computers have rights too
>>55416032
I stick my dick in it before overclocking it for the night
>>55416032
sounds strange but yeah
>>55416032
I am real desu~ ;w;
>what's hibernation
I will be sleeping, might as well turn it off, saves some electricity u know.
No. I put it on a really abusive 12 hour stress test
>>55416032
>so it can rest
I'm not a gaymer manchild, shutting down PC is pointless
>>55416032
I do.
in fact I should do it right now, it's 2:24 AM here.
>>55416080
enjoy your parts shitting the bed earlier
No, i also let my car idle in the garage overnight
>>55416080
>I'm not a gaymer manchild
What does that have to do with anything?
>>55416106
that means his hardware is meant for 24/7 usage.
>>55416142
Like a server or..? For normal usage, a computer doesn't have to be on 24/7. Just when people are using it. Be it a gamer or an Excel maniac.
>>55416071
I doubt it matters for a lot of people here, they're not the ones paying the electricity bill.
I turn it off because I pay my own bills
>>55416032
Considering it takes like few seconds to turn back on, yes
>>55416032
Since I've downgraded to Win10, my PC reboot or rest by himself.
>>55416216
I do too, my PC is on 24/7, though I hardly turn on any lights or appliances besides it.
>>55416032
Are you affectionate with your PC? Computers have needs too.
>>55416080
Says the guy who clearly doesn't pay the electric bill
>>55416032
No, and my laptops uptime is 95 days. And I have sleep/hibernate disabled
>>55416032
sauce?
>>55416032
My PC/Keyboard/Mic all have bright blue LEDs that i have to shut off or I cant sleep at night, so yeah.
>turning your PC off
>when you could be mining ether
I thought you guys were better then this.
>>55416080
>I'm not a boyracer manchild, shutting down a cars engine is pointless
This is what you sound like
>>55416384
That's not really a fair comparison.
I put my waifu to sleep when I go to sleep.
>>55416032
sauce?
>>55416059
>25gb hiberfil
Lol this retard has an hdd as his boot drive.
I respect my machine spirit brothers with the respect they deserve.
Even changing parts or cleaning is a solemn process. They are my main companions in this world, so I give them all the dignity they deserve.
My machines have names, I refer to them as such and don't treat them as objects.
>>55416209
>>55416216
>>55416248
The average price people in the U.S. pay for electricity is about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour
A computer typically averages between 60W-160W at idle, so lets go on the high end and use 150W for our example.
Thats $0.43 per day, or $13.15 per months, to leave your computer on 24/7.
I pay my own bills too. Ive just decided that its worth the price to keep my computer on 24/7.
I wouldnt want it off at night, since I use it to watch YouTube or movies as I go to bed. I also often use IRC, which long delays between replies means I will stay logged on in rooms for days to be able to not miss anything. Some times at night or before I go to work I will start large downloads.
It is also questionable to claim your PC will last longer if you turn it off often. Lots of cool down and warm-up cycles can actually shorten components life.
>>55416421
Sure it is.
You turn your car on while using other troubleshooting it
Petroleum creates and uses energy that you pay for
Computer uses energy that you pay for
>>55416462
never wake up
>>55416032
>turning your computer off
Unless your electric bill is off the roof, then why would you even need to turn it off?
>>55416512
>Lots of cool down and warm-up cycles can actually shorten components life.
That happens anyway, with most cooling solutions.
>>55416097
Just in case you feel like offing yourself?
>>55416526
A computer is engineered to run constantly, it has functions that benefit from not being cutoff all the time, a car is a one-off machine. Plus a computer's energy consumption is far, far lower than a car's.
>>55416512
Heatup and cooldown cycles are common even when you're using your computer. If you're not a gamer and put lots of stress on your computer you wont have this but its already a thing with gamers so shutting down your computer and starting back up is no different than starting up and closing a system-heavy game.
Why would I turn it off? I put it in sleep mode like a sensible person. I don't kill myself every night and then resurrect myself in the morning so why would I do that to my computer?
>>55416636
But sleep is essentially temporary death. Let your computer live free and fly away like a Sega Saturn.
>>55416032
I work as a sys admin (Solaris and RHEL) and have not personally run Windows since about 2002 (though I do have a work issued windows laptop that's just a glorified mailbox).
Any issues with running Windows 10 24/7?
Building out a media center/steam box for my nephew and his family.
>>55416343
This is the first time I've seen any reference to Ethereum on /g/.
I turn it off or let it go to sleep to not waste power. Not like it doesn't do anything useful when on anyway.
>>55416675
>Let your computer live free and fly away like a Sega Saturn.
I'm not sure what this analogy is supposed to mean.
I record art streams at night so all the rest it gets are restarts
>>55416635
>>55416512
>If you're not a gamer and put lots of stress on your computer you wont have this
Even then, you have this. Just open a browser, there you go. Or some heavy duty "industrial standard" software. CAD. Photomanipulation. Geospatial analysis. Whatever.
And there is a lot of smaller software that polls all the time.
>>55416596
Room temperature is about 70F / 21C
A CPU generally idles about 40C
So the difference is greater when you fully shutdown the computer
>>55416819
Doesn't matter. Shutdown happens only once, whereas idling happens every minute or so.
If the difference was more than 50C I'd be concerned, but 19C is negligible.
>>55416032
No, but I reboot.
if is to clean, yes.
Ssd boot times make this a non issue. I wake up, press the power button, stretch for 15 seconds, and boom.
At night, shut down, turn off monitor, walk away.
Why wouldnt i do this? Unless im downloading something massive overnight?
>>55416687
Yeah, it will eventually want to update and force restart itself.
>>55416933
My nigga
>>55416884
>idling happens every minute or so
wut
I think you have a virus bro
>>55416476
The Animatrix, segment "The Second Renaissance, Part I"
>>55416074
>No. I put it on a really abusive 12 hour stress test
kek
>>55416950
Well, yeah. Aside from update/patching reboots, I mean.
I guess I'm asking if windows still has really bad memory leaks anymore?
>>55416032
>what is suspend to RAM
>>55416094
>he's never seen computers running 24/7
is this neo /g/?
>>55416032
No.
I do it because electricity is not free.
>>55416675
bro, you tryna fly away?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pdNRKPrFMg
>>55416512
Every little household item adds up friend
Having surge protectors on everything with the kill switch saves me $150 a month in electricity, have confirmed with seeing the bill much much cheaper and a kill a watt meter
>>55416988
No, you have that too.
Not full burst, of course, so that doesn't necessarily trigger the fans to change their rpm.
>>55416535
So mean.
>>55417152
Holy shit. If you're saving $150 a month, your bill must have been astronomical before. My bill is generally less than 30 freedom buxx. I live in Texas though, so power is cheap; my provider is sourced entirely from wind, and I'm paying 6.3 cents/kWh.
>>55416512
I live by Immanuel Kants morality rules as much as I can.
There are about 300 million computers in use in the US according to a short googling. Assuming half of those are servers that must be kept on. That still leaves us about 150 million PCs.
If keeping your computer on at night was a universal rule, that would mean 150000000*10$= 1,5 billion $ wasted on electricity just in the USA, monthly. Since there are more computers in the whole world, the enviromental impact is tremendous too.
>>55417154
I have a temperature monitor on my desktop; my temperature does not vary by more than 1 or 2 degrees when idling. My computer does not erratically change fan speed. I dont know what kind of ghetto setup youre running
>>55417301
Good man. No need to be wasteful just because you're (relatively) wealthy. Every penny, and more importantly every kilowatt-hour, is important.
>>55417316
>my temperature does not vary by more than 1 or 2 degrees when idling. My computer does not erratically change fan speed.
That's what I'm talking about, you won't notice, but it's enough to break the material over years.
>>55416032
Windows 8 yes. Windows 7 locked but no shut. Windows 10 had to put down.
>>55416032
Power-cycling your computer 300+ times a year is a bad idea.
>>55416032
I hibernate it
I have an ssd, so shutting down isn't a big deal but I do it because I am lazy fuck and I just like leaving everything open
do any of you happen to pay for elecricity
i unplug mine because i have a chinkshit PSU
dont want it to say, storm one night and have my PSU explode when the power surges
>>55417349
It's really not. What happens when you power cycle a PC exactly? The capacitors discharge, and everything cools down to ambient temp if it wasn't already running at ambient. Those caps are discharging during normal operation anyway. During startup, those same caps charge and a few dozen inductors energize. Otherwise, everything is transistor logic, which is much more susceptible to high temperatures than to temperature changes.
>>55417301
Are you a vegetarian?
>>55417415
I gave it a thought a while ago. I definitely would be if it wasnt so inconvinient.
>>55416032
Yes, idle temps for the GPU are in the 60's so I don't see a need to make even more heat.
>>55417438
>I definitely would be if it wasnt so inconvinient.
Well I am vegetarian, and I find it very inconvenient to poweroff my computer
>>55417450
My GTX960 idles at 26C
>>55416462
You don't need them.
Life is more fun when you're the one in control.
>>55417381
haha no. especially not me
kinda shocked that the majority lets their shit run 24/7.
the possibility of a PSU fire ALONE is reason enough for me to turn it off before I go to sleep or out of house.
the fuck is wrong with 30 seconds of booting? fucking lazy lard asses
>>55417532
That's 30 seconds of shitposting WASTED though.
>>55417492
Well its an r9 390 so I'm not surprised
and mini-itx so its choking
>>55417381
yes. a computer idling 24/7 costs about $10 a month in electricity. If youre like me, and you use your computer for say, 6+ hours a day, youre already spending money on that. So youre really only spending an extra $7 a month or so.
I consciously spend that extra $7 a month for the convenience of always having my computer on. considering I make $7 in about 20 minutes worth of work, I find this to be well worth it
>>55417573
It's not about how much money it's worth to you. It's about how wasteful it is. If everyone does that, we generate so much useless electric power.
Solar, wind, hydro, nuclear. Those are steps in the right direction, but the best short term solution to our energy problems is to quit wasting so much electricity. Turn your lights off, turn up the thermostat, and turn off your appliances when you're not using them. Is that so hard?
>>55417532
Not only does my desktop run 24/7, but so does my file server, and so does my laptop
If anything, I need to start powering off my stereo and monitors before I go to work. I am planning on using a separate power strip for my monitors and stereo, and putting it in a convenient location, so I have one button I can press to power off all those items I admittedly have no need to keep on.
>>55416032
I do turn my computer off at night, although more for security / paranoid reasons rather than component stress / electricity bills.
>tfw living in government dorms
>tfw I can leave my main rig on, my server, my pfsense box, a second server, and a nas on 24/7
>tfw I keep the a/c at 68 and have 2 small heaters for my feet since it gets so cold
>tfw I don't have to pay for electricity and I get to use as much as I want
Thinking of buying a third second hand server just for shits and giggles. These old innefficient xeons that suck power relentlessly that no one wants work perfect for me. It's so comfy.
>>55417644
I don't, but then my house generates it's own sustainable power.
Why be a plebeian?
>>55417598
I am not oblivious to this fact, I just find it highly inconvenient. I run all LED light bulbs in my apartment. They each consume only about 6W, compared to about 18W for a CCFL bulb. I have a 4 cylinder car, which I accelerate slowly and cruise at fuel efficient speeds.
But the BIOS in my computer takes way too long to load. I do not like waiting for the computer to startup. Maybe someday when I get a computer with a BIOS that takes a couple seconds to load, I will start powering it off.
There's literally zero (0) reason for me to keep the computer on at night and since I'm not a fat americuck like you guys I can actually go and turn off my power strip.
>not devoting your computers down time to help SETI find space aliens, or help find a cure for cancer
Its like you want humanity to suffer
>>55417729
But I do.
>>55417729
you mean we need a second wall?
>receiver & poweramp > pc, kWh
you forgot to mention to turn it off when you go to work OP.. you g-go to w-work r-r-right?
>>55417476
I bet you'll also find it inconvenient when our environment gets fucked up and we have to wear gas masks everywhere like the chinks do...
>>55416933
Underrated post.
>>55416512
>not just setting up a znc server for $5 a month
>>55417749
Gotta keep those Canadian """refugees""" out somehow.
>>55416342
Well that's what you get for being a faggot.
>>55417888
>not spending $5 a month to avoid spending $7 a month
Thats a real great story broski
>>55416342
Blue LEDs are cancer. I wish I could pour boiling oil down the buttcrack of whoever invented the damn things.
>>55416462
why put a toilet to sleep
>>55416032
Every night my computer goes to sleep so it will be refreshed and ready to go once I'm ready to use it again!
:3
>>55417952
pretty sure *that* wall is to keep americans out of canada
>>55417952
>mfw i will never know what it's like to get jewed by Blue Cross.
>>55418035
>*that* wall is to give us an excuse to load Bern victims into trebuchets
>>55416032
If i'm not downloading anything, yeah, some times it goes on for several days though.
>>55416032
Haven't turned mine off for over 6 years
I run prime95 and furmark on my 30-50% OC 24/7
>>55416054
mein neger
When I build a computer my part of my autism is to buy the lowest watt stuff that does what I need. Keeps heat at a minimum too.
My computer idles at basically nothing so I don't bother to turn it off.
>>55416032
Flashing power light kind of kills that idea. Guess I could slap some elec. tape on it, but eugh.
>>55416032
No you baka, I keep my computer on so it can relax and dream too. Turning it off is basically the equivalent of temporarily killing it.
Keeping it and its drives on is also better for the computer's health
>>55416675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoYyztfOc-0
>>55418023
Where does that $7 come from? In the original comment it was $13.
>>55418418
That was assuming it did nothing but idle for a whole month, going unused. But you actually use the computer, and at higher loads. So youd be spending, say, $6 anyway to actually use the computer. So youre not wasting the whole $13, youre only wasting $7, for example
>>55418698
>actually using your computer
Get a load of this guy.
What is windows doing when it's just sitting there for hours on end? Windows 10 sometimes does "maintenance" what does that mean huh? Is it lifting virtual weights to get ripped for my return to try impress me?
>>55416094
i rarely shut down my pcs and ive retired them before ive ever had any hardware failures
and i even reuse certain pieces of hardware
pretty much the only shut down they ever get is if im leaving home for a few days or so or needing to reboot or clean dust out
>>55416032
>a heap of copper, aluminum, silicon and gold
>rights
>>55419012
>a heap of meat
>rights
>>55416512
>$13.15 per month is nothing
God fucking damnit is throwing out money an american sport or something? We were upset as fuck in our house when our monthly bill jumped from 70€ to 85.
>>55420495
That was rounding idle wattage all the way up, and not subtracting the cost of actually using the computer. Realistic cost could be less than $5 a month easily.
No, sometimes it wants to watch the telly
Of course, why would anyone keep it on and waste electricity?
>>55421269
In case it wants to watch the telly or play a video game while I'm in bed
>>55416512
Here in Europe we pay less when it's night, and I'm mostly a nightly person.
>>55416216
Most underrated post
>>55416675
"I don't sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death"
>>55416032
Mine goes to sleep after being idle for an hour
>>55416032
It's in sleep mode, sleep mode is the only mode you need if you have an UPS.
Off? Why would anyone constantly power cycle their system every fucking day? I might turn mine off once a month max and always turn my TV and monitors off because of the summer heat.
>>55422415
It may also be 2 hours if i leave it to do something while i myself sleep
>>55416323
The animatrix - the second revolution
>>55416032
>the matrix
>>55416193
>hurr enterprise parts are not for customers!
yup, dumb manchild detected
>>55416884
My CPU never goes over 30C when I'm browsing, listening to music or watching a movie, what I'm doing 99% of the time with my computer.
While my room temp is between 20-25C at summer.
>>55417532
>PSU fire
What, are you using some chinese knockoff PSU?
>>55416342
who are you in chat? SoDoge
>>55422553
he said possibility, not certainty
>>55416094
Is this even true? Some parts suffer more from heat cycles than heat itself.
>>55416342
who are u in chat.
>>55422541
Speccy doesn't detect my APU temps correctly, but i can tell from the fan activity what temps it has. Fan is quiet even though the room temp is above 25C.
Foobar2000 is using 15% by playing MIDI files from archives.
>>55416032
if I have loads of tabs open and haven't finished looking through them and torrents downloading then it stays on.
My computer crunches BOINC or mines cryptocurrencies at 100% CPU usage 24/7 usually apart from when I'm using it for gaming. And its overclocked. I even let the GPU crunch every so often so NO REST
>>55416032
Some night, makes sense
>>55416080
you forgot to also point out that you are a vegan
>>55416094
they actually last longer
I do turn off my PC when not needed. I also turn off my DSL Router when I'm out for a day or more.
There's no need to have something doing nothing and consuming electricity.
It's just common sense but hey - everyone else's call.
I just put my PC to sleep. I live in Hawaii and my electricity bill is usually $300 a month but I run one A/C near constantly and one in my bedroom for at least 8 hours a night. I doubt shutting it down vs putting it to sleep will make much of a difference.
>>55416032
literally who does not? Especially people with SSD, it's like what 7 secs?
>>55416384
>car engines are the same as a computers
>>55424081
Yeah I really don't understand why waste the energy for no reason. Unless you are actually using the cycles for something.
>>55417532
Did you know PSU's average lifetime is reduced significantly for every time you turn them on and off instead of constant use?
>>55424138
I feel like this is an old wives tale passed on through the nerd grapevine. "Significant" is probably closer to "negligible".
>>55416032
No. Enjoy your expedited hardware failure due to continual heat cycling fucking up your solder joints.
>>55416032
I turn my computer off every night so I can rest.
>>55424211
Likely hyperbole based on anecdotal evidence OR the effect is over such a timescale that it has no practical effect (how many years does someone use the same PSU for anyway?) OR the cost of electricity offsets the replacement part.
Superstitious nerds all over this thread imo.
>>55416032
Yes, to keep my room cool at night.
>>55424324
>>55424267
Putting your computer to sleep would achieve the same thing.
>>55420495
>throwing money out
I usually just let torrents seed or something, it's not uselessly running
>>55418030
EPIC
He posted it again!
No, I turn it off so I don't die in a house fire in my sleep.
I just moved important crons to my VPS so yeah. I turn my desktop off for night to save electricity
>>55424165
It's not it's a basic property of metals the more you heat and cool something the more breakable it becomes.
The same thing happens to the metals in the chips and copper in the PCB.
It's better to always keep it at the same temperature and state then alternating it daily.
You can always save power but it's meh.
Of course with running your PC 24/7 there are certain issues that may show up faster such has HDD Fail (it's expected most hard drives fail after constant use after 3-4 years anyways) otherwise if you have a decent Surge Protecting Strip+UPS+PSU you should be fine though.
>>55424627
What about putting it to sleep?"
>>55424324
that's not how it works
I'm a little autistic when it comes to saving power. I turn my PC off and my server off and I only charge my phone at work. I also turn my modem and router off. I also shut the breaker for my kitchen and turn off all climate control when I'm not home/using them (I don't use a fridge because I buy my groceries the day I need them on my way home. The only downside is that I can only use battery-operated clocks, the clock on my oven is always wrong because it's only connected to electricity for a few minutes a day, if that). My electricity bill is usually around 10-15$ a month. I literally leave nothing on. I turn the modem and router on when I get back home. I also don't really use lights, especially during the summer, because I go to bed early because I leave for work at 4 AM.
it's pretty comfy.
>>55422699
>When you are the third d.gg shitter on /g/
The autism carries over SWEATSTINY
>>55424645
Sleep doesn't power down the PSU , but it sets the CPU to a low power state and kills most PCI lanes except the ones that are necessary to maintain the PC running.
However it still cools down the PC significantly.
(Assuming we're talking about desktops, laptops are a whole different thing).
It might keep the PSU running but it still takes a toll on the other components.
>>55416032
yeah, i dont see why not to turn it off. my family doesnt appreciate steam eating the connection overnight, and i want my shit to last as long as possible. would you leave your car running all night?
>>55424662
>Powering down everything.
If I diden't have Sewage pumps and wasn't sharing the network with +15 people I'd do that ('Scept on the fridge and clock parts I need those to function!).
And my server doubles has the router/seedbox/WoL/H@Home/whatever other shit I have running there/PSX Boot Server.
>>55424693
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>>55424627
>It's not it's a basic property of metals the more you heat and cool something the more breakable it becomes.
>The same thing happens to the metals in the chips and copper in the PCB.
I'm not arguing that, I just don't think that daily power cycles will have any significant effect on the lifespan of consumer parts beyond regular variances.
>>55424738
> doing my bait
Fuck off EDiot.
>>55416032
i have my computer set to enter sleep mode after 2 hours. just enough time to finish any downloads/installations.
>>55424794
It's going to incur more wear and tear but you're right thats already accounted in the PSU's lifetime information( PSU manufacturers have to give an accurate average of how many hours it can survive powered on).
You can either Spare the PSU or Spare the Components, but I do have an example of degradation specially if you're using SD Cards or any flash memory type in your machine Power Cycles fuck these things like there was no tomorrow.
>>55424852
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>>55416032
I'M REAL
>>55416032
That scene traumatized me to this day.
>>55425012
Nice ED copypasta fucklord
>>55424832
>>55425099
you probably have ED you sick cuck
>>55425012
HI there!
It seems your copy pasting your post.
Remember this board disregards all similar post's as same-fagging and disregards them.
I'd suggest you to try some more original written content to get more attention.
No need to thank me , just respect the board culture.
You twit.
>>55425166
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>>55424738
>>55425012
Im gunna start tripping just for you. Cry harder faggot.
>>55416032
>>55425208
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>>55422721
It's possible you get run over by car, so why don't just stay home 24/7
>>55416730
source?
>>55424502
Aaahh, you're Korean right?
>>55416476
Animatrix
>>55422524
I have no idea what you're on about. What I was saying is that most people don't NEED to have the computer on 24/7. Like, there's no reason to have it on, unless they're sitting in front of it and actually using it. No one is accessing it remotely during that time and people rarely have data syncs etc scheduled. So for most people, it makes sense to turn the computer off during the night/whenever they're not using it.
I'm sure your point is valid too, whatever it was.
Yes, i don't want die burning in my sleep
>>55416032
yeah but only during summer because its fucking hot as shit right now
Hey guys I'm a regular /g/ member and I'd like to say YEE boi .
>>55425711
It's not porn, fampai
I unplug mine to protect it from hackers
Wait, computers turn off?
Honestly though it's better to not keep turning it on and off since the heat expansion of the metals damages the parts over time.
>>55425711
Looks like Tsugumomo. But I could be wrong
>>55416032
1) lower electricity bill
2) hdd encryption keys will not be in memory if I get swated in the morning
>>55426315
chances are your graphics card will be obsolete before it breaks in such a manner.
While it does happen, all the reports I've read about are already old graphics cards in the first place.
anyways, its summer right now so I turn if off when its not in use.
Computers do not have rights. They are not alive.
>>55416596
This was actually true in 1998.
Nowadays, of course, it's not as big an issue, and nobody wants a 20 yr old computer.
>>55416342
chat name nao fgt
>>55416032
I didn't used to, no. Then I figured out how electricity works and how much it costs per kWh.
>>55426534
For the smaller process nodes I'd say it's a bigger problem.
I have my computer where I sleep and I hate the noise, so yeah, I gladly turn it off.
>>55416032
I'M REAL
>>55416627
>what's a generator, bob?
Fun fact
In very cold places they never shut off diesel engines, exactly because having to start them again outweighs the minuscule amount of fuel used
>>55417774
Being vegetarian is about 1000000000000000000000000000000 times more helpful to the environment than saving $10 on your electricity bill every month you babbling idiot.
>>55425213
>there are people actively working towards the singularity RIGHT now
should be illegal tbqh
>>55424267
>>55424353
not with the power light shining like a beacon in the night even when in sleep mode.
>>55416094
The jolt of electricity actually wears it out quicker.
Low power mode/parts and leaving it on is better for the wallet and stability.
>>55426891
Shame being a vegetarian turns you into a moron, and morons are bad for the environment.
If you want to save the environment, kill yourself and take as many people with you as possible.
Or if you don't feel like murder, mass murder some cattle. Travel to the amazon and murder all of McDonald's cattle.
>>55424081
BIOS takes up most of the time
>>55416032
What fucking show/movie is this from? So familiar.
>>55424439
This desu
>>55428445
ZA WARUDO
animatrix
>>55428601
thanks anon
>>55416032
I fall asleep to YouTube nowadays, but it's my laptop that runs at night not my main PC.
>>55416032
No, last time I turned it off it got upset because it couldn't wake up. I offered to leave the server on but it said it was boring and the graphics weren't very good.
I leave it on because I'm a believer in power cycles being more detrimental to components than constant use. I fully shut down overnight once every 1-2 weeks because I assume operating systems benefit from a complete reboot every now and then.
>>55426891
No its not faggot.
There are other animals that eat meat, eating meat is nothing unnatural.
There arent however, other animals that leave their electronic devices on at night.
>>55416032
My computer is trans.
>>55416097
>>55416384
Nice straw man you two have got there
what? You can turn it off? LIAR!
>>55416032
Yes because after some time electrons would decelerate inside circuit. You need to leave PC off for several hours to allow them regain their power and continue to run and deliver information.
>>55416032
no, only during gaming sessions it gets a bit less stress
>>55421294
That's so cute anon
To stay on topic, I do it to reduce wear. Not only thermal wear, but thing is, your computer pulls in a lot of power during the first second or so of startup, and that's pretty detrimental. Also, there's mechanical wear on HDDs or other moving parts too. Plus, fan/HDD noise is comfy as fuck and helps me sleep. Total silence is just spooky.
>>55430791
Oh, also, I have k10stat set up so that my CPU downclocks to 200MHz/0.7V when it's idling. Helps reduce heat, PSU wear and power usage.
>>55416032
Nah, it was meant to work.
Mine has insomnia. It will never shut down. Ive gone through the bios and power options but it still turns on after I turn it off
>>55430934
I had a T5400 that did that. The second it turned off it was back on.
i'm scared of the dark and like the monitor on
>>55416032
I turn it off every night before i go to bed but i don't think it has anything to do with resting, its just something i kind of did almost without thinking about it.
>>55429703
You are just plain wrong. Factory farming is hugely detrimental to the environment. It is not efficient to feed an animal for several years to eat it, when you could have just consumed the grain/plants in the first place
Factory farming, really farming at all, is unnatural.
>>55416032
Yes, I unplug at the wall too. Because lightning.
>>55416512
>large downlaods
>leaves computer on at night to download gay porn.
>>55430791
>pulls in a lot of power during the first second or so of startup, and that's pretty detrimental
20 years ago sure, now? nah.
Don't tread on me bro.
>>55416512
>It is also questionable to claim your PC will last longer if you turn it off often
components have a lifespan, and while it is on they are approaching it. most components are rated for hundreds of thousands of hours, but you'll also have to clean out the dust inside more often if you leave it on 24/7
the first thing to go will probably be the caps in the power supply or on the mobo or gpu. but it will take years.
>>55424627
>Of course with running your PC 24/7 there are certain issues that may show up faster such has HDD Fail
Start cycles are more harmful to harddrives than continuous use.
>>55416032
I keep my server running nearly 24/7 on a 1500W pure sine wave UPS. I'm merely exposing it to conditions it was meant to be exposed to.
>>55416342
I disconnect, or put electrical tape over all LEDs
Pitch black sleeping quarters or nothing
>>55417301
Part of the usage cost, I'd say. Do I wipe on every bit of a tissue paper to make sure it's all used up before throwing it away? Humans have to be able to conveniently use their tools.
>>55431106
>farming is unnatural
How the fuck do you think we got here. Even for you vegans everything is farmed.
What is the source of OP's image Google doesn't reverse the image, thanks.
>>55433135
>How the fuck do you think we got here
hunting and gathering you fucking retard
>>55433161
read the thread idiot
>>55416032
Fuck no! I don't want the stupid bastard to get spoilt.
>>55433179
Okay? And then we moved to what? Fucking braindead.
isnt the life of an electronic how often it's turned off and on?
also in the same topic I have it so my pc goes to "sleep" after 30mins if unused, is that using up the lifetime of turn-ons?
>>55425676
>why don't just stay home 24/7
I do.
