Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?
Seriously
>use windows
everything works
>use osx
everything works
>use linux
nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
Not to mention all the best software is on both windows and osx.
But I think I get it, you are all fat neets that can waste time playing programmer with your distros, but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
What's your excuse?
>>55292498
My ThinkPad T420 came with a mega Lenovo botnet version of Windows 7, so I'm using Linux while I save up for a non-shit Windows 7 installation.
>>55292498
I have never even heard of a lab anywhere with a single windows install. Windows is for casual shit like facebook and gaming. Linux is productivity software.
>>55292498
Linux is fun ^_^
>>55292498
I've thrown it on laptops for old people since they ruin Windows, shits pretty easy if you aren't brain dead
>>55292498
>but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
yes yes I'm sure RHEL is just a billion dollar corporation riding off of the backs of fat neets
I like how all you tards have conned onto the fact that osx is not mutually exclusive with a lot of what you'd want to do on linux servers so you can shoehorn in your windows propaganda and relegate any issues of windows being shit for server administration or various programming setups to >but muh osx, very clever, now go fuck off and kill another board
Fedoracore24
>>55292524
Are blank dvds that expensive where you love?
i use it because i'm a hobbyist, OP
I use Linux for work, mostly.
Windows doesn't have the tool set to be as efficient at software development.
Mac is just an over priced Facebook machine, can't effectively run Virtual Machines or Containers.
Literally never had an issue with my Debian install, on any of my devices. Never once have I had to actually looked up documentation, same goes for Ubuntu and Mint.
And for home, I do duel boot windows and Linux, because the lack of customization in Windows makes me claustrophobic but at the same time I need it for steam.
>>55292498
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>55292539
>Linux is productivity software.
yeah...after you fix all the problems lol
>>55292524
Just activate it with the key on the sticker under your laptop. That's why it's there.
>>55292498
>use Windows
>everything works because it came with the machine
>use OSX
>everything works because it came with the machine
>use Linux
>everything works if it came with the machine
and even when it didn't, I've been able to install Xubuntu just fine on damn near everything, with the one issue being Broadcom wifi, haven't bothered with spending hours configuring shit to work, just the usual going about and installing whatever software I need
shit, most Linux distros have been much more user-friendly than just about any commercial Unix offering I've ever seen (well, there's OS X, which only properly works on Apple hardware, and you're in even less supported territory than most Linux distros if you install it elsewhere)
>>55292524
Superfish does not affect Thinkpads, and certainly not the T420, which just comes with Win7 Pro and some lenovo drivers. You can choose not to use those drivers if you're an idiot.
OP: Linux _is_ for hobbyists and the ultra paranoid. There's nothing at all wrong with using OSX or Windows.
>>55292539
Have you ever even been in a lab? Most PCs in the biochemistry lab I do my project in run on XP because of the legacy software used to run the machines.
Expect for the dual Xeon workstation running YASARA, which is running Debian (or (k)ubuntu?)
>>55292539
And my own personal anecdote is every workstation is windows. I think the samba server might run linux maybe but I don't know, the others are windows server and aix though.
>>55292820
>OP: Linux _is_ for hobbyists and the ultra paranoid.
or, you know, for the 60-80% of the front facing websites that use linux at some point or another along with all the associated services such as vps and dedi providers, pretty much anybody who uses cpanel, etc
>>55292498
>if you are not a hobbyist?
If you are cheap, don't want to pirate, or are tech illiterate and just want to go on facebook with out worrying about viruses and shit
>>55292498
Poo in the fucking loo Rajeesh.
>>55293028
haha meme.
>>55292857
OK... how many (or what percentage of) professionals use Linux on the desktop?
The generally accepted figure for all users is <2%.
It is also generally accepted that he UI is the biggest barrier.
An OS that is FREE, capable and runs on almost any PC should be doing better.
Shit thread. If something doesn't work in Linux, then it's probably your fault and you're retarded.
>>55292498
>windows
>everything working
kek
>>55293333
>the UI of linux
>>55292498
You just have to ask yourself a simple question to know.
Are you a poor faggot masochist?
If so, then yes, there is a point to using it.
If not , nope, not unless you are getting paid to do it as part of your job. But you still would use a desktop OS at home primarily.
I mean can you imagine some of these faggots if they had a kid.
Kid:
"But dad, the pc at school uses Windows!"
/g/ Linux Dad:
"I don't care what those 'normies' at school are doing. You WILL NOT use that OS in THIS household as long as I am alive!"
>Kid plots to kill you in your sleep
>succeeds
end scene-
>>55292498
>in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx
If by 'real jobs' you mean jobs that are going to be replaced with the quickness, then yes. Obsolete jobs do now and will continue to use windows/osx, especially jobs that don't require even a modicum of secrecy.
>>55293585
it does tho.
>>55292702
autist
>>55292498
> use linux
just type "apt-get" + $package_name
>>55293744
you wish aspie.
there's a reason most jobs use either windows or osx.
>>55292498
I'm paid to use Linux. I run servers. It's rock solid and never goes down. Mac and Windows need to be rebooted every time they update which is like once every three days. Can you imagine having to wait several minutes for Google.com to load because it needed to reboot after an update? Every few days?
>>55292498
Is there even a point in using Windows if you are not a hobbyist?
>OSX
Convenient, secure package management to find 99% of software, with excellent security in place to prevent the 1% of software from damaging your system even if it tried to.
>Linux
Convenient, secure package management to find 99% of software, with excellent security in place to prevent the 1% of software from damaging your system even if it tried to.
>Windows
Can only hunt down software from sketchy sites and must give it administrator access or it can't even run
>>55292498
>Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?
absolutely not
Windows is a shameless botnet used by the technologically illiterate whose knee-jerk defense of their favorite OS is pointing out how more babbified OS X is and how OS X users are anemic rich vegans.
Apple software has been rapidly rotting with each update—see iTunes, FCPX, Numbers, the new inconsistent flat aesthetic for the sake of cutting costs on design (any fat mom can effortlessly design flat shit). It's all pitiful aluminum jewelry now.
You should run Linux because it's not OS X or Windows.
>nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
Don't install a meme distro.
>Not to mention all the best software is on both windows and osx.
What best software? Adobe? Media production shit? Make a Windows partition to run that.
What do you even use a computer for? Work? LibreOffice is about as shit as Microsoft Office, and less shit than Google Docs. You're not missing anything.
>>55292498
Linux is the cancer of computing
Only a fool would use it
>>55292498
Hmm... Really makes u think
>>55292498
Google uses Linux
NASA uses Linux
A ton of other agencies use Linux
Chances are your router uses Linux
Most of the websites you visit are hosted on Linux servers
Android is Linux
You use Linux. Get over it.
>>55294344
>OS X
>Excellent security
Not even a little bit.
In every pwn2own competition OS X is always the first to fall.
>>55293333
This is the worst post I have read in recent memory. There is no way you are above 15 years old.
>>55292498
ran into an issue today with one of my linux-baesd clients: Tracker consumes 100% CPU. Tracker, for the uninformed, is a file indexer akin to Windows' Indexing Service. any good sysadmin/user worth their salt will immediately disable Indexing Service after any fresh Windows install 'cause, really, who the fuck needs this bullshit?
Anyways...
At some point in the last several years Tracker became bundled with Gnome, and Fedora, Ubuntu, and even OpenSUSE users began to complain of 100% CPU utilization when their machines sat idle or, in some cases, when shit was trying to happen. The problem? Tracker's processes launched and tied up all available CPU resources.
There's also no good way to turn this shit off. There's a GUI that allows you to tailor the indexing, but nothing to actually stop it from launching in the first place. RH has a 4 year long bug report on Tracker, with numerous methods to disable it. None, however, are as simple as giving us the ability to stop it from ever launching.
Did I mention that uninstalling it also breaks/removes Brasero and Totem?
Anywho, I'm taking one of the workarounds from the RH bugzilla on it and applying it in the morning. I shouldn't have to do this, I should just be able to disable it or remove it.
>>55293333
Define "professionals"
i'm using linux because my good machine is being RMA'd and i only have a shitty old laptop with a broken internal sata port to use for the time being. i got a $60 ssd, a $20 usb-to-sata connector and installed lubuntu and so far everything literally just werks. browsing the web, watching online videos, and typing up word documents is fine and the laptop runs fast as fuck inspite of being old as dirt.
when i get my real machine back i'm planning on dual-booting bare debian and getting deeper into this. i also love how you can rice shit out pretty easy, and when you can't get something the way you want it with one set of programs, you can just remove them and try something else in little to no time at all.
quick question, any /g/entooman recommend a file manager with thumbnails in the file picker? is unity the only one or are there others?
>>55295551
Thunar + Tumbler
It's just an easier environment for programming.
>>55295564
thanks
>>55292498
Home desktop? Probably not.
Professionally? Probably, field depending.
These threads are just circlejerks.
>>55292524
nigga, you already own a license
Just download the ISO from Microsoft's website (you'll have to get them to send you a link, it isn't public anymore)
and install. Use the key from the sticker on the bottom of your laptop.
>>55295295
>OS X users are anemic rich vegans
the thread is saved
>>55292654
>Literally never had an issue
I used to believe this meme. This HAS to be absolute bullshit.
I used ubuntu for a while because I was curious and it seemed fun to learn a new operating system. I didn't do much on it: I installed a theme, java, google chrome and eclipse.
It literally made me unable to boot into either ubuntu or windows once, another time it booted and the wifi wasn't working, it has NO option to disable mouse accelaration and one time I launched it on a usb stick and some packages just started throwing errors, aparently it had one version but it thought it had a different version, i couldn't uninstall or update the packages.
I can't believe people who say they never have any problems on linux, I literally don't do anything that could cause problems but they still happen.
microsoft is increasingly locking down the OS. they want to make it impossible to torrent media and use it without DRM.
they've written very open legal clauses in the TOS saying what they can do with your personal data including key presses.
Win10 is a ticking time bomb.
>>55295551
Dolphin is objectively the best.
>>55295637
>I had issues therefore everyone had issues.
One time the Windows bootloader broke on my sister's laptop, does that mean that everyone has these issues? Of course not you goddamn retard.
>>55295653
hollywood tells me KDE users are psychopaths
> if you are not a hobbyist?
> What's your excuse?
Implying I need "excuses" to make money with it. Go to hell.
>>55295295
Freetard detected
>>55295671
I had a diferent problem almost every time I installed (a bunch of times) with only light use so I can't believe that someone can have zero problems. Plus no matter who you are you can't get arround the fact that some stugf that are super easy to change on windows (like mouse acceleration) have no option on linux. I had to have a script run on boot.
>>55292498
Linux is used in supercomputing, it's most often OS pick for server, you can program on it perfectly.
You need Windows/Mac only if you're graphic designer pretending to do something with your life.
>>55296046
I've legitimately had no problems, so it seems like a user issue. Plus, I've had different problems literally every time I've ever used Windows. Once again, does that mean that everyone has issues?
>Plus no matter who you are you can't get arround the fact that some stugf that are super easy to change on windows (like mouse acceleration) have no option on linux
Oh, you were just memeing. At least pick something more obscure next time, that way you'll catch more autists with your bait. You'll never catch anyone by calling out something that can easily be changed without any effort whatsoever.
>>55292498
>Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?
if you just use it to browse net it works just fine out of the box depending on distro
some people do it because they have older machine and lightweight distro can breathe in new life into it
>But I think I get it, you are all fat neets that can waste time playing programmer with your distros, but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
not all jobs and even if they do how often do you really work from home?
ffs my little sister used ubuntu on old laptop for school
in this day and age you don't really need to configure anything if you pick distro for the job
I started using Linux distros due to my old copy of windows 8 that came with my shitty lappy running so shitty basic applications and web browsers would crash on me constantly.
That and it's just easier for me to interact and use my unis play servers for assignments and scripts with linux.
>>55294344
keep trying.
if you use linux you are pretty much a communist.
>>55292539
Really depends on the lab. Here (physics) you only have the choice between OS X and some Linux. If you use Windows anyway, you are basically on your own and good fucking luck with that. Most software that is used here is specific for the experiments we take care of, and usually they are developed with UNIX in mind for some very good reasons.
However, in other fields I heard of people mostly using idiot proof Windows software (i.e. chemistry, electrical engineering etc), but usually the reason for that is that the tools are not that specialized and the people working in those fields are not good with computers.
>>55292498
> Windows 7
Evertything works
> W8
sortof works but the UI is shit.
> W10
Fuck w10
>PS-CS2 buggy as hell. need to upgrayde
>Corel X6 Buggy as hell need to upgrayde
>Constant updates halting my work for hours
>Windows deletes some of my software without asking.
>Botnet
Compability issues and ads all over the place.
I went back to w7 on my graphics laptop and loonix on my workstation,.. stable as fuck. can fap to furry porn while updating my kernel
>>55292498
>be EE/CE double
>install ubuntu + cinnamon on ANUS lappy
>jest werks(tm)
>install MPLAB, MATLAB, LTSpice (works 100% perfect in wine), Quartus II, EagleCAD
>everything jest werks
>write all reports in libreoffice and use office 365 online to make sure everything is correct (almost always is)
>have sexy file system, terminal, GUI, programming environment (fuck windows.h)
if it wasn't so easy I wouldn't use it
if you can't hack it you should try not being a brainlet
Windows bullied me with their update shit until I went mad.
And AMD fucked my ass raw because Driver updates where annually fucking over my system.
Most Linux systems are easier to use than Windows nowadays in my opinion.
>>55292540
This. It's a joy to use when everything does what i've set it to do as well.
I don't know why people bother to post these threads anymore. Everything that could be said about this has already been said.
And still people fall for this, everytime.
>>55293864
I actually thought that was a well articulated response.
>>55292702
Please tell me more about GNU and how it works. It seems like so much fun..
>>55292539
>I have never even heard of a lab anywhere with a single windows install. Windows is for casual shit like facebook and gaming. Linux is productivity software.
>>55296619
If that's NASA, they replaced all their Windows systems with Debian IIRC.
>>55296726
>>55296619
https://training.linuxfoundation.org/why-our-linux-training/training-reviews/linux-foundation-training-prepares-the-international-space-station-for-linux-migration
>We migrated key functions from Windows to Linux because we needed an operating system that was stable and reliable – one that would give us in-house control. So if we needed to patch, adjust or adapt, we could.
For normies who just use computers as facebook and solitaire machines it's perfect
Installed it for my dad because windows was running like shit ^_^
>>55292498
Too many compromises have to be made with using Linux as a desktop OS.
I only use it for work, and I try to use it in a VM when possible.
>>55297224
>^_^
kys
>>55292498
lmao kill yourself wincuck
>>55295469
isn't NTFS filesystem performance simply terrible?
du -a / | wc -l returns 138480 "files" in less than a second, while enumerating a relatively small folder with 16k files in explorer takes about a second.
>>55292498
I use opensuse for my laptop. As long as you're only doing normie tier shit its no worries
>>55292498
>>use windows
>everything works
>>use osx
>everything works
>>use linux
>nothing ever works
where did you get this hundred-year-old copypaste text from?
>gf forgets local account password on win8.1 laptop
>thinking I'll just use lubuntu live usb and reset password
>windows ntfs partition cannot be mounted because you might fuck up the file that handles hibernation.
>look online for a work around
>there is none
Isnt this shit supposed to be neckbeard tier? Why cant I choose to fuck up my hibernation file?
>but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
what about IT? software developers?
i guess those aren't "real jobs" to you
but you wouldn't even know what a "real job" is since you push around the "MUH CREATIVE CLOWD!!!" excuse
>>55295497
This.
>>55293810
Everything is bound to fail eventually.
>>55292498
I have a hard time understanding why you care what os I use.
But on a side not
>Everything on osx just werks
My fucking sides.
Osx employs patented click and wait technology so you get lots of time to
Talk to girls
Get a hipster tattoo
Suck down a hipster beverage
Walk to a Starbucks
Ride your fixie
Walk your dog
And all the while the spinning fucking beach ball is there to remind you that, osx isn't slow, this is your fault user.
Fuck osx.
>>55295776
Yeah they are
Also anyone who does full disk encryption is a pedophile
>>55299492
Why do you believe this. I actually sit in strong opposition to cp, and I use full disk encryption on ALL my drives.
That's right
Cell phone, flash drives, backups, laptops,desktop. All of em.
You gotta protect your privacy dumbass.
>I hang out in a place where people SHOULD be intelligent enough to understand that we don't live in a world with governments that want to protect us
>snowden.jpg
>These Fuckers will go outside of the law to fuck anyone who sits on the opposition
>Herr derr using technology to protect your freedom makes you a disgusting pedophile meme
Fucking idiot
>>55296115
There's literally a checkbox on windows and nothing on ubuntu. Stop dismissing it as a meme.
Ans yes, everyone has issues on windows lol, are you meming?
>>55299492
>wincucks actually believe this
>>55299585
>>55299658
Kek, why is /g/ so easily baited
>windows
>always works
get the fuck out ,you cassual
>>55292498
- it's fun
- things work
- it's fun
- command line is a meme
- use less resource and gain performance in whatever you were using (mpv running "impossible" videos with relative ease)
- you're trolling is shit btw
>>55296115
>Install Ubuntu on my mom's laptop
>that shit tells me the 15.10 update is available
>sure, why not?
>the shit hangs on boot after install
>turns out 15.10 isn't compatible with AMD cards for some reason
People still think this is acceptable.
>>55300355
>things work
Terrible b8
>>55300403
Works on my machine.png
>>55300076
>the bait meme
>>55292702
I love that guy
>>55299492
Let's see...
I worked for a DoD contractor for a number of years. Once we got to a point where full encryption didn't present a serious impact to performance it was rolled out to every laptop that left the building.
I worked for one of the largest financial institutions in the world. Full disk encryption was standard on all laptops.
I worked for one of the largest hotel/casino chains in the world. Again, full disk encryption was standard for our laptops (I'm not 100% certain this was the case for the rest of the company, but the network security team I was a part of had full encryption).
My last position was with one of the largest gaming companies in the world. My group secured a network that generated $150M a year in revenue for the company, all of our laptops were fully encrypted.
I'm currently a consultant with 8 large clients. I work on their networks from VM that are all encrypted and my laptop and desktop that I use to manage everything are all encrypted.
Basically, fuck you and your theory.
>>55299616
>nothing on ubuntu
>no option on linux
>Nothing exists but Ubuntu
Good to know.
And you have the arrogance to say that I'm the one who's memeing?
>>55292498
>nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
Is this a meme?
There are distros that work OOTB.
The few that require configuration are the ones that runs on servers.
>>55300355
>command line is a meme
Why? You can do a lot of simple and fun stuff after you get used to it. I'm currently trying to get better with sed but it isn't going so well due to my horrible memory.
I like to control my system instead of the other way around
If you like to be treated like a retard, then windows is ideal for you
>>55296768
Wangblowers on suicide watch!
>>55302946
>you will never rice your loonux thinkpad in space for everyone to see
>>55295619
Doing it wrong SENPAI. You're supposed to check the subscriber downloads (which you can see without owning a subscriber license) and find the one you want, notice its size and SHA1 in the details. Then you got to your torrenting site and look for Windows X and order the results by size; go to the size the Windows X you saw had, and you'll find a few torrents with one or two seeders still. After downloading verify the SHA1 and if it matches you got yourself a genuine Windows ISO that hasn't been altered by criminals to turn it into a botnet. BAKA THB if all the SENPAITACHI aren't doing it like this every time they pirate a Windows.
>>55300389
>turns out 15.10 isn't compatible with AMD cards for some reason
>believing this
I've had nothing but trouble with linux, most distros too
Ain't noboy got time for that ,back to Windows cause it just works
>>55303646
They dropped support for a bunch of AMD drivers actually.
>>55292498
Linux
>install most of linux distros by next-next-next-finish style
>first start, create user
>OS looks for updates in several seconds
>updates under few minutes, doesn't even asks for reinstall (except buntu distros)
>has most programs for basic usage already there (browser,music/video player,flash (eegh, gotta be comfy for neets), word processor, etc
>installing missing program from cli 'package_manager install_flag programname' style
>or use gui packagemanager that most of distros has as easy as look up in specific category -> click on desired program -> click on install button
>in case i don't use exotic hardware / printers / etc, no need to care for drivers
>done in ~20min
MacOS
never used it, but since it comes locked down and already up-and-running for enduser, I guess setup is even less time as for linux? with iPrograms already there ready to use
Windows
since the average user won't have an imaged-usb for his actual setup...
>install windows ~20 minutes
>during that, use other pc to download drivers from company website and hope they actually 'just werk'
>install finished, start, insert usb with drivers, find out usb ports aren't recognised half of the time
>spend more time trying to get driver install files to PC since not even wifi/lan port works without drivers
>drivers are now up = windows update starts his job
>takes 15 minutes to search for all updates; (since windoze install CDs are just OS) finds hundred and more updates
>installs them for 2 hour which slows down PC
>go to specific internet pages to download software
>install, don't forget to unclick adv in installers
>... already nearing 2nd hour and saying 'fuck it, lets do what i actually need to do'
>pc still not in state as linux (and macos?) was 20 minute after fresh install
yes, of course 'it just werks'
>>55303959
Accurate, I use Windows for gaymen and reinstall every month or so. The iso isn't available if the product key is from a software vender for one, you can get around that though. Then the drivers are just missing. Autistic updates. Software installation is horrendous.
>>55293333
>The generally accepted figure for all users is <2%.
That number is from the entire pool of operating systems and their marketshares. It does not define weither the users are professionals or grandma's. There's millions of retards using Windows, you dingus. Probably 5% of the total are professionals versus Linux, where I'd bet, at least 40% of the 2% are proffesionals.
>>55294086
>there's a reason most jobs use either windows or osx.
Yes, untrained chimps can use them. Gotta save money on training, you know.
>use windows
>everything works
I remember when I used to use windows it didn't always work and there was plenty of annoying problems.
>>55295295
It is possible to use OS X mostly from terminal and have a moderately enjoyable experience. It's a feature many people have forgotten about. It is UNIXy. I'd accept that before using Windows ever again.
>>55295371
This, it has like half as many vulnerabilities at any given moment, as Windows, and like two and a half times as many as Linux on a bad Linux day.
>>55295365
>[insert some important company here] uses Linux
Yeah, for their servers and clusters, because it's free. Their desktops are still on OS X or Windows
>>55295637
You did it wrong. Also that faggot piece of shit Windows did this to you not Linux. Microsoft puposely makes dual booting difficult because they can't secure their crappy OS otherwise.
>>55300941
This.
If you want to keep your info out of any (existent or potential) competition, encryption is mandatory.
>>55303959
>use exotic hardware / printers / etc
Unfortunately, this is the case for almost 80% of the people out there.
>>55296046
>mouse acceleration
You fix it from terminal like a true tech enthusiast. You disgrace the hobby if you can't be bothered.
>>55292498
GNU/Linux is great for servers, and I run it on my laptop so I don't have to pay for windows.
>have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
Have you tried Ubuntu? jusswerks and has a huge amount of software for it.
>real jobs require windows and osx.
Nobody sane would even consider putting OSX on a server
>>55295365
>Android is Linux
Android technically uses the linux kernel, but it's not GNU/linux.
>>55304465
>ubuntu just werks
Only if you stick to the defaults.
>>55304510
I never had any issues when I ran Ubuntu.
>>55304531
Ubuntu default I had issues with
Lubuntu on the other had is great, fuck unity
>>55304531
It can be a buggy bitch sometimes. I often run into the issue of it refusing to shutdown down after kernel updates. Never happens on Ubuntu Server for some reason, though.
>>55303850
bullshit
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
>>55304732
>open source driver
Do you even understand the difference between using open source drivers and supporting the actual AMD drivers through fglrx? You shouldn't post about stuff you dont understand.
>>55303850
No. They stopped supporting the god awful catalyst proprietary drivers. Good riddance. We won't miss them.
Even AMD themselves state the proprietary drivers are over.
Just use their new open source drivers. Works much better and anyone who doesn't read for 2 seconds into this and stays with 14.04 for "muh catalyst drivers" get exactly what they deserve.
>>55304880
And that's one of the problems with Linux. Proprietary drivers aren't supported and open drivers won't allow you to use your GPU to the 100%, but there's no other option. Truly a meme OS.
>>55304840
>implying that you can't still install the amd drivers
>>55304928
>Proprietary drivers aren't supported
I believe you have the thought process mixed up in your head.
The onus is on the creator of the closed-source driver to support the OS, not the other way around. Regardless, you are more than welcome to install it manually if that's what you want.
>>55305074
>>55305092
>why use Windows where the driver just works if instead you can use an operating system where you can either use a driver that works at 90% of your GPU's capacity or install a lot of shit manually?
Every single thing you say is another great reason why Windows is superior to Linux.
> use windows
> windows update needs to look for updates
> ....
> 30 min. later
> ....
Tried the few unclear solution on official forums and updating i still a major PITA.
Imho linux is easier to use and issues easier to debug.
>>55300941
I hate to break it to you anon, but you work for pedophiles
>>55305303
I'm literally in the process of reinstalling Windows in my VM because the latest updates completely bricked it, even a windows reset wouldn't fix it, I had to wipe it all and reinstall
I was able to save my files using qemu-nbd by mounting the vdi file as a loop device in Fedora.
>>55305441
They are currently disabled to prevent people from installing it just to get a free version of Windows 10. Unless with commie free broken sofwtare, with good software you actually have to pay money to use it.
>>55299585
>These Fuckers will go outside of the law to fuck anyone who sits on the opposition
>Thus I'm gonna do exactly what the opposition does, instead of letting them protect me because I have nothing to hide
retard
>>55305712
>install a great OS inside a VM running in a shit OS
>if it breaks blame the good OS instead of the shitty one
Do you guys even try anymore?
>>55305441
debug the windows is just as much of a shithole for the average user as debugging any linux distro
3 moth later...
>use windows
nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
>use linux
everything works
9/10 super computers in the world run either UNIX or Linux. Even your precious Windows in based on DOS which was inspired by UNIX.
NASA uses Linux
Google uses Linux
Most of the websites you visit use Linux
Chances are your router uses Linux
Android uses Linux
So when you people say "I don't use Linux" you just sound ignorant as hell because you do... Please, just get over it and try not to fall for these stupid memes.
>>55306261
>NASA uses Linux
>Google uses Linux
>Most of the websites you visit use Linux
>Chances are your router uses Linux
>Android uses Linux
>Cuck use windows.
I fell for the vim meme and now I can't use anything else. Atom with vim-mode okay, window management also sucks without i3
>>55299484
>And all the while the spinning fucking beach ball is there to remind you that, osx isn't slow, this is your fault user.
how would you know?
i kinda like never have problems but i've seen weeks of uptime with 10 applications, 100 tabs, vms and webservers running on a mbp, and in this special case there is (seldom) a beach ball to see
now beat my anecdotal evidence with yours please
>>55306576
You could've of just added nano or whatever you use to noreplace and then once you got used to vim use deselect. Vim is actually pretty awesome once you get used to it.
>>55304280
certified UNIX my friend.
mac laptop, bsd at home.
a pity they won't use zfs
>>55299306
did you try mounting with ntfs-3g?
>Windows
Shitty Nvidia drivers conflict with software and randomly blackscreen while using shitty Widevine for Netflix
1/10 times I boot and sound doesn't work wtf
btw I use Malwarebytes, Bitdefender and uBlock for Firefox so I know it's not malware. It's buggy software because Windows is bloated as fuck. "Your shit has stopped working" Use task manager to kill process
I had a hell of a time getting rid of the Upgrade to Windows 10 bullshit. I removed it from the registry and even deleted the module for it and still I would occasionally get and error popup. Luckily they fixed that with an update.
>Gentoo
Took 45 minutes to install but that was with LVM and Dm-Crypt. I got everything working and haven't had a problem since. Scratch that I have had pebcak issues but I quickly resolved it once I realized what I did wrong.
> unironically uses emoji
I'm just going to assume you're a 9 year old who just tried to install arch with no prior knowledge with a noob distro. Good job, anon.
>>55292498
No joke, installed Ubuntu GNOME on my thinkpad edge e455 in April and shit worked right out of the box, minus the webcam, but that is a non issue for me since I don't use a web cam enough to constitute it working on my laptop.
>>55292498
>have laptop from 2010 doing nothing for months
>need to burn some cds
>it's the only thing i own capable of doing this anymore
>would rather go to the trouble of putting Ubuntu on it than wait for the 15min windows bootup + Dropbox sync + attempts to download gigs of missed updates
Feels good man
>>55296325
>Using Linux makes you pretty much a communist.
But Linux is almost as capitalist as you can get. You're not restricted on how you use Linux, so you can edit it and sell it how you want. Also, what's so bad about being communist?
>>55309329
>But Linux is almost as capitalist as you can get.
For very restricted definitions of "capitalist".
In fact, so restricted that it casts doubt on your understanding of what constitutes "capitalism".
>>55309588
Explain how Linux is restricted. I'm talking in a Lassiez Faire style. Because with Linux, the market (or in this case the users) determine what's popular. Much like Lasseiz Faire capitalism.
>cant use linux on a decent custom gaming rig without srs performance penalties
>tfw married to Windows forever because directx
feels ok I guess
I booted linux a few times but if im going to have to run windows on my gaming rig anyway i might as well just deal with it in general
>>55295295
>What best software? Adobe? Media production shit? Make a Windows partition to run that.
so to use linux properly i have to install windows to run a bunch of programs anyway
why the fuck not just use windows instead of linux and windows
dead srs
>>55311310
>so to use linux properly i have to install windows to run a bunch of programs anyway
>why the fuck not just use windows instead of linux and windows
>>55311310
There's way better alternatives
ITT: baby duck syndrome.
>>55292498
>is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist
>on a technology hobbyist board
>>>/v/
My company uses OSX *only* because developing and testing (fuck you appium) iOS apps is impossible without xCode.
If not for that we'd be using Linux.
I admit the UX is great but everything else is pretty meh.
>>55296619
>>55296726
>>55296768
>>55302946
>being in space as the first human traveling to Mars.
>Your computers decide to upgrade to win10 some day.
>All your files, including coordinates for landing and navigating gone
>fuckthis.jpg
Thats why NASA uses Linux. True story.
>>55292724
I think the only problem here is you, anon. I can offer you a final solution.
>>55292498
If you still use an old laptop with old, slow Windows, Linux is fucking magic. It's okay too on desktops, but I'll miss some of my games.
>>55292498
seriously, I don't have to tinker around linux for hours.
Linux is THE hobbyist OS.
>>55315597
I meant I don't have time to tinker around linux.
>use windows
>everything works
Nice joke.
>>55292498
>Nothing ever works
I've been using Linux for 5+ years and I'd spent far less time fixing issues on it than what I had to do in Windows.
>real jobs require windows and osx
Not necessarily. If you're going anywhere in the programming field Linux/Unix knowledge is irreplaceable.
So stop shitposting and complaining when you're incapable of installing and using one of many Linux distributions that many of which are geared towards noobs like you.
>>55305754
>>55303506
why not download straight from microsoft?
>>55305811
well you certainly aren't trying
>>55304432
even if that's the case, half of the 'install-and-take-care-of-everything' scripts try to search for the correct driver and install it on their own
>>55292498
I use Linux and everything works out of the box. The only thing I changed was the fucking wallpaper.
>>55292498
I hate you
>>55292498
>but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
We work with Linux because nobody was able to make ember.js run under Windows.
>>55292498
>use windows
everything works, badly
>use osx
everything works
>use linux
everything works
