What are 8-bit (or 16-bit with 8-bit support) ISA graphics card's with EGA that support MDA monitors? Card's that can do EGA, CGA and Hercules modes on a MDA monitor.
I only know of ATi EGA Wonder, but that's a card what's impossible to track down these days.
>>55088038
And except VGA Wonder
>>55088038
>ISA GPU
What? Never even knew they made those.
I have a diamond s3 at home, but that's pci
>>55088082
You had to output graphics to a monitor somehow before PCI came along, you know.
>>55088093
Never even considered that.
What ports existed before ISA? I'm curious now.
>>55088112
well, not before ISA, but between ISA and PCI you still had AGP, which was dedicated to video cards.
Also, did you check eBay?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221706030992
>>55088129
Yeah, been looking for days, but I want some knowledge from people who know if it works.
There are lot of cards that can use MDA monitors but only with EGA mode 640x350 and MDA text but can't do Hercules or CGA.
>>55088126
AGP was after PCI, AGP is PCI with more power and faster link, backwards compatible even with a passive adapter.
>>55088112
There are a lot of old slots, specially for different computers, Amiga, Macintosh, PC-Compatible, etc for all kinds of cards and expansions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_bus_interfaces
>>55088259
Thanks for the link. That's really interesting.
![IMG_20160614_091828[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rPqoHGH.jpg "IMG_20160614_091828[1].jpg")
I have this 8bit graphic card that doesn't output any video, only composite out works
those white labeled chips get hot very quick, what are they used for
also do mono TLL monitors only start up when they recive a signal ??,
got a Philips BM7923 13" AMBER monitor and when I turn it on I dont hear anything, does it need a signal to start up ?? t has a 9 pin connector input ?
>>55088520
It's a ATi Graphics Solution plus.
Might be you'r dip switches are wrong and that's why a monitor won't work, because it supports MDA/CGA and EGA monitors.
You have to find a diagram (or try your luck and test it randomly) for the switches and configure it right, it's just a few minutes work, good luck.
It is a CGA card supporting CGA and Hercules also compatible with MDA, CGA and EGA monitors, but you have to manually select what you use with the switches.
>>55088591
Fix, not Plus but SR*, everything else is right.
>>55088520
>>55088591
And those old cards do heat up quite a bit, wouldn't worry.
Also, I found what you need!
www.arvutimuuseum (dot) ee/th99/v/A-B/52891.htm
>>55088112
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus
just between ISA and PCI
>>55088640
You mean literary between
![IMG_20160615_114721[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CwF43ay.jpg "IMG_20160615_114721[1].jpg")
>>55088613
>www.arvutimuuseum (dot) ee/th99/v/A-B/52891.htm
okay sow is ON considered the down or up position ??
>>55088731
The side with numbers is usually OFF
>>55088731
I can't find any info on your monitor tough, if it's amber it's monochrome I supose? Unless you already know.
Try switch 1 ON and 3 ON and others at the number sides first, if it works you can try CGA emulation and flip switch 1 to the number side too.
Right now your switches are analog monochrome, so yeah, only composite works.
>>55088773
>>55088814
nothing seems to work
gonna have a look at the monitor to see if I can find any obvious signs of problems
but there is no way I can hook up a digital monochrome 9pin to standard vga, if I rewire it a bit ?
>>55088871
It says switch 6 should be ON too, by factory it should be ON.
>>55088871
And there are adapters for 9pin to VGA, but it's not passive.
(9pin out's on those cards are actually digital not analog)
>>55088879
yes I know that
those white labeled chips get very very hot quick and there are identical ones on board and the dont get even worm
what are they ROM ?
>>55088895
The ones with the white stickers are not identical to the ones without.
>>55088895
>>55088917
And they seem some kind of I/O IC not ROM.
>>55088895
>>55088871
Any luck?
>>55088038
Ok my memory is a little hazy as I was only about 7 years old, anyway, our Everex 286 had an 8-bit ISA card and I remember being able to change the video mode between EGA / CGA / Herc but I'm not sure if that was by DIP switch or DOS command. Monitor was 9pin EGA. The card was very similar to this one: http://www.recycledgoods.com/everex-systems-inc-ev-659a-pwa-00306-ega-video-card.html . Good luck.
>>55089393
Thanks! I'll look into it!
>>55088093
but they didnt have GPUs. They had a block of memory on the card that would map to the machines addresses. Then you would use BIOS calls and write into that memory. Essentially writing to the pixels directly. Whatever you wrote would then show up on screen.
some of those dip switches probably control what memory addresses it maps to. If it conflicts with RAM addresses, then it wont work. If using DOS or early windows youll have to keep it all under 640k including the video mem
>>55089420
You're welcome. Some helpful person has collected all the jumper settings here: worldwideweb dot arvutimuuseum dot ee/th99/v/v8ISA_i.htm Wow the spam filter really hates me
![IMG_20160615_110330[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v0djGct.jpg "IMG_20160615_110330[1].jpg")
well I am still unable to get anything out of the 9 pin
quess gonna need to find a 8bit Hercules now, god thats gonna be fun !
trying to revive a philips nms 9100 it seems to work composite out so Computer seems good except the stupid video card
![IMG_20160615_110328[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dUZoc6v.jpg "IMG_20160615_110328[1].jpg")
>>55089675
a bit clearer picture
>>55089721
I'd sell you my old Hercules if I'd find a EGA card with MDA monitor support (with CGA and Hercules emulation)
>>55088038
is that an old raspberry pi
>>55090305
yes, made by ATi
>>55089675
>>55089721
That sucks.
>>55088038
Pretty much anything with a 9-pin output and DIP switches supports a TTL monochrome output, this includes most early ATI cards and probably Oak Tech cards too.
I used to have an ATI VIP in my XT before I swapped it back to the MDA card for date matching, probably going to stick it back in now that I have a much more museum-quality system for that kind of stuff though.
>>55089542
There were accelerators, though.
>>55088038
I'm not sure if it fits the bill exactly, but in my IBM 5150 I have an Oak technologies OTI37c card that is able to support Monochrome, CGA, EGA, and VGA.
When I bought it a few months ago, they were going somewhere in the $20 range.
