>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 stock won't improve until at least late July
Good job you fucking idiots, now AMD will sell like hot cakes.
>implying anyone wants to be associated with poorfags
:)
Might as well wait for the Ti now.
As an Nivida fanboy this pisses me off, they look like fucking idiots.
>>55124146
don't worry dude i'm sure that's only what they LOOK LIKE, it has no reflection in reality as to what they actually are... no at all dude..
>1288mhz out of the box overclock
>8gb
>$259
Nvidia fucking bodied
http://videocardz.com/61147/xfx-radeon-rx-480-pictured-features-1288-mhz-clock
>>55124124
Pascal wasn't ready to launch. They bumped it up a couple of months to beat AMD to market. Now they're reaping the rewards.
t. Minus 12 days to Polaris
>>55124218
I wonder if the non-reference cooled ones will have DVI. The 1070 does. Otherwise I'll just connect it with an hdmi, but it's annoying.
>>55124256
>2 cards to beat one
AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
>>55124245
I was expecting polaris before pascal, given the state of nvidia's woodscrews 2.0 situation. Not even having pascal ready for a tech demo earlier this year was a bad sign
>>55124256
That literally double the performance.
Did people already fixed SLI/CF problem or I have been out of the loop?
>>55124124
>amd will sell like hotcakes
>gtx 1080 out of stock
>people will buy a way inferior 480x instead
amd fanboy logic at it's finest.
>>55124302
>>Did people already fixed SLI/CF problem or I have been out of the loop?
DX12 dude.
They didn't fix SLI or CF, they just threw them in the trash and replaced them with synchronous frame processing
>>55124218
>blower cooler
dropped.
>>55124343
Is that mean we can expect a mid range Dual GPU card to became the norm now?
>>55124284
>$400 beats $600
>>55124218
This is the quality you choose, AMD shill
>>55124414
>being poor
>relying on shitty CF profiles
>>55124414
>$600
I think you mean $800-$1000
Seriously, how do they have ZERO stock
>>55124381
no. dx12 won't be the norm till 2018 earliest. dx11 is still very much the standard. the only people who think dx12 is already the standard are deluded amdrones.
>>55124354
>not having an itx case
>2016
>using big behemoth meme cases
>>55124477
1.7%
>>55124124
Pascal wasn't ready. This paper launch was a disgrace, made scalping stupidly attractive, and made Nvidia look like retards. All because they wanted to beat AMD to releasing new cards.
It's backfiring pretty fucking hard, they brought it upon themselves.
>>55124481
That still don't answered my question.
>>55124147
the funny thing is right till march nvidia was going dx12
all of the sudden when the war between nvidia and oxide devs started to get public nvidia changed to 12.1
they forgot to mention that the 12.1 needs a full dx12 adoptation
epic lel
>>55124420
>graphics cards louder than a vacuum cleaner
Seems legit
>>55124547
Here you go shill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv2nF2grrGU
Enjoy going deaf
>>55124477
The chip is huuuuuge. It's a fucking colossal chip for a new process that isn't optimized yet. The yields must be low as fuck, which means that they aren't able to produce as many chips as they need to supply the demand.
This was fucking obvious from the get go, but Nvidia ignored it and decided to launch anyway. I seriously doubt that even by July there will be enough availability. They won't be able to feed stocks properly well into late August, in my opinion. There's still massive interest in these cards, and the stocks are constantly out at all times, unless you're willing to buy at 2 times MSRP from scalpers.
>>55124414
enjoy your 1000W housefire
>>55124571
you are confusing the real 480 with the arsonist love gtx 480
>>55124560
>290X
>reference cooler
>measuring noise with a mic pointed at the fans and an open bench
>relevant at this point
LUL
>>55124430
>Being poor
Go back to your BST thread.
>>55124586
go flip your burgers
>>55124571
RX480 has a 150W TDP and is supposed to average 100W while being used. Gotta get some new memes senpai
>>55124481
I think by mid 2017 dx12 will be the norm for AAA games
>>55124571
>enjoy your 1000W housefire
Somebody call 911!
Fermi fire burning on the dance floor, whoa
(Fermi burning, Fermi burning)
What a blaze!
Jen-Hsun Huang, let's go, hey!
IN Elite, hey, hey
Fermi got that CUDA thing
Hotter than the sun in the south in Spain
Burned me soon as I walked through the door
My ricer case started melting
The way Fermi drop it low, that thang
Got me wan' spend my money on it, it
Fermi get it, pop it, lock it, drop it, that frame rate
Got a extinguisher, need to blow that crazy flame away
Now take my green 'n' black card and my house
Fermi is HOT like the fire, HOT like fire
meanwhile
1080s cards on amazon have reached 1999
we called it since the beggining nvidia wasnt ready at all for this
>>55124603
>triggered
>>55124124
You're talking about cards in the high end segment, AMD doesn't have any cards in that segment
>>55124594
>go flip your burgers
You really got me there, m8, best post of the year, 10/10
>Look on local websites
>"10+ in stock" on multiple 1080s
uhh?
>>55124618
>tfw /g/ take everything seriously now
I missed the old days.
>>55124302
>180%
>literally double
>>55124343
>synchronous frame processing
There isn't a single game or engine out there that implements DX12 SFR. Not a single one, it does not exist.
>>55124608
Jesus Christ
>>55124584
LMAO
That's how db is tested for most cards, whether linusshilltips is doing it or some tek syndicate faggot or whatever. 60db at 50% usage is a lot, basically hairdryer tier noise.
>>55124630
>poorfag got told
>>55124646
>ignoring all the other parts of the post
lmaoing @u
>>55124124
TO THE MOON!
>>55124641
Well I might exaggerated a little bit when i said literally, but comparing it to the old SLI/CF this is a huge gain.
Why people so anal when finally we got a huge leap in technology achievement?
Can we discuss this without acting like autistic person?
>>55124603
>he spent half an hour thinking of how to change a song into a joke to be posted on an anonymous image board
>he takes gpu wars seriously enough to be this much of a lowlife and make that song post
jesus christ. i mean, i've heard things about amd fanboys but i didn't think they were this salty and buttblasted
i don't get the appeal of the 1080 and 1070 for most games. those cards are for 1440p, 4k, and 144hz, which are niche resolutions and framerates. some 95+% of the pc market shoots for 1080p 60fps.
NVIDIA is so based they would rather ship people cards with wood screws than lose to AMD.
They will figure something out.
>>55124571
That's why i won't buy 1080
>>55124679
I don't understand why people are still on 1080p, the jump to 1440p is so fucking worth it
>>55124677
I...just...post...a...pasta...from...6...years...ago...
>>55124677
>he spent half an hour thinking of how to change a song into a joke to be posted on an anonymous image board
That song is older than you.
>>55124696
Because a good 1080p IPS screen + a card that can do 1080p at decent settings together costs 300-400$, while a good 1440p screen + a card that can do 1440p at decent settings will cost 600-700$.
You can maybe go down in price a bit, but that goes for both resolutions, not just 1440p. It's just much more expensive right now.
>>55124696
cuz 1080p is pretty good and i don't wanna have to replace my two monitors and gaming at resolutions higher than 1080p is really expensive for graphically intensive games
>>55124696
>1440p
>is so fucking worth it
>i have a micro penis
>>55124724
You can buy fantastic 1440p IPS screens right now for under 300$.
I would recommend at least 980 levels of power to drive the graphics but its so fucking worth it
>>55124646
you are literally bringing a cf setup from a card of 2013 that had the worst refrence cooling setup ever
and the goes to justify your stupid thought saying that a dual gpu setup is producing A LOT of noise
literally being this useless
>The new Porsche is sold out, guess all those people are going to go buy a Ford Focus instead
This is your logic
>>55124738
Sucks to be you, I don't really see how that's relevant to the thread
>>55124696
Why bother with 1440p now when every game still using DX11 abomination that ruin the performan of 1440p gaming for another couple years?
Tell me, I'm legit curious.
>>55124146
>As an Nvidia fanboy
Anyone that describes themselves as a fanboy of a corporation should consider suicide.
This just proved that nVidia has problems with 1080's success production rate.
>>55124749
AMDrones are like a guy in golf cart riding up to a guy in a Ferrari and shouting "LOL NICE PERFORMANCE/PRICE RATIO"
The best products aren't about price/performance ratio, they are about being the best.
>>55124740
Yea, just like you could buy fantastic 1080p IPS screens for under 300$ like 5 years ago. Except now, these same fantastic screens are under 150$. And can be powered by shit like an R9 380 or a GTX960 to acceptable levels of performance at 1080p, while you'll need at least a 980 or 390X to do 1440p comfortably.
It's just too fucking expensive for most people to consider the slightly better resolution. It's not like 1080p is 1366x768 or some shit, 1080p is actually fucking decent and good for the vast majority. People will adopt 1440p when the prices aren't 2 times higher than going for 1080p.
>>55124776
I don't even know what you are on about, what mad ramblings are these?
>>55124780
>>55124749
>car analogies
Oh boy, do you look retarded now.
>>55124749
are you actually comparing a car with a gpu?
if they wanted to they could sell 10.000 porsches each month its not about the quantiny you moron
you cant say the same about the gpu tho they need stock to supply the demand and clearly they didnt had and not only that they charged +100 for a version of a card that literally didnt had anything
meanwhile amd is charging +100 for 4gb more and providing a higher binned version along with 6 phases for better overclocking...
>>55124791
1440p is the perfect middle road right now
You don't need shitloads of money or graphical horsepower to get it, and its a big step up from 1080p.
4k obviously is still kind of overpriced right now for what it offers, but that won't take long
>>55124677
newfucks, everyone. jesus.
>>55124795
1440p mean jack shit if you can't get stable frame rate because DX11 is such a piece of shit.
>>55124673
>Well I might exaggerated a little bit when i said literally, but comparing it to the old SLI/CF this is a huge gain.
That's a DX11 benchmark though, so rather than me being anal your entire post is completely wrong and ignorant.
>>55124807
I wouldn't expect a budget card user to understand
>>55124560
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5YJsMaT_AE
>>55124828
Wtf are you talking about, framerates are lower on 1440p because the graphics cards has to render much more pixels.
What kind of fucking idiot are you.
>>55124813
It's too fucking expensive, you retard. It's not about being the perfect middle road, it's just too fucking expensive for the majority of people to justify going for it. Fucking deal with it and stop complaining and thinking everyone is in the same situation as you. The vast majority doesn't care and will get the cheapest option.
>>55124608
They did plan this, they control the supple to sell to retailers.
>>55124813
>Perfect middle road
>Don't need shitloads of money
>Big step up
Not him, but your argument is comprised of opinions, which doesn't apply to everyone.
>>55124808
>>55124807
The point is that thw type of people in the market for a top of the line GPU are NOT going to bother with a $200 tier card.
How are you not picking this up?
>>55124832
>That's a DX11 benchmark though,
so wait, why this guy >>55124641 mention DX12 if the image was from a DX11 benchmark?
>>55124847
>It's too fucking expensive
For you maybe
>>55124833
The best part about it, is that you're the one that doesn't understand just how retarded your analogy was.
But I'll leave it for yourself to figure it out ;^)
1440p is the new snake oil. Basically anything below 32 inches with 1440p is a piece of shit and not worth it. 1080p is optimal for 24-27 inch displays.
If you want 4k, yo go 2160p and above 40 inches, like TV and that's how you can enjoy muh graphics.
But a shitty 1080p 144hz TN panel is more than enough for most faggots.
>>55124862
So is his
>>55124813
But anon, I can get a stable frame rate because I have a GTX 1080.
God this thread is pure cancer
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
1080p is most common. 1440p is only used by 1.53% of Steam users.
1080p is equivalent to 'good enough' for most users. Kinda like, DVDs were good enough to most people when BlueRay came out.
>>55124872
>it's 2 times more expensive to go 1440p instead of 1080p
>>b-but why aren't people going for 1440p?!
>it's too expensive for most people, moron
>>for you maybe!
Keep missing the point and moving the goalposts, faggot
>>55124846
>framerates are lower on 1440p because the graphics cards has to render much more pixels.
And that's why I mention the 1440p gaming is not worth it you dumb fuck.
I rather get minimum rate of 60fps instead of 30fps.
>>55124878
>fox and the grapes.jpg
>1440p MUSTARD RACE
>say a gamer using a fucking TN panel
GO BACK TO /v/ you cancerous niggers
>>55124903
Or you buy a decent graphics card and get 60 fps at 1440p, idiot
>Keep missing the point and moving the goalposts, faggot
I'm not moving anything, your argument that 'it's too expensive' is just an opinion, nothing more at that
>>55124863
the point is everyone will bother with a gpu that costs 200 simply because it provides 80% of the perf of their 700 dollar card...
its the same shit as 4870 vs gtx 280 4870 was 300 bucks cheaper 10% slower and cause the gtx 260 to stop producing and slashed the price of gtx 280 from 600 to 350.... nvidia back then lost quite a lot of market share because of this and the same thing will happen now if amd goes full ortega on their asses
>>55124864
If you mean the guy I quoted, because he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'd guess.
>>55124813
Id play on 1080p getting 60 over 1440p and dropping to 30s-40s any day on the same GPU.
>>55124915
>'it's too expensive' is just an opinion
lul
>>55124884
Except he provided examples of cards to play 1080p and 1440p and the price difference between them. Yes, there are opinions, but it isn't as bad as
>>55124813
>>55124893
This is a pretty retarded thread, but it is normal for /g/.
>>55124863
Yeah but you can buy cars and mod them to be just as fast as a porche for far less money.
The car analogy is stupid because people buy expensive cars mainly as show of status. Buying a fucking graphics card for the status is beyond retarded
>>55124420
>set fan speed limit to 20% in Settings
>set power management off in Settings
>card still works at full load but never overheats
>>55124878
Like fuck, the difference between 4K @ 27" and 2560x1440 @ 27" is amazingly clear.
>>55124916
>everyone will bother with a gpu that costs 200
>everyone
Except all those people that just bought a launch 1080, amirite?
>>55124934
He provided examples, so what?
Obviously there are more budget friendly options, that doesn't mean that it's worth it for people that can easily afford it
>>55124940
You watch movies on a 27 inch monitor? Obviously you're not a poorfag but a moron.
>>55124945
those "people" who bought the 1080 at launch comprise like 10% of the market share.
>>55124915
>Or you buy a decent graphics card and get 60 fps at 1440p, idiot
For now? maybe 1080 could but the problem is not the hardware.
But the fucking software you fucking inbreed, do you literally ignored my first post?
>Why bother with 1440p now when every game still using DX11 abomination that ruin the performan of 1440p gaming for another couple years?
>buy a DX12 optimized hardware
>only to run DX11 games
Nvidia showed their card running on Vulkan with over 200fps, where is the fucking driver? Literally no one can play them because it doesn't exist.
I rather stick with my 980 instead of getting cucked by new cards just to run same shitty engine.
>>55124955
No, I watch movies on my TV generally, not at my computer.
>>55124983
I read your post and it is unsubstantiated bullshit you fucking mouthbreather.
>>55124945
the TAM amd is going is roughly 85% of the buyers of a given gpu
nvidia launched into the 10% do the math
also they will have a very good wake up call when deus ex goes live..
>>55124927
Strange, the only one who quote him is me.
>>55124915
>I'm not moving anything, your argument that 'it's too expensive' is just an opinion,
Also, I never said this.
Your fanboyism mentally start getting to you.
>>55125021
like fuck you didn't
>>55125011
Which part?
The one that most games is still in DX11 environment?
The one that new DOOM still got no Vulkan support?
Come on, i'm waiting for your next ad hominen.
>>55125037
Just because I dont want to upgrade my old Nvidia card to a new Nvidia card make me a fanboy now?
WOW!
>>55125072
No because you keep bitching about 1440p being too expensive
>>55125054
name a big TRIPLE A game of 2016 that will be on dx11
nope not a single one
nvidia is holding back everything
arma dx12
doom vulkan path
ark survival dx12 path
rotr broken dx12 path
shilling oxide because they dont have any capability to do hardware async and they are relying on w10 to emulate it
>>55125015
I mean this post:
>>55124343
That's the post that mentioned DX12. I don't know if that's you or somebody else, but in any case there's no DX12 SFR right now, not even as a demo/proof of concept.
>>55125054
Nothing you said has anything to do with favoring one resolution over the other. You're literally retarded. If DX11 produces shit results it does so both on 1080p and 1440p.
And obviously you will need more graphical power on 1440p because there simply are more pixels to be rendered.
There are plenty of graphics card out right now that can power 1440p.
>>55125086
Point me where I said that the card is "too expensive"
I'm waiting.
>>55124776
>>55124828
>>55124903
>>55124983
>>55125054
>>55125116
I don't know if it was you but here
>>55124851
>>55125138
Ugh, I meant here
>>55124847
>>55125138
its the truth lol nvidia simply dont have any stock left hence thats why you see prices so high that would made even a titan z to blush
>>55125011
You pushing your opinion that 1440p is so much better than 1080p is also unsubstantiated. At the screen sizes people normally use on a computer, you can't see the difference from 1440p to 1080p for the most part. 1080p is good enough for anything 24'' and under.
For someone making so many claims that aren't sourced to call someone else on spewing "unsubstantiated bullshit", is hilarious, to say the least.
Also, multiple people are calling you out on being a retard, not just one.
>>55125114
>If DX11 produces shit results it does so both on 1080p and 1440p.
And I did was talking performance hit.
1080p produce more stable fps over 60 in some DX11 games.
>>55125138
>I don't know if it was you but here
>>>55124851
Are you retarded? That post doesn't even related or replying to our discussion
>>55125138
That wasn't me, you can even see from the reply chain none of that related to my original post >>55124776
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
Seriously why do we care about a resolution since vsr and dsr exists? they do work well they dont have glitchies so far
seriously no one gives a damn
>>55124256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50
Daily reminder SLI is buggy shit and CF is even worse.
Nvidia rushed Pascal before it was ready in order to slow Polaris' momentum
>>55125163
Not the guy you were talking to, but I have a 1440p screen right next to a 1080p screen and there is a noticeable difference. Or are you one of those idiots that think 1366x768 is a great resolution for notebooks?
>>55125413
The difference from 768p to 1080p is much more noticeable than 1080p to 1440p. Diminishing returns is huge in the resolution field.
In 24'' and lower screens, you can't notice the difference unless they're side by side. Even less in gaming, which was what the entire discussion was focused around. It's simply not worth shelling out double the price for 1440p and hardware capable of pulling it off, unless you can get the best of the best, which will cost you far more than double.
>>55125163
>ubsubstantiated
No shit idiot, it's an OPINION
>>55125480
>The difference from 768p to 1080p is much more noticeable than 1080p to 1440p
>source
>your ass
>>55124124
>buying ayyymdcards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lTGk0R12gs
>>55125480
You know, for a guy who just called another guy out on making unsourced assumptions, you're sure talking out of your ass a lot.
>Diminishing returns is huge in the resolution field.
That's bullshit and you fucking know it.
>In 24'' and lower screens, you can't notice the difference unless they're side by side
You can notice the difference between 1440p and 1080p on a fucking phone. Now, I'm not saying that I think 1440p is not a retarded resolution for 5 inch displays, but if you can't tell whether a screen is 1080p or 1440p you might have to get your eyes checked.
Seriously, are you just spewing out shit because you're mad that you can't afford a 1440p screen, or what? Such a AMDrone that you ride the 1080p train as long as AMD doesn't put out a card that can actually be used on a better resolution? What is it?
>>55125480
That's totally bullshit, though.
Unless you're getting WAY past the point where your eye can't resolve individual pixels any more, like a smartphone display, the difference between FHD and WQHD is huge.
>>55125571
>Seriously, are you just spewing out shit because you're mad that you can't afford a 1440p screen, or what? Such a AMDrone that you ride the 1080p train as long as AMD doesn't put out a card that can actually be used on a better resolution? What is it?
But AMD cards do better in 1440p and 4k than Nvidia does
>>55125599
They still don't have a card that beats the 1070 (not even talking about the 1080) in those resolutions.
![tumblr_ltw666q3zK1r2g7mto1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AdFUhaE.jpg "tumblr_ltw666q3zK1r2g7mto1_500[1].jpg")
>>55125599
They used to. Then nvidia released the 980TI and the 1080.
>>55125633
Not yet. At least have the patience to see if there's going to be a 490 or not any time soon
>>55125572
it is not
the problem isnt the resolution its the refresh rate
60 to 144hz is a noticeable upgrade even on 480p
>>55125672
WQHD doesn't stop you from enjoying 144Hz.
>>55125667
Well, isn't that exactly what I said?
>as long as AMD doesn't put out a card that can actually be used on a better resolution
That wasn't sarcasm or something
>>55125633
in dx11 or dx12?
1080 was only 8% faster from furyx on dx12...... and costs 150+ more
pretty sure 480 will spank 1070 on dx12 thats the price you pay for emulating hardware features
>>55124124
Implying this wasn't Nvidia plan all along to release a limited stock and FE models for price gouging the last penny. You can't find a decent 1070 for less then $550
>>55125697
>pretty sure 480 will spank 1070 on dx12
It probably will, in AotS at least.
Although I'm not too sure about developers throwing their weight behind async, since nVidia's market share is still more than double that of AMDs (in the GPU segment) and I don't see them throwing a lot of manpower onto something that will increase performance for ~25% of their consumers.
People here always seem to think that you can just make a game benefit from async by pushing a button or something, but it's not that easy.
Of course, there's the whole Vulcan situation, but Vulcan hasn't really proven itself yet.
>>55125697
>pretty sure 480 will spank 1070 on dx12
no. straight from the mouth of the king of amdrones himself
>>55124146
After the TI you might as well wait for the next GEN, then wait for the TI for that gen.
>>55125696
Sorry, it's fanboy season. I'm too used to snarky comments.
>>55125766
nVidia dominate the PC market, yes, but 100% of consoles run GCN.
>>55125766
it doesnt really matter
consoles are making a heavy use of it eventually it will be very very inneffiecient for nvidia to keep paying devs to remove certain features or even reduce the amount of workloads passing through the compute pipeline..especially when gameworks is nowhere to be found nowdays after what nvidia did with rotr people are seeing what is happening they wont fall for it again
deus ex and star citizen is 2 of the games that will be purely rendered by compute shaders that means quite a lot of heavy hit in nvidia cards
>>55125865
And the by far biggest console doesn't do DirectX at all. That's why I mentioned Vulkan, which, as far as I know, uses async compute as well, but there really isn't anything out there to prove it's not a huge piece of shit. Not that I'm saying it is, we just don't really know yet.
>>55125911
Yeah, nothing to do but wait for benchmarks at this point.
Here's hoping!
>>55125911
the biggest console doesn't use openGL either. GNM is way different from oGL.
>>55124671
>I could have made more than $30000 if I bit the bullet
Being a poor student is suffering.
>>55124677
>>55124302
Synthetic Benchmark. This is not representative of game performance.
>buying non-Ti nvidia cards
that's like buying a non "S" iphone
>>55124256
enjoy your housefire amdcucks
>>55126033
>Not buying a new phone every year
>Not buying a new GPU every year
Sorry anon, I don't think we should talk anymore, I didn't realise you were poor.
>>55125394
damn commercials were so hype back in the day. I don't even know what the fuck that thing is but I want it.
PEW PEW PEW PEW
>>55125812
I mean when you consider the price point of each, this seems perfectly expected and reasonable to anybody barring the most devoted of brand loyalists.
>>55125144
>>55124124
>>55125546
>>55120021
fucking shills leave my fckn /g
-> http://4chan.org/v/
>>55126068
Nigga I wanted that game so bad, I remember seeing the advert for it every saturday morning.
>casually browsing through /g/
>see some gpu talk
>people argue about resolutions to no end
i miss plebspotters..
>>55126066
if you're gonna spend that much money on something, then buy the "good" version that won't be obsolete in a year you cuck
early on 2013 amd won all the consoles
some days later nvidia "we dont care about consoles"
may 6 nvidia "vr awesome vr uber alles vr"
may 29 amd paper launched polaris and was talking about vr and vr and vr
may 30 nvidia "vr is 20 years away"
fucking stupid company
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/nvidia-ceo-good-vr-20-years-away
being this stupid
>>55126308
Look, I get it, you're poor. I've already asked you to stop talking to me once. Now I'm having to do it again. I'm not going to ask you agin.
>>55126394
after the power/perf
after the noise/perf
looks like nvidiots found another excuse for their autism
they are rich!
>Paying extra for gameworks, physx, and G-sync
>Free sync ftw
>>55124626
Once Directx12 becomes big, Nvidia wont even have cards in the midrange segment
>>55124560
How can someone fuck up something so simple
>>55124124
>>55124245
>>55124477
>>55124521
>>55124529
>>55124569
>>55124778
>>55125157
>>55125400
It's not that Nvidia rushed Pascal, it's releasing on the same schedule they had last year. It's that they didn't delay Pascal.
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1328964
It takes three months to make it from order to product.
The chips they are selling now are an early production run started in late January, to act as review samples and for marketing purposes.
The chips that were actually meant to test the stepping in early March were lost in the earthquake; hence why the early production run was also used to test the chips.
Full production was not ordered until mid April, after the chips were tested, they will not be available until late July.
They did order another limited production after the earthquake recovery, these are the chips to be available this month.
They do not have more than 25000 cards until late July.
As a reference, 17 million GPU's were expected to sell in Q3, including OEM, Laptop Discrete, and Workstation. Nvidia won't have stock for their flagship until the last third of the quarter. The approximate demand for the 1080 and 1070 was expected in the million+ range.
I told all of you guys this back in April but no one listened. However, I thought they would delay rather than launch without stock.
>>55125569
>amd vs nvidia
>use card not made by amd
wew lad
>>55124913
>not using a 1440p 144hz IPS panel
lel
>>55126479
i hope it doesnt. i dont want to install fucking windows 10.
why wont they just use vulkan
>>55126894
the problem is unlike vulkan dx12 is intergrated on dx12 because of nvidia
the OS is emulating the casting and async feature if they arent present on the cpu this cannot be done on vulkan or any other OS
so i bet nvidia will try to kill as much as they can vulkan
>>55126953
what the fuck does half of this post even mean?
you do know that the ceo of the khronos group who develop vulkan works for nvidia right?
>>55126953
what
>>55127123
so ? vulkan by all means and ways IS mantle
also by all means and ways the dx12 features of dx11.3(which was originally planned) is MANTLE
you really dont understand that nvidia doesnt have a saying anymore on anything regarding api's....
>>55127159
i was meant to say that dx12 is intergrated into windows 10 because nvidia doesnt have a way to do hardware async and casting (yet they claim full dx12.1 support..)
>>55127193
>that dx12 is intergrated into windows 10
ok
>nvidia doesnt have a way to do hardware async and casting
ok
>>>because
what
You pretty much took two true statements then linked them together in a way that makes no god damn sense.
>>55127176
spotted the uneducated retard. please, stop posting your drivel.
reddit is that way.
>>55126107
Why did plebspotters stop?
>>55126953
english plz
threadly reminder that amd still don't support conservative rasterization which is a key feature in directx 12. nvidia on the other hand do. if you're going to criticize nvidia for their lack of async you must criticize amd for their lack of conservative rasterization.
thanks for listening.
>>55127277
yes they do, their implementation just isn't a single instruction
>>55124650
that denial though
>>55127228
actually it was dan baker that said that when he found out that nvidia was not using certain shaders when it came to render aots under 1080....and all of that on the .19 driver which was only a press driver somehow the newer one was doing it job but it was 10 fps slower...
thats why we know it
>>55127241
please enlight us on how nvidia can influense anyone anymore under dx12 since
1)they are completly locked out of consoles(new xbox new ps nintendo nx and the handled one)
2)they are about to end the licence deal with intel for their igpus
3)they locked out of the mobile market
literally no one is developing games for gameworks or nvidia in general for that matter... half a way through 2016 and only one indie game featuring nvidia logo...
its a wake up call and a hard one for that matter
>>55127306
>uses a subpar route to achieve results
so the same as what people are shitting on nvidia for.
>>55127277
amd cant do sub pixel culling in general they added that feature on the new cards
How do we know when it'll be back in stock?
>>55127344
There's a difference between
not supporting a single uncommon instruction but providing a path through three common instructions.
To a general purpose hardware implementation that's used on nearly every instruction the GPU can execute
>>55127384
reminds me of this..
a mere cape having much more triangles than batman its self
>>55125012
Nvidia is 74% of the PC GPU market. Where are you pulling your numbers from?
>>55127335
http://wccftech.com/nintendo-nx-handheld-nvidia-tegrabased-soc-rumor/
>literally no one is developing games for gameworks or nvidia in general for that matter
it's known that nvidia always go for the september AAA games instead of the shitty january and march releases. if you honestly think that devs have suddenly packed up shop and stopped accepting nvidia sponsorship's then you're deluded. also nvidia practically own the pc gpu market. please, stop posting and learn english before you start again.
the conspiracy theory board is this way -->> https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/
>>55125307
i made a thread on /biz/ back in april about buying amd when the share price was like 2.50. i let them meme me into disbelieving impending amdomination. i could have been rich
always do opposite of what 4chan says.jpg
>>55127424
jrp themself
also nvidia said that 80% of their users are still on fermi kepler (cant find the site tho it was from their financial years thingy they do)
>>55124146
Ti won't be out for at least six months, probably more like a year.
>>55127424
85% he's referring to is how 85% buy within the $100 - $300 market
>>55127448
Nvidia has 60% install base, 70% quarterly sales as of now
>>55127448
so in general nvidia goes for september eh? thats why there wasnt ANY game on e3 showcasing nvidia? hmmm lol
oh no nvidia took a handheld meanwhile i was talking about consoles...
(nevermind that nintendo havent spoken at all about nvidia so far so its safe to say they arent really there..)
>>55126601
>They didn't rush Pascal, they just didn't delay it ;))
What the fuck are you talking about
Releasing before it's actually ready is the same thing as rushing it you retarded faggot
>Bullshit stats / rationalizing
Suck more nvidia dick please. Also kill yourself
>>55127510
>e3
>showcasing nvidia
nigga what? why would there be any games showcasing nvidia when all ea, ubisoft, bethesda etc all market consoles before anyone else? since when have you every heard any game at e3 come out and be like "buy first on xbox one and though nvidia". also the pcgaming conference is sponsored by amd so why would amd allow any nvidia sponsorships be shown off?
you're fucking high. go back to sleep. "nvidia is dead, it's over, amd have gained 90% market share in 3 hours" amd posters like you need to go back to bed.
like i said before. the conspiracy theory board is this way -->> https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/
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Where is the RX 490?
Haven't heard a peep about it. It's got to be coming out.
If it is around $300 I'd go ahead and get it. RX 480 already competes with the 1070, so I assume RX 490 will compete with the 1080. But it ought to be around half the cost.
My only worry would be it potentially bottlenecking my CPU, which is 2x X5650.
>>55127554
They kept to the same schedule they had planned out prior to the earthquake is the point I was making.
>>55127600
there is no 490, just aftermarket 480s
>>55127561
lol ok i get it i was expecting such a post
its typical of nvidiots to downscale everything that isnt at their favor
meanwhile a year ago it was full of nvidia shit but now it doesnt matter
>>55127620
Then what is going to be the next step up from the 480? The new Fury? A new Nano?
>>55127688
whatever the brand names for the vega architecture are
>>55127688
vega will be from 490 and above the successor of hawaii and fiji will compete with ti and titan mostly
>>55127655
ok, please show me the times when any of the ubisoft, ea or bethesda conferences were showing off nvidia games since it was "full of nvidia shit".
>n-nvidiots
what? how am i a fanboy. i haven't said one fanboy thing on here yet you've been implying that nvidia have somehow lost all their market share and influence in a week since e3. you're the deluded fanboy here.
>>55127655
anyone who thinks nvidia is going to be relevant to anything other than the $400+ market that caters to Apple types is deluded. AMD controls console development. AMD has the superior architecture for dx12 and vulkan apis. AMD is releasing a new generation of cpus that people will actually want to buy, unlike bulldozer. AMD is releasing a new generation of high end GPUs with HBM memory in early 2017. the 2016/2017 financial year is going to be the story of AMD's comeback in a massive way and the share price already reflects that. NVidia on the other hand is getting squeezed out of the consumer market, which they don't want to be in any way because the margins aren't high enough compared to supercomputing and driverless cars and all that other crap they're way more interested in now.
>>55127742
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/e3-2015s-best-pc-experiences-powered-by-nvidia
clearly you are and if you arent one then you are dangerously lacking knowledge about the gaming industry
>>55127688
the 490 will compete with the 1070. amd considers the 1070 to be high end so that's why they're going to release a vega card to compete with it.
i'd guess it'll be like
460 = 1050
470 = 1060
480 = 1060 ti (been rumored for a long time now)
490 = 1070
Rage = 1080
Rage X = 1080 ti
Are the 480s being released at the end of the month just reference cards?
>>55127790
>article released 7 days after e3 2015
>it's been one day since e3 2016 ended
>b-but nvidia are non existent because they haven't made an article about e3 yet
you can't be this stupid right?
>>55127794
who the fuck said amd is considering 1070 to be high end?
the only high thing this card has is its price on dx12 its 15% slower than a fury x and 1080 is 8% faster...
those cards will be irrelevant on a year max once volta comes
and what the fuck is rage?
ayy
cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/9310_ellesmere_cam3_02_0010_4k-100663925-orig.jpg
>>55127837
>on dx12 its 15% slower than a fury x and 1080 is 8% faster
It's 15% slower in AOTS. Not even an nVidiot but you're insane if you think AOTS is representative of all future DX12 games.
>>55127790
typical amdrone retardedness. end yourself chump
hmm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Nvidia-Geforce-GTX-980-reference-style-cooler-Model-GV-N980D5-4GD-B-/131849121795?hash=item1eb2d1f003:g:-aQAAOSw-4BXYeBH
>>55127828
are you seriously so stupid? i can give you articles that can stretch back to 2008 this was the first time nvidia didnt had any game to showcase for a long time on e3 not because of amd not because of whatever they simply dont have any big dx11 game to showcase only one indie was shown and that is
nvidia clearly didnt expected the adoption of dx12 to happen that fast but considering that 6 bigger companies was pushing it it was a matter of time only..
(also amd hosted a single day not the whole event )
>>55127837
Rage is old naming from the ATI days newfriend
>>55127816
AIB's are being released at the same time
>>55127882
aots until mirrors edge catalyst was the only game that was using compute shaders...
check out what happened once they found out nvidia was forcing the game to be used with a certain option enabled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
now imagine what will happen when deus ex will hit the market and it rumored to be quite heavy on the compute pipeline..
>>55127905
rage has nothing to do with current gen cards
also i doubt they will continue with it i rather see gemini as a name (make a nice touch along with zen )
>>55127950
>forcing
>you can just disable it in the settings
Also, isn't that a problem with the 3.5 GB fuckup? Like, it has literally nothing to do with DX12?
>>55127883
yeap sucks to be you being so deep on nvidia ass that had to escalate the commitment to justify a card that is faster on an almost obsolete api lol
>>55127990
i dont know last time i check when you disable certain graphics feature you tend to run faster regardless of the api no?fb3 is using mantle so its understanble heavy on the compute pipeline
>>55127950
>check out what happened once they found out nvidia was forcing the game to be used with a certain option enabled
>digital foundry does a test
>fucks up the testing
>I-IT'S NVIDIA'S FAULT GUYS!!
yeah, it's also nvidia's fault that the 970 gets on average ~10% better performance when the bottleneck is removed and when both cards are running stock. what a beast card the 970 is :^)
also how does it feel to know all ayymd fury x owners have to downgrade to the 300 series because their $600 card doesn't work at the same settings as a the 970? AMDdrones on suicide watch lmao. $600 literally thrown into the bin.
>>55127816
no, AMD, unlike nVidia, didn't create an overpriced reference model as an early adopter's tax.
>>55127950
Uh, this has nothing to do with DX12 or compute shaders at all
This is happening because the game is asking for more than 8GB of VRAM, the Fury X which has complete 4GB of HBM at full speed also shit itself with this game at those settings, in fact most reviewers couldn't even get the game to run for more than a few minutes without crashing on the Fury X, while the GTX970 at least was payable albeit at 15FPS.
>>55128024
>it's okay when the fury x does it
>>55127990
it's not a 3.5gb issue. no card with under 6gb vram can run this game at that setting. it's seen to use upto 7.5gb vram.
>>55128069
How the fuck can they use this much VRAM in a game that has 90% plain white textures?
>>55128083
Uncompressed textures, even if they don't provide any visual improvement they are still an "upgrade" since they are 100% raw files.
>>55128083
this >>55128100 and the game is probably rendering in shit you can't even see.
>>55124124
>not waiting for 1080ti
you sir are a homo
>>55128024
oh you mean
The Fury X and GTX 970 refused to run with any stability
its funny that the very own site you post saying the same thing lol
but ok lets assume only amd doesnt go well lol
>>55128100
just like doom 3 back then with its ultra setting that barely any card could play at the time
>>55128024
i love it when fanboys get blown the fuck out. watch how he damage controls now
>>55127950
>>55128129
The Fury X came out one year after then GTX 970 and it export the revolutionary "HBM" not to mention it costs $150 more than the GTX970.
>>55128129
>post clearly shows an $600 card struggling like an nvidia $300 card
>w-why are y-you only picking on a-amd ;_;
fuck off slav
>>55128158
the same goes for 1080 a year later+150 more and barely faster than it..
>>55124777
At least he is self aware enough to know what he is. Better than the shills on this board that fight back tears at night, whispering "I'm not a fanboy. I'm being objective!" as they rock themselves to sleep.
>>55128192
an amd* $600 card
>>55124677
MODS
>>55128196
Yeah, but the 1080 is the faster card in the market right now, the Fury X couldn't even beat the 980Ti let alone the Titan X.
Literally all the top 4 strongest single GPU all belong to Nvidia.
>>55128196
>barely faster
>in a single game
>btfo's the fury x in literally EVERY other game
The funniest thing is when you realize nobody is even actually PLAYING AotS.
>>55128196
>being this much of a deluded ayymdrone
holy kek this is gold. keep going, someone needs to archive this shit.
