Hey /g/uys -
lets start a Vintage Computing General! Havent seen one in a while - What are you guys maintaining? i am currently working on getting 17 macintosh plus/SE/Classic II's.
>>55226944
>>55226944
>>55226944
Might sell this machine soon
>have XT clone baord
>got a 16-bit graphics card which is supposed to be compatible
>could build an XTIDE
>could probably mod a keayboard to be XT compatible
>not sure about floppy and IO controller card
Should I do it?
>>55226944
>>55226958
>>55227035
>>55227697
ebin
>>55227777
Nice quads.
but >>55227697 is XT clone not Apple
>>55227764
Modding a keyboard to be XT compatible is harder than it sounds, the keyboard controller itself is part of the system. Even a few years newer PC AT keyboards don't work with the XT.
>>55227764
eBay, you can find all of those for cheap.
Also, just look at local ad's selling old crap, you can find lots of old ISA cards and peripherals or even old computers.
>>55227697
What kind of resolution is that?
>>55227827
The keyboard seems to have the XT/AT switch, but it's soldered into the AT position. Also I heard that some later XT clone Bios have AT keyboard support, this board has an amibios
>>55227837
Most of the cards are 16 bit, I need 8bit ones for this machine.
>>55227697
What is that? I remember a computer from that brand being in my attic, who the fuck were they?
>>55227777
sick digits
Is this worth picking up at around 70 $
286
1MB ram
40mb hard drive
what are some fun things I can do with a 286 of this specifications, are there any games for this thing ?
Also the monitor is color so its a CGA monitor ?
>>55227895
also forgot
the motherbard is a ast research premium 286
the keyboard is a Typro does it look like a mechanical one ??
>>55227853
>What kind of resolution is that?
132x44 EGA text mode
>>55227876
Rebranded Hyundary XT clones.
Made in 86'
>>55227853
There are a lot of 16 bit cards that work with 8 bit sockets (but not IDE adapters or PnP cards) also looking on ebay for "8bit isa" theres a lot of stuff.
>>55227895
>>55227917
It worth it I think, having keyboard, mouse and monitor.
CGA or EGA both are colors, looking at the monitor it's probably not VGA.
A lot of old DOS games would work on that machine.
There where more types on keyboards back then than just mechanical or rubber dome, hard to tell because sometimes almost same model keyboard could have used totally different mechanics.
If you like to tinker with old computer then get it, if you think it's boring then don't.
>have 286 PC
>heard that you can use a sound blaster 16 vibra in it even if you only have an 8bit slot
>plugged it in
>hard drive (seagate IDE 45MB) now makes weird clicking noises and has problems reading random sectors
>removing the sound card did not help so I had to upgrade the HDD to an 1GB one
>BIOS does not allow custom HDDs so I can only use a small amount and it gives me an error at every boot now
FUCK
How well do CF to IDE adapters work?
>>55227971
You probably had the same IRQ for the Vibra and Hard Drive controller, always check things like that.
Nothing helped the old drive? Not even fdisk and formatting? Is the HD controller on the motherboard or on a card?
New 8bit CF card adapters work fine or get someone to burn a new BIOS for you, then you can use normal CF cards directly on the board too.
>>55227932
>Rebranded Hyundary XT clones.
Neat. How well does it work? I never got to use mine because it had no disks.
>>55228018
It's a 512K machine with a 8088 at 4.77MHz and MDA/Hercules graphics and 20MB HDD.
It does exactly like the specs would tell you, like a stock PC-XT.
I have a NEC V20 and math co processor in mine with a EGA video card and Ethernet LAN.
>>55228016
I have not tried anything with the HDD after that, was too afraid that it could just die
The controller is onboard and the machine needs a completely nonstandard BIOS, It's a "Schneider Euro AT"
>>55228114
Are you sure a standard BIOS wont work? I have thought that too and been surprised.
Then you need a modded BIOS or a IDE controller card, also a custom BIOS on a NIC ethernet card for example could even work, just adding the code for the IDE controller to recognize bigger drives.
They make new cheap IDE controller cards (also CF cards, which are cheaper) you can assemble yourself, with custom BIOS, google it.
>>55226944
>>55228114
Old HHD in new computer.
>>55228270
Kek, I used a Pentium 3 with a Hercules graphics card and monochrome monitor just for the kicks, worked fine.
Ran Windows 95 with Win3 Hercules driver, 98 could have possible worked too.
>>55228314
>>55228270
It's a Seagate ST157A and is even recognized as such by this BIOS made 20 years later. I will now try to access and backup/format it with a Linux LiveUSB.
>>55228493
Yeah, I don't even wonder that the BIOS recognized it wonder, our correct tech is full of legacy shit.
I guess it's really dead
How do I convince my 286 BIOS that a cf adapter matches one of the default HDDs?
>>55228672
You're stuck with a small size CF card then, the maximum your controller and BIOS support or
>either a CF adapter ISA card
or
>IDE ISA card
or
>original IDE controller with BIOS that supports it
>>55228672
Also, ddrescue might work if you want to get information off it.
>>55228764
Nothing really important on it
>>55228746
I could use a 64MB or 128MB CF, but I'm not sure if they match any of the types in the BIOS.
>>55228849
Guess you have to try, find out how much cylinders the old drive has and make just one partition with the same amount on the CF card, you will get the same size as the HD but at least it should work.
>>55228894
Or just format the CF card with the information here >>55228270
I've got two commodore 64's and a 1702 monitor.
One c64 is a 82, while the second one is an 84.
Thing that sucks is the 82 is in great shape but only does composite while the 84 does commodore video (chroma luma etc) but is in shit shape.
Wish there was a way to pull the video circuit out of the 84 and put it in the 82.
>>55229036
aren't the boards and cases compatible with each other
>>55227697
>>55226944
>lets start a Vintage Computing General
pls no I don't want a repeat of /retro/
at least call it a thread
nice haul anyway though, still use my Mac Plus with HD20 sometimes to run MS works and monochrome games, pretty fun little boxes
working on these now. the left keyboard was made for a 5251, and I need to fool the 3101 into booting with it. just gives a keyboard error.
>>55230626
Is that a coax terminal or RS-232?
I kind of wish I picked up a 3270 controller system when I had a chance
>>55230642
RS232 terminal. the right Displaywriter is a lot more of a proto-PC.
I managed to rig up the Burroughs monitor on it, but really want to find an original one of those too.
>>55230677
Oh yeah, I remember you.
Fuck, I think I have one of those DisplayWriter monitors, with a single DB-15 if I remember, that or it went to a 3270 compatible.
>>55230909
the DB15 is exactly what I'm lookin for. do you have pictures of the front/back? I can tell which it is from those
>>55226944
My C64 setup at work is pretty much complete.
>>55230051
>>55227697
what hi res video card is this? a serial terminal?
>>55230977
As I already mentioned, its a EGA card with a MDA monitor on a XT clone.
Normal 132x44 EGA monochrome text, nothing special.
>>55230946
It's absolutely buried in the garage right now, unfortunately. As I clean up I'll try to unearth it for a future thread, no promises though. ;_;
Don't even know if it works, I pulled it out of a pawn shop with a bunch of other terminals.
>>55230977
MDA nigga, that was its advantage over the color options.
What can you do on these other than games?
I'd love to get some old computers some day but I'd want to actually have something to do on them for shits and giggles.
>>55231044
I have a bit of CRT repair exp, so that's ok. look forward to seeing it
Just watched this, i wish there was more information in english about old soviet systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DEuANZr4Ns
>>55231044
You can run that mode on most CGA/EGA monitors too, it will just be monochrome.
Actually it's more of a kink of the graphics card then the monitor.
Many EGA card's don't support it. This one can also emulate Hercules on a CGA/EGA monitor.
>>55230970
At work?!
>>55231494
Yes, at work.
One of our meeting rooms needed a bit of decoration.
>>55231512
Kek, awesome.
>>55231988
Nice
>>55232061
Indeed
This one even has a 8088 clone
Old pic of my setup, I've gotten alot more since then
Wow check out this piece of vintage hardware.
>>55232083
>>55232101
This makes my dick hard.
>>55232101
Man, looking at that, so much stuff I have owned from that picture that I don't have anymore, sad.
>>55232161
Wooow, nice dude.
Do they even exist anymore? Didn't they go bankrupt like in 2019 when AMD uncovered their killer GPU?
>>55232101
Check if any of those laptops have an internal "memory backup" battery. That one leaked and destroyed my Toshiba Satellite.
>>55230970
two buttons on a controller? what the fuck can you do with two buttons?!
>>55232960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQajuuX6mM
My idea to properly shit and hate on "vintage" ("non-working plastic with dead electronics inside" club)
basically compare it to stancefagging in a video
>stance meet
>"shit bro u low as fuq"
>"yup sure am fucked up my own suspension to lose that extra inch"
>"shiiiiit bro wut u do with it"
>(it's stanced, you can't race, drift, or do shit with it, can't even leave your own driveway)
>"get mad pussy with it m8"
>"bro u scrapin hard bro lets see it"
>gets stuck on parking lot exit
>floors it and goes nowhere
>"OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
>they lift him off
>video continues as it focuses on him driving down the street and gets stuck again
>camera pans to tuner who sadly showed up as they all turn to look
>"...FUCK OFF POSER!!!!"
>cuts to same lot and shows piece of shit 80s garbage on rimz and super low to the ground with a small group of fat people wearing extra long caps and ironic 90s clothes
>"whered u find that shit bro"
>"behind a dumpster dude"
>"oh shit niiiiiiice wut u do with it"
>"not much just look at it since it can't have really done anything for 30 years"
>"siiiiiiiiiiiick"
>plug in a new AC adapter
>pushes power button, works for 5 seconds before turning off
>"OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!"
>everyone turns to see somebody who showed up with a 10 year old C2D thinkpad that still works
>"...FUCK OFF POSER!!!!!!"
>>55233064
This, I can't believe why people on here don't just get over their nostalgiafagging. If they really need to fill their shitty void, why won't they just get a XPS 13 instead?
>>55233090
Hey man, I'm not complaining though. I sell broken piles of trash and putting "RETRO AND VINTAGE" on the title and it multiplies the price by 5X. These dumbasses don't even care if the piece of shit works, they only care about taking photos and showing off to people they don't even know. Talk about pathetic.
Also, yes, the XPS 13 is a very good laptop.
>>55233064
That's quite a bit of autism for one post anon
>>55233064
I think you've confused gaymer aesthetic with classic collectors. Autism/10
>>55233064
>>55233090
>>55233118
>>55233142
I hate people who buy old hardware to box it up to never see the light of day in a stupid collection.
I like to tinker, make it work again, use it.
Also, this
>>55233123
>>55233224
we get it, you heff condishun
>>55233231
Some people just like hardware and technology, no matter the age. :^)
>>55233231
Can you try that again in English?
>>55233118
Do thinks like that really work?
I have been handling older hardware for ages and never seen people actually giving a fuck about those ebay selling with titles like
>OLD VINTAGE COMPUTER, VERY RARE, VERY COOL
Usually the faggots who make pictures only buy hardware what's really cheap, like if they happen to find something for a few bucks what's old, they are the ones who don't actually know or care better.
>>55226944
Forgive the mess, was redecorating when I took this.
This bad boy(the crt) does 1600x1200 at 75hz. The Korean IPS looks nicer, but there's just something comfy about the crt.
>>55233268
Not him, but most of my customers are baby boomer types. I usually keep the better condition shit in my collection and sell off the bad condition and non working stuff to fuel this retro addiction.
>>55233297
Same, but it's not some secret gold hole.
>>55233305
Yeah, that cunt is just an idiot and the xps remark at the end is very suspicious.
>>55226944
>17 macintosh plus/SE/Classic II's.
If the Video goes south, trash it, or make it into a fish tank. recover the ram, and use it in another machine.
The Pluses will take 256k and 1Mb, the Classic II will only take 1MB and 4MB, but its limited to 10MB total, NOT 12MB.
The SE/30 is the king of these machines. I will take 256k, 1MB, 4MB, and 16MB, and has 8 slots!
The Classic IIs and the SE/30 are the only ADB machines.
I used to have a book on repairing the Plus analog boards, but its long gone.
Have fun, and rock on
>>55227895
>Is this worth picking up at around 70 $
Oh HELL NO. Its a 286! So even a IBM AT is only worth at most $50 in perfect condition, so that is worth only $10~$15
>>55233318
You will take 1MB boards? I have a few if you want.
>>55233327
Where do you live?
>>55230626
Please be very kind to your museum pieces. They are extraordinarily rare.
>>55233327
An AT keyboard in perfect condition alone is over 40$.
You will never see one for cheaper in ebay and sadly price is set by the market, you can't go and say I'll buy an AT for 50 bucks! Nobody will sell you one for the price if people are ready to buy one for 300$.
>>55233337
I live in Oakland California.
I very sadly have no need for 30pin 1MB simms, except my friend has a SE that he has never turned on... so I dont know the ram configuration. :(
I got him an ADB Keyboard, and an ADB mouse.
Hold on to that ram, its small, and will go up in value, slowly... but the historical significance is important
>>55233380
I do have a 1MB expansion for Classic, but i only said it because you said
>I will take 256k, 1MB, 4MB, and 16MB, and has 8 slots!
Kek
>>55233370
>Nobody will sell you one for the price if people are ready to buy one for 300$.
"Vintage Original IBM Personal Computer AT Model F 84 Key Clicky Keyboard
$129.99 "
new listing... are you in the business or ...
>>55233413
Talking about an AT for 300, not an AT keyboard.
The 40$ talk was about the keyboard.
>>55233406
>I do have a 1MB expansion for Classic, but i only said it because you said
A Classic, is a 68000, a Classic II is a 68030, and a SE/30 is a 68030 and can take a 68881/68882 FPU. My nick name was MR FX.
>>55233427
Yup, I know.
>>55233427
>I do have a 1MB expansion for Classic
" *For more than the 1 MB of onboard RAM, a Classic-specific "Memory Expansion Card" is required. This expansion card has an additional 1 MB onboard and two SIMM slots for memory expansion."
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_classic/specs/mac_classic.html
A use for your 30 pin simms from those Apple Macintosh Pluses...
>>55233327
That doesn't look like any old shitty 286 though, especially with that FH MFM drive.
Still with you though, but I'd pay $40 for it.
>>55233696
>FH MFM drive.
If its a 20MB, it maybe a 615 Cyl that is actually a 640!
>>55227895
The fuck even is that? Some Yugoslavian clone? I'd pay $70 for that stateside, dunno about there though, if you'd get some fun and a learning experience out of it, why not? $70 isn't much.
>what are some fun things I can do with a 286 of this specifications, are there any games for this thing ?
There's a fucking ton of games and other applications that will run on a 286, so there's no worry there, at least as long as it's fully compatible.
>Also the monitor is color so its a CGA monitor ?
God knows, most systems of that class and age (by the look of it) would have been EGA at least, but since it looks like a commie clone it could be CGA.
Bump
Compact Macs are cute. Cute!
>>55233696
>>55233327
If you don't want it and won't pay 70$ for it, someone else will, it's as simple as that.
If you want it, you're going to pay, the question was if it's worth 70$ for what it can do, if you're not interested in that era computers it's not.
>>55238258
And useless, don't forget useless.
>>55238269
He only asked if we thought it was worth $70, we didn't agree. The 286 is a brain-dead chip, and while it's capable in context, on numbers alone the system is a little anemic for the average retrocomputing novice.
And while it looks like a pretty damn rare piece of high-end Yugoslavian kit, I can't imagine it's worth even that much in its homeland where most people seem to be pretty critical of the commie-era tech they grew up with. I'd pay $70 for one here, probably not over there. It's a very niche collector's piece in general.
>>55238285
Not at all, there's tons of great monochrome software for those things, I think I could survive on a Plus if I really had to.
Picked this up the other day. I really don't want to recap the motherboard but that's what it looks like it needs at this point.
>>55238383
What makes you think he lives in Yugoslavia or somewhere close?
Also ex-USSR countries very much value the old technology and is seeked after, with stupid prices, the clone hardware is even more rare on the local market than the actual systems they are cloning.
But I agree, if he's a novice and/or has no real interest, it's an useless investment.
>>55238437
Clean your room.
Then recap the motherfucker.
>>55238408
Amiga can virtualize it (not emulate) and run faster than any actual 68k Macintosh, being a machine of the same time period. Kek.
>>55238437
I think there are still guys on 68kMLA that do recapping services if it's worth bothering to you.
>>55238459
The filename and overall aesthetic of the system seem to lead to that conclusion.
>>55238506
If I'm going to miss the point that much, why the fuck would I pay out the ass for an Amiga when literally any PC or PPC Mac made in the last 20 years can do that instead?
>>55238471
I might just do it. The IIsi on the top needs some caps as well as the LC III on the side.
>>55238555
Why get a Classic when you can get a PPC Mac then?
Didn't you say something about lots of monochrome software?
>>55238555
>The filename and overall aesthetic of the system seem to lead to that conclusion.
Those systems where used all over the USSR, manufactured in Yugoslavia does not mean they are all located there.
>sigh
>>55238639
Why waste space on any old shit whatsoever when C2D hardware can emulate all of it for pennies much faster than the original hardware ever could?
You're missing the point.
>>55238658
But is it an imported USSR system? Tell me more about it, then, I assume the photo he posted was from an ad and the filename seems to be in Slovenian.
>>55238703
>You're missing the point.
But then you are emulating the system.
Which is much more missing the point.
>>55238703
I didn't say it's an imported system, I said they are all over the ex-USSR area.
found this gem at work in old storage room unused for ~30 years
gonna take it home next week and clean it
>>55238830
Really nice, hope you find a replacement key for X!
>>55238734
And that's ultimately different from virtualization how? Buying an Amiga just to virtualize System 6 sounds no different from buying a new PC or PPC Mac and running Mini vMac on it, except the latter isn't totally pointless and a waste of money.
>>55238783
But still you've told me nothing about it, you've piqued my interest and seem to imply that you know what you're talking about, what /is/ it? It doesn't look like anything I've seen in Sergei Frolov's museum.
>>55238881
>Virtualizing 68k on 68k is worse
>then emulating 68k on PPC ??
>also today's 68k chips run faster then a PPC can even emulate them.
>Not virtualizing PPC Mac on a PPC Amiga with both PPC and 68k chips
>Still can virtualize 68k Mac and PPC Mac at the same time! While multitasking AmigaOS.
>Still can run all that 68k Mac monochrome software without emulation.
>A Amiga is actually cheaper than any Classic or older PPC Mac.
The only valid point you could have is that if you want the real Mac hardware feel.
Not running 68k monochrome Mac software on a non-emulated System 6 faster than any Mac.
I've got an SE but I don't know what to do with it. It appears to work fine but I really have no idea since I can't find a floppy disk and a working drive to put Mac OS on it.
>>55238955
Amigas go for blood compared to a PPC or Classic.
>>55239116
I usually see them for 5-30 bucks on local ad's, dunno.
>>55238955
>>also today's 68k chips run faster then a PPC can even emulate them.
Have fun finding an accelerator with one of those fabled chips cheaply, and that you don't have to build yourself. Besides, it's unlikely to be even worth it.
>>Still can virtualize 68k Mac and PPC Mac at the same time! While multitasking AmigaOS.
If I gave a shit about having "superior" operating system I would run A/UX on a Quadra, MAE on a SPARCStation 20 or HP 9000/7XX workstation, or just use a modern PC or Mac that blows them all out readily.
>>Still can run all that 68k Mac monochrome software without emulation.
If all I'm interested in is running the software, I don't give a fuck whether it's running on a 68000 or a PDP-11. Retrocomputing is hardware-centric, it's about tinkering, it's about having fun and experiencing history, and besides all that, there's more to 100% Macintosh compatibility than just having the same CPU architecture.
>>A Amiga is actually cheaper than any Classic or older PPC Mac.
No, god no, what the fuck? I paid $15 for my Plus with keyboard/mouse, HD20 and a carrying bag. The typical price of even a piece of shit Amiga would be at least ten times that, not including the accelerators and other expansions you would need to pay out the ass for to get it up to spec and matching even a low-end Mac from the same period, and if I'm going to pay out the ass that much, I'd rather buy one of the aforementioned workstations and enjoy a system that can do more than emulate another system while running 20 Juggler instances in the background.
>The only valid point you could have is that if you want the real Mac hardware feel.
And that's really enough in itself, compacts are very iconic, and very practical especially as beginner systems thanks to their small footprint, their display quality is also fucking excellent, I'd rather stare at one of those than AmigaOS any day of the week.
>>55239385
Did you really just write all that?
>>55238955
the autism of amigatards astounds me more and more with every post
>>55239478
I don't actually own an Amiga, it's just fun to shitpost.
My knowledge is purely from forums and internet.
>>55239459
>oh shit I ran out of bullshit counterpoints
Good. Run along back to your BBS.
>>55239514
Nah, by all facts, an 68k Amiga would be the best and fastest hardware platform to run 68k Mac OS on.
Don't really care what you think.
>>55239506
>i was only pretending xd
lmao
whatever helps you sleep at night
>>55239538
I don't sleep at night, I waste my life shitposting with faggots like you.
Sigh, seriously.
>>55239558
and yet you're still here
>>55239581
If I don't sleep and waste my time shitposting, then where else would I be?
Guess logic is rare these days on /g/
>>55239595
reddit or >>>/vr/
you're right though, there's probably no sane community that can tolerate amigatard reality distortion fields for long
>>55239619
I don't really know any amigafags, only one actually.
It is astonishing that it has a community so big and still dedicated on releasing new hardware and software.
Specially because most classic Mac, Atari, Amstrad, Spectrum, etc, etc communities are all almost dead.
Never figured out why, the machine was ahead of it's time back then, but it ain't anymore...
Mystery...
>>55233696
>FH MFM drive
one of the big reasons I want it is because it has a 5 and quarter inch hard drive and seller says the computer is fully functional
definitely gonna have a look inside before parchusing
>>55239532
>by all the facts I've pulled out of my ass
Amigas were shit, get over it. The 600 and 1200 (read: the only actually obtainable and affordable, useful models) were trashy shitboxes, with lobotomized 68020s released at a time when even the low-end of almost every other 68k hardware vendor featured full '030s, the only thing that saved them was the operating system, niche hardware like the Toaster, and the fanbase, and even then the OS was nothing special compared to real workstations and other high-performance gear.
Even the high-end Amiga 4000 shipped with a fucking 68EC030 or, if you were lucky, last year's (or three years ago depending on when you bought it) 25 MHz 68040.
>>55239652
>Specially because most classic Mac, Atari, Amstrad, Spectrum, etc, etc communities are all almost dead.
Not even, there are a fucking ton of forums and sites for pretty much all of those, the difference is that their fanbases aren't unhealthily obsessed with keeping their platforms "current" (what a stretch, the garbage they still stick in Amiga-branded hardware is incredible), they simply enjoy what they have, and develop as much as they need to keep it going and interesting.
>>55239901
The cheap components like the 68EC* where it's main selling point, it's price was freaking low.
If you wanted more you could get a acceleration board, back in the day they didn't cost millions.
Average tard didn't need one to play games that only Arcade machines could match back then.
>>55239901
>stop liking what I don't like
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.jpg
never change /g/
never change
Made in Taiwan but has a Russian chip.
>>55240148
you don't have to think a given platform is the best thing on earth to like it and enjoy it you know
amigas WERE shit, they had to be to make them cheap enough, doesn't mean they weren't still cool pieces of computing history
>>55240474
soviet KP580, an intel 8080 clone that had a high number of defects
>>55232161
Kek I had that card till recently
>>55240474
American components, Russian components, all made in Taiwan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh78GiTqrE
>>55240556
Is that even supposed to be there?
>>55240520
They weren't more shit or less shit than any other platform of the time with the same chip like Atari ST or Macintosh Classic.
>>55227895
Why would you pay that for it?
I bought a Sun Ultra 60 and a blade 100 with a big box of documentation for $40 a few years back.
>>55230626
THICC
>>55240613
BAHAHAHA
>>55233305
It all depends on your access to this garbage. Businesses keep this bullshit on palettes in a storage room then drop it off at recycling centers or thrift stores. Happens all the time. I still consider it gold when nobody but you knows the secret psuedo value of thrift store garbage. There was this guy who got his hands on this video game company's garbage, they made N64 games and they left a box full of the carts but printed and burned on BLACK carts instead of gray (big fucking deal) and N64 collector shits paid $80 a pop and they were all gone.
Forget 40 years ago, GC/Xbox/ps2 games are starting to rise in value. Just sold my entire GameCube collection for over $700, it's worth so much thanks to retards like this. I've seen people put up just a GC and one controller for $200 on eBay and say "PROFESSIONALLY RESTORED". Go find a GC in a thirft store for $20, clean the plastic up, and you've gotten 1000% back on your hipster investment.
I'm still on an S3, its 4 years old, in 5 more years it'll be time to make the listing. "EXTREMELY RARE SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 VINTAGE RETRO PHONE".
>>55241066
Nah, maybe on a rare occasion you can actually make good profit out of this.
Usually it's junk prise for a few quid, maybe it's more valuable in the US, maybe there's just more retrotards like that there, but in EU you can find old shit for cheap everywhere, nobody is going to pay top dollar for it.
>>55240713
that's definitely true for the Amiga 1000, not so much for the later ones, the Amiga 2000 lagged behind the Mac II on the CPU front and while it supported more colors, it also did so at a lower resolution, but I still think you could make an argument for the 2000's audio capabilities, pre-System 7 Macs always felt really half-assed on that front
the 3000 introduced a real 68030, but even that was already last year's old news, and already outclassed by much faster 68030 systems like the IIfx that also had much better color capabilities
the 4000 was nice, introduced a 25 MHz 68040 that was again old news, Quadras were clocking those at 33 and 40 MHz by then and low-end Quadras with the FPU-less but otherwise identical 68LC040 were far cheaper, then for some reason they added a 68EC030 option for them later on when even the biggest shitboxes in the industry were running a minimum full '030
in the low-end they did better, the Amiga 500 was pretty competitive against a Plus or even an SE, the 600 was a more reasonable purchase for an entertainment-focused home user than a classic, but as time dragged on, they really didn't cut it, the 1200 was a fucking joke from a hardware perspective with its ancient gimped '020, especially when you could get a 68040 system for only a couple hundred dollars more
>>55241066
nobody wants to read your dumb blog justin
>>>/vr/
>>55241242
Ebenezer I can't go to vr since I emulate, its even worse since they are buying overpriced flashcarts... which were all produced... and didn't have to age. Hm, I wonder if you can fake retroshit hardware. Like slap a p4 in there and say it was their super rare over clocked workstation model.
>>55241344
0/10
Try harder next time.
>>55241344
who gives a fuck, go back there anyway, you belong there with all the other retrogaymer hipsters
>>>/vr/
>>55242602
This is so out of date and lacks so many slots, buses, sockets, ports... it's not even funny.
>>55242679
Not him but I want to modernize it, I don't even know where to begin to start though.
>>55242781
Wikipedia..
>List of CPU sockets...
>List of computer buses
>List of...
Etc etc
>>55240775
at first he was asking 110$ I talked him down to something about 70$
It is the only vintage computer for sale at this momment and they are very rare here in Southern Europe anyway, only a feware sold thru the year
and maybe cause im a bit nostalgic
>>55241242
Man this reminds me so much of how things are still today...
>could get a 68040 system for only a couple hundred dollars more
It's like the same why people buy AMD if they could get a better Intel CPU for a few hundred bucks more, or Nvidia GPU...
>>55241242
It was mostly not only about the CPU, the chipset was the real diamond of Amiga.
>>55239901
>Not even, there are a fucking ton of forums and sites for pretty much all of those, the difference is that their >fan bases aren't unhealthily obsessed with keeping their platforms "current" (what a stretch, the garbage they >still stick in Amiga-branded hardware is incredible), they simply enjoy what they have, and develop as much as >they need to keep it going and interesting.
How is it unhealthy? It's not.
That's the difference, Amiga community is bigger and more alive, that's why it seems "unhealthy" to someone like a classic Mac enthusiast.
>>55243934
If it's worth it to you, go for it, it's not like $70 is a ton.
>bunch of Sun Microsystems systems
>EMac, two Xserves, and a G4
>Old CRT test equipment
I picked up of stuff from a guy on here in NJ a while ago, if you're here, and want to sell shit , hit me up
>>55246254
you're right in that it isn't quite fair to solely focus on the CPU, since Amigas were always entertainment-focused, still the later systems just don't impress me as much
one day I'd like to get my hands on a 3000 (especially one of the Unix models) or a 4000, even a 1200 and see it for myself, but for the time being, the on-paper info just doesn't move me in the way that it seems to move the Amiga memesters
>>55247076
more overpriced hardware projects and a vocal minority of obsessed sheep that won't shut the fuck up about them != a "bigger and more alive" community
the platform simply didn't sell well enough outside of Europe to garner that kind of interest
>>55247560
>the platform simply didn't sell well enough outside of Europe to garner that kind of interest
'Murifags acting like eurofags ain't people
>>55247560
the Amiga UNIX is meh
I was never quite happy with it
the original OS is quite OK especially with a lot of ports of various tools and great CLI
>>55247625
don't get me wrong, Europe maybe wasn't as profitable and huge as the American market, but it wasn't anything to shit on
however there were platforms like PCs and the C64/128 that spanned both continents, with a much larger audience
>>55247776
can't say I doubt it, niche Unixes like that tend to age like shit, the regular OS sounds okay too though, at least the later versions under Commodore, that horrifying color scheme and overall layout of the earlier versions gives me autism even if you can modify it
>>55238506
And Amigas are butt ugly.
>>55238623
Those 63x machines are cool, but weigh a ton.
>>55248175
Both are fine looking machines
>>55248175
>>55248227
>>55248242
>keyboard all-in-ones
>serif branding
somewhere out there drake's heart just skipped a beat
>>55248242
Kek, coping atari st
>>55233064
That Q45 would be pretty sweet if it didnt have that fucking retarded camber.
>>55247896
In gaming the 8bit and 16bit era in Europe was all about Spectrums, Amigas, Ataris, etc.
While in the US it was NES, SNES, Genesis, etc.
>>55247560
>>55247076
The Amiga community is like that because the Amiga was the last machine to be more advanced then anything that came before it but in the same time last of the well documented, open and understandable for the average techie.
Building this beauty, the ECB KISS-68030.
It's a 68030 (obviously) which can run Linux and CP/M-68.
Further building the ECB Z180 Mark IV which has a Z180 (again obviously) which can run every CP/M-Z80 software and Fuzix. Unix like OS for vintage and retro systems.
The retrobrew computers community is very nice if you want to build such retro style computers.
https://retrobrewcomputers.org/
>>55240647
Taiwan was always weird, probably they had a shortage of Intel chips or this was for a specific country which they could not export American technology too.
