So is the RX 480 really going to be the ultimate mid-range card? I've heard different comments about its performance, but a month from now you'll be able to get a GTX 970/980 for the same price as it, and months from that it will face competition from the GTX 1060. Is it really going to hold up?
>mid-range card
It's entry level. Get a GTX 1070 if you want mid-range performance.
>>55040113
The 1060 will be half a 1080, or a rebranded 980. Not worth the money.
Nvidia filed for insolvency mate, go with the rx480
>>55040124
Wouldn't entry level be 460x?
>>55040125
I don't think you understand what a rebrand is.
Is it fair to say the RX 480 will have GTX 970-like performance, but with more VRAM? Or will it be more like the GTX 980? Talking about the 8GB version.
Should I go with this
My setup
>i5 4570
>gtx 770
>1080 60fps gaymen
Im tempted to buy a better monitor but for a time being this is what i got. Would 1070 be overkill?
Well it could be, if AMD had good drivers.
But they don't so it won't.
>>55040195
>770
No. Not at this point. I can guarantee it will fall behind rapidly, as if it hasn't already enough.
>>55040173
Reports thus far indicate that it will be closer to 980 or non-x fury performance. This remains to be seen however as the card isn't out, and AMD are hardly going to 'leak' results that make the rx 480 look weak. Wait for the release date.
>>55040202
Wow tripfag, I've never ever seen you post the same shit in every single one of these threads. Thanks for keeping it original friend :^)
>>55040113
It's around the same spec as the 980 up to the 980ti.
>>55040220
He's autistic when it comes to brand loyalty, Just ignore it.
He's also salty there's no 1060 and he can't afford a 1080 or 1070.
>>55040113
Remember how Bulldozer was boasting powerful multi-core performance for low low price? (which it did if you oc to 5GHz and the app uses all 8 'cores' which no game does)
Yeah... AMD is all talk at the moment. The RX 480 will be okay, but just ok.
1060 will be a 980 equivalent for $230 with 6GB.
Firestrike ultra of RX 480 (3460) :
/watch?v=rG-_mzIho5g
>>55040173
980. Compute is greater then 5 teraflops
>>55040237
It's a 5+ teraflop beast. I'm even more excited for vega late this summer.
>>55040240
So, is the result good or bad?
>>55040260
Good thing Nvidia is injecting more AMD anti-code into future DX12 games then or that 5 flops would make AMD gpu seem good.
>>55040154
Source?
>>55040275
It's approximately.
Buy a 290x.
>>55040237
AMD has to do Clinton level political fuckery just so that they can market their garbage.
Then when the consumers are left high and dry with no support and promises instead of performance they buy Nvidia.
>>55040240
Wasn't this benchmark meant to be fake? Or over-clocked or under-clocked or some such shit. I can't remember
>>55040275
Fucking good, a GTX 980 4Go OC do like less than 3200 points.
>>55040238
and 300$ for FE
>>55040237
But fx8350 was trading blows with Ivy bridge i5 and i7 processors in multithreading?
>>55040113
Why would anyone care about the 1060. The 960 is weaker than a 770 and they literally had to gimp the drivers on older cards so that the 960 could just barely break even. If a if the 960 is weaker than a 770 than you can bet the 1060 will be weaker than the 970 and theres no way its going to compete with the 980.
The catch. It will cost about as much as the 480 yet the 480 will at least be a tier up since it competes with the 980.
1070 will probably be better by a little but for an extra $100 does it really matter?
>>55040289
When has this ever happened?
>>55040124
>most powerful card to date will be the 1080 ti
>most powerful card right now is the 1080
>1070 will be the second most powerful card on the market will its released
>mid range
You believe always make me kek.
>>55040165
At the rate the 480 is the 460 will literally be barely better than integrated graphics.
>>55040238
Considering the 780 shat on the 960, I think it's pretty optimistic if you think the unconfirmed but inevitable 1060 will be 980 levels of performance. I wouldn't be surprised if it was also more expensive than $230... Gotta get that founders edition thermal throttling.
>>55040371
Don't feed the tripfag please.
>>55040349
I thought Nvidia never released reference cards for the x60 and below cards.
>>55040411
What makes you say that?
>>55040429
I want to see him try and justify it. On the rare chance that some retard actually believes him, plus for personal humor.
>>55040432
Why go to the effort to rebrand your reference coolers as 'founders edition' and charge significantly more for them if you aren't going to milk your entire lineup?
Do you need one of two to play the latest AAA titles at max setting 1080p 60fps
>>55040432
After how many people fell for the 1080/170 FE they will.
>>55040289
>AMD
>Fucking consumers over
3.5
3.5
3.5
3.5
Among other things..
>>55040471
One.
>>55040113
new benchmarks show its as powerfull as a fury nano in firestrike, so easy beating a 980
>>55040432
Don't underestimate the memelords
We're at a weird point in the PC gaming market. Graphics cards have progressed to the point where low end cards can now max out games at 1080p 60 fps or come close to maxing them out. 1440p and above monitors are still expensive as fuck and adoption will won't take off for a few years (cheapest 1440p monitor I could find is $260). So basically, people who buy a graphics card now and will upgrade to 1440p or 4k in a few years when those monitors are the same price that 1080p ones are now, won't have a reason to upgrade their GPUs for several years. So after the rx 480 and whatever Nvidia puts out in that price bracket are out, are AMD and Nvidia going to be forced to focus on price and power consumption for the low/mid range as competing in processing power will be mostly irrelevant for this period?
>>55040456
>Why go to the effort to rebrand your reference coolers as 'founders edition'
Because that takes no effort, it's purely marketing. The "founders edition" nonsense is purely to get a few extra shekels from the "gimme gimme now, I can't wait for a board partner card" crowd. People who buy mid range or below cards don't really have that mentality.
>>55040471
Probably one if you don't go crazy on the AA.
>>55040511
>Implying all the extra marketing takes no cost or effort
>Implying Nvidia is only trying to cuck people who buy their high-end cards
>>55040371
With every AMD product announced product in the past 5 years.
They show a bunch of shit that isn't representative of the product, like heterogeneous compute benchmarks and other retarded "APU" shit.
Now they rely on Crossfire numbers and NDAs? What are they hiding? lmao
>>55040530
I was using hyperbole, obviously marketing takes effort, but not nearly as much as it did to redesign the reference cards.
>>Implying Nvidia is only trying to cuck people who buy their high-end cards
Not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean, but I wouldn't be surprised if AMD started acting like Nvidia on the high end because AMD needs money and what Nvidia does generates a lot of revenue.
>>55040385
>ignoring vega release
You did a wrong anon.
>>55040555
>AMD
>Shit that isn't representative of the product
10 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN TITAN X!!!!!!!111!!1122@#!!
>>55040113
>So is the RX 480 really going to be the ultimate mid-range card?
It seem given the leaks that the RX480 will be plenty for 1080p gaming (+60fps). So if you only play at 1080p like 75% of gamers do it makes sense to get the rx480 and save around €240 compared to the gtx1070. With the GTX1070 you got quite more fps headroom on 1080p giving the card a more future-proof headroom but at double the price it is absurd because in 3 years time you could easily upgrade to the next AMD offering with the saved money.
>>55040555
You do realize AMD makes bank on consoles right?
AMD has chips in every single ps4 and xb1. Do you know how much that accounts for in profit? AMD is doing really well right now.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/175190-amd-beats-earnings-estimates-thanks-to-console-sales-but-apu-outlook-is-bleak
>>55040567
Honestly I doubt the redesign took that much effort, considering how similar it is to the 900 series reference cooler, which was almost identical to the previous generation and so on. The marketing team on the other hand probably got a media budget in the millions if not tens of millions to push 'founder's edition' and the creative budget is usually 20-30% of media budget.
What I'm saying is that if they already have the cooler design why would Nvidia, or any company for that matter, not use it to make more money out of all their products, even if won't be quite as popular on lower end cards?
I appreciate your hyperbole, however.
>>55040567
>but not nearly as much as it did to redesign the reference cards.
Holy shit I'm retarded. I meant to say that marketing takes less effort than engineering, and would in this case if the "founders editions" cards actually required a lot of engineering to add new features. Like if they created a blower cooler that performed as well as a regular cooler, that would be noteworthy.
>>55040606
Also don't forget supporting the competition for making great products only benefits consumers long term.
>>55040555
>every AMD product
Could you get any more vague?
I love how you're incapable of even giving one example, thanks for the laugh
>>55040113
>mid range
you mean low end
>>55040623
>Honestly I doubt the redesign took that much effort
Yeah I got my sentence all mixed up, I don't even know what I was trying to say there. See >>55040629
Anyways, I doubt Nvidia does their own marketing. I'm sure they just hire the best marketing firm that they can afford to work with them. So that takes little effort on Nvidia's part.
>>55040555
>Implying APUs aren't a massive cash cow for AMD or relevant to a huge portion of the market
The only reason Nvidia doesn't do APUs or consoles is because they lack the manufacturing and their yields are too low
>>55040647
Is a 980 low end? I'm still running my GT240. That's low end.
>>55040606
in summary:
GTX1080 -> 1440p gaming + 4K(not highest setting)
GTX1070 -> 1440p gaming or retards that play at 1080p and do not care about overpaying
RX480 -> 1080p gaming knowing you paid fairly for the performance you get.
>disclosure: I have been team nvidia since the 8800 days but I am switching to 480 pending final benchmarks.
>>55040649
A reference blower card from either company would be sick.
Yeah probably not, I guess not so much effort as just throwing money at something and getting results
>>55040651
>>Implying APUs aren't a massive cash cow for AMD or relevant to a huge portion of the market
How? They'll only ever be relevant for "console killer" PCs and laptops. APUs aren't quite there yet for budget PC gamers to get them over a cheap GPU. Laptops require a good processor first and foremost, so an APU with a shit processor isn't good for laptops and AMD hasn't put out good processors for a while. APUs are something that could be huge in the future, but they're not very relevant yet.
Is the RX 480 going to be the new HD 4850?
Do I need windows 10 for this shit? To play properly
Plz say no, I dont want that shit.
>>55040662
Dude if you see the 390 price drop less the $225 you should snatch it.
>>55040679
What's wrong with windows 10? Only issue I have is horrible nvidia drivers.
>>55040688
>not realizing your the cancer in this thread
>not realizing the bait
>>55040688
embrace the botnet
>>55040662
>or retards that play at 1080p and do not care about overpaying
A 1070 is pretty good for 1080p 144hz.
>>55040622
This
>>55040113
>>55040661
Why are you bringing in last years architecture?
Compared to cards of this architecture the 480 will be low end yes
>>55040674
I'm no expert, but all the news pointing to Apple teaming up with AMD leads me to believe it must be pretty lucrative. I don't think you can dismiss laptops as being irrelevant either, discreet graphics is a comparatively small industry.
>>55040717
Nvidia R.I.P
>have 290
>overclocks alright, but nothing special. so at best it's stock 290x performance
I'm thinking RX 480 would be perfect. assuming it's no worse than a 980, I'll get higher performance, less heat and noise, and newer architecture for ~$100 (assuming I can sell my 290 for $150, which seems reasonable)
>>55040717
is this real?
>>55040701
You're*
You need to be over 18 to post here. Did you fail second grade English and drop out of school?
>>55040717
You know the 480 will be good when AMD parties this hard.
>>55040720
We'll we've only seen 3 cards from this generation so far. it's hard to say where the 480 will fall until more cards are released.
>>55040717
lel
>>55040705
Witness here a retard that thinks anything over 60fps is noticeable.
>>55040765
Obviously you don't realise that playing above 60fps actually makes your dick bigger.
>>55040746
Yeah/
>>55040720
Are you mentally ill?
WHAT DO WE COMPARE TO THEN?
$200 decent overclocker RX480 ≈ GTX980
$380 poor overclocker GTX1070 ≈ 980TI
Do the math.
>>55040705
1070 won't do 1080p 144hz. It usually takes 2 Titan X cards for that so you need 2 1070s too.
>>55040443
>what makes you say that?
Integrated graphics are beating even discrete cards these days.
Any entry level i3 has enough graphics to run most basic games at 60fps at medium settings
>>55040865
No, iGPUs are crap.
Is it confirmed the Zen was delayed again?
>>55040880
post the entry level trash gpu scores
>>55040843
>are you mentally ill?
Are you a complete fucking retard?
the 1070 is a mid end card, the 1080 is high end, 1080ti will be enthusiast
Compared to the 1070 the 480 is a low end budget card, nothing more
>>55040880
>using Homefront: The Revolution as benchmark
>>55040907
an a8 and a10 can match an r7 240. Intel can't yet, unless you get the iris pro.
>>55040849
This, I have a 1440p screen with freesync. One 1070 isn't enough for high fps 1440p. I'm praying to AMD that vega would be ≈ a 1080 for $400. Then rip nvidia.
>>55040900
Nope, just another rumor. We've had rumors about Zen being delayed to 2017 going as far back as 2015, so you really shouldn't put too much weight on it. We've known for quite a while that we'll get a few high end desktop chips towards the end of 2016 and that the main rollout will be in 2017.
>>55040918
>mfw a 980 in 2016 is low end
>>55040919
What game do you want to see?
>>55040918
>Nvidia says the 1070 is midrange so it must be, regardless of the cost and the price/performance being offered by the competition
The low end of this generation is going to gtx970 levels of performance. RX 480 is going to be on par with an r9 nano and outdo a 980
>>55040918
>the 1070 is a mid end card
At almost $400 it's not mid range, it's lower upper range. The RX 480 on the other hand IS mid range along with other cards in it's price class.
>>55040943
>The low end of this generation is going to gtx970 levels of performance
So the 480
>>55040946
>amd apu on a weak ass cpu and ddr3 is doubling the performance of i7 6770k
Holy shit.
Can't wait for ddr4 APUs.
>>55040622
could this potentially mean that their cards will be a fuckload cheaper than their comparable nvidia counterparts?
>>55040938
FUD. Where did they say it's delayed to 2017? Summit Ridge is taped out.
>>55040679
No but you will need it for Zen and to take full advantage of Vega.
>>55040865
integrated graphics are barely better than last gen consoles unless you mean some AMD APUs
>>55040959
>At almost $400 it's not mid range
Price does not determine whether a card is midrange or not, it's performance relative to other cards of it's generation do, and then the 1070 clearly is a mid range card, like the 970 was before it
>>55040961
Nice replying there champ. Also, do some homework.
no one is going to buy their shitty 390 rebrand
>>55040961
>not realizing the 480 has 5+ tflops of compute
>not realizing the current 390 beats out the 980
>not realizing how much crimson drivers improved
>not realizing /thread
>>55040984
I don't think you know what rebrand means...
>>55040982
>do some homework
I have, and it's quite clear that the 480 will offer 390/970 performance
>>55040662
>>55040685
yeah I was looking into the r9 390 when the 1070 was announced. the R9's price is in free fall right now. Should I simply go with that, if I'm playing 1080p only?
>>55040993
Not realizing nobody cares about last years mid range performance
>>55040979
Are you honestly suggesting Nvidia could star charging $1000 for their cards and that would still be mid-range? Price is the most important factor m8
>>55040717
>Ballin with a qt on the dancefloor.
Teach me your ways loomaster!
>>55041025
>gtx 560ti
>charge 100.000$, it's now the most high end card ever made
>>55040849
It averages 111fps at 1080p. It'll be a noticeable upgrade over 60fps if you want to max everything out and stay at 111fps, or you can easily achieve 144fps by turning down a few settings.
>>55041024
>390
>970
>midrange
You seem to be confused.
>>55041002
>implying the 390 and 970 perform the same
As someone else just mentioned, a card with 5+ tflops is not going to perform below or at the level of a 970, as much as people would like to believe that so they can justify buying a 1070..
>>55040979
>Price does not determine whether a card is midrange or not
Ummm.... Yes it does. Price is exactly what determines which "range" a card belongs to.
>>55041003
No. Wait for the 480. Better power performance and new tech.
>>55041038
MAD POORFAG DETECTED
>>55040959
Unless there's more than 1 card below the 480, the 480 is not mid range but low end.
>>55040993
This. /thread indeed.
>>55040946
>>55040880
>6770k
Whats that again?
That dark souls graph is also so wrong. There is no 6770k and integrated graphics on skylake chips are HD 530/510. Sure it's nice to see that APU graphics beat intel's graphics, but Intel pretty much puts the HD 530 on anything above Pentium G4500, aside from P variants with HD 510.
here's the deal
5TFLOPS+
6.5TFLOPS
is 1.5TFLOPS or less worth 200 USD?
>>55041045
No it doesn't, just like a fiat panda does not suddenly turn into a muscle car when you charge a million dollars for it.
The performance is what matters
>>55040998
Don't bother with this type of idiot. To them anything using GCN cores is a "rebrand" despite Nvidia has been using different versions of CUDA cores since the GeForce 8800.
>>55041003
Wait till the 480 reviews come in before buying anything right now. And yes I'm planning on buying dirt cheap 390's or 480's. Vega and the RX490 ≈ 1080 rumors have my jimmies rustled tho.
Unless the 390's are sub $225 don't buy.
>>55041045
Eeuhm not it doesn't, or do you also think a fiat panda magically turns into a muscle car when you charge a million dollars for it?
Performance is the determining factor, obviously
>>55041034
Does that fit into an acceptable price bracket? No. Nice try though.You clearly missed my point that saying a card is 'mid-range' and then pricing it higher than the mid-range pricing bracket doesn't make sense, and means that the card isn't mid-range
>>55041086
I took your argument to an extreme to show it's beyond retarded.
Performance relative to other cards of its generation determines whether a card is midrange or not, not price.
>>55041024
AGAIN HOW IS THE 980 = 390 = 480 LOW RANGE?
>>55041107
You are beyond retarded. How to people get cards? Do they magically wish them into their computer? Or do they pay for them? The performance of the card is tailored to the pricing bracket you fucking pleb. If every person were prepared to pay any amount of money for a video card then there would only be one video card.
>>55041079
>>55041046
thanks for the advice.
>>55041129
People buy new cards when their old ones are too slow. They think about how fast it should be and then buy one in this performance bracket. That's why performance is the important factor for categorization of cards and not price.
>>55041068
>No it doesn't
Yes it does and I love the strawman where you try to imply that I'm saying price determines performance. Price is what determines what range a card belongs to, performance is generally irrelevant, but companies generally try to price their cards competitively so you rarely get mid range performance in a high end or vice versa.
Seriously thou, with it's price tag the GTX 1070 is a HIGH end card even if it had completely shit performance.
R9 480x seems so much like a rebranded R9 Nano.
>>55041107
>Nvidia fan boy's price/performance reality get rattled by team red undercutting the 980 by $400+ bucks
Scared now? Just wait till AMD's cheap beast's are unleashed. That's why the RX480 is a huge deal.
>>55041082
>>55041068
I love how you try to samefag, but accidentally used the same strawman twice.
>>55041177
When people buy a new card they generally have a limit for what they can afford. They may want the fastest card out there, but if they can't afford one, then they're not going to be able to get one.
>i-its 970 levels of p-performance
980 BTFO
>>55041180
>with it's price tag the GTX 1070 is a HIGH end card even if it had completely shit performance
>HIGH end card even if it had completely shit performance
>HIGH end card
>shit performance
We need to raise awareness of this horrible illness. Nvidia flameboys think price = performance vs reality where performance is divided by price.
>>55041177
I'll use a hypothetical for you.
Let's say that gtx 950 and r7 370 levels of performance cost $100. And every other card on the market above that costs $800+ gtx 950 and r7 370 are now both the low and mid end because very few people wish to pay $800+ for a graphics card. The only people that do are enthusiasts. Now that means the 960 is high end and the 970/980 are enthusiast. Relative performance doesn't mean shit, as the gap between the 950 and 960 is pretty small, what matters is the big price difference.
This already exists. What's the difference between the titan x and 980ti? The performance is almost identical, but the price isn't. Only serious enthusiasts are prepared to pay the massive price difference that marks the titan x as an extremist card rather than your average high end card, despite only getting really small performance increases.
>>55041257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUG9jgERvEQ
>changed cooler to avoid AMD police
>you can hear AMD police in the background trying to trace him
yeah why the fuck would you change a cooler to avoid NDA? seems like bullshit
>>55041257
There is some speculation that it may be fake. Wait for real benchmarks.
>>55041269
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rG-_mzIho5g
Keep up fuccboi
I've got 770 and it does okay, worth the upgrade I guess right
>>55041265
>>55040471
They claim 2 in crossfire will match a 1080's performance for over $200 less. In DX12 anyway
>>55041226
The reason why people don't buy the fastest card is not because they don't have an extra $1000 in their bank account but because they don't need that extra performance.
>>55041298
If it does ok why bother? I am upgrading from a 560ti. Do not fell pressured to upgrade if you don't need to.
>>55041293
same card, same dude, same benchmark
wtf are you on about?
>>55041298
Got 770 too. It has served me well but I guess its time.
ITs either 1070 or 480. Feel reluctant to spend so fucking much on 1070.
>>55041307
>In one game, which nobody plays
Everyone knows crossfire is absolutely garbage when it comes to issues, some games simply own't acknowledge the crossfire
And then add in screen tearing and microstutter, it's just not worth it.
Spending all that money to have a rig that stutters and plays poorly is just..bad.
>480 will trade blows with 970
>970 a broken card that works only on gameworks games
>970 a game that automaticly was reducing graphic options on mirrors edge to get better fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
>>55040411
You are completely deluded.
Most Intel integrated graphics are just on par with my 2009 Radeon HD4870
>>55041339
>not realizing
Crimson drivers son.
Looks like the RX480 may be closer to a 980ti. Lol rip nvidia. Will the 490 be 12tflops+? Lol
>>55041320
basically same problem. the price tag makes the 480 so damn tempting. I gotta wait for the prices in EU land though. But just imagine, 2 r480 for less than one 1070. I might as well throw in a new power suplly and still save money
>>55041339
Not sure if you saw but they're changing the way crossfire works in DX12 to deal with stuttering and scaling. Check it out.
Not sure if it will be effective but I'm eagerly anticipating the results of some benchmarks.
Either way DX11 needs to die faster.
I have a friend returning from the US on 10th of July, do you think aftermarket cooled rx480s will be out by then ?
>>55041107
>>55041177
>>55041034
Still waiting on your response to this matey boy
>>55041265
>>55041388
GOD DAMMIT JUST WAIT ONE MONTH FOR THE RELEASE. I'm waiting till October for vega the "high-end" chips.
>>55041375
Price were leaked by online retailer. See pic.
>>55041389
Possibly. Don't hold your breath tho.
>>55041389
There is a rumor that the card will hit the streets en masse on the 28th June.
>>55041406
It's always a waiting game with these damn GPUs. I still have this old 560ti and been waiting for the right card at the right time.
This feels like the year, hopefully.
>>55041394
tl;dr
>>55041388
I mean, if people adopt dx12 as the new standard AND amd fix the issues then that might be a cool alternative.
"if" being a huge "if", I know nvidia work closely with a lot of game devs to make sure they get nvidia only things prioritised.
>>55041439
Then why should anyone trust your opinion on anything if reading 150 words is a task beyond your ability?
>>55040195
In your case wait for benches and know that the RX480 will be under the 1070. How ever the 480 is $230 vs $375(Which its currently selling for over $400) I'm personally going to get the 480 cause $250 aint shit for a card then move to Vega next year.
>>55041459
most of the big games are already on dx12..
>>55041459
Seeing as how AMD has had their tech instilled into the both future APIs (DX12 based on Mantle tech, as is Vulkan) they may have an edge they've never had before. It's just a waiting game now, gotta see those numbers.
>>55040701
>>55040702
As if the previous versions of windows were not cancer. Windows 7 you get 3rd party spyware. Windows 10 they integrated the spyware for better performance.
>>55041309
Right... Keep telling yourself that people don't have bills to pay and other expenses and that they just keep extra money lying around for no good reason.
>>55041489
No, ashes of singularity and rise of the tombraider are the only 2 games out which actually have directx12 support.
>>55041434
I have a GT240. I should be the one complaining.
I just bought a new nzxt case and evga g2 850w supernova power supply.
I'm likely gonna crossfire 480's or one 490. I really wish the zen core exceeds with single core performance but I'm likely gonna get a 1151 z170 board and a kabylake i7. I don't need x99 and 6core broadwell-e i7-6800k.
>>55041520
I'm planning on doing gpu pass through.
>>55041530
and Doom?
>>55041530
rotr is broken i dont count it
also
me2 is dx12
bf1 will be too
deus ex is too
even the newest update on gtav is bringing some of its features
literally everything is adopting it quickly
>>55041525
>>55041525
Who doesn't keep extra money around? You do know that funerals easily cost $20000+ these days and you never know when you will die? I couldn't live with good conscience if I knew that my relatives could suddenly be hit by such a huge financial burden.
>>55041588
>being a normie with lots of money and responsibilities
>>55041588
>funeral
>>55041548
I'm not familiar with GPU pass through but it looks interesting.
>>55041530
Stop being a fagget. First google link show this.
>>55041553
doom had vulkan only for nvidia
i doubt we will ever see a vulkan path any time soooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnn.....................
just like we never saw for ark survival or arma....
>>55041588
funerals are free here lol.
>>55041661
>cutting out the parts where it says the game doesn't currently have dx12 support but patches are "in the works" or "at an unknown date" which means no dx12 support yet.
You ain't slick kid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
Only a very select few games actually use dx12 right now.
>>55040195
>1080
Gross.
>>55041409
plebbit has already made a comparison between each European country.
Its going to be 280 for me.
>>55041588
If you're paying $20.000 for a funeral then you're getting ripped off and very badly so. Also, most grown-ups have such a thing as life insurance so if you croak before your time, insurance will more than cover for your funeral even if you're getting ripped off.
>>55041842
Still €220 cheaper than a €500 1070. Not a bad deal for an always +60fps 1080p card.
>>55041874
>Implying anyone on /g/ is really a grown-up
:^)
>>55041777
you stupid fucking cunt i was not being slick....i was not going to launch photoshop to prove a point on /g/ I told you first link I sourced it. If i wanted to be slick I would not say first link on google you fucking cunt
>>55041359
>that 40 fps drop when the 3.5 kicks in
brutal.
since gpus are moving towards high and faster vram 970 owners are going to get totally screwed over the next year.
>>55040211
>>55040173
>>55040124
>>55040165
Holy fucking shit some of these posts are word-for-word identical to a previous RX 480 thread
What the fuck is going on?
>>55042000
Btw the 480 falls between the 980 and 980ti
>>55041874
A life insurance is not worth it. On average you have to pay far more money into the insurance then you get after you die. After all an insurance company don't offer them out of goodwill but because they want to make money. Just look at their salaries.
>>55041359
>reducing graphic options on mirrors edge to get better fps
This is a feature to ensure our users have an optimal gaming experience.
>>55042083
Nice bait
>>55042016
Probably because every GPU thread is the same thing over and over but for some reason I never get tired of it :^)
>>55042016
Nvidia brainwashing
>>55042105
>>55042126
I'm talking like identical punctuation, identical cases (capital letter usage, etc.)
There are legitimately shill bots posting on 4chan now???
>>55042146
Possible. I was on 4+4chin /tech/ till the site went to shit.
>>55040113
So is this thing just gonna shit on my less then a year old 390 at 2/3 the cost? Or is it just gonna be about the same performance wise?
>>55042174
Wait until the benchmarks tomorrow.
It amazes me that this 4WESOME tripcunt is still around.
>>55042204
In every thread. The definition of cancer.
is a non reference card ok to get guys?
>>55042191
This that's why I canceled my 390 order. I'm willing to buy it off you for $180 right now anon. Yeah the 480 my be closer to a 980ti if the rumors about the overclocks are true. I'll even pay $300 for a liquid cooled 480 if it performs near a 980-980ti. Talk about undercutting.
>>55042270
Depends on the maker and your case. If you have a tight SFF case a blower/reference card is often recommended for instance.
>>55042312
i just don't know whether to wait for non reference 480s or not, mainly because i can tell they'll blow up the prices.
Should I sell my 970 and get a RX 480? I think that 8GB of VRAM is much more future proof, and better just in case I want to crossfire in the future.
>>55042366
Yes, sell it as fast as you can. The resell value is only falling these days.
>>55042204
>>55042232
If you're wondering why he's that way
>>55042348
Buy a reference card, then wait and see. If prices go nuts, keep it. If prices stay reasonable return it and get a non-ref version.
>>55042366
>>55042392
Indeed. Dump that thing ASAP. You should have sold it a couple weeks ago. I sold my 390 then for over $230. Now you can get a brand new 390 for that price and it's only going to tank more as we get closer to the 480 release.
>>55042146
They're not bots, they're active marketing teams, I didn't save it, but there's an image floating around of a viral firm that goes on all social media and imageboards, if you think Nvidia wouldn't hire them you're out of your fucking mind
I sold my r9 380 for 170$ couple days ago, feels good /g/. The thing that baffles me is that he knew about the upcoming 480, he asked my why I'm selling it and I was like I'm looking to upgrade and he said "you should look into the 480", anyone minds explaining wtf?
>>55042457
he got a video card that meets his needs for $170
so i ask you who is really the fool in this scenario?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUG9jgERvEQ&feature=youtu.be
>NVIDIOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>55042515
but the 480 is only 30$ more
>>55042515
you cuz you don't have a titan black'd lmao
>>55042392
>>55042423
Yea I wanna dump it quick, I have this variant of the card. How much can I fetch for it?
Are the 480s gonna be small because I have a Optiplex 7010?
>>55042523
Say thank you.
>>55042527
Maybe hes tight on cash.
>>55042523
If this is legit, thats completely insane, just from going to 14nm from 28
>>55042585
>>55042523
>>55042628
Is this for the 480? And if so how bad is it?
It's pretty gud, and this isn't even DX12 (i think), which AMD is supposed to excel at
>>55042585
Thank you based Pajeet
>>55041409
>Price were leaked by online retailer. See pic.
What the fuck are EUR/LT?
>>55042348
Wait till details drop about the higher end card.
>>55040124
Entry-level is 100-150$. (260/X, 265, 360, 370, 750/Ti, 950)
The RX480 will be a (lower) mid-range card.
You don't have any clue what you're talking about.
>>55042600
This. This is what nvidia fan boys don't understand.
>>55040641
Hes 16 years old.
>>55040124
I'm looking for that mid-range price, not 500 fucking euros, nvidiot
>>55040124
>mid-range card (1070)
>is probably going to cost around 500€ at launch in most of Europe
Damn, I wish I didn't live in one of the worst third world countries in Europe and that I could agree.
WAIT UNTIL DETAILS ABOUT THE 490/Vega? ARE OUT. Amd are rushing vega for October. Summit ridge is taking a back seat till kaby lake is out.
If the 490 delivers better performance then the 1070 (since nvidia gimped it so it can't outpace the 1080) around 350 bucks then Nvidia will literally need a suicide watch.
>>55042953
>around 350 bucks
>almost same or even better performance for 100 less
jeez, what should i do?
>>55040411
>>55041360
>>55040865
>>55040907
You're absolutely retarded. Even the Iris Pro 6200 can't beat a Geforce 750, and the Iris 580 isn't going to perform wonders either - completely disregarding its price in the first hand.
DDR4 can lift some memory bottleneck, but not eternally.
iGPUs have a long way to go, and by the time they can match some discrete GPUs, we'll have something better. There'll be always a constraint through thermodynamics.
AMD's 460 (If it is going to be a cut-down Polaris 11) is very likely not going to perform below 370/950-tier. Enjoy muh Iris Pro from Kaby/Cannonlake barely matching the aforementioned for only 950$.
>>55042953
are you seriously saying that vega a chip that amd said it will have 15 to 18 billion transistors will actually compete with a mere 1070 or 1080?
you do understand that vega has nothing to do with the polaris lineup? they arent 490 or whatever
polaris is to replace everything that reach the perfomance of fury lines and vega is to pick up from the fury x and above
basicly
polaris 260 to fury/x line (dont forget we havent seen the full uncut polaris yet)
vega furyx -> above
>>55043033
The 460 will be the fastest Polaris 11.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2849/radeon-r7-460
The 440 and 450 will be cut-down Polaris 11.
>>55043097
Yep and these will get stuffed into laptop also.
>>55042953
Please no one pay attention to this guy. Hes posting news from blogs with links to aliens living under the earth.
>>55041177
This is not at all how it goes. People never have a limit on how fast their computers should be, the one and only limit is price. If there would be no price difference do you think people would rather get the weaker ones, because for some ridiculous reason that's what they want?
>>55040113
970 and 980 havent been manufactured for months now
>>55043200
People certainly have a minimum performance limit. If I want a card for VR then I will not buy a card slower than a 390 or 3.5 even if it offers better performance/$.
>>55043097
I guess it's true, only 16 ROPs :v(
So Polaris 11 will be the successor of Bonaire. I was expecting another Pitcairn/Curacao.
At least it seems to clock at 1400MHz, so we'll likely still see 370/265/7850-tier performance.
>>55043378
>R7 460
>50W TDP
>2,508.8 GFLOPS
vs
>GTX 960
>120W TDP
>2,308.1 GFLOPS
If this website is correct then this card is amazing.
>>55043200
>What is a mac
>>55043193
xD this is actually party true.
>>55043037
I put a ? next to vega since details are sparse.
>>55040918
>mid end
I hate this Nvidia meme. *70 is high range you fuckers. Both the *70 and *80 are high range, *Ti and Titans are for enthusiasts.
>>55043498
well since they said it will be up to 18 billion transistors (3 billions more than a p100) its safe to say those cards arent for either mid or high they are purely enthusiast level at least..
also lisa said no vega this year amd wont do the same mistake as they did with hbm1
>>55043519
This
Still using a 6870
Still plays everything on the market on medium settings
Finally i can upgrade, after 5 stagnant years the wait is over.
>we know nothing about Vega except it it will have HBM2 and is probably fattest Polaris
>people actually think they're going to pay less than $600 for those cards
I'm waiting for Vega, but I'm not delusional. If they release some cards with GDDR5, then ok, but we know shit about what's getting released.
>>55043563
>>55043545
Vega is being launched next to battlefield 1 confirmed.
https://techreport.com/news/30113/rumor-amd-may-pull-vega-gpu-forward-for-an-october-launch
https://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-vega-now-scheduled-for-october-launch.html
http://videocardz.com/59808/amd-vega-gpu-allegedly-pushed-forward-to-october
>>55043420
Don't forget that especially on GCN, Flops don't necessarily translate to rendering performance. Fiji (Fury/X) also carries significantly more GFLOPS than Nvidia's GM200 (980Ti/Titan X) - and so does Bonaire against the GM107/206 (750/Ti). Yet Fiji is generally slower on anything less than 3840X2160, and Bonaire trading severe blows with the GM107.
If we compare the GFLOPS to other GCN cards, it will put us slightly below a 370/270X. However, we're still at 16ROPs with 96GB/s on the 460, whilst the latter operate with 32 on 179.2GB/s. We'll see how it plays out.
Might be nice for computing though.
>>55043611
>allegedly
That's what we call a rumour, untill AMD verifies it, that's what it is
