They keep hyping stuff up, but in reality it turns out to be shit.
480 was hyped to beat a 980, but turns out it can't even beat a 970: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4pzcl1/xfx_rx480_unboxing_benchmarks/
Where is the AMD we need to actually compete with Nvidia?
>Using Ribbit
They probably have more Nvidia shills than we do here
>>55287884
sorry AMD but you lied to us, I wont buy you shitty card you filthy liars motherfcukers
>The nose knows
>>55287884
DELETE THIS
>>55288005
That is literally the stock fan speed profile, AMD chose to keep the fan speed low to try to keep fan noise down because blowers are so damn loud
Hopefully when Zen turns out to be another AMDelusion people will let this company go bakrupt like it deserves
Serious question. When did AMD themselves hype this up to beat the 980? iirc they said that it would provide great 1080p gaming and that 2 in CF would beat a 1080 in Ashes. I don't think the hype is AMD's fault.
>>55288220
It was definitely somebody's fault.
If AMD had just come out and said it's a slightly cheaper 970, all would be fine, but the hype train got out of control.
It's a fault with the people expecting more.
For example: AMD said Zen is 40% more IPC than Excavator. This is still below Sandy Bridge levels. And yet people are talking it up to kill Skylake.
>>55288032
>AMD chose to set the fan profile such that at 88°C, the fan will only be at 20%
hmmm
>>55288425
It actually gets to 58% at 88C
>wait for 480
>if it doesnt deliver 980 performance, go poorfag balls to the wall and get a 1070
problem solved
>>55287884
Do not believe. Talk to me again in 4 days. Then we will see the real benchmarks
>>55288032
>>55288425
>>55288468
All modern GPUs do this. My 980 Ti gets to 80C, but fan speed only goes to 50%
>>55288508
this is my plan. I haven't built a nice rig in 8 years. Waiting on 480 benchmarks. I have the cash for a 1070 but if the 480 is good, would rather get that for cheaper.
RX480 vs 970
pros
>power efficiency (most likely)
>temps
>2x* the VRAM
>async and dx12 support
>cheaper MSRP
cons
>may not overclock as well as was expected
>2 years newer but performance not any better
>hype machine makes it seem shit even if it's reasonable
*yes yes, it's actually 2.28x VRAM
personally, I think it'll be 390 replacement with better efficiency, which is pretty fair for $200/$230. maybe once it gets AIB and an extra 6/8 pin, it'll overclock to meme levels and actually beat 980s like we expected
Some anons claim that all the hype about rx 480 beating titans and 980ti was actually stirred up by nvidia shills who want AMD drones to look like a bunch of delusional cucks.
Don't know if this theory is too tinfoily 480 claims have changed up in the last few weeks:
>week 1
>"RX 480 gets in spitting distance of the 1070, it'll definitely crush the 980, maybe beat the nano or fury"
>week 2 - some anon shows 88c benchmark
>"Fan speed is set too low, blower fans should operate at 80%" (jet engine take off tier noise)
>Chink benchmarks released supposedly showing people playing gayms with the rx 480
>"Clear evidence rx 480 will beat the 980ti, no doubt about it"
>last few days - benchmarks show it to be behind the 970, barely better than the 380x
>"b-b-but the rx 480 is designed to compete with 960/380, it's the budget choice"
Who's shilling who? Where the shekels flow? Great fucking mystery.
>>55287884
but it actually beats the 980, it gets 13000+ at 1266mhz combined with fx 9590
nvidia fanbois @ full damage control
>>55288870
It doesn't even get close to the 980, it can't even beat an average 970
>>55288910
>i-i made a good choice buying an nvidiot card r-right guys?? l-look amd is shit!!
>TFW I've been waiting for a several weeks, holding off buying a GPU for my build and I get THIS shit
What the fugg, AMD
>>55288733
That's bullshit though. AMD started these outrageous claims themselves by trying to sell 2 RX 480 as better than a 1080 and that will not be the case in the vast majority of games.
AMD was trying to advertise the card as a high end card when it's a mid range card to try to take some wind out of nvidia's sail and it made people have unrealistic expectations for it.
>>55288220
AMD didn't hype it
People hyped themselves because it looks like it's going to be extremely good value for the money.
To the point that nvidia fans or shills are going crazy trying to downplay the card.
The over-reaction to a regular meh midrange card that looks to be performing better than nvidia's last generation high end is insane.
>>55289088
It's not even good value for the money though.
A 970 is $250 and faster, a 480 is $200 and slower
GTX 970 at 1500 MHz gets ~13500 graphics score in Firestrike. That thing got 10000 at stock clocks and doesn't OC more than 10%. Ayyyyy
>>55289105
You sound like a fanboy to me, m8
>>55287884
Some say only those that AMD sent a 480 for reviewing has the driver optimized for the 480, is this true?
I feel bad for the fanboys who bought into the hype. Pic related. What a waste.
Nailed it.
What went wrong?
>>55289232
Nothing, I suspect the single benchmark is rigged and the many benchmarks before it showing better performance, are not.
And even as a GTX970 with 8GB's for cheaper, that's still in AMD's favor, so I don't really understand how the nvidia fanboys think AMD's been BTFO by the benchmark.
>>55289266
It's not just an extra 8GB's of memory, it's also better at dx12 with a bunch of new features that the 970 lacks.
>>55289281
Features like being slower?
>>55288567
So planned obsolescence isn't a meme?
>>55289313
They do that to keep fan noise down
>>55289313
What? This is a tradeoff. High temps for low noise.
Most people prefer low noise, and the ones that don't have custom fan profiles.
>>55289333
You're not listening. The higher the temps, the lower the lifespan.
>>55288910
I'm laughing my ass off at that damage control
If this card isn't on par with a 390x, I am very disappointed. This is coming as an AMD fanboy. I don't care if "that was never the expectation," a 390 at $200 isn't a game changer to me.
>>55289356
True, but I doubt it makes much of a difference
>>55289371
480 gets even hotter than a 1080, confirmed for AMD house fire
I want to get 480 to replace my 760 while I wait for Vega or the 1080ti, should I just wait?
>>55288468
thats an hardcore torture test retard, same is with the poweruse you will never see such high poweruses outside of a torture test.... 1080 hits over 320watts on this test....
>>55289356
Yea, that's not a meaningful concern.
>>55289418
Uhh 1080 hits about 186W on that test
AMD Damage Control in full effect
>>55289495
He's right though
No need to upgrade.
>>55289495
He's not wrong though. Who the fuck upgrades from like say GTX 980 Ti to GTX 1070? You never upgrade to a lower tier card unless you're several generations behind.
>>55287884
It's literally in their name: A Major Disappointment
>>55289570
kek
Still rocking a 660. Is this the card to upgrade to?
>>55289675
It's pretty good for 1080p
>>55289544
Nah. a 390 at $200 is not a big deal. If AMD wasn't in the position they are in, it would be fine. But AMD is in a bad spot and they need a game changer. 390-level performance, and poor overclocking, is not good, plain and simple. Don't forget the 970 OCs very well.
>>55289730
Yeah I mean this thing has basically identical price performance to the $250 970, it's like they're putting just another clone card out on the market that doesn't contribute anything.
been working on this for a while... and based on this thread it seems like the 1070 is the better choice
any thoughts on this? buying anything that says "founders edition" on it does make me nervous though. should i wait for the 1070's price to come down and for a non-founders version?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/vasylus/saved/gvTdnQ
>>55287884
>480 was hyped to beat a 980, but turns out it can't even beat a 970
But all the leaked reviews say it's on par with the 980
>>55289749
Even the 390 is selling for $250 now. I don't see how the 480 fits in to the market if it can't even beat a 390.
>giving a fuck about the 480
wheres my 460 fa/g/s at?
i want that sweet 100$ gpu
>>55288019
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR, TWO 480X'S CHEAPER THAN ONE 1080.
>>55288005
>>55288032
>>55288425
>>55288468
ITT: Retards who don't understand how fan profiles work.
Pretty meh
>>55287884
I honestly blame the drivers, AMD probably hasn't released a new driver for this yet and people are relying on the old ones which is complete dogshit
>>55289857
More like this retarded chinese kid purposely put the fan speed to 20% so that the GPU would heat up and throttle itself prompting poor performance in benchmark
>>55289811
>1070 is the better choice
the 1070 is more than double the price
the fuck is the point of getting a new GPU past the 7950? For fucking what VR games? Everything looks like ass anyway and every game that comes out can stil run on a fucking 7950 or around that anyway. Fuck you nvidia and amd
THERE IS STILL NO REASON TO GET A NEW VIDEO CARD
>>55289544
He's not right
AMD promoted this as their huge ass high end card. Hell as their first card out for sale this is their fagship card.
AMD even supposedly OC'd it and got some 7.4tflops which is miles ahead of a 980ti but for some reason the 480 can't beat a 970 in this benchmark
>>55289547
If I had a 970, I probably wouldn't upgrade to a 480 either.
However, I have a 660 and barring something unforeseen, it's very likely I'll be upgrading to an aftermarket 480.
>>55289940
For playing above 1080p
>>55289952
The sad thing is that people actually believe posts like this.
>>55289976
hmmm is 4k really that huge now? everything still looks like shit
>>55289811
>should i wait for the 1070's price to come down and for a non-founders version?
I'd wait for a sub $400 partner card that can sustain its highest boost clock, otherwise the price/performance isn't worth it IMO.
>>55289900
We'll see if the review drivers change anything, but I doubt the difference will be more than a few percent.
>>55289829
It bascially has 390 performance with a few bells and whistles, like power consumption. Less silicon = cheaper for AMD. I'm still hoping the the geometry engine (for tessellation) is significantly improved.
>>55289749
>another clone card out on the market that doesn't contribute anything.
>contribute
You are incredibly stupid
>>55289828
These retards are comparing the 3DMark 11 score of a 970 to the Fire Strike score of a 480. It's just spillover from /v/.
>>55290005
>It bascially has 390 performance with a few bells and whistles, like power consumption
So basically it's a 970
>>55289952
>AMD promoted this as their huge ass high end card. Hell as their first card out for sale this is their fagship card.
Damn, are you stupid or just white trash?
>>55289990
AMD literally advertised it as their 980 competitor for less than half the price
>>55290037
>are you stupid for paraphrasing what AMD said?
>>55290043
AMD never advertised the RX480 as a competitor with the 980 for half the price, but the fact it does anyways is pretty astounding and has nvidia fanboys absolutely ass ravaged.
>>55290030
It's a 970 in DX11, but better in DX12. NVIDIA can't into DX12. The 970 has half the VRAM vs the 8GB 480, which may considerably hinder the 970 in new games. Also the 480 will likely age significantly better, considering AMD's GCN track record.
>>55290054
Go back to vee, retard. Your mother was right, video games do rot your brain.
>>55290104
>look at our GPU
>it does 7.4tflops at 1200mhz
>see this "competitor" performance?
>oh that happens to be the same as a 980's performance
>>55290030
>a 970 with lower power consumption, better DX12 support and non-nigger 4 GB GDDR5 loadout for $200
Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>55289371
gtx 1080 vs gtx 980
>double the Vram
>481 Mhz core speed difference
>only leads with 1 fps
I own an Asus gtx 750 ti btw.
>>55289952
This is the baiting Nvidiots have been posting since the 480 was announced. I see so many threads with Nvidiots pulling this bullshit. It's all about damage control because Nvidia has no answer to the $200-250 market segment right now.
Now I am not going to say the 480 is gonna be a great card. Until we see the actual reviews with updated drivers and beyond I really cannot make comment on that side of things. But it appears Nvidiots are trolling for maximum keks with fake shit. Maybe they are just salty because they can't buy a 1080 @ $599 like they were told they would be able to.
>>55290150
The graph is about temperature tripfag. Just delete your post and reply with "I was only pretending to be retarded."
>>55290150
not sure if bait
>>55290172
Everyone makes mistakes, don't be a f@ggot about it.
>>55287884
Always
Massive
Disappointment
If the official benchmarks say Rx480 equates to a GTX 970 this thing is a dud and is best forgotten. Pick up the 390x and don't look back kids.
>>55290196
I'm sure you make more than most, filtered
Dont know. I'm still buying one.
I want a mid-tier card with low power consumption and affordable price. Is there a better alternative to the rx 480? I don't think so. That's why it's a perfectly good card. My only complaint based on the information available so far is that the reference model doesn't come with a DVI port. Custom models probably will though, so it's fine.
>>55290236
>buy a 390x
>when you can get same performance with upgraded features for cheaper
Yeah sure bud.
>>55290268
Did you also report me for posting "f@ggot"?
Such a fracking drama queen!
>>55290291
No. All those saying buy a 380x, 390, 970 are idiots. The 480 may end up costing the same but it will have better future proofing and lower power usage than the other cards.
>>55289749
fuck off shill, don't twist my words into your goyshit. You know damn well that we don't know how good the 480 is yet. Don't act so sure of yourself. Oh wait you're a shill.
Anyways, I said IF the card is on par with a 390/970, it's a disappointment, which means we still have yet to see. And I don't care if AMD never claimed it would be on par with a 390x. AMD could've claimed that bulldozer was going to be complete horseshit, it's still horeshit at the end of the day.
if the card is not at least as good as a 390x it is not an incredibly compelling card. It might be ok, sure. A decent deal, especially if you have jack shit. But not incredibly compelling, which is what AMD. They need a GREAT card. They need a card that's so good for the money that a good portion of the market chooses them over Nvidia. I guarantee you 390/970 level performance, with poor overclocking due to a shitty cooler, will not be enough.
Why? Because have shown that they'll spend more money than they want to if the performance is good enough. Look at the 970. Most of the market share, according to AMD, spends in the $100-$300. And yet the 970 was $350. Still the best selling card ever. Hmmm. Maybe people are willing to spend more if the performance justifies it. the 1070 is a bit overpriced now, but once it hits MSRP, it could be as successful as the 970 if the 480 just isn't good enough, no matter how cheap it is. AMD needs to stop fucking around.
>>55290291
I'm just eager to see how the aftermarket cards perform
I really need something new, games are starting to stress my 660 finally, and I want to play more of them at 60fps now.
Maybe in a few years I'll even have enough cash for a full upgrade.
>>55289900
>I honestly blame the drivers, AMD probably hasn't released a new driver for this yet and people are relying on the old ones which is complete dogshit
This is something that people say every fucking generation, then every fucking generation, retards claim AMD driver problems are a thing of the past.
>>55290291
The adapter is like $6, and the XFX comes with one. Also, as you wrote, partner cards might have a DVI port, considering the the pinout is there.
>>55290344
A passive adapter doesn't support 144hz
>>55290322
Your whole post is written for someone in the 5% enthusiast market. The 480 is a 200USD card for people who want to upgrade from their old shit, like >>55290325
>>55287884
Say that to my wallet
>>55290362
If you have a 144Hz monitor, you need a different card, one with a DVI port and probably significantly more performance, like the 1070 or yet unreleased 490
I highly doubt this is legit. AMD wouldn't advertise the rx 480 as "ready for VR" and have deals with Alienware if it's only on par with a 970. 970 chugs on VR. If these benchmarks ARE real, sell your AMD stock while you can lads.
>>55290419
What? No I don't. My old HD7850 does fine with 144hz. And since the pins are already there on the 480, some custom models will most likely include DVI.
>>55290377
I have a 280. $200 390 performance is OK, but it's not AMAZING. AMD needs AMAZING. If the card is barely on par with a 970 (which btw OCs very, very well), with shitty overclocking unless you pay even more for a card with a decent cooler, I might just say fuck it and wait for Vega. I would buy Nvidia if I didn't hate them for the 3.5 lies and tesselation goyworks BS that hurts the entire gaming industry and community. It hurts, I didn't wanna wait this long to upgrade. But hopefully, the 480 is indeed on par with a 390x.
>>55287884
I don't care whether the 480 is an upgrade from a 390, 970, or 980, since I'm upgrading from a 670.
I was never going to OC the thing, and I'm strongly considering moving to Vega/GP102 in the Spring anyway.
I also give no fucks about temperatures, only total power.
The 480 can't possibly pull over 150W because 6-pin, and if it stays under 120W at stock I'd be quite satisfied.
>>55290449
>My old HD7850 does fine with 144hz
Why upgrade then? 480 can't do 144FPS at 1080p on most modern games. TW3 only gets to 60FPS if High settings are used. And I'm quite aware that the pinout exists, I'm >>55290344
>>55290449
what games do you play ?
>>55290512
I only use 144hz for csgo and other games I lock to 60. I want an upgrade because the temps on my current card can get pretty infernal and noisy.
>>55290480
390 vs 390x is only a few percent difference. I had a 280x, sold it for $190, and I'm getting the 470 (as long as the set the TPD appropriately, i.e., not 110W).
So what's the release date again?
>>55290573
2 days, its in the thread
>>55290573
tomorrow or something
like less than 36 hours so make sure you panic and buy an overpriced 1080
>>55289069
>outrageous claims
I don't think displaying what a graphics chip is capable of doing constitutes an "outrageous claim."
Like, when someone cites the top speed of a car do you call it an outrageous lie because you couldn't maintain that speed while traversing a roundabout?
People are comparing a single Firestrike benchmark from a single chip to a huge cross section of GTX 970 benchmarks. The problem with this comparison is twofold: 1) the selection size for the AMD chip is so small that the comparison is largely irrelevant and 2) people who have 3dmark are overclocking their cards, so the overwhelming majority of cards sampled are overclocked
People are using this comparison and in the same breath are saying AMD is unreasonable for showing developers how powerful AMD hardware can be. That's fucking retarded and you're fucking retarded.
inb4 AMD fanboy, 2500k and GTX 960 here.
>>55290432
The "ready for VR" cards are the 970 and the 290, as per the official requirements from Valve and Oculus for a (supposedly) smooth and comfortable baseline experience.
>doing benchmarks without card optimized drivers
![rx-480-bits-and-chips-leak[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VHGnOcU.png "rx-480-bits-and-chips-leak[1].png")
I expect a shitload of Nvidiots spamming /g/ in the next couple of days saying the 480 is a failed card simply because it does not OC very well on the reference cooler.
>>55290723
Just waiting to see it @ 1600MHz beating a 1070
>>55290770
Not going to happen on reference cooler so stop baiting it Nvidia shill.
>>55290780
Not going to happen at all, m8. Your hype train is about get wrekt. Manage your expectations fool
>>55290780
But it was supposed to easily hit 1600MHz at 150W. What happened?
>>55290682
Drivers have been out for a few days you retard, not that it matters, with their shitty overhead.
>>55290664
>>55290801
I don't think anyone said that the reference designs would clock that high. Non-reference boards with better cooling and two 6 pin connectors or an 8 pin connector could do that, but not reference ones.
>>55290801
Nobody ever said that. It was speculated that the very best chips MIGHT hit 1600 and certainly that those chips would have to be on a custom board.
>>55290860
Lots of shills said that.
>>55290830
I love how timid you shills have become more that real results are here.
>>55287884
what the fuck is up with those "benchmarks"? never mind the whole 20% fanspeed 70c+ temps issue, 60fps in overwatch? 60fps in gta5? 1080p for fucks sake? my shitty r9 285 will do 60fps in both of those games at 1080p near best graphic presets (although 1% and 0.1% low drops are horrible on this card)
>>55290879
Overwatch will easily hit 100fps on a 480. ~60 on GTA V. ~100 on Doom 2016. ~60 on The Witcher 3. ~250 on CS:GO.
Stop baiting Nvidia troll.
This is very bad, RX 480 was suppose to be a 390x at stock clocks except now using less than half the power and having huge OC potential. As of these benchmarks the RX 480 is now the worst value card you could possibly ever get.
>>55290912
>Overwatch will easily hit 100fps on a 480. ~60 on GTA V. ~100 on Doom 2016. ~60 on The Witcher 3. ~250 on CS:GO.
>Stop baiting Nvidia troll.
can you not read or did you not open the thread/imgur album in OP?
>>55288468
>58% fan speed
>already 2300RPM
only shit
>>55290109
The 970 is already better than the 480. The 480 is going to have to play catch up at this point.
>>55290141
It's not a bad deal. Hell the 480 might even be the best 1080p card you can buy. But just barely. It's almost exactly equal with a 970. What kind of product is that? It's slightly better than a 2 year old card.
>>55290208
fitting
HOL UP
I have a 144hz monitor that can use dp1.2 or dldvi
Will the 480, reference, be able to drive it with its dp?
I just don't understand what's so fucking hard about spending an extra $150-200 on the most important part of a PC when you're a gaymer...can't you just save up the extra bit or get a case that isn't some flashy dumb ricer shit and then spend the bit extra to greatly improve your experience on something you'll use for years? The difference in power between a 1070 and 480 is incredibly significant but the difference in price shouldn't be that big of a deal unless you're ludicrously poor, in which case maybe you shouldn't be playing so many PC games.
>tfw your company is working on a 10 dollar chip that has nearly infinite graphical processing capability and draws negligible power
We'll be making an announcement in 6 months. It's going to revolutionize the industry. AMD and nVidia will be bankrupt.
>>55290875
If by "shills," you meant "trolls," then yes, lots of them said that. They probably said things like "Nvidia on suicide watch" as well.
You're supposed to be intelligent enough to disregard them. Guess not.
It will still get a best buy award. A thing Nvidia won't be able to match until possibly the 1060 many months from now. Stock of 1080/1070's is still low over a month after paper launch. At least I will be able to buy a 480 at launch for around the price advertised.
>>55290912
>>55290932
I'm waiting you fuckstick, want to go load that imgur album that shows 60fps on overwatch/gta5 in 1080p? or did you just see 60fps overwatch and assume I'm a nvidia troll for wondering why it's doing so badly?
>>55290322
Not sure what your issue is, I agree with this. A card that is "just barely better than what is out right now" is not good enough.
>>55290978
Because most gamers are spotty teens living with their parents who are unwilling to lay down $700 + PC on a high end setup just so Jonny can play Minecraft 16 hours a day.
>>55290377
The 970 and the 390 are both 250USD and offer even better performance. Makes the 480 just look redundant.
>>55290432
Uhh the 970 is literally the flagship VR-ready card.
If the 480 performs the same, it will also be VR ready.
>>55291035
The 480 is a 380 Nvidiot
>>55290611
My 970 is not overclocked and scores within 200 points of the 480. It's basically identical.
>>55290912
Except Overwatch is only hitting 60FPS with the 480, look at the OP
>>55290978
I usually just buy whatever $200-$300 card is available every couple years.
Rather than buying an $800 card every couple years.
>>55290930
>the RX 480 is now the worst value card you could possibly ever get
I wouldn't say that. In fact it's still a really good value. But it's just on par with a cheap 390 or 970.
>VR
Way to early to be worrying about that, boys. Wait for the 2nd generation headsets at least. By then you'll have a crop of better-than-baseline graphics cards designed with VR as a priority from the start instead of a tacked on feature halfway into development.
>>55290973
It can drive it, but you will never get to 144fps in any newer games. It has the same performance as a 970.
>>55290978
I just feel uncomfortable with spending money. Especially now when it's summer and I'm months away from getting any more
really don't want to overtax my account and end up begging mom/dad for rent money
>>55291109
Those benchmarks are done on ultra. Drop it down a couple notches and you'll hit 144fps in most games no problem with minimal graphical compromise.
>>55291130
>minimal graphical compromise
More like a lot of graphical compromise.
>>55291073
Well I've seen other vids showing it hitting ~100 on Epic settings so it's up for debate on that one until release reviews come out.
>>55291109
I only play csgo :^)
>>55291203
Then you will be fine, hell you could run it on a toaster
>>55287884
Okay this is going to be a problem.. I have strictly 300 to spend on GPU upgrade, and now this thing apparently does not deliver. The 1070 is too expensive.
What should I do now? Wait for 1060ti? Or rx490?
>>55291271
wait a couple days for actual benchmarks instead of rigged tests designed for nvidia shitposting
>>55291271
$300 is an odd price point, there isn't a lot around there right now.
For $200 the 480 is still the best, but you could easily get a used 980 or even 980 Ti for $300 that will outperform it.
>>55290875
Nvidiot confirmed
>>55290945
480 will beat the 970 except in isolated cases. 970 will be rekt in DX12. Be happy with your card, the 970 is still good.
>>55291007
Keep spending mum's money, nerd.
>>55291020
Clearly the price drops happened because they're trying to clear inventories, otherwise the cards would still be 300+. You can thank the 480 for that.
>>55291041
Quit posting retard
>>55291203
460 is perfect for you and your wife's son's gaming preference
>>55291333
>tfw have too much for the rx480, but too little for the 1070
Historically, how has the x60ti compared to the x70? Has it always been a close call or what?
>>55287884
as opposed to shitvidia who turns their products to shit a year after release?
>>55291359
There's no guarantee that a 1060Ti is on the way. If you're trying for 1080p/60FPS, the 480 will be plenty
>>55288910
>>55289118
I used to have a 970 this was my highest result, though im sure the 750k bottlenecked it some to take it with a grain o salt
>>55291477
Your graphics score is 12518, your 970 actually beats the 480, just like most of them do, see pic.
>>55291424
I might want to upgrade my 970 though. Not sure what card to go to. I just want 1080p 60fps at ultra settings. Currently the 970 is starting to fall on that part, for example the division can only be played on high.
Or maybe it's just badly written, I don't know.
>>55289305
Wow real good point
>asynchronous compute
>>55291521
The Division is a beast. You might even want a 1080 if you want to make sure you always get 60fps
>>55291563
That's the problem though. Newer games are all going to be more and more graphically intense, and I guess about 2 years later the 970 won't be able to keep up with even high 60fps. But then I guess by that time, the next architecture would come out?
>>55291500
gpu score on the 480 is 12467, not bad considering my 970 was overclocked to 1440mhz core, while the 480 was stock clock.
Considering 970 is still $300ish with hald the ram of the 480, the 480 still is the better choice.
The fud machine is in overdrive holy shit
>>55291588
And the drivers were literally released to reviews like two days ago and only get better with time.
Third party coolers with another 6 or 8 pin and beefier cooling who knows what itll hit
>>55291588
970 is actually $250 now
>>55291583
Yeah the 480/970 are not very future proof for 1080p
I'd say something around a 1070/980 Ti would be a good target
>>55291649
We have to wait and fucking see when custom pcbs come out that are binned, it could stay relevant easily or it could be shit
>>55287884
>tfw im comfy with my 980ti at 3840x2160
>>55291521
Often the difference between High and Ultra is almost unnoticable but with a severe performance hit. FO4 is a prime example of this. You need to learn to work the settings (turn Gameworks to medium, etc.) if you want constant 60FPS.
The 480 isn't for you. It's got equal performance with the 970/390, not sure who told you otherwise. The only cards available right now are 980Ti, 1070, 1080.
>>55291635
Thanks to clearance sales because of the 480. 980Ti took a huge hit because of the 1070
>>55291649
PS4 will be around for another three years, which has the equivalent of a 7870 with extra VRAM, so the 470/480 will be good for years at 1080p.
>>55291718
OC that shit if it isn't
>>55291833
>PS4 will be around for another three years, which has the equivalent of a 7870 with extra VRAM, so the 470/480 will be good for years at 1080p.
What the fuck am I even reading? Time for you to leave.
>>55291635
Was going by the 970s on newegg from 270 to 300 not including any mir, but ofcorse nvidia is going to start loweing ite current gen prices anyway
>>55289843
>Two high end cards requires to beat one
I bet you'd buy a Bugatti, wouldn't you, squidward?
Get roasted by 1080's left and right, my child. If you actual stand by the defense that the 480x is better than the 1080 but only when you take the risk and power consumption of two of them, then you have issues my friend.
>>55291858
>What the fuck am I even reading? Time for you to leave.
Can't help you if you're too stupid to connect the dots
>>55291912
If we wanted console tier graphics, we would play on a fucking console
>>55290104
Yes they did you dumb nigger. They used the AotS benchmark with two 480s, which gave a score that was very close to two 980s. The comparison was implicit, but they gave a score on par with the 980.
>>55291934
For $200 you're not going to get anything much more impressive than console tier graphics you fucking retard.
>>55291944
and the 480 matches those benchmarks
I don't know why you're so salty about it
>>55291954
Great, so the 480 is shit
>>55291864
>>55291954
$200 = RX480 = ATLEAST 970 tier but with 4.5gb more ram = way better then console tier graphics
Sorry if this upsets you bro
>>55291970
Because running most games at 1080p 60fps is shit.
why are amd fans still going at it
its over
>>55291966
Because AMD explicitely compared their card to the current gen high end, and then did not lift the NDA until launch day to falsely create hype.
AMD keep trying to build budget parts but they always use way too much heat and power to the point where you need to spend extra on a huge cooler or extra fans and a much bigger power supply.
You end up spending the same over all compared to nvidia/intel but getting less performance overall.
That and they build things which look good on paper but in real world it just sucks. Their GPUs are mediocre because of driver issues and their CPUs have terrible single threaded performance, aka the thing that matters most for the typical user.
>>55291998
AMD fans are always going at it, they can't risk the house fire if they stop.
>>55292064
kek
>>55289940
This
I'm still using a 5750, but then again I play at 1366x768. My next card will probably be a GTX 750 the price/performance is amazing
>people think that AMD can compete with Nvidia and Intel at the same time despite having a fraction of the R&D budget of either company
well, I didn't sell my 280x for this, so nothing lost so far. I'll keep waiting to see if prices ever drop enough to make an upgrade worth it.
>>55291934
>7870 = 480
Hurr durr
>>55291954
The PS4 is old, so 200 bucks buys a lot more computing power
>>55292141
If you didn't already sell, just keep your 280x unless power consumption / heat in your room is an issue
>>55292182
it isn't, but I thought even a 970 is significantly more powerful than what I have. Am I wrong?
>>55292189
a 970 and 480 is basically equal to a 290x
>>55292189
About 16% better than 280x
>>55292220
But not a 280x
>>55292189
As a former 280x owner, that card will play anything that's out at 45 - 60FPS at 1080p. If you're playing at 1440p, you want the 1070.
I sold mine for 190USD, but you're not getting the same price at this point. But if you sell quickly you can get maybe 130USD and you can upgrade for a few extra bucks. Probably not worth the trouble
>>55289940
got a 7950 too, waiting for na vi then...
480 is a shrunken 380 which is a rebranded 280 which is a rebranded 7950.
AMD couldn't afford RD costs to develop new architectures.
>>55292263
>>55292263
Sadly this isn't too far from the truth
>>55289840
I was excited
now I'm worried that it'll be a slightly slower 750ti
>>55291983
Yeah Wew lad. A competitor to a high - mid end card 2 years later for only $70-$100 less.
God damn AMD blowing me away with all this ground breaking.
>muh drivers
Drivers are finalized before release so they can be put on the driver CD that ships with the gpu.
Based Kyle was right all along.
>>55292365
>AMD drivers
>finalized anytime within 3 years of release
>>55292355
Considering its not out yet, and there arent reliable reviews of the 480, pretty hard to dismiss it all together, unless you're a pure nvidia fanboi who bows to their top end cards even though the 1080 has been out for a week and still unavailable.
When the real reviews come out, and amd releases a couple drivers, non reference 480 owers are gonna have a bll overclocking it to 980ti territory, and youll have some other generic excause ready for defense
>>55292442
Not to mention this has always been touted as a midrange card capable of VR, Nvidia doesnt have a $200 "VR Ready" gpu
>>55292456
what makes you think the people too poor to pay $400 for a card can afford an HMD
I would say "time to wait for the 1060" but we all know that nvidia will go full jew and make it slower than a 970
>>55292517
It's pretty much guaranteed to be 970 level.
GP104 is 4 GPC, GP106 is 2 GPC. Unless they clock it higher, it'll only perform half as well as the 1080.
A 970 is 55% of a 1080 in performance.
>>55292489
Its easier to spend $200 on the GPU + HMD then 500$ on a GPU + HMD
What makes you think poor people wont save up for VR Headsets? I am and Im poor
>>55292263
IIRC 285 = 380, 480 is new arch supposedly with improved geometry engine
>>55292489
The same reason people can afford iPhones while having literally nothing to eat
>>55292442
>someday the 480 will be able to beat the 970
Such high aspirations
>>55292456
The 970 is $250 right now, actually below $250, and dropping.
>>55292814
NVIDIA will have to price drop to 200 to compete, thanks to the 480
>>55292855
They aren't even making 970s anymore, they will just keep selling until they're gone.
The same is happening with the 390, you can buy it for $250
Both are arguably faster than the 480 at a similar price point
>>55292517
Well yeah, the 1060 will replace the 960. Nvidia wants to sell that card to people who own 960s, so performance will probably just match the 970 at $200.
If these RX 480 benchmarks are real, then I'm pretty sure that's Nvidia's game plan. I mean, this is a company that went out of their way to gimp the SLI capability of the 1070 and 1080 just so they can un-gimp it for the Ti versions.
>>55292814
Where is it $250 and what brand is it? The cheapest I can see is an Asus for $260 on Amazon, but it's a single fan cooler.
>>55292905
There are so many reasons to get the 480 instead of the 390 or 970, accept it. Power consumption, VRAM, price, DX12, etc
>>55292905
>>55292961
Not to mention the high probablility of better performance
>>55292961
The 970 literally has both better power consumption and better performance.
>>55292949
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=186&sort=a8&page=1
3 970s selling for below $250
3 more selling below $260
>>55293012
One of those is also a great EVGA factory overclocked with a great cooler, pretty amazing how far the prices have dropped
>>55292996
No reliable benchmarks for 480 yet, nerd. Your comment about power consumption is wrong as well, considering 480 consumes about 110W and the 970 consumes 250W without an overclock.
You masterbating or what m9?
>>55293072
In the reliable benchmarks we have, the 480 is worse than a 970.
The 970 TDP is 145W, the 480 TDP is 150W
>>55293072
Projecting much?
>>55293094
TDP =/= consumption. AMD uses at a TDP that's higher than consumption, while Nvidia uses one that's slightly lower to look better and save shekels. Google 970 and power consumption and you'll see that it's 200+W
There are no reliable benches, and quite a few of the leaked scores show better performance than 970
>>55291271
Wait for cut Vega 10 (what you're probably implying by saying the 490) since supposedly at the same time, Zen will come out which might be a much better CPU deal than Intel.
>>55293100
I don't reveal my power level except on 4chan, faggot
>>55293176
I don't know what that means, but it sounds like you should do something else with your time.
>>55289927
and double the performance
There are 4 anti-AMD threads created by Nvidia shills right now on /g/ as opposed to 2 neutral AMD and 1 anti-Nvidia.
What is on your mind Nvidia shills? Is a $200 card worrying you that much?
>>55293641
Oh look a new thread to shitpost in
>>55293641
Indeed, just one simple $200 value card the last and only hope against a completely monopolized industry and for some reason it's the worst thing ever and must be shut down immediately. How fucking DARE it even exist.
>>55289940
> this is why nvidia released drivers which broke 680's
>>55293784
It would be nice if AMD actually made a good card, but apparently they thought 2 year old tech was good enough
>>55293977
>14nm
>Lower power usage
>Better FPS with potential extra boost from DX12/Vulkan
>Lower entry cost for first time buyers
OK
Basically this is not an upgrade for Fury owners. Although I might switch anyhow due to being smaller, cooler and potentially a good OC card on AIB third party coolers (will wait for those to come out and see the benchmarks first).
You constantly keep playing the older GPU having the same FPS card when most people will not be upgrading from a 290/390. Upgrading from a 3yo+ card to an older 970 does not make much sense either, Especially for the 4GB model.
>>55294111
The 970 is literally the most popular video card out right now, it is the #1 upgrade target
Unfortunately the 480 can't even beat it, it's a downgrade
>>55294617
>Unfortunately the 480 can't even beat it, it's a downgrade
False, but if by beat you mean 1FPS more in a cherrypicked game, you're still a retard
>>55289495
It's not really damage control it's more of a wake-up call to any idiot who thought this card was going to be anything more than what he said, 390 performance for a better deal. AMD's market has been the bang-for-buck crowd for years.
>>55294895
We have multiple sources now showing the 480 is even weaker than a 970, it's not even a question anymore.
>>55295305
Card isn't even out yet.
Don't take chinky benchmarks and rub them in AMDshitters face since they won't start tearing up since it's unreliable dumb chinky slit-eyed benchmarks.
You have to wait until the card comes out and even the neutral, reliable benchmarks show it to be garbage. Then you get out the tear bucket
>>55295305
I've only seen it handily beating the 970 in DX11 CoD
>>55295335
Well here's another one, things just keep looking worse and worse for the 480
>>55296599
What's ŚREDNIE and BARDZO WYSOKIE?
>>55297517
SREDNIE is bankrupt
BARDZO WYSOKIE is Kyle was right
>>55297517
Srednie = Mid quality
Wysokie = High quality
>>55291898
Consider the following:
>Its the RX 480. Not the 480X
>Its not a 'high end' card. It'll be the third from the top in the 400 series and it costs $199
>Kill yourself
>>55296599
4GB or 8GB edition? 8GB isn't going to shit itself in 4K.
