Why isn't FTTH standard in all first-world countries yet?
It's standard in Sweden.
>>55267189
>Sweden
>First world
Not anymore, famalam.
>>55267184
It's pretty much standard here in New Zealand. Even in the smallish town where I come from it's everywhere.
>>55267209
First/Second/Third world is denoted by it's government style. First being a democracy, without outside influence, which Sweeden has, the US on the other hand, is hand picked by lobbyists, so it's basically a few steps away from China, which is classed as Second World. Third World is a failure of government, which could also apply to the US. But since we live in a post-facts era, fuck it.
Because no one needs more than 25Mbs and FTTN is good enough, after that it's just overkill and muh bragging rights.
>>55267252
>t. Comcast
>>55267184
It doesn't matter if it's Fiber to the Home or Fiber to the Box because the little distance you have to use copper doesn't drop any speed. In fact, if you have a 1000/1000 connection FTTH with no copper, and your neighbor has a 1000/1000 connection FTTH with copper from the box to your house, you'd pretty much get the same speeds.
MoCA and DSL are still just fine for consumers.
FTTH would be nice but big ISP's don't give a fuck, while smaller ones love to run gigabit fiber everywhere.
>mfw this was going to be the original NBN
>got delayed 4 years back in 2006
>got delayed another 4 years in 2013
Fuck this gay earth
>>55267252
Get fucked liberal voter i have 25/5 fixed wireless and its slow as fuck
cant afford 50mbit or faster because its fucking $120-150aud+ a month
>>55267184
Because Australia is still buying copper and fixing it's existing copper network one scotch-lock/plastic bag at a time
>>55267351
>Get fucked liberal voter
Fuck off Labor slave, I'm in Gympie and have FTTN and it's fucking fine and fast enough, I'm not even close to the node and get great speeds.
NBN promised this and delivered, little entitled shits just keep spurging MUR MORE!! and it's never good enough. 25/5 is fine.
>and its slow as fuck
Well don't always point the finger elsewhere I think it's probably your own fault, do you live in the ass end of nowhere? What modem/router do you even have? Some cheapy POS probably.
> fucking $120-150aud+ a month
Not if you go bundle like any smart person would, anyways are you NEET? Those prices seem reasonable for 50 fucking Mbps which is just mental, what do you even need that speed for really?
>>55267249
>First/Second/Third world is denoted by it's government style.
[citation needed]
Other than your arse, I mean.
>>55267441
>>Arse
Britbongs need not apply. You're fourth world.
>>55267464
I'm from Germany you imbecile. And I'm apparently more educated about your fucking political history than you are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-World_Model
>>55267440
>25/5 is fine
FCC classifies 25mbps as the bare minimum speed to be considered "broadband".
>>55267184
Jewish isp don't want to invest here in France.
They wait for the government to do so
>>55267440
>50 Mbps is just mental
That's not even the bitrate of one Blu-ray encode.
>>55267440
I have a 1000 Mbps connection at university and it feels slow
250/20 for 23 usd
poland
>>55267184
>mexico has FTTH
>U HAVE FTTH
QQ Lebanese jew still fucks me on speed and price
1000 up and 1000 down on a firm contract with Bahnhof. My home is right above my office so there were no problems installing the fiber. Costs $10 a month. And this is in Sweden.
>>55267611
Post Speedtest result.
1000/1000mbit internet, 10000/10000 between all on the same ftth.
>>55267477
>>55267249
First world is the western world(US, australia, europe and a few outliers)
Second world is basically brazil, russia, east asia(+india), turkey, iran
Third world countries are the poorfags
>>55267611
>>55267966
I have 1000/1000 for 365 euro per year
It's nice.
>>55268090
Are you with Tweak in Holland ?
>>55268155
Yes.
>>55267249
Except that's wrong, you retard. First world is NATO and it's allies, second world is USSR and it's allies, 3rd world is neutral countries.
>>55267249
>First/Second/Third world is denoted by it's government style.
First/second/third world was denoted by it's allegiance during the cold war.
1st was the NATO + allies, 2nd was the Warsaw Pact + allies, third were the neutral.
Sweden is third world
I just had the cabled laid down.
Waiting for the installlation to be finished
>>55267252
>no one needs more than 25Mbs
I have 150/15 and it's to slow for me, when my roommate is watching Netflix I can barely stream a 1080@60 video
>>55268238
Netflix video is 8mbit max so you're doing it wrong.
>>55268178
Noice, I'm with Ziggo and the only other option is KPN which is worse.
>>55267184
Because it's too expensive and not worth it?
Why isn't Google setting up Gigabit to every home in America and raking in trillions?
Fiber to the node works fine for me.
I have fiber to the house but I prefer my cable ISP.
The NBN is apparently starting work here in September.
Have to get a new Wifi router as I don't think this old Belkin N600 N will support it.
>>55267209
The correct term is 'turd world country'.
See India as an example.
€30 a month (around $33) including phone/cable TV.
>>55268286
Ziggo is pure shit though.
My modem restarts daily for no reason.
>>55268407
it's not too bad, would love tweak with 1 GBIT though for a similar price but I live in limburg and it's just not available over here.
>>55267184
>>55267184
Because it's expensive to deploy even though its maintenance is cheaper than copper in the long run.
In merica its because the isps are allowed to run amok and push competition out of the market
>>55269151
>use case
Who actually speaks this way
>>55269244
if that were the case then isps' like google fiber wouldn't exist
>>55269286
Google fiber is only in veey select cities because of this its much more wxpensive to move into an area under rhe current laws
Why cant you accept that the government has lets the lunatics run the asylum when it comes to internet in america?
>>55267184
Because of capitalism slowing progress.
Australian gubbamint figured in 2013 that this whole internet thing wouldn't catch on, so I'm still on ADSL2+
>>55269318
They were a good 15 years too late for that
>>55269302
Because our internet speeds are fine. Currently have 200mbit. Most of the crap you read is leftists fud.
>>55267249
whats a sweden?
>>55267184
It is, but it takes a while to convert major city centers.
>>55269366
You are speaking to someone whos max speed is 16 mbps dont tell me what is and isnt fud
100/2 here.
pretty much impossible to send shit to work because of terrible upload but otherwise its bretty gud. also costs $120/month. Thanks straya
In America at least, the population is very spread out, compare that to most european countries where everyone lives close together and anyone living in rural areas don't even have internet at all.
In american cities where a large portion of the population lives in the city center, FTTH is available, the same can't be said for suburban areas. In europe, there is a very large gap between city and rural housing, with almost no suburban population.
This is exactly what a Google engineer for the Fiber project told me when I asked when Cleveland was getting fiber.
Is FTTH single-mode or multi-mode fibre?
>>55269184
>It's expensive
Actually it isn't even the initial cost is negligible when replacing the copper line infrastructure.
>>55267252
found the German
>>55269274
Systems Engineers.
But since you are a NEET, that pretty much explains everything.
>>55269385
You probably live in the middle of nowhere so I don't really care what you have to say.
>>55269744
>initial cost is negligible when replacing the copper line infrastructure
Don't they need to put a big utility box in your front yard when they install FttH? I mean, I've seen stats saying it costs thousands of dollars and the ISP usually eats a lot of that cost to recoup over the next decade.
>>55267209
Well, Sweden was never First World.
It's Third World because it is (was?) neutral.
>>55267440
>>55267252
>>55267252
Found the Australian.
>>55269717 (Me)
Anyone?
>>55268238
Are you both using wifi? If so I completely believe you, but the fault is with the wireless and not with your WAN connection. You could upgrade even to gigabit without improving this. Solve your congestion or run ethernet.
>>55268300
Regulations, mostly. Utility companies in the US have a huge amount of power and are desperate to keep their near-monopoly.
>>55267440
>50 fucking Mbps is 'just mental'
>I have 110 Mbps and it still feels slow
Wow, poor much?
>>55273124
110 Mbit shouldn't really feel slow. Is that an actual measured result? What's your upstream and what are your ping and jitter values?
>>55268238
So much bull. I have 6/1 (yes, that is correct) and we stream Netflix, play Overwatch and download from Steam - no issues at all.
Learn to manage your network properly to fucking dweeb.
I have cable and I pay $50 for this only.
It's a steal but I still want gigabit fiber.
>>55274116
>17mbps upload
This disgusts me.
>>55274136
What do you expect out of docsis
>>55274155
Way better because it's capable of it.
>>55274172
Let me rephrase that
What do you expect out of a residential deployment of docsis
>>55267184
Because it costs money to upgrade connections, and telecommunications companies are among the most jewish companies that exist.
I've got 100 Mbps, it's good enough for me.
>>55269770
I live 10 miles north of Seattle.
>>55274307
Snohomish county?
>>55274232
Better. Cable telcos need to step it the fuck up. Docsis 3 will do 27Mbps upstream on a single channel, but you can't even offer me 50/50 with 4? Come on.
>>55274333
Daily reminder that this speed is the highest offered on a 20 channel modem
>>55267189
>sweden
>cuck country of the sjw and lefts
>first world
I'm currently on 3/0.4 ADSL (rural UK). There's a supposed FTTH rollout happening which will mean 300/30. Trying not to get my hopes up because it's far from guaranteed.
>>55274360
I don't really see what you're trying to say with it.
>>55267464
I'm currently on a Sky technical trial for FTTH since BT Openreach let them use their ducts and put up new poles in the street. Still haven't hit gigabit speeds yet but have reached 500 MB/s. Best of all it's completely detached from the BT Network. It's only a 6 month trial but I hope it carries on afterwards.
