http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/
> My little Johnny is a computer genius meme
When I was a kid, I had to use DOS and type in commands to get my games to work. Not to mention that if a kid nowadays even thinks about opening a terminal or command prompt, retarded parents and teachers automatically think OMG HAX0R! SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL!!!
Are future generations fucked /g/?
My first computer was this old thing that used floppy disks and had a picture of a floppy disk on the screen when it was empty, telling you to put in a disk. My disks were mosty games but I also had a word processor disk. The games were mostly platformers and clicky adventure games. My favorit ewas a multiplayer game with grey walls and red and blue guy, shooting eachother. Like 1980s call of duty or something.
Do you know what computer that is? Was it a commodore 64? I think it probably was but I'm not sure.It was a long time ago.
I don't know, man. I was using Ubuntu when I was 8. Decompiling Flash games, modifing variable values and recompiling them. Making retarded, shitty applications in VB6 like web browsers, timers, etc. Had my first imageboard @ 11 and ran an IRC network when I was 12.
>>54909772
>When I was a kid, I had to use DOS and type in commands to get my games to work.
>what was Norton Commander
>>54909772
I think the first time I used a computer was when an older kid showed me how to launch doom and skifree with dos, it was late 90s, when I was 6 or 7 I believe.
computers were a nerd hobby back then.
now pretty much everyone has to use them. they better be easy to use.
>>54909826
it was an amiga
>>54906935
>>54909772
>2013
>>54909850
Ha! That would have been nice to have. But manually putting in the commands helped me learn. I had games like math blaster and Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego.
I loved the command prompt as a kid and took to Linux like a fish to water when I was at votech.
Maybe that's the solution. Make these kids go to votech in high school and middle school.
>>54909844
pretty impressive, what do you do now in life
>>54909930
Hook up with girls and trans women on Tagged, Baboo, Tindr and Grindr. Whine about my life on IRC & various forums. Fap to porn and watch anime.
>>54909953
topjej
>>54909772
>When I was a kid, I had to use DOS and type in commands to get my games to work
Fucking pre-DirectX era man... shit was rough and made even consoles look good.
>>54909930
Considering Ubuntu is new as fuck, he's probably underage. AT BEST he's 19.
>>54909883
Thank you.
>TL;DR? Why not just go watch another five second video of a kitten with its head in a toilet roll, or a 140 character description of a meal your friend just stuffed in their mouth. "nom nom". This blog post is not for you.
Stopped reading there.
>>54909844
>decompile simple flash game I like to see how it works
>it's 80,000 lines of spaghetti code with nonsensical variable names and no comments
First family computer I can remember was a Compaq. I remember playing the Chex video game (came in the cereal box).
>Was poor back in the early 90s.
>Grandpa upgraded to a Windows 95 Gateway (back when gateway was still decent).
>Gave me his old ass Tandy from the 80s.
>Remember having to use DOS to launch anything that wasn't a part of the Tandy's OS.
>Played the shit out of the limited amount of games on floppy that I could find.
Hell, we were using Apple II's back in the early 90s in school as well.
>>54909981
I'm actually 19.
>>54910006
Yeah, it was sort of a pain in the ass. Flash actionscript bytecode is a bitch. There were ways to decompile directly into AS3, but I never bothered with that.
>>54909918
speaking of old games, I'm looking for a game I loved as a kid, but I somehow lost it, even though I still have the games folder from my first computer from '96. It was mostly a point and click adventure, had anthropomorphic cars, a lot of minigames and it ended with some kind of car parade.
>>54910035
*the game
Yeah and you remember how much of a minority you were?
The majority of kids are always the people who clean the sewers, take out the garbage, and shout at you when they become your boss.
>>54909772
The author of the article has a point, but he also sounds like a butt hurt loser. He lacks perspective.
>>54909826
the smart countries are starting to introduce basic programming into schools so it'll be ok
>Are future generations fucked /g/?
yes, that is a long known fact
>>54909872
Top tier image / file name. Got me both times.
>>54910091
Teaching kids how to be code monkeys isn't the same as either teaching them computer architecture or abstracting them from the hardware and having them do math basically. Token gestures for snowflake children. I concede it's better than nothing but should be put into proper perspective.
>>54910031
fucking embryo
>>54910179
>Teaching kids how to be code monkeys isn't the same as either teaching them computer architecture or abstracting them from the hardware and having them do math basically.
daily reminder that being a good programmer nowadays is all about the high level architecture and design, maybe some basic algorithms, and has nothing with computer architecture or math. I'm pretty comfortable with both and I still produce spaghetti code, because I could never get the OO design
>>54909772
>implying 2016 kids don't dream in code
>>54909872
FUCK
>>54909772
>being able to use the toilet is pretty much an essential skill in modern society.
>>54909772
The more I read from this article, the more annoyed I become. While this guy has a point considering the IT knowledge of most teenagers, the way he writes and portrays himself pisses me off. He knows how to install an OS, sometimes uses Ubuntu, knows what a proxy is and teaches networking at a school, what a pro hackz0r. Man, he really knows how to use a computer. Being surrounded by this filthy casual scum must suck so bad when you're literally the reincarnation of Dennis Ritchie.
>>54909772
One time in middle school i opened a cmd window in the computer lab and started playing around with the NET command.
I had recently learned you can send messages over IP with it, so stupidly i typed it net send * testing, and it showed up on every computer.
About 1 minute later I got a message sent to me via NET that said "you are being watched..."
When will the "I decided to pursue my interest in technology, and that makes me better than you" meme end?
I'm done with this forum.
I wish they would teach how to analyse datasets with stuff like numpy or R instead of analysing arguments and rhetoric of an article written by a random journalist during highschool.
>>54909772
It's interesting, because kids nowaday are using computers and other computing devices from age 1, yet the software they run is dumbed down more and more with every passing day.
>>54909772
Amazing, you memorized some commands. PLEASE TELL ME LE HAXOR WAYS O HOLY SMART ONE XD!!1!!
When I was 10 I built a two toned siren with some parts I picked out of a rs component catalogue. It was basically a two mode astable multivibrator.
I also used to make my own 9v battery iPod chargers and take them into school. To charge my ipod on the go.
One thing I regret is never learning to program.
>>54909981
Ubuntu came out in like 2004 and I was 14 and I remember it not installing properly and then using debian instead. Debian also didn't install until I verified it and reburned the disc. Fedora installed but had severe dependency issues that turned me off immediately. All of this was 2004. the first year I started using Linux. I am 26 years old.
>>54910357
>if(x == NULL)
y u do dis
Got suspended for stumbling across a completely open, non secured database of logins of students. They literally told me I was hacking and suspended me. This was in high school.
>>54910555
it's about trying stuff out and being adaptable
>I didn't know how to change x
>I looked around a bit, and there it is
>>54909772
Yea, I know this.
>>54909772
>A kid puts her hand up in my lesson. 'My computer won't switch on,' she says, with the air of desperation that implies she's tried every conceivable way of making the thing work. I reach forward and switch on the monitor, and the screen flickers to life, displaying the Windows login screen. She can't use a computer.
This happens a lot to me. I don't really let it get to me though. I might joke about it with my coworkers from time to time, but I've just accepted the fact that most people will be technologically-oblivious aside from using the most basic applications.
If you're good, then it's an easy way to make it work in your favor. I charge $50 an hour minimum when I do freelance work and they'll pay it if you'e good. In the end, it's still cheaper than taking your computer to Geek Squad only for them to tell you that you need a new one even though the only thing wrong with it is it needs a new battery.
>>54910091
With scratch. For kids it's ok though.
>>54909772
>'What anti-virus are you using?' I ask, only to be told that he didn't like using anti-virus because he'd heard it slowed his computer down. I hand back the laptop and tell him that it's infected. He asks what he needs to do, and I suggest he reinstalls Windows. He looks at me blankly. He can't use a computer.
Hey look, it's /g/
>>54910555
You've missed the point of the article. It's not about his skills, it's about how despite the prevalence of technology, people still can't perform basic problem solving tasks if they are ill-equipped to handle the issue themselves (e.x., entering "restore my iphone contacts" into google) and refuse to learn the basics of computer safety. The "my computer won't turn on" one where the girl has the monitor powered off is more common and prevalent than people think.
>I had to remember 3-5 simple commands to use my computer when I was a kid I was like SOOO SMART!!!! kids these days are so dumb
god I hate this masturbatory shit
honestly, from my years of collecting old shit and performing "forensic investigations", the average home computer user was just as fucking stupid in 1996 or even 1986 as they are in 2016, actually probably even more so
>>54910000
NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGED THESE QUINTS
>>54911358
Those are quads, you fuck
>>54911393
And yet it took me getting it wrong for anyone to notice...
>>54910035
It's called putt putt there are a few I'm not sure which has the parade.
>>54911727
that game was dope I played that shit and pajama sam all the time
My first computer was a hand cranked mechanical adding machine. You kids these days don't know what computing even means.
>>54909872
10/10 picture
>>54911027
>I suggest he reinstalls Windows. He looks at me blankly.
What do you mean "re"-install? This is Gentoo.
>>54909772
>if a kid nowadays even thinks about opening a terminal or command prompt, retarded parents and teachers automatically think OMG HAX0R!
When I was in middle school, teachers would come leer at you if you visited a web site with a black background.
And this was in the late 90s, when half of all web sites had black backgrounds.
It's all Apple's fault.
>>54912351
TRUUUUUU
>>54912497
>truuu xD senpai 100%
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>54912588
I enjoy it
>>54910179
Code monkey level programming is perfect for teaching simple logic design to young children.
Kids are tech retarded because I had two fucking idiots the past year open cmd prompt and told me they were going to "hack my e-mail." I laughed my ass off and asked them if they even knew how to use it.
Thank God I got a job in a comfy private school. Public is hell.
>>54913259
>I had two fucking idiots the past year open cmd prompt and told me they were going to "hack my e-mail." I laughed my ass off and asked them if they even knew how to use it.
KEK
>>54912351
>guy still wears a propeller cap 25 years later
>>54909772
Not fucked because they don't need to know. Computers and software will continue to become easier to use and more user friendly.
When I was 2, my cousin showed me how to find and open MS paint. From their I learned how to navigate on Windows. I was also fixing people's PC's (reinstalling Windows XP or virus scanning) when the lime wire craze became big at age 6-7. Jailbreaking phones at 8 when it was new. Hackintoshed my laptop at age 10. Built PC at 12 and learned visual basic. More things I did, but you all get it.
If I was born probably 6-8 years later, I wouldn't of known 1/8 the things I do now. It's because we were born in the right environment to do so.
>>54914777
>Not fucked because they don't need to know.
They don't need to know how to fix their own computers?
>>54910006
Nigga once you compile something there are no comments.
>>54915254
Not smart on flash, but I think "compile" means something different in the context.
Its not just about having been exposed to computers at a young age, its also that most people just don't give a shit.
I was awful at all things computer up until I was about 16, sure I'd messed with phones briefly or trying to skin windows xp, but it was just blind luck if it worked and I do recall getting destroyed by viruses.
Then one day I decided to build a PC for vidya and school so I bought the shit and put it together, since then it was fun so I actually learned multiple languages and took up tinkering with electronics.
People aren't incapable of doing this stuff, they just don't want to do it.
>>54909844
>admin of an IB and an IRC network
>12yrs old
I'm not objecting your coding skills, but your social ones. How can a fucking kid, which isn't capable yet to distinguish a penis from a vagina, manage a social network that requires knowing a large group of people and being a respectable person?
Unless this IRC network or imageboard consisted in sending "hello" and pokemon pics to your father who was in the room next to you
>>54914495
holy fuck 10/10
>>54909772
I don't care.
Just means less competition for jobs.
>>54909772
You know, women can't code too, it's not the end of the world.
>be in high school
>""""computer class""""
>computers blocked beyond saving but none blocking bat files or scripts
>fuck yes
>make a shitty cmd spam that keeps opening windows and making the cd drive open/close like crazy
>send to friend as txt file and tell him to save as bat and run
>think nothing of it cause it was not a big deal and he probably coudln't figure out how to save properly
>15~ min later, omfg anon what the fuck
>little shit is yelling at the teacher, "anon is breaking and hacking computer"
>everybody is dead serious and gasping, I swear computer normies always do this when their phones or computer breaks like its a big deal
>I'm laughing my ass off at the cd drive going nuts
>teacher is angry as hell but I can't contain the laughs
>get sent straight to school principal
>mfw they actually called both my parents for "breaking AND HACKING the computer"
>mom is computer illiterate and is yelling at me as if I had just robbed a bank
>dad is not too far from illiterate but asks to see the computer
>we all go see the computer
>explorer crashed by now but the cd player keeps doing its thing
>can't hold the laughs
>eveyone yells at me once again
>just restart it you mongs
>works fine after they restarted it
>tell principal to run that bat file to see if its working
>thedriveneverends.bat
>if my dad wasn't holding my shoulder I would be on the ground laughing by now
>we restart it again and works, nothing broken, relax you fucks
>expelled for 1 week and forced to use computer with teacher next to me
>>54916207
>thedriveneverends.bat
lel
Back in New Zealand in 1997 my intermediate school used these 'acorn' computers. At one stage for a school project some of us were allowed to use a digital camera which stored photos on 3.5" floppy disks.
I decided to take as many photos as I could of a girl I liked, and I think you could only store a handful of photos per disk, so I came in one day with literally a pile of about 40 disks, but my homeroom teacher caught me and confiscated them, some of them hadn't been formatted so probably had my dad's work files and a few DOS games on them.
She refused to hand them back without talking to my parents first about my attempt to "hack the computer system" of the school and I was really upset, but on the last day of school, months later, after I'd mostly forgotten about them, she told me she had a "little present" to give me, and she handed me this giant pile of flopp disks tied up in a rubber band.
>>54916303
Forgot to add that I only managed to get a single disk of photos of this girl I liked, and it was among the disks confiscated. I have it to this day, but can never see the photos because I don't have an acorn computer to access the files. Or the disk has been corrupted.
>>54916207
No generation will ever experience the magic of being a teenager in the '90s
>>54912351
>"God is not real"
I agree with most of that picture, but this is too much. The 90's internet was full of lively discussion on philosophical and religious issues, including 'edgy atheism'. Some of my best memories are of IRC chatrooms on Dalnet in the 90's with funny, intelligent 'edgy atheists', and there were certainly less funny, more 'autistic' doctrinaire ones too. The communication of ideas was a central draw.
Meh, I bet most computer experts can't fix their car despite using it daily
>>54909772
at 15 i got my first computer, an pentium mmx 233 mhz, in 2005. the previous owner was a gay dude and system32\drivers had a 'pics' folder full of gay dudes in leather doing things to each other.
i learned programming with excel's macro editor and used that until a guy from my aunts work got me a pirated copy of vb6. after that i learned pascal and php then i joined a 4 year "highschool with advanced IT" program thing then went to college which i dropped out eventually.
>>54912351
lol apple has been making "computers for the rest of us" since 1977
>>54911147
I think Macs and iPhones are making people stupid. They practically are spoon-feeding them and they're unable to think.
>>54914777
>visual basic
Stopped reading there.
>>54914495
>>54909844
>ubuntu in a usable state
>8
underage b&
How many of you can fix a fucking lawnmower or a tractor without looking it up?
Same shit.
>>54918373
who uses a lawnmower or tractor to do their taxes, store their information (private and otherwise), manage their purchases, purchase things, edit photos, play games, read news, and other now-daily activities?
>>54918679
Who uses a computer to cut their grass, weed their garden, till their plots, and make sure that there little garden grows so they can eat?
You guys are literally going "HURF DURF KIDS THESE DAYS" when the generation before us can do the exact same shit and you don't see the hypocrisy of it.
>>54918704
tilling a garden isn't seen as something that the majority of a population does every day. Tractors are tools of labor while computers are tools of data manipulation and while tractors are useful they aren't as crucial in our day to day operation as computers are.
>>54916207
There are "computer teachers" so retarded they scream "1337 H4X0R" if you right click -> view source on a website
>>54918373
I can fix a lawnmower without looking it up so long as it isn't a problem inside the engine block itself.
You try replacing a piston without spare parts dude
>>54911727
THANK YOU
Something something Ahmed's clock
>whining about normies being computer retards
>instead of taking advantage of it
Faggots
>>54918373
I can, its rather easy.
Recently fixed a weedwacker. Carb got clogged from shitty gas. Never even looked at a 2 stroke before then.
>>54909872
>1 KB
10/10 fucking dying
>>54910000
thank you quads, that's the same place i stopped reading. why even bother writing a tl:dr if you're just going to condescendingly tell the reader you're not going to write one at all
>>54918373
I can fix a flamethrower if you ask me
>>54915737
That or maybe he was managing a dark secret pedophile irc that he created to share cheese pizza with people he met over aim
>>54918373
>without looking it up
Why should I waste time on learning things I will likely never need? I could just google 'how to fix a lawnmower' and learn it in 5 minutes if I needed to
>>54909872
You cunt.
>>54911096
people don't understand shit about cars either, they just do regular check-ups and call a mechanic if something is broken.
the human brain is limited, it's better if people concentrate on the things that aggregate value to others and put food on their own table. specialization is what makes our society so wealthy.
