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Recommended models:
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>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
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Thinkpads are shit
Stop being poor and get a surface pro
My t530 is making weird electrical noises, like a pulsating sound. One anon said it was a faulty capacitor, so I started taking apart me thinkpad and some of the screws are stuck. I asked some guys and they said that I can cut it off, which doesn't seem to be viable. I also can heat the screw up as it's in the thinkpad. What do?
Hello guys, I need a laptop that I can take around with me to different places.
Looking with something with good battery life, and fairly light.
I am also going to be using in bed before I go to sleep.
What do you guys recommend?
>>55178195
X230 with X220 keyboard
>>55178235
Not into that tablet shit.
>>55178262
The X230 is not a tablet.
The X230T is a tablet.
I've been looking at getting a x220t, but the fucking screen is 12 inch. Is there a decent 15 inch touch screen dankpad?
I'm looking at this Thinkpad T440s on ebay:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-i7-4600U-8GB-512GB-SSD-IPS-FHD-1920x1080-type-20AR-001AUS-/282072347233?hash=item41acd27261:g:Z1wAAOSwgApW~x7~
Is this a pretty good deal? The guide says I should be expecting around 400 dollars, so I'm not sure if I should entirely trust this.
>>55178262
So don't get a tablet model.
>>55178295
It's bidding, which is why it's lower. Bidding will go up within the day that's left.
Make sure to pick up a T450 trackpad so you don't cuck yourself
>>55178296
>>55178285
Okay, okay. How good is SoT? Also, what prices should I be looking for?
>>55178295
The guide seems a little outdated, as least for X series prices. I would stay below $350, but the newest T I've bought was a 420 and I have no interest in the newer models, so I'm not sure.
>>55178335
With the 9-cell, 10 hours of web browsing, though if you watch video it'll be a few hours less
If you want more battery you can get a battery slice that goes on the bottom of the laptop
>>55178387
Wouldn't I have to but another battery? What is the stock battery?
Still don't know what Thinkpad to get the X1 Carbon, X220, and X230 all look pretty good.
>>55178333
Sorry, it looks like I just couldn't read.
By the way, do you mean to buy a separate T450 trackpad and put it on myself? Is the T440 trackpad not satisfactory? I'm just afraid to break it as the only computer modification I have done is adding an SSD to a desktop.
Is the x230 noticeably faster than the x220?
Is it worth getting an x220 for dat keyboard at the cost of reduced performance?
Is a x220 with an i5, 4gb of ram, and 320gb hdd worth it for 135 bucks?
Just got a t520, sans battery, hard drive, ram door, and wifi chip for $50, tell me what I did wrong and cuss me out.
>>55178501
With i5, 8GB ram, and SSD, no need to worry about performance.
>>55178501
No.
Yes.
>>55178555
Yes, if it is in decent condition.
>T420
>3.2GHZ sandyvag dual core
>1ghz hd3000 igp
>1366x768 100% pure unadulterated eyecancer
>Surface Pro
>2.6ghz ivybridge
>1ghz hd4000 igp
>1080p
>http://ark.intel.com/products/65707/Intel-Core-i5-3317U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_60-GHz
>http://ark.intel.com/products/52229/Intel-Core-i5-2520M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz
Which one will be better at gaming? It's for a kid and he'll be playing tf2.
I'm thinking the tp might get more perf because of the lower native res.
>>55178595
Thinkpads arent made for gaming kids
>>55178618
I know, but I need something to keep him distracted.
anyone here use a 12 inch (x220,x230 etc) thinkpad for reading PDFs and writing documents etc? I'm worried it might be too small.
>>55178595
If you are only playing tf2, you might as well get the surface pro because the T420's screen is, as you mentioned, not that great.
>>55178628
Why? Why not get him a console?
>>55177962
if it's spinning freely but not coming out, pull it out with pliers
if it's not turning, make sure you are turning it counter clockwise bro
>>55178195
I carry my t420 to college every day. It's pretty light.
>I'm not a pussy though.
>>55178632
It's perfect for me, but my friend needs 14" to feel comfy. The backspace is kinda small and it might take a while to become accustomed to it.
>>55178632
12,5", its fine, but for serious, all day editing i use an external monitor.
>>55178595
Buy a used xbox for 50 bucks.
>>55178632
Not on a thinkpad, but I work on a 720p 12 inch laptop, and I have my word processor set at 140% zoom. It's not entirely comfortable but a lot more portable than anything larger.
>>55178585
Fuck, don't know what to do.
Hey /tpg/ I'm thinking of buying an X200s but I can't seem to find one with either the L9600 or a 1440x900 screen. What gives?
Also, are there any mods I can do to it? I.E, can I upgrade the screen on any old X200s that I buy? I mainly need the battery life for whole day usage at uni and a Core2 will do the job.
>>55177844
>Stingrays are shit. Stop being poor and get a nice Prius.
>>55178555
Definitely, but then again, I'm in Yurop
Is spray painting your thinkpad not recommended?
>>55178763
>destroying art
>>55178636
>>55178676
Looks like he's getting the surface pro.
I was just testing tf2 on the machine and it hard shut down suddenly. It wouldn't turn on with ac power or battery power and to get it back to life I had to power cycle it.
What the flying fuck.
>>55177962
>My t530 is making weird electrical noises, like a pulsating sound.
That's a consequence of deep power saving modes of the CPU. The burst current demands when it momentarily wakes up to service tasks makes that noise. You can only eliminate it by disabling power saving modes in the BIOS.
> One anon said it was a faulty capacitor
Anon is full of shit.
> so I started taking apart me thinkpad
...despite having no idea what you're doing aaaand.... you fucked it up. Well done.
> and some of the screws are stuck
You mean 'I used the wrong bit and stripped the heads out'. Stop now, and forget you tried. The more you do, the more you will fuck up.
>>55178778
I just wanted to become my waifu
>>55178632
>anyone here use a 12 inch (x220,x230 etc) thinkpad for reading PDFs and writing documents etc? I'm worried it might be too small.
That's exactly why I have my X61T still. It's not too small.
>>55178799
This fellow knows what he's talking about.
>>55178799
Hi Louis!
new thinkpad shit aside, is this a good deal?
new x240 with i7, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, only the screen is not IPS nor fullHD( but i guess that is replaceable) for 400€
>>55178853
Nope, I only post howto webpages not vids ;-)
>>55178799
Thanks for your help? It's pretty straightforward to put back together and I stopped when the bits fit but I could turn them. I'll look into the powersaving, thanks.
>>55178881
>new x240 with i7, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, only the screen is not IPS nor fullHD( but i guess that is replaceable) for 400€
T240/X240 were pretty much the absolute low-point of Thinkpads. Expect it to need service within two weeks of unboxing :-(
>>55178898
>Thanks for your help? It's pretty straightforward to put back together and I stopped when the bits fit but I could turn them. I'll look into the powersaving, thanks.
Didn't mean to be harsh, but you need to take a little care when working on these things, and if you're having trouble just getting the screws out, you're sure as hell not going to know what you're doing once you have access to the motherboard.
Go slow, ask questions first, use the right tools.
>>55178458
The main problem with T440 UltraNav is the lack of physical buttons on the top which makes operating the buttons a lot harder. Especially if you like to use the TrackPoint. The user experience was so bad that Lenovo reverted the design in T450 and Lenovo isn't reputed for reverting bad design decisions.
>>55178929
(and, ftr, you can indeed learn faster by just giving no fucks and fucking up a lot, but the 'fucking up alot' is also going to break things you can't fix. Have spares handy.)
>>55178933
Would it be worthwhile to just get a 450 for cheap then? I've got no modding experience and don't want to break something that I hypothetically just bought.
>>55178975
Can you use a screwdriver and read a manual?
>>55178986
There's a manual for this kind of stuff?
who uses the fingerprint reader? what for? Does it work well?
>>55179011
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf
For those guys trying to get the fhd mod on the t420 going.
Word on the german forums is that apparently javie-jie is doing a redesign of the adapter board from scratch.
>>55178975
It shouldn't be too hard unless you're an absolute hamfinger, cannot follow instructions or just cannot be bothered with it.
If that is the case I'd recommend getting either a T430 or T450. The T430 still has the old power adapter so you can multiple ones for cheap. On the other hand if you're going to go ThinkPad for long therm having the new power adapter is better. A newer GPU and CPU are nice too but the T450 is going to be more expensive.
>x220
>i5 2520M
>1366x 768 LED HD display
>4GB RAM
>250GB hdd
>no lenovo warranty
>my town
>used by a student girl
>160euro
Worth? I got myself a x220 with better cpu some time ago but wonder if i should get it for parts or a just in case laptop.
>>55179163
>used by a student girl
Worth
>>55179163
get it and scan the hdd for deleted nudes
>>55179185
Not sure, contact person is a guy though.
>>55179239
> be a stundent with no money
> GF wants a new laptop
> learn up on internet
> x220 is the most logical choice
> GF not happy
>>55179263
>not making your GF get her own laptop
>>55179226
>>55179263
Im not interested in nudes. I bought one with better cpu, ram and ssd for more some time ago and im wondering if thats a good price for this setup.
>>55179295
>Im not interested in nudes.
Duuuuuuude......
>>55177704
>Hello guys, I need a laptop that I can take around with me to different places.
>Looking with something with good battery life, and fairly light.
T450s with 9cell battery can last you a whole day without recharging (no charging cables to carry around).
>I am also going to be using in bed before I go to sleep.
Look into the yoga models, or get some surface
Probably off topic, but:
I bid 450€ on a used Yoga Pro 3 on ebay. How much did I fail, /g/?
>>55179350
>>55179360
Isn't Yoga a consumer model not related to ThinkPads or enterprise laptops in general?
>>55178929
Thanks I got it set up again, I thought I was going to have to buy another one!
>>55179423
Yes. The Yoga Pro 3 is also the newest model. There is a ThinkPad Yoga though.
>>55179440
>ThinkPad Yoga
It's probably as great quality as the ThinkPad Edge series.
>>55178899
Its is still under warranty for a year sooo
>>55179423
Shitovo decided to just slap a Thinkpad logo on anything these days so it doesn't really matter
>>55179545
When did the thinkpad turn into a black macbook?
>>55178929
Should I turn SpeedStep off?
>>55178654
How is battery life?
>>55179573
T431s was the first one
So why lenovo changed the keyboard design?
>>55179610
Because everyone else was doing chiclet keyboards and Lenovo didn't want to feel left out
>>55179350
Are T450s good?
So what is wrong with the new thinkpads other than keyboards?
>>55179610
because making everything as close as possible to an ishit clone instead of retain dignity and key traits of a brand name is clearly the way to go
>>55179583
>>55179627
Remember when they said that there will never be a ThinkPad without the TrackPoint? I guess it is still technically true if you consider only X, T and W -series as real ThinkPads.
>>55179574
If you do that you'll cripple the battery time although the noise should stop. You could also just plug in the power cord to stop the power save related high pitch noise from CPU use.
>>55179473
>Its is still under warranty for a year sooo
Yeah, that warranty is sure comfy when you have to pay shipping both ways, don't have the machine for a month, and it comes back sloppily assembled with a brand new problem.
>>55179574
Specifically, you want to disable the higher C states in the CPU setup.
i found a x230 for 219€ on ebay
should i try it?
Got a little dell. Any recommendations on SSDs?
>>55180182
its a bit battle scarred ...
>>55180204
Get a cheap sandisk 128gig, its fast.
>>55178501
The iGPU is noticeably faster yes, the CPU not really, the battery life is a couple hours better
You can get dat x220 keyboard in an x230 anyway so
>>55178595
The Surface will run TF2 better
>>55178728
Why a X200s over something newer? Battery life has only gotten better since then? Any reason other than 16:10? (I do feel you there)
>mfw there's a x20 for sale on ebay
I have absolutely no need for it whatsoever, but I don't have one and it would be a nice addition to my collection.
>>55178853
Louis said himself he hasn't gone to 4chan since he was 13
Bought a refurbished T430 about two weeks ago and I absolutely fucking LOVE IT
>tfw ssd
>tfw don't care what I try, the thing just werks
>tfw part of the entire circlejerk
I love you, anons.
Is it common for dirt and grime to get around the clit? Mine feels harder and harder to move every day, maybe there's some dirt there.
>>55180345
Just wait it'll go away in a couple months and you'll realize that these old creaky notebooks blow and go get yourself something a lot nicer
>>55179163
>used by a student girl
Why do people list this as if it's a pro? My experience is women have no fucking respect for their electronics and shit
>>55180204
850 EVO>Sandisk SSD Ultra>SSD Plus>>SP550>>>>>>Shit
>>55180345
Make sure to upgrade the keyboard senpai
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
Got a thinkpad 13.
Not a laptop nerd but it's stellar compared with previous ASUS.
>>55181127
Knew Samsung was prety good. Sandisk is good looking too.
Can I upgrade a T520 into a W520 just by swapping in a W520 motherboard? Or are other things different?
I see plenty of mobos available but not many actual machines
>>55181454
why bother? what would you even be upgrading? you can put a quad core into the T520
got a nice 4kp50. I was afraid I got memed hard but I'm liking it now. fast as shit. only complaint is the matte screen is not the best for viewing angles and 4k is still a little overkill but the colors are insane. I feel like I'm tripping on shrooms when I see a saturated color
>>55181535
For the Quadro, I need to do CAD shit for school, I don't think I'll even bother upgrading from the i5
>casually looking for a dock for my t420
>find a near mint one, keys and two chargers included
>$25
I should shouldn't I? He sent this pic, is one of them the 135w charger?
>>55179163
>used by a student girl
don't get it, it will be in horrible condition
women have no respect for technology
>>55181881
just states model 4337 for dock so no i dont think so. Not that worried about optical drive though.
Anyone here ever bought from think_notebooks on eBay?
So if I want to pick up a W520 what should I be looking for in an eBay listing? I'm fucking shit at buying things used especially with music equiptment. I could use some help. Also interested in the t420 and I don't know what to look for.
Stay cozy, Thinkpad.
>>55181757
I also bought a dock today a Mini Dock Series 3 4337 for $18, came with a 90w genuine lenovo ac adapter.
>>55178575
Parts for thinkpads are pretty plentiful and cheap(ish) so providing it isn't fucked in other ways it probably isn't a bad deal.
>>55180204
If that's an E4200 it uses a 1.8" hard drive. The cheapest way to put a SSD in there is to get a 1.8" to mSATA adapter and then a mSATA SSD.
>>55183461
Fuck off.
>>55183517
Nah uses a full laptop hdd. Its a latitude 2100.
>>55181535
>>55181581
>>55181454
Well? Anybody know?
What's a good laptop with non-chiclet (high-profile) keyboard? Price is not an issue.
>>55184166
Try selling the t520 and buying a W520 straigh up, no need to put that much work into a laptop you're using for work.
>>55184221
Get a T520 1080p display, you wont be dissapointed.
>>55177704
>its 2k16..
>..soon to be 2k17
is tpx220 still a good meme pad or is there better one comming ?
Why is 230+ not as good ?
What think pad is good for school work? If I buy used older one like t420 how much will it cost buy new battery to get that 10h battery life?
>>55184229
But why? It's cheaper to buy the motherboard than if I sold it and bought a whole laptop
>>55184263
$100 for new from lenovo, but that would probably not get 10h. Cheaper chink ones would be worse. You'd need a battery bank too, probably for another $100 or so.
Any recommendations if I'm looking for something like 8-10h battery life for university/school work?
>>55184281
if there's no information on google you might be the first to do it. this kind of information is pretty fringe
i don't see why it wouldn't fit in the case since it probably is just a t520 board with the extra quadro chip and a different heatsink.
if it doesn't fit you could always throw it on a piece of acrylic sheet and use it as a desktop with built in UPS
>>55184306
get new batt for x220, get it running small distro and don't use super bright monitor, also ssd
if thats not the case get 2-3 batts and change
>>55184325
How there can't be laptop which can run over 10 hours today?
>>55184255
X230 is considered not as good because of the keyboard, but now the X220 keyboard can be swapped in with a bios mod so it's just fine and frankly a hard upgrade because it's otherwise practically identical
X240 changed the whole design outright
>going for a more unibody macish style
>dumping trackpad and trackpoint buttons
>removing the 7th keyboard row and fucking up the Delete/Insert/Home/End key layout
>huge touchpad you can't possibly avoid brushing against while typing
>front of palmrest isn't sloped down anymore so your wrists are uncomfortable depending on the angle
>hinges are mounted on the rear instead of the top, which means batteries extend down and not back which just isn't as comfortable on the lap
>ultrabay is totally gone
>disassembly is now much more involved than before
>generally pissing away all of the brand hallmarks that Thinkpads are known for
All that shit for only a couple benefits
>nice ass screen, which is very nice
>better battery life
Thing is, it could have had those things without totally cucking everything else.
Though to be fair it's still sturdy as fuck and great to type on compared to other typical laptops and a great all around laptop compared to consumer shit, but it just throws away all the nice small details that people liked Thinkpads for.
Models since then follow the same design while adding buttons back. Which is nice but it's not good enough. It's trying to appeal to macfags without realizing it will never win the macfag market because macfags will just buy macs, and the people who liked thinkpads won't like it either
>>55184413
Of course, there's also the X62...
>>55184413
Shit, the ultrabay being gone applies to the t440 and not x240, my bad, but all the rest still applies
I also forgot to mention other shit like dedicated volume buttons removed and media control function keys also removed
>>55177704
anyone have a link to the t420 whitelist bios?
the ones I found from googling didn't work
>>55184433
Which reminds me, I need to get a Daylight backlight into mine.
>>55184433
Releasing fucking never
It was supposed to be out in May wasn't it? I haven't heard jack shit about it since then
I also heard it has no audio hardware in it either
Still, would love to get one if it's a decent price. I hope they make one for the T60, that would be the ultimate fucking thinkpad for me if so, maybe with more room to fuck around with it can have less issues
>>55184433
I've been wondering, are the keys on that thing as loose and clicky as my old x201?
>>55184462
>Releasing fucking never
I have one. But yeah, overseas availability currently nil.
>I also heard it has no audio hardware in it either
The audio is a daughtercard that attaches to the mobo with a cable, like in a couple other late X-series.
>Still, would love to get one if it's a decent price.
I'm still seriously hoping they make a ton of these and sell them for a decent price too. I have a couple mods I want to make/sell for it.
They one I have is a pretty decent machine. All the glory of the old X61, an IPS SXGA screen, and fully modern hardware.
>>55184472
It takes a standard X61 keyboard. There were two options, the ones made by Chicony (louder, more snap) and NMB (mushier, quieter)
>>55184508
>The audio is a daughtercard that attaches to the mobo with a cable, like in a couple other late X-series.
Oh okay, nice.
How much did you buy it for? Are there any issues or things not supported with it?
What is the battery Hierarchy?
>>55184508
>I have a couple mods I want to make/sell for it.
Like what anon?
>>55184508
Whats the battery life on that fucker?
>>55184534
>How much did you buy it for? Are there any issues or things not supported with it?
I have an early first-run. The speaker audio doesn't stop when I plug in headphones. So far, that's the only issue. I'm told it's a minor fuckup they'll have fixed and I can buy a new daughtercard. Eventually. Honestly, if they don't fix it, I will.
>>55184551
>I have a couple mods I want to make/sell for it.
>Like what anon?
Biggest is an internal battery. I have no need for spinning rust in the hard drive bay. But it only has one battery management circuit, I'd have to build a glue-battery that merges two SMB batteries into one. There are battery controllers that can do this....
>>55184462
>I hope they make one for the T60
I heard if this is a successful (which it seems to be) that he'll do that, calling it the T70, and also one called X310 based on the X300
>>55184589
>Whats the battery life on that fucker?
I have never actually run it to empty.
>>55184611
Meaning? How long have you run it for?
>>55184534
>How much did you buy it for?
I bought it secondhand off a dude who knew us Western devils would trade a firstborn for it. I paid too much. Not my firstborn tho, he's actually pretty cool.
>>55184633
'bout six hours before plugging in again? I've not gotten around to doing a proper review.
>>55178763
>Is spray painting your thinkpad not recommended?
I haven't tried this, but I know a bit about painting (HVLP guns shooting primers, basecoats, clearcoats, and single-stage urethanes, alkyd enamels, etc., on cars, motorcycles, and tools). I wouldn't try to paint a laptop. They're plastic and exposed to pretty high-wear use.
If I wanted to change the look of my T420, I'd probably look into doing a vinyl wrap.
>>55184462
>Releasing fucking never
I just looked through 51nb with google translate, HOPE (the guy who runs this shit) said yesterday that the final board is in manufacturing right now
>>55184759
they're not all plastic.
That said, painting magnesium is also a recipe for going on a killing spree.
Two questions:
1) Are there any known issues with the T420's Wifi? Mine's in my garage at the moment and seems to lose connection pretty often, usually after a few minutes of use. The Windows icon shows about two bars of signal usually.
2) Any update on the T420 screen upgrade situation? Last I checked, the X220 was upgradable to a 1080p screen, but the T420 upgrade was canceled due to electronic interference, or something.
>>55184794
Excellent! I will mod that shit to the moon and back.
>>55184446
anyone?
also does it make a difference if you have integrated gpu only?
>>55184807
>That mirror finish
Might as well have gotten an MBP, that shits gonna scratch so easily.
>>55184915
that's what three coats of cellulose lacquer are for. Besides, she's a garage queen.
>>55184807
is that a thinkpad?
Only 1 more hour until I go to pick up my new old T60p, hold me, /tpg/.
>>55185026
Yes, X61T.
>>55184807
Reminds e of when I did my pebble. Took the coating off and made it brushed steel. Was going to ask how you made it mirrored?
>>55185074
beautiful
Would an X220 tablet in a bag be too heavy to carry around on long walks?
>>55179582
Lasts at least four hours every day with plenty of life to go.
>>55185095
A ton of hand sanding, then hand polishing, ending with a 15,000 grit chromium oxide/wax mix.
>>55185118
It's about 4 lbs., for reference.
>>55185118
Depends how heavy the bag is.
>>55185142
Shit man I figured just thought you had an easier way with that size of work. My little pebble time was hard enough and that was till a brushed finish with fine sand paper.
>>55185166
Honestly, it only took an afternoon.
>>55185191
Nice man. Took me like couple hours cause I was being finicky with strokes being not straight. Im just surprised it came out that clean. Some good polish and wax or something. Just looks really clean.
New models (X41 and X41 tablet) added to the list of Thinkpads you can get a Daylight backlight mod:
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-kit.shtml
>>55185205
Wet sanding, being careful not to cross-contaminate grits. Horizontal-only and vertical-only sanding direction alternated with each grit, keep going till all previous-grit lines are gone. Last pass is a circular polishing motion. Always keep the surface wet.
>>55185118
What? That's light as shit
I could carry a T420 around all day if I wanted, maybe even a T520
But maybe that's just because I used to carry a 17 inch laptop daily for 4 years (because I thought I just HAD to have a fuckin numpad)
>>55185236
ahhh circular motions on the last pass. I will try a mirrored next time instead of brushed. Been doing it on steel parts for dirt bike too.
>>55185279
I have a W701. Still easy as fuck to carry.
OTOH, my first portable was a Corona 286. Weighed 45 lbs, required AC, was 'portable' because it had a handle welded onto the back of the steel case and a cover for the CRT/floppies that doubled as a keyboard.
>>55185296
Just looked it up on a whim, oops, I was wrong, 8088.
God, that thing sucked.
>>55184433
is there an official news feed for the board?
>>55185334
No clue. I don't read Chinese. That's what I have you people for.
>>55185334
Nope, just posts on a chinese forum
Here's the gist of latest happenings
>first batch of final board revision is in production/manufacturing right now
>HOPE (the guy who made it) says he might consider international sales on later production batches
Sorry y'all, haven't been posting much, busy being poor, hating life and being an unmotivated lazy sack of shit.
Just started working on the Ivy Bridge pricing guide, about halfway done with 13 & 14" laptops.
I'm at about 18,000 pageviews on the dankpads website. Thanks for hotlinking, totally forgot about putting ads on the site :P
Hopefully I will have the guide ready by the weekend + some videos up.
>>55178289
>15" touch screen
fucking why
Maybe there's a touch edge series, but there might be a 14" touch T460/X1C/Yoga
>>55178295
totally forgot about my spare haslel i7 processor.
Will sell it now when I find it.
As far as i7...
I paid $300 for an i5 integrated graphics model
sold it for $440 after FHD upgrade and $350 for stock.
i7 I would spend maybe at most $500, but I had throttling issues while gaming on a T440p, which didn't happen on the godtier T430.
>>55178799
Thanks for spreading logic and removing FUD.
>>55184604
>d also one called X310 based on the X300
but the X300 is an obscure unit
Why would they bother?
>>55185325
http://www.thepcmuseum.net/details.php?RECORD_KEY(museum)=id&id(museum)=613
Oy, here it is. This fucking thing. I fucking carried this goddamned thing around college when I was an undergrad. Kids these days complaining about 4lb laptops, I fucking swear.
>>55185353
They're all obscure units at this point.
Probably because while it was out it was well received and has a nice balance between being tiny and not missing the ultrabay.
Can a dead or dying cmos battery affect the power on of a x220? Mines having trouble starting. I have to push the power button for 30 or more secs the first time i boot it in the day, but if i turn it off and on again its impossible to replicate the problem.
>>55185362
Agreed, the X300 has people who loved loved loved it, and there are no exact equivalents today.
>>55185374
No.
That sounds more like a marginal semiconductor or some other component that has to be warm to work reliably.
>>55185374
I think it'll boot without a CMOS battery
Probably more likely is you spilled coke into your power button you slob
The button working after being able to turn it on probably has nothing to do with battery or power and more that contacts work but then get fucked up after being left alone
Failing that it's a board issue
>>55185374
Yes, it most certainly can but that might not be the specific issue in your case. It can't hurt to get a new CMOS battery just in case.
>>55185374
>>55185400
Here's a test. Go to the bios and turn on the feature to turn on the laptop by plugging in the charger. Then do that instead of using the button.
If it turns on instantly, then it's just your power button that's fucked.
>>55185400
>I think it'll boot without a CMOS battery
Correct, it will boot immediately without a CMOS battery. It will just complain about time/date every time (and have default CMOS settings).
>>55185391
Yeah after its "warm" it works flawlessly.
>>55185400
Didnt spill anything on it, but thanks for the input.
What do you use your ThinkVantage button for, /g/?
>>55185346
I wish he took himself seriously and had a site and a stable manufacturing arm. I heard he had failed to meet availability for the a T42 board remake before
Maybe I'm being a bit over demanding. If this board was made in the US it would be in the thousands probably
>>55185362
The X300 was especially obscure due to its unusually high release price, more so than other models
Keep in mind that he's only designing the boards for these models. It's on us to find a good condition X300 to fit them into.
>>55185412
Alright i just turned that feature on, gonna let it cool down and try to turn it on plugging the charger later, hope its the button and not some fucking cap @ mobo thats dying, thanks for the help.
>>55185441
suspend to ram
>>55185448
>I wish he took himself seriously and had a site and a stable manufacturing arm. I heard he had failed to meet availability for the a T42 board remake before
Well, yeah. I've tried to negotiate with him through an intermediary and his mindset is very.... Chinese.
He wants to make money off this, and does not trust anyone else with any details whatsoever. He does not want a 'community'. He just wants to sell boards, and make sure no one else can do the same.
Honestly, the only reason I paid through the nose for a first-run X62 board was so that, if he walked away from the X62 just like he walked away from the T50 (becuase it was clear it wasn't going to make a profit), I would ahve a board to reverse engineer. Reverse engineering is much much easier than starting from scratch.
All that said, I do hope he succeeds despite himself.
>>55185448
>>55185507
>>55185514
Hey man, if he does flood the market with $400 X62 boards, I will be the first to sell every mod I can dream up (and manufacture).
I just don't think it's going to work out.
>>55179573
I kinda like it.
T430u looks worse.
>>55180204
2100? Disgusting, nab a 64GB SSD from another education shittop.
>>55180327
Its cute.
Especially since its the only X series that sports and ultrabase which has both floppy and CD drive.
>>55181169
Nice, it seems like a neat machine though I wouldn't say it is a 'true thinkpad' not like it matters since you are a new thinkpad user and don't know what everyone complains about.
>>55183461
tweeted.
is there any other 12.5 inch laptops other than x220's? i cant seem to get my hand on one without paying crazy prices
>>55185507
Interesting. Someone that actually made contact. If there is one thing that should motivate him it's the interest in the board. I do hope he takes notice and doesn't underestimate demand.
I also hope everything goes smooth for him but things rarely go right in these situations and there can be nightmares with quality control etc
Thanks for sharing what you know
>>55184263
My budget for any computer needing an upgraded HDD/RAM/Battery or AC adapter is $60 to 100. If my cost would exceed that, I would look elsewhere.
>>55184678
On with it, you're lazier than me
>>55185213
Bookmarked.
If I ever come across another cheap and ususpecting SXGA+ X60T I will def buy a kit for it when the time comes to swap the display on the bubbleh X61T.
>>55185353
X300/1 has the best keyboard on a ThinkPad since Lenovo took production.
Its better than a NMB T60.
T30, 755CE have the best keyboards for their ThinkPad 'era'.
Not a fan of the 600 or 770 keyboards sadly, though they are nicer than anything since the T4x.
>>55185507
Laowai is that you? :P
>>55185441
open pavucontrol
>>55179610
Because the only people thinking it's worse are autistic.
>>55185735
>Because the only people thinking it's worse are autistic.
It's worse because the only reason for the change was change.
Thinkpads have used the same 7-row keyboard layout since 1993. Changing it for a good reason is one thing, changing it only to chase fashion is fucking unforgivable.
"Good implementation is fleeting. Good interfaces last forever."
>>55185735
The layout is objectively worse.
The keys mechanically are fine. They curve in, they have pretty high travel distance. They don't feel like typical chiclet keys.
But it's the layout that people shit about.
>>55185823
this
>>55185735
Is it better? How so? Tell me this. What is gained by the 1.5cm you save not having the 7th row?
>>55185837
>What is gained by the 1.5cm you save not having the 7th row?
USD 75 cents per unit, plus a free 'it's so clean!' blowjob.
>>55185823
This
the keys themselves have good design put into them. They replicate the actual typing surface perfectly and IMO even feel clickier and sturdier than the T420's keyboard.
It's the layout that fucking sucks ass.
>>55179295
>Im not interested in nudes
This is why you fail
>>55180221
No, there are better deals on X230s
>>55185879
>>55185823
I agree.
I prefer the typing feel of the X230 keyboard over X201 and X220 but the layout changes are shitty.
OTOH I've been taking Print Screens a lot more these days.
Any solution for installing a hard drive without the rubber rails? The TP I bought didn't have them.
>>55187257
Get a new ThinkPad hard drive caddy with the rubbers from ebay for $3
Can someone tell me if the X220T digitizer is supposed to be completely glued down with LOCA glue to the LCD? I bought some individual digitizers to replace the smudged ones I have, and I realized that the HMM only talks about replacing the entire FRU.
>>55179423
ThinkPad X1 yoga is basically a more flexible X1 with a pen.
>>55187533
Anyone have any experience with the Yoga 460?
>>55185771
>search for 1993 thinkpad
>this comes up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHgKRWRdVo8
6 row keyboard
How does the X220 hold up in terms of screen quality and speed compared to $1000 new models?
>>55187907
The screen resolution is the standard crap 1366*768
You can get the screen as a ISP but the its still the same resolution.
The general speed is pretty good.
FML Senpai.
My trusty thinkpad (x220) wont charge. the charger is working and the battery works (was able to start the laptop from ambient energy)
but the charger wont charge.
Is it possible to replace the charging circuit?
What's /tpg/s opinion on the most useful ultrabay module?
Extra HDD?
Battery?
Optical?
Anus massager?
>>55188059
Does anyone know how it holds up with MATLAB for an engineering undergraduate?
Brought home my T60p. It has a flawless UXGA screen.
Pretty happy to have bought it for 35$AU, but I have no idea what to really do with it. For now nothing, since it has no hard drive.
/t430/ here
have any of you made an eGPU setup?
im considering buying the GDC Beast V8 but im too worried it wont work
tfw nobody mentions w541
so anyone uses this thing except me?
>>55188153
It depends on what you're using Matlab/Octave for. I guess it is fine for undergraduate level coursework as they should provide you servers anyways if there is any serious workload. Most laptops have only 8GB memory which will cause problems if they just give you any real amounts of data with no environment to process it.
So I just got a new T420 and it's great, but the battery is dead.
What is a good replacement battery to get?
Is the 9 cell worth the extra size?
>>55188284
I have GDC Beast V8 (expresscard) and it works fine with my X230. Just be sure to get power supply with enough juice (12V x 5A at least) and a mid to low range GPU that can manage with that and won't max out the expresscard bus too much.
I use Nvidia GTX 750 Ti and I've been pretty happy with the result. With Nvidia Optimus/Prime you can even use the integrated display as output while using the eGPU.
Only trouble was that I started out with too weak power supplies. First one didn't allow booting at all and the second caused random crashes during GPU load.
After having a solid power supply Ubuntu booted normally with the eGPU and offered to install official Nvidia drivers. Everything worked out nicely with no problems on the software side.
Just be sure to turn your laptop off whenever you attach or detach the eGPU expresscard or its cable. Rumor has it that doing it will fry the Beast.
>>55188284
I should get a 480 for en eGPU setup for keks before i get a thinksation for my main rig.
>>55188510
Also what is a good case to get for the T420, pref looking for a sleeve to just protect against knocks and scratches to keep the case looking nice
>>55183477
I'm gonna sell the second charger (60w) to recoup some money. I'll be left with two 90w which is convenient.
>>55183461
Stay comfy, Dankpad
>>55184221
T5/430 with the keyboard mod. Or X230 with the keyboard mod
I am going to buy a t520 i5 2520M, 6Gb RAM ddr3 ram and 240gb ssd.
unfortunately is has the intel 2000 gpu.
is 250€ a good price?
looks brand new, probably 1 year and a half old or so.
>>55188942
intel 3000*
>>55188942
If it has the FHD screen that's good, otherwise a bit expensive.
Don't bother seeking out the nvidia gpu, it's barely more powerful than Intel.
>>55177704
so i fucked up
i spilt Dr Pepper on my 420blazeit
thanks to the thinkpad magic the damn thing still works perfectly
but now half of my keyboard is sticky as shit
i soaked a paper towel in windex and that didnt work
how the fuck do you clean keys?
how much is a new 420blazeit keyboard?
>>55185586
X230 with the keyboard mod
>>55188316
>X4XX series
>>55188974
it has 1600 x 900 ( HD+ )... I haven't found a fullhd one yet in my tiny ass shitty country.
>>55188535
What power supply do you use?
Thanks for the answer, it was the detail i was looking for.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Elitebook-2540p-Core-i5-M540-2-53GHz-4GB-250GB-Webcam-Windows-7-Laptop/181902009358?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D35391%26meid%3Dd70b4fba8fab4649b0c20764bdedebe6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D371495157978
Is this a decent deal, lads?
Just looking for something to work on, use skype on and maybe play some pre-2005 RTS games now and again/bot on runescape.
>>55184816
Javi-jie is doing a complete redesign of the converter board. So it might take a while...
>>55189045
Currently a random ATX PSU I had lying around but I tried it with a 12V x 5A brick with round connector my friend has and it seems far superior considering the size.
Currently waiting the arrival of
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Style-60W-LED-Power-Supply-for-3528-5050-Led-Strip-12V-5A-LED-transformer-for/894026183.html
>>55187812
The 500 was the cheapest model, (monochrome, passive matrix) and had a 6-row. The 700 and 700C were 7-row with the same layout as models right up to where Lenovo started fiddling with it in the T430/X230 and abandoned it entirely in the T440/X240.
>>55177704
My mom has 500€ to spend as a bonus on a laptop.
What are some good options for general work, both normal and small-thin form factor
>>55188316
I want one.
But I also want a P70.
Its a shame there wasn't a W550 or W560.
>>55189460
I believe you got it wrong.
500 series were ultraportables
700 series were flagship/best technology
300 series were the economical models
200 series were small asia specific units.
>>55187500
Bumping for bottom-of-the-thread visibility.
