i7-920 here
>(can overclock to compete with latest top i7 gen)
no problem gaming
temps under load are above 80C (stock fan)
cpu is made to withstand up to 100c
never outdated :^)
>inb4 replace thermal paste and cooler
I can do it but its too much work for maybe 2fps more
So why exactly has progress on consumer grade processors slowed so much? Will I be using my skylake i5 for the next ten years or something?
i7-950 here. Probably upgrading once Summit-Ridge hits the shelves
>>55038052
Athlon x4 860k, here.
y'all bitches.
>>55038052
>can oc to compete with latest i7
Your piece of shit will barely beat an i5 4460 in multithread if you're lucky.
t. Lynnfield owner.
>>55038113
i googled shit up. believe it or not it when oc'd it can compete with the top 5 i7's on the market right now
I know it's stupid , BUT remember that intel's focus was on energy usage for modern i7's
also my top priority is that my oc'd 750ti is not bottlenecked
I will have to oc for the rx480 tho I think
I got a dedicated gaming pc connected like a console
I'm still with an i7-920 as well, running at around ~3.6GHz with 24GB RAM.
Unlike OP, I don't really have the urge to "compete with" anything in particular, nor justify my current tech or prove that meets some arbitrary standard. It meets my use cases, for now, and might not meet someone else's. Such is life.
What may drive me to buy a new platform (cpu, mobo, ram) in the next year or so is the limitations of the motherboard's X58 chipset. I am running two PCIe SSDs already but can't boot off of them, and the board has a mixture of SATA II and SATA III ports (on account of III being new-ish in 2010).
So yeah, great processor, this ol' i7-920. Six years now. Longest I've ever used the same processor for a daily driver. And it's not the CPU that's will drive me to change, it's advances in other parts of the machine for which the Mobo is insufficient.
>>55038052
Get a better heat sink idiot. It'll last even longer
>>55038052
I am running a 10 year old Xeon x5470 @4.35Ghz with a GTX 970 and I get an average of 50-60FPS on most games using ultra settings with 1080p, your chip should be about 10% better clock for clock
>>55038052
May nigga
I'm still rocking the same processor since 2010 with my gtx 260
It's such a good processor
>>55038140
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-870-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700/m961vs3515
It is literally slower than Sandy bridge.
Is 4820k old?
Because I have it
>>55038052
>Overclocking i7-920
You don't pay the bills I assume
>>55038225
i dont live in 'murrca AND dont be a stupid child; it would cost you money if you never switch off pc. but why would i do that? just to shorten my gpu's life?
>>55038069
So you replace thermal paste and get better heatsinks to gain fps? Good riddance you idiot, it's not going to last much longer going like that. See you on a new motherboard and cpu purchase soon.
>>55038243
You're an idiot. My i7 870 draws almost 240w on its own, not including my other components. That's a big difference to an i3 6100 that will offer better gaming performance thanks to significantly better ipc and ddr4.
>>55038334
And let's not forget the i3 will be consuming one fifth as much power under load.
i5 3570k here, great regret not building i7 3820.
>>55038334
It will be idle more than active and that graph shows 87w idle FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM
as in LEAVING PC ON = FUCKING LIGHTBULB.
860 i7 here, no reason to upgrade
>>55038140
>when oc'd it can compete with the top 5 i7's on the market right now
Delusional shit like this makes me laugh. You can't just be happy with the fact that your old CPU is pretty good for its age and still viable for most things today. No, it's got to be EVERY BIT AS GOOD as the latest i7 and no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince you otherwise.
>>55038052
i7-870 here :)
>>55038393
Didn't your parents teach you to turn off the lights when you're not using them? Also, why the fuck are you still using ancient filament bulbs?
>>55038393
135w vs 75w
That's an 80% increase.
And if that's nothing, then why are households no longer using incandescent bulbs? :')
It's easy when your parents pay your electricity bill.
>>55038409
This. It's about as fast as an i3 6100 now. I love how he's completely ignoring any performance improvements.
>Intel's focus was on energy usage
Next he'll be saying an overclocked q6600 is just as good as the latest and greatest i5s because muh efficiency.
If an i5 2500 is better than his processor, how far behind an i7 6700 it must be...
Don't get me wrong, my i7 870 is still performing great, but any idiot should know that an i5 6600 will be a massive upgrade in both performance and efficiency since I've got it running at 4.2ghz.
I7 920 master rAce reportIngen in.
3570k isn't exactly old but I still wish I had a skylake with HT for muh gayms.
>>55038464
>overclocked q6600
was such a based chip. perhaps il buy another 775 mobo someday
Mine had been unused for a while. Recently I bought a new heatsink and installed gentoo my spare compooter with the i7 920 in it.
Makes me think it was a stupid decision to even upgrade my cpu around 2012.
>>55038485
I upgraded from an e8400 to a 771 xeon and gave it to my friend.
Honestly though the e8400 is still plenty for day to day tasks.
>>55038458
I use LED bulbs.
I leave my 4.8ghz i7 2600k on most of the day. My UPS gives a wattage reading from the wall. Here is a picture I just took with the monitor off.
It's fucking nothing. My electricity bill last month was $24.
Unless you're idling in a mmorpg or something even nehalem power management is fine.
I7 860. The only "problem" is that speedstep does not work in hackintosh
>>55038052
i7-920 here too.
Nearly eight years old and still handles everything I throw at it.
>>55038052
2600k reporting in.
OC at 4.2Ghz runs nice and snooth with a Noctua cooler. Paired with a 970 I still can play pretty much any game on high settings. Based Intel.
i7 950 unicorn reporting in.
Only game that is forcing me to update is that shit fallout 4 and it's reliance on CPU more than GPU.
>>55038052
Never below 60c (laptop cooling though) but only have had to replace the HDD.
Still good enough for streaming games from the main pc so I can lay in bed with a controller and play games through the projector.
>fuck your jewtel
>>55038464
Power costs 27c per kilowatt hour where I live
If the difference between a new CPU and an old one is 60W then at that rate, leaving a computer running for four hours a day it would take seven and a half years to save the $180 for a new CPU
Average cost of power in the USA is more like 13c per kilowatt hour vs the cost of an i3 6100 being $110, which pushes the time it would take out even further
And that's not counting the cost of a new motherboard, the cheapest 100 series motherboard I could find was 65 freedom dollars, so let's make that 15 years to recover the cost of the upgrade
>>55038052
>outdated
I had a i7 950 @ 4.3 Ghz until 2 months ago. My Arma 3 fps went from about 20 to over 70 just by replacing the CPU. Don't fool yourself, your 920 can't compete with current cpus.
>>55038458
>>55038464
>>55038409
>>55039284
>Fear that consumes a lot of energy.
>Buys JEWTEL which is 4 times more expensive than AMD.
>Fuck your logic
>>55039284
You're forgetting that the new cpu will also perform better, and that most people overclock their older CPUs.
See >>55038334 for the effects of overclocking on the first gen i series processors.
240w for the overclocked i7 870, or 80w for the i5 6600, or 50w for the i3?
That's a much bigger difference.
>>55039347
I got my cpu+mobo for less than a hundred dollars 3 years ago and it's a hell of a lot better performing than an i3 3220.
I3 + mobo would have been A$260, the i7 was A$95.
Considering I only use it a couple of hours every few nights for video games, power consumption isn't a serious issue for me. Probably 6-7 hours a week usage.
If it was 4 hours a day(28 hours a week) then I'd obviously be more concerned with power consumption.
>>55039370
I've left mine at stock, so I don't know why you think oc is relevant to me.
And I'm not the same guy you were yelling at before, but where you said
>it's easy when your parents pay your electricity bill
I'm afraid it was too stupid to leave it unanswered
15 years anon, you haven't even lived that long, it's not a short period of time, and that was being very generous with the maths, if one would run their computer 3.5 hours on weekends only, it would take 60 years
>>55038464
>power consumption matters
>>55039427
>power consumption doesn't matter
Consider yourself filtered for being a particularly useless tripfag
>>55039428
I assumed it was oc since op said
>(can overclock to compete with the latest top i7 gen)
And also under load often because
>temps under load are above 80C
And
>no problem gaming
>>55039441
Power consumption matters depending on how much you use your pc. If you're too stupid to gather that from my posts them I'm glad you're filtering me so I won't have to see your shit again.
>never outdated
>can't use ddr4
You tried, m8
>>55039478
In before the dank 'memory speed has no effect on gaymes' meme.
>>55039469
My CPU is doing fine gaming at stock desu, my shit laptop can't handle the jandal, but I'm yet to find a game that can't be played on my desktop
To be fair I don't play a lot of games, the newest game I've played is probably far cry 4, not counting overwatch
>>55039507
Mines still performing great at 4.2ghz, but if I'm going to use it more than once every 2 or 3 days I'll definitely be more concerned about power consumption.
Energy consumption might matter less in the US, but it's 33c here so running my computer on load often would bump up costs quite a bit.
I'd probably be fine on stock too, but at least my room is warm when I go to bed :')
>>55039284
>tfw 3c per kwh + 80 dollar credit if i use 1000-2000kwh
>tfw i can never get over 700kwh
>>55039498
now post the same benchmark with a dedicated gpu
>>55039710
Not him, but there was a recent video by some English guy where he showed a significant improvement in fps with high speed ram
Found the video
https://youtu.be/3G-7bfPG2dE
>>55039746
yeah, with a low end i3 : S
>>55039791
Any cpu will benefit from low ram.
>>55039798
Fast ram*
Is i7 960 with nVidia 650ti boost good setup?
>>55040098
Not 650 but 5770
>>55038517
which xeon?
wait what, the i7 920 uses a lot of power? i leave that shit on all week
>>55040470
This one.
Xeon X5450 Processor 3.0GHz/12MB/1333MHz LGA775 CPU Close to Core 2 Quad q9650 works on LGA775 mainboard no need adapter
http://s.aliexpress.com/eqY7baaM
(from AliExpress Android)
No oc, handles bf4 fine on high settings with a HD6870 for 1080p60fps.
>>55040543
I have this one >>55038191 I may upgrade when Zen comes out, but for being a 10 year old chip, it is not bad. Why did you stop using it and what did you upgrade to?
>>55040589
Upgraded to my current i7 870, because I found a good deal.
I wanted to join my friends in battlefield 4 and my pc couldn't handle it very well.
>e8400+HD5770
Got my i7 870+mobo between A$90 and A$100(don't remember exactly)~ 3 years ago, and my gtx680 4GB for $A50 last year because some retard leaked his custom water loop on it. Pic related is my 680, still works great.
The 5770 was actually able to handle bf4 on medium settings with the i7 until I got my 680.
>>55040533
Seems like you are so concerned about power consumption anon.
I really regret cheaping out and buying the i5 750 over the i7 920 back in the day. Assuming the mobo held up I probably would've upgraded to a "cheap" 970 later down the line and still been running it.
>>55040898
My only complaint with this 775 setup is the price of DDR2, I was going to upgrade to 4x4GB but the price ranges between $250 to $500 if it wasn't for that I would stick with this system.
>>55038052
>(can overclock to compete with latest top i7 gen)
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>55038052
>(can overclock to compete with latest top i7 gen)
It literally can't you fucking retard.
>>55038191
120 watts at stock.
>@4.35Ghz
Where are you getting the cooling and power to use this beast
>>55038052
I currently have an i3 3220 and want to upgrade the cpu. I basically have two choices, save loads of money buying a second hand i5 3570k or something similar. Or else I can get a new motherboard with an i5 6500/ i5 6600k.
The main thing I don't understand is how direct x 12 will change things. Will it be better to save my money and get a i5 3570k or will this cripple me for future direct x 12 games. I know that the i5 3570k is not compatible with DX12 but I don't knoe the full ramifications of what this means.
>>55039321
920 fag who made the switch to a i5 4690 here back in 2014
It was night as day.
Dont get me wrong the i7 920 was a absolute beast and i had it since it launched but it really cant compete anymore
>>55038074
Intel has then hill. AMD is currently charging in. High prices will be lost.
>>55038052
Looking back I regret not getting the Sandy Bridge i7 instead of the i5, it's holding up much better than the 2500k.
>people complaining about power consumption for a desktop
Do you people live in Germany? Are you mining bitcoins with a CPU?
I don't see how even an old Nehalem i7 system can use more than 100 watts at idle
Realistically it'll be appliances like your fridge that use the most power, upgrading those will save you more money than upgrading to a new desktop
>>55041537
I less efficient CPU means a higher wattage and usually more expensive PSU (regardless of how infrequently it may be at 100% load the PSU still needs to support it), better cooling which could be more expensive or louder, and more heat dumped into the surrounding room.
I used to have two 95w TDP Xeons and two 290s and that shit would heat up my fairly small room significantly even under low usage, then I switched to an 88w i7 that performs even better and the heat isn't quite so bad now.
>a 8 year old CPU getting beat out by a 5 year old CPU
>>55041640
>Technology advances
What is your point?
>>55041608
So you somehow saved money buy buying a new PSU that's rated at a lower wattage?
>>55041353
I was not aware dx12 was cpu dependent. I thought the gpu was the only hardware that needed to be dx12 compliant. Anywho here's 6600k for ya to consider.
>>55041654
my point is that the 920 is dated tech even 3 years after its release,
i7-3770K here, runs 55 degrees under load.
>>55041665
No, I've kept the same PSU. However if I'd have gone with the lower wattage CPU first I could've gotten a cheaper PSU.
>>55041697
Still runs modern games just fine 8 years later, I don't see the issue
i7-5820k reporting in here. I have an "old" i7 3770 tho. Both do everything I need them too and more.
>>55041734
Except getting a lower wattage CPU back then would have meant getting a shittier CPU
>>55041739
And for that extra little performance you get the privileged of spending ~$400
>>55041681
Oh right, maybe what I read was referring to using the CPU to render graphics
>>55038052
i7-2600k. Highly considering upgrading to either an i5-6600k or i7-6700k. Don't really need to, but it would be neat to have two pretty good computers. I could use the 2600k for something.
is it good choice?
>>55041752
But we're not back then, last time I checked it was 2016.
The argument was about whether using a more power efficient CPU was worthwhile, the options being using something that is old and uses a lot of power or something newer than that uses less power for the same performance.
>>55038052
Still pretty good, OP.
>>55041764
>$400
Since when does a 4130 cost $400 ?
it beats out the 920's OC score and costs $120 at launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSD40aoNRIc
OC it holds up pretty well. Anyone consider maybe why a "old" cpu can keep up is software is not really becoming as demanding at the same rate of cpu advancement? It's like we have come to a stage where most any cpu can become "good enough" for daily use?
>>55041798
Upgrading to a modern computer to save money on electricity is stupid, you wouldn't break even in at least 10 years
I already said it in an earlier post, the bid electricity users in a house are appliances that run all the time like fridges
>>55041788
anandtech has a good review about those cpus..
new higher end intel cpus are coming out shortly, maybe they will drive the prices down of the 6600/6700
>When we ratchet the CPUs back up to their regular, stock clockspeeds, we see a gap worth discussing. Overall at stock, the i7-6700K is an average 37% faster than Sandy Bridge in CPU benchmarks, 19% faster than the i7-4770K, and 5% faster than the Devil’s Canyon based i7-4790K.
>>55041843
>720p
please, m8te find something better
>>55041806
Literally 1 benchmark in GIMP
>>55041805
>45nm
>>55041860
Intel never cuts the price of their processors significantly. If its in the box, its msrp.
>>55041860
6700k was 315 on jewegg yesterday
>>55041935
some places have it even cheaper ;)
>>55038534
>I leave my 4.8ghz i7 2600k on most of the day. My UPS gives a wattage reading from the wall. Here is a picture I just took with the monitor off.
You know it doesn't run at that speed all the time right ??
>>55042029
Im not sure if I should be jealous of your retail employment, or sympathetic
>>55042111
just get your friends to sign up, as long as you are discrete about it the chances of you being caught is slim.
Also don't be stupid and try to resell it shortly after you get it.
intel has a list of all the SN's that were sent out and people *do* check ebay and other forums to see if people are reselling, if you get caught you get the boot.
>>55042029
send me one i pay you $50 bucks
>>55039565
>quite a bit
>10% of bullshit is still practically nothing
>wahh wahh mommy I'm saving the world by paying out the ass for muh carbon
You people make me sick.
Not even a i7, but i5 2500k and still having a hard time justifying buying a new cpu.
Will this torment ever end.
>>55042198
When people stop circle jerking over 5% increases on benchmarks
>>55041851
And like I said, the money saved on electricity isn't the only advantage. For me it wasn't a factor at all, the cost difference is minimal and I'm not even the one that pays for it.
>>55042327
>the cost difference is minimal and I'm not even the one that pays for it
Time to move out of your mom's basement
>>55042336
He might be a wife's son though.
>>55042336
Yes I live with my parents, the rent is cheap and it allows me more time and money to myself.
>>55042430
>le too smart to be a wage slave man
>>55041255
I am currently using Noctua NH-D14, On Tuesday I plan to lap the x5470 and use Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra for the paste, I am hoping to get this stable at 4.5Ghz
>>55042430
>it allows me more time and money to myself.
is that why you're still using an 8 year old cpu ?
>>55038212
>870
>compared to 920
You do know the 920s were basically the 2011v3 i7s of their day right?
>>55038481
>have 3570k
>bought recently second-hand 3770 (non-K) for 150 eurodollars
>already have a very nice Noctua for cooling
I'm going to keep the 3570k in my closer, in case the i7 shits the bed. Motherboard is quite good, so I hope this setup will last me for some time.
>>55038052
>i7 860
>i7 3770K
>i7 3930K
i think i might have a problem senpai
>>55042627
It's glorious. If I lived on my own I'd have to work almost 3 times as long and wouldn't own anywhere near as much as I do now.
>>55042694
But I'm not. It's barely 2 years old and if I really wanted I could build a 6700k machine but it would have very little improvement.
>upgrading when any high end CPU made in the last decade will play modern games just fine
>>55043019
>filling the void with useless shit
İ7 930 still going strong
>>55043131
literally no reason to upgrade here, senpai
>>55043061
I have many hobbies, some of which are fairly costly. I'd rather spend my money on stuff I enjoy instead of simply having a roof over my head and running water.
>>55043231
Yup, sound financial decisions right there
You'd rather indulge yourself than build your credit and get ahead in life
>>55041867
>It d-doesn't count if I don't like the results!
>>55043294
Not even about credit, how about learning to become independent.
What will OP do when his parents retire/need assistance later in life.
OP makes it seem like people who work cannot do anything else.
>>55043315
>benchmarks
It's like benchracing on /o/
>>55043319
There's nothing wrong with living with your parents, as long as you're actually using that to your advantage
I just bought a house and plan on renting it out while it appreciates in value while I live with my parents and study, a lot more useful than spending the money I saved on dakis and dragon dildos
>>55043294
When it finally comes time to move out I'll already have the things I want, thus I won't need to save money for them again and most of the money I earn can go towards bills.
>>55043319
As above. When I finally move (either when both my parents die or I want to start a family, whichever comes first) I'll need to get more working hours. Other than that I see no large difficulties, I can learn the stuff I'll need to fairly easily (cooking, using a washing machine, etc.), just because I don't currently do it doesn't mean I'm completely incapable.
>>55043359
It may surprise you but not everyone earns enough to buy a house, even my parents have rented for over 30 years (and their parents too). The only other thing I could be doing with my time is working more and I'm not going to do that if I don't need to, I'm good with saving money and living within my means.
>>55043426
>my parents have rented for over 30 years (and their parents too)
What has your family been doing wrong all these years?
>When it finally comes time to move out I'll already have the things I want, thus I won't need to save money for them again and most of the money I earn can go towards bills
I see, you don't bother building credit so you can't get a mortgage with low interest rates
>>55043466
does OP even have a job or any real skills ?
In the future many employers will just turn him because of his age/lack of experience.
>>55043426
You're actually planning on living out your parents lives if you don't get married (which is unlikely for someone with your...choice of lifestyle)?
They will die still washing your socks...
>>55043496
Probably just collects gubment cheques
No one wants to hire a 30 year old with no job experience or any history of any kind even for an entry level position at McDonald's
I run a dual cpu xeon build as a workstation, its got two e5-2670s, five gpus and few hdd pools. It pulls constant 100W. Thats not bad for a 24/7 use.
>>55043466
>What has your family been doing wrong all these years?
We're not rich enough to buy a house outright, very few people are. That means getting a mortgage and being in debt for the rest of your life. I see no point in that unless you want to leave the house to your kids to live in, but with 4 kids that's not going to work out. Then there's the advantages of renting, a lot of maintenance is included in the price and gets taken care of by the council.
>>55043496
Yes I have a job, currently part time but I could easily be full time with my experience and skills.
>>55043518
Well, it depends just on how long they live. I'm one of their youngest children and realistically it wouldn't be all that unlikely if they died within the next 10 years. I'd imagine I'll have a partner within that time and we'll get a place together, if not then yeah I'll still live with my parents when I'm in my mid 30s.
>>55038052
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>55043593
>paying rent is somehow better than paying mortgage
>pay mortgage for 30 years and own a house at the end
>pay rent for 30 years and own nothing
This is why poor people stay poor
>>55043593
>Live off my parents until they die
>Marry some desperate girl who will "help" me buy a place
>Will probably move in with children if they are worked harder than me
>All so I can buy shit I won't care about in 10 years
Just, wow m8.
>>55043593
In 10 years your wife's son will be using all your money to buy vapes for himself and his tranny gf
i3 530 since 2010 :^)
>>55043715
ML/g/
>>55043715
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>55038197
Still love my 260
>>55043625
A mortgage requires a better paying job. We can afford to pay rent for 60 odd years, we can't afford a mortgage for 30. Are you American? Perhaps it's just a British thing but it's really not that unusual for people here to rent. We rent from the council, not some scumbag landlord.
>>55043683
>Live off my parents until they die
With, brah. I'm sorry all you guys despise your parents so much that you can't wait to get away from them, I get on well with mine and neither of us has an issue with how we live.
>Marry some desperate girl who will "help" me buy a place
>Will probably move in with children if they are worked harder than me
If I ever had kids I'd have no problem if they did the same as me, otherwise I wouldn't have them. I probably won't because I don't really have a desire to raise a child.
>All so I can buy shit I won't care about in 10 years
Should I move out within 10 years I'll probably still have a lot of the stuff I currently have, there's not a huge amount that will become useless within that time. Until then I'll continue to enjoy the shit that I wouldn't have if I lived on my own. It's nice to enjoy life instead of just working to live.
>Own a room-heating CPU
>Many many watts
>Modern CPUs use next to no power
>Parents paying for electricity
>Milking them until they die is the plan right now
>Feeling proud of yourself
>Making a thread about how proud of yourself you are
You're a bad person tbqh lad.
>>55043790
>Brits can't even afford a mortgage
Good thing my family moved to Canada, most functioning adults here can afford a mortgage, especially after the Bank of Canada set a super low interest rate standard
>>55043790
I'm also British. It's only common if you live in a council flat.
>Some scumbag landlord
Scorn towards those who were intelligent with their money? (I mean ACTUALLY intelligent, not avoiding paying bills until the point of homeless) Yeah you do sound like the council flat type.
>>55042211
>>>55042198
>When people stop circle jerking over 5% increases on benchmarks
5-15% per year add up eventually.
Actually if you live on a council estate then your cost of living is probably subsidised. So you're living off everyone else as well as your parents.
>>55043880
And the price goes up just as much to compensate, thanks Intel!
Meanwhile there are no real world benefits unless you're using a workstation and actually making money with it, in which case it would be a business expense
>>55043849
3 bedroom house. We're working class earning under 30k a year.
>Scorn towards those who were intelligent with their money?
Not at all. I was just clarifying that renting off the council isn't bad, unlike some landlords who don't give a shit about their tenants.
>>55043952
>entire family earns under £30k a year
>less than $43k a year
A single person I understand, but an entire family? Fucking how? Are all of you disabled? Does your sole breadwinner work at McDonald's?
>>55043916
Even worse
We should let natural selection run its course
>>55043952
Oh sorry a 3 bedroom house that was bought by taxpayers.
> I was just clarifying that renting off the council isn't bad
Why? Because you can keep skipping bills and rent and the Council won't kick you out?
>>55043980
No, my dad. My mum doesn't work. I earn something like 6-7k a year, my brother who also lives here earns somewhere between 20-30k.
>>55044046
>house that was bought by taxpayers.
Are you implying that we don't pay tax? You do realise there are a lot of other things paid for by tax that almost everyone takes advantage of?
>Because you can keep skipping bills and rent and the Council won't kick you out?
We have never missed a rent payment, very rarely do we miss any other form of bill and it's always due to forgetting and not because we don't have the money.
>>55044082
So why are regular landlords scumbags if you're reasonable tenants?
>>55044082
So you dad earns like 5k a year?
>>55044129
Nice.
>>55044102
I didn't say all. Some are, some aren't. If the landlord is okay then there's nothing bad about renting, same goes for renting from the council.
>>55044129
I don't get the joke. My dad earns under 30k, the house is in my parents' names.
>>55044255
I just did some 3rd grade math, anon
>>55044255
>the house is in my parents' names
I don't think you understand how renting works. How old are you?
>>55044267
As an entire family we do earn more than 30k, however that hasn't always been the case (when none of us children were working). Whilst we could all pool together now and perhaps afford a mortgage that didn't apply 30 years ago.
>>55044289
They rent the house, me and my brother pay them rent. Perhaps I used the wrong phrase. What I'm trying to say is it is their names on the tenancy agreement or whatever, not mine.
>>55044401
>entire family barely above the poverty line for 30 years
Jesus Christ
They must all have the same attitude you do, no wonder you've all been poor for so long
>>55044456
You must lead a sheltered life, it's much more common than you think. The well off are always so surprised at how the poorer can survive.
>>55044695
No, the only thing I'm surprised at is how you or no one in your family has any incentive to do better in life and are content with living paycheck to paycheck
It may come as a shock to you, but I actually did grow up with very little. 20 years ago my dad was shoveling shit for a living, last year he bought a new S Class in cash because he felt like it. I'm not about to under acheive after all the work he's put into getting out family on it's feet
>>55038069
that's not how it works...
i7 920 owners are probably smug that their 2009 CPU is still faster than AMD's FX8350.
>>55044745
>no one in your family has any incentive to do better in life and are content with living paycheck to paycheck
We don't struggle, we're happy with what we have and we have things that are far more important than loads of money. Some people go to university and get high skilled jobs earning 100k+ a year, my dad didn't and after starting a family at I think 20 he hasn't had a chance to change that.
Maybe in a decade or two me or my brother will have a better paying job than my dad and have some kids later in life, and those kids will have more money available to them to do better with their lives. Maybe not, who knows.
>>55045410
>Maybe in a decade or two me or my brother will have a better paying job than my dad
Your total lack of incentive and drive leads me to believe you won't
>>55045410
no wonder you're content with an i7 920.
>>55046426
I think you've confused me for someone else. I don't have or ever have had a 920, I have a 4790k.
To all the fags running i7 920s, buy a used X56x0 Xeon from eBay. You'll thank me later.
>>55038052
i7-870 still running like a champ, at least it was.
Computer boots perfectly fine, screens stay black.
Guess nVidia wants me to spend more shekels on new consumer products, oy vey!
>>55038052
i7 960 here
Still runs fine
>>55041640
>2500k beating 980x extreme
lmao. I remember when speccytards were bragging about their 980x and how 2500k people were poorfags
>>55038052
620m (ThinkPad T410). Big step up from the P8600 in my X200.
>>55038052
Kek, even a i5 4440 can beat that old shit
>>55038052
> i7-950 here
Can't overclock it for shit.
It's very far behind any modern CPU, even an i3 beats the shit out of it in single threaded perf.
And we did not even mention power consumption here.
Yes it can open fucking facebook, but face it, a haswell or skylake is worth the upgrade.
>>55047528
for what?
rendering, sure.
but for daily use/gaming/browsing, it's pretty much worse if anything.
and shit, a new cpu is cheaper with a new motherboard than those.
>>55042172
It must be fun when your parents pay your electricity bills.
>>55042733
Wasn't the 920 still a quad core with ht?
So it was probably better, but not significantly better.
>>55043795
This.
>>55047988
Skylake i3 would destroy the i7 thanks go significantly better ipc and single thread performance.
Good enough to still use, but not as good as modern alternatives.
>>55048001
Dude it's a $50 CPU, and you can get an LGA1366 mobo for like another $20
You're going to be hard pressed to find something that can still outperform it at that price
>b-but this 1 benchmark for this i3!
>>55048406
And how much is an i3?
100$?
And you get better perf in pretty much anything?
Less heat? Better OC? UEFI?
I mean come on now.
Yeah you can buy a decade old fucking mainframe sure, but it ain't gonna be any faster than a new computer.
Ps.: The CPU can be cooked, but sure, less chance. But the motherboard? Never would buy one used. Fuck that risk.
>>55048467
Try $130 for a non-shit one, and another $100 for a motherboard that also doesn't suck
And I got a new mobo from a warehouse sale for $20
>>55048479
well yeah but we are talking about generic shit here.
but hey, I won't go on.
if you render, it's a good choice, everyone knows.
but for anything else, just go with the new.
>>55048406
way to move the goal posts..
suddenly it is not about performance, its about value!
please tell me more about how your dumpster diving find is so great
>the performance per dollar is infinity because i got it for free !
>>55048567
If it's about performance may as well go get the latest Intel Extreme edition processors
I had a 930 upgraded to 980x for 300aud right after sandy hit.
Worth
>>55048810
I thought I was on /o/ and for a second I thought you meant the Porsche 930
>>55038069
If you're gonna do it, drop in a Xeon 5650-60-70-75 - they're cheap coming out of eBay, consume less power/less heat, and OC easier than the 920. Literal drop-in replacement, zero software reconfiguration required.
>>55038334
That cant be accurate unless Lynnfield has something going on I dont know of, also turning off speedstep and c states (why the idle draw went up so much) for a pissant 3.8Ghz clock is completely unnecessary
The cooler they tested with cant even handle >200w
>>55048396
>it must be fun assuming this that and the other
No champ, I could give a fuck less about my PC+stereo system drawing 15-20$ every month, I could give a fuck less about dropping that number by $60-$100 a year.
I bet you dont even do the math for how much your fridge, TV, hot water and washer/dryer cost a month. Any of those things (except the TV) use as much if not more electricity as a total PC system.
3770k here.
I want to overclock my CPU, but I don't know how.
>>55048001
32nm, 6 cores, can clock to 4Ghz at 1.2volts (without HT), draws ~140w at max load at that speed (non synthetic loads are more like 80-90), modern games are using more than 4 cores these days or they will soon enough.
If you have x58 but dont yet want to spend 600+ for a new platform you cant go wrong picking up a Westmere Xeon
>AMD penthom 2
>laughing at myself
>>55050123
My i7 870 gets to mid 80s Celsius on a tower cooler with 5 heatpipes and 2 120mm fans in push/pull. It's a monster.
And that's without a case, in the case it got hotter.
>>55038052
got my old 4790k. welcome to flavortown
920 user here. Shits still cost $300 after almost a decade, aren't old electronics supposed to get cheaper? Thanks Jews. I got a CPU I can't sell for $20 but costs me 3 benjs to replace.
>>55038052
You could get a decent heatsink for just $20. Seems easier to do that than bother with finding a new CPU down the road when that one finally croaks.
>>55050880
You can get a hex core Xeon for under $100.
>>55038464
It's funny how all these Intel shills are so incentivized to sell you on their "latest" wares based on bullshit metrics and compiler shenanigans.
My next desktop is definitely going to be AMD
>>55050941
Where and which one? Not really seeing that statement as being true.
I have an i7-920 at 3.94 GHz. It's not "as good as" a modern i7. Almost, but not quite. It IS true that a 4.3 GHz Westmere 6 core Xeon on the same X58 chipset can beat Skylake 4 core locked i7 CPUs in multi-threaded benchmarks, but that's not what we're talking about here.
>>55038052
Is the Hyper Evo still a solid pick for a heatsink? I haven't bothered yet to overclock my i5 3570k, but I might after upgrading to a 1070.
>>55051150
Xeon X5650 and X5660. Old server farms are dumping them due to poor energy efficiency compared to modern chips. You can pick them up for $70-90 and overclock the bejeezus out of them, but YMMV on the overclock. Many people picked up a few, kept the best OCer, then resold, so be careful.
>>55051223
Hyper 212 Evo is fine for any non-monster CPU. Consumer socket? (LGA1155, 1150, 1151) Go for it. Enthusiast socket? (LGA 2011, 2011-3) Get a better cooler.
>>55051246
I just want a small bump on performance for an extra year or two. Last time I OCed was back when I had a Wolfdale Core 2 Duo.
Who new i7 here?
>>55051298
>$700 CPU
Jesus fuck I'd rather buy a new Borla exhaust for my car
>tfw still with Q9550 and GTX 260
is the i7 6700k worth it over the i5 6600k?
do they both oc to the same clocks or can you push one further than the other?
>>55051939
>700$ car exhaust
I'd rather buy a new CPU.
>>55052792
That's the average price for a car exhaust
>>55052838
No it isn't, don't kid yourself. That's the price for a PERFORMANCE exhaust.
>>55052858
Well why would you replace a stock exhaust with another stock exhaust?
>>55052890
You tell me. Are you a professional race car driver?
>>55038517
>I upgraded from an e8400 to a 771 xeon and gave it to my friend.
>Honestly though the e8400 is still plenty for day to day tasks.
I upgraded from e8400 to q9550, it was so cheap that I didn't even bother to look other options. Luckily my motherboard also supports DDR3 so everything works pretty fast and i'm happy with it.
>>55052936
>Are you a professional race car driver?
How is that even an argument?
>>55051939
I don't like cars, but I like computers
>>55050663
My 5650 at 4.4ghz with HT on gets so hot on a 212evo it temp throttles, but doing the math it is also trying to use about 230w with a 160wTDP cooler. I need to drop the 100 bucks for a d14 or similar high end cooler. Ironically 4ghz at 1.225 vcore is just fine, but that last 400mhz takes 100mv and a massive increase to the QPI , the cores themselves only draw 110w at that speed
>tfw dunno if should get 5820k or 6800k
I don't think the 6800k is worth the extra money but I'm not really sure.
>>55051298
Were the extra lanes really worth it?
thinking about getting a RX480, will it do fine with my i7 950 3,06GHz or should I oc it?
help me out senpaitachi
>>55039710
That is with a dedicated GPU, you dumb autist. Do you seriously think an iGPU is getting 67fps in Fallout 4 at 1440p?
>>55038260
Not him, but I legitimately wouldn't care if my CPU was that old.
>>55054064
SAVE THAT LOLI
>>55054137
I think you mean help that loli, she's clearly interested
>>55038052
i7-980 (non extreme) here. Upgraded from 920 in 2011 I think. Works awesome for my DAW. Finding it hard to justify upgrading to anything newer, especially since my audio interface is PCI.
>buy a 3570K in 2012
>no reason to upgrade
>>55054635
>>no reason to upgrade
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
still using a i7 3820, smashed everything I've used it for so far
building a new pc soon though with a 1070 (or amd equivalent if they pull some magic shit out their ass), should I upgrade to an i5 6600 or something?
