARE YOU, POOR? GET THE 1080"
God fucking damnit I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO GET ANYMORE
FUCK YOU GEE
>>55422734
kaneis den phre 480 me ton tsipra.
200$ = 300€
>>55433291
Well whats your budget? Thats all that truly matters.
>>55433291
get a 1080ti, don't make the same mistake as I did
>>55433291
don't buy a 970
>>55433516
objectively false
>>55433531
>3.5gb meme when equivalent cards don't have that problem
>>55433559
there is no equivalent card
>>55423182
>xfx 7970
You dun goofed
>>55423194
Non overclocked 970. Well memed
How about the RX460 and RX470 when will they be released?
I have a 660ti.. I'm only going to be doing 1080 gaming. Seems like according to the benchmarks that the 480 will be fine. But I'm waiting for AIB cards because hopefully having more power pins on the nitro (8) will solve the PCI slot power draw issue. I also don't want a 4gb card or a 6 gb card, for slight future proofing. Picking up an 8gb version.
>>55433401
What mistake was that?
>>55422734
> Not mentioning option #3
>>55422734
they are in completely different price brackets.
do you have $200-300?
480
do you have 350-450?
1070
>>55424273
Used 980ti
>>55433806
>do you have $200-300?
>480
>not 970
>>55433819
do 970s still go for retarded prices used/new?
my friend was looking at them last week or two weeks ago and they where still like $300 new, and like $250 used for some crazy reason
