This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
http://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>54850437
Second for another vintage Omega. It has been such a pleasure day that I'm going to share another wristshot.
>My afternoon watch for today, one of my Pie Pan's.
3rd for meme shock on the way, thinking of inverting the polarizer
>>54880647
Ugh, the autistic OP is back.
How the fuck do you manage to make a worse thread than oceANUS shill?
>>54880917
It's the correct OP.
How accurate are spring drive movements in comparison to quartz and mechanical movements?
>>54881736
>How accurate are quartz movements in comparison to quartz movements?
>>54881736
A quartz crystal regulates the electromagnetic brake on the glide wheel. So it's as accurate as a quartz watch, duh.
>>54881807
>>54881760
There's presumably still the question of which is a more accurate way of transmitting the timekeeping signal from the quartz crystal to the hands of the watch - a stepper motor or a magnetic brake?
>>54880753
Explaine this meme
>>54882192
>>54882545
>>54881760
Spring drive is as accurate as many sundry quartz watches. But if you're looking at quartz watches of near the same price as spring drive, you can get much more accurate quartz.
>want a blue scuba dude with pepsi
>it's basically teal now and will clash against a pepsi bezel
>want a black scuba with a black/blue pepsi bezel from srp787
>doesn't fit a vostok bezel, impossible to get ahold of
how about a non-insert bezel? does this look fuck-ugly
>>54883190
another pic
why is it so hard to get a 787 bezel, i thought the watch was released already
>Tfw when you'll never be able to wear a 60mm+ death watch as well as Sigma does
Hold me
Instead of buying a $6000 watch, buy a $100 watch and put $5900 in the S&p500
>>54883246
Why not put 6k in the s&p and buy a 6k watch?
>>54883190
>>54883204
looking for a second (or more) opinion on this style of bezel if it wasn't clear, i forgot the question mark
Redpill me on:
Daniel Wellington
MVMNT
Nomos
Rodina
>>54883505
I really like those plain steel bezels. Sadly I bought a sandblasted 090 so I think one of them would look stupid on my watch.
>>54883584
I see what you did there
>>54883584
Shit
Shit
Good but a lot of people on here like to hate on them.
Pretty good for a chink watch.
>>54883204
>why is it so hard to get parts for a brand new watch instead of massively popular ones that have been out for decades
>>54880734
That's gorgeous lawyer
>>54880734
normie/10 REEEEEEER
>>54880734
Out of curiousity, is that dial a repaint? I find the Chronometre spelling and the huge modern-style SWISS MADE text a little suspicious and the font looks a little strange. Your painted minute markers look pretty sloppy just like mine do, too. There's so many different models with slightly different text that I never know what's original.
At least your watch has a 3 o'clock index, though.
my watch folder is such a horrid mess with thousands of pics that i can't find this picture
it's some african general or terrorist or something with a casio a158w, anyone know who that was or have the picture? it used to be posted on /wt/ all the time
>>54883584
I want a mvmt
At least they don't pretend to be something they are not. Looking at YOU danish design and skagen
>>54884621
buy them from the factory for 5$ if you do buy one.
no sense in throwing away a hundred dollereedoos
>>54884658
Link me i want a chronograph
>>54884658
Disregard went and found it
>>54884658
>buy them from the factory
How?
>>54883190
It doesn't clash that hard with it.
>>54884747
Aliexpress.
Though they no longer list them specifically under the MVMT name because of lawsuits. Same for DW.
>>54884674
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32666664034.html
>>54884769
Is this an actual chronograph? Or are the subdials just drawn/whatever other shit the chinks do
>>54884766
Are you implying that the DW's on Aliexpress aren't actually fakes?
>>54884766
i know but I can tell it'll trigger my autism. I don't like the teal much anyway to begin with, I really wanted one with the deep royal blue but I'd rather go for a new one than used.
>Your watche's face when
>>54884799
>>54884766
I was under the impression that the mvmt's on aliex press were literally the same watches as on mvmt's website.
I assumed that genuine DWs are overpriced quartz and you might as well buy a fake
>>54884766
The ones on aliexpress are out of stock for chronograph ones :(
>>54884766
>>54884769
Is it really a MVMT watch?
>>54884795
you can tell from the picture that those are real hands in the subdial. If they are using misleading images I guess I am wrong because I believe real mvmt's have functional chronos
>>54884799
I haven't been there in a while, but yeah most if not all are the lower quality fakes.
For a while they had "gen"/slightly better ones for like 8~10$
>>54884808
So just buy the deep blue dial speratly. Or get the either one of the newer dials like the 656 or 812.
>>54884825
Those aren't chronos
These are; 30 bucks though
>http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Brand-CHRONO-Watches-Men-High-Quality-Leather-Calendar-Quartz-Chronograph-Clock-Male-Sport-Wristwatch/32656281279.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10037_10017_10021_507_10022_10032_10020_401_10018_10019_101,searchweb201603_9&btsid=f96c0055-e7b7-440c-b390-e1824423a46c&smToken=15d956a92cbb441485594347840e9a35&smSign=4TvtxU9OPKfXu0cVXntTkg%3D%3D
Will this replace the chink wellington meme?
I wonder if that sub seconds actually works..
>http://www.aliexpress.com/item/komono-Quartz-Watch-Men-Top-Brand-Stainless-Steel-Watches-Relojes-Hombre-2016-Horloge-Orologio-Uomo-Montre/32630991966.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10037_10017_10021_507_10022_10032_10020_401_10018_10019_101,searchweb201603_9&btsid=190e332d-363f-4da7-894a-a99b94910cf9
>>54885327
I think the DW are popular because real DWs are cheap quartz anyway. Nomos with a quartz movement seems off
>>54885327
I like how they tried to edit out where it said sample or something on the photos.
>>54884769
Thanks anon! Just bought one and saved myself 130usd
>>54885226
Ah son of a bitch i brought the 8 dollar one.
Might buy the $30 and compare them
>>54885604
please do. I was under the impression this whole time that they were actually the same watch from the same factory as mvmt.
even if it's not, the 3 hand will likely be about equal quality, it will be a shame if the chrono doesn't work on the 8$ one I'll be sorry to have linked it
>>54885625
Don't feel bad i would have spent $100 more if you hadn't linked me
Right bought both the alishit mvmt watches
Will report back my findings.
Worst case i sell one on ebay to pay for both
>>54884900
i really like the 656 actually but isn't it only for the 120?
if im going for a 710 won't it be too small? or are only the case sizes different and all amphibia dials the same? if all the dials are the same and only the case sizes are different then i will almost definitely do that.
the thing im afraid of with the regular non-656 deep blue is buying it on ebay or seperately and it getting here and being teal due to an outdated picture.
>>54885883
Mind buying that "Nomos" too?
I'd really like to know if the sub seconds actually works or not.
>>54886240
Maybe next week. Keeping some of my watch spending money for vintage on ebay
>>54880647
>Buy Raketa Kopernik for 37€ shipped
>Quite pleased with it because it's almost NOS for a good price
>Buy black leather strap so it looks as nice as the one on my Soviet watches' book
>Wind it up and it doesn't work after 1 min
>After that keeps working all day long and keeps excellent time
>the next morning it's running 5s faster and decide to hold the crown to "ghetto hack" it so it shows the exact time again
>hear a strange noise
>seems to be the hairspring spinning around
>crown is now loose
>hairspring too, and I can hear it when I shake it
>kaputt
RAKETA, NEVER AGAIN.
>>54886532
>>decide to hold the crown to "ghetto hack" it so it shows the exact time again
Did you destroyed your watch in just one day??
>>54886569
>Did you destroyed your watch in just one day??
Basically yes.
But I've own 2 Raketas before and I could do that. It's something that works with almost every mechanical and I've always read that it's something safe to do.
>>54883231
It depends on how the straps contour around your wrist.
I wear a big G--shock that fits well and while it looks big it doesnt look bad and blocky
>>54886601
>It's something that works with almost every mechanical and I've always read that it's something safe to do.
I think obvious reality begs to differ.
Well, at least is not an expensive watch, but don't do that again.
>>54886532
>ghetto hack it
serves you right tbqh
>>54886601
Oh anon you silly tool.
That's about 4 down on my list of next buy so i shall learn from this
>>54886532
>Buy citizen watch from eBay seller in my area
>he has personal information and sells things regularly on his eBay page
>pay $80 for said citizens
>listed as working perfectly and recently serviced
>it arrives is vape box (first bad sign)
>surname is Gaudiosi (second bad sign, fucking wogs)
>it runs -12 hours a day
>fucking 12 hours a day the cunt looses
>email him
>"just get it serviced m8"
>dumb cunt put his home address as the return address
I hope the $80 was worth getting mailed anthrax cunt
>>54886532
>>54886601
>be a total retard and break the watch
>RAKETA, NEVER AGAIN
Sometimes it seems like divine punishment does exist.
>>54886817
>it runs -12 hours a day
>fucking 12 hours a day the cunt looses
How can a watch loose 12 hours per day??
That's fucking unreal. LOL
>>54886817
>I hope the $80 was worth getting mailed anthrax cunt
im dying over here
>>54887226
Put your name back on, that wasn't funny in the least.
Fuck, I've even more money and I still don't know which watch to buy after 2 months. It's my first mechanical watch and I can't help but be anal about it.
This is ridiculous.
I want one with a bracelet and I'd like a 6R15 powered one but I don't like the models, except for the SARX027, which doesn't have a bracelet and costs a little bit too much, and the SARB029, which doesn't have a bracelet as well and looks like shit with one.
I keep trying to like the SARB035 but I just can't and I know I won't be satisfied.
What do? I'm at a loss.
>>54886081
It's a new dial so it only appears in the newer 120 case, but it will fit in any other case.
>>54886532
>>54886817
Shlomo is disappointed in you.
>>54886601
There is a reason i don't buy Raketa's anymore.
>>54886817
I wish teenagers didn't vape then it wouldn't have the rep it has
Take it up with paypal, goods not as described you have a legal backup
>>54887481
Keep searching and keep saving money. You might eventually be able to move up into high price brackets and find something you love.
>>54887484
yay
i assume it's not that hard to do, ill have to buy some tools though
>>54887910
Piss easy.
Caseback wrench to open and close, tweezers to press on the stem release, remove the stem, reseat movement in the new case (lift it with thicker tweezers), stick in the correct stem and volia. And unless you've given the movement 2 weeks to run don't regulate it yet.
Only one thing to note, i think the 120 case has the longer stem, while the 710case has the shorter stem. If you buy a 710 case with a stem it should be fine.
>>54888018
i'm gonna buy a 710 with a 656 dial on the side, i think you're explaining the steps for buying a 120 and a 710 case on the side.
i got the basic idea of how from here (http://forums.watchuseek.com/f54/anatomy-vostok-68330.html)
from what i can tell i need a watch case holder, case screwback wrench, movement holder, some tweezers and screwdrivers and a watch hand remover.
http://www.amazon.com/Vastar-Adjustable-Opener-Remover-Watchmaker/dp/B01DPEZ5RA, will this case holder also work as a movement holder? they look pretty similiar except a few details, and i'm trying to be as hebrew as possible with this.
>>54888088
forgot pic
as some people are discusing amphibia dials ill use this opportunity to ask.
What is the cleanest amphibia dial without scuba dude, komandirskie works too i guess?
Is €100 a fair price to fix and service a broken 1970's quartz watch?
>>54888107
There are $20 kits on ebay with all the tools and spare pins (chink quality granted but still better looking than your picture)
Just search : watch tools
>>54888129
>without scuba dude
All case styles have versions like that.
>>54888088
Yup.
Read http://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/request-vostok-modding-tutorial-long-poorly-written-lots-not-so-high-quality-pics-3036938.html instead.
I wouldn't call that an ideal movement holder, but it could work. My movement holder also doubles as such. (It's a shitty cheap one) Important bit is to have a clean as possible room, since my current work room is filled with moving boxes and dust i can't do any mods and or regulation.
>>54888129
662 and 916 dials are rather clean looking.
Though it's easier just to type Vostok Amphibia in ebay and start browsing.
>>54888160
Depends how any why.
>>54888195
like one of these? they don't come with a watch case holder/movement holder but are those really necessary?
it actually might be cheaper to just buy a 120 with a 25$ 710 case and do it the way you first explained it.
>>54888160
How do these kind of people not realise that the look like fuckfaces.
Depends on the movement anon.
If it's complicated than 100povodollars is OK as long as that includes the complete overhaul of the movement.
More expensive watch = more $$$
If it's a cheap manual wind out auto then it should be more like $50 - $100
Most people don't realise that its a 1 to 2 hour job if you take your time and do it properly.
Most car dealers charge $50 per hour for work so watch makers should seem like value by comparison
>>54888218
which one is the cleanest?
>>54888234
You're responding to a different guy.
But yeah, it's the cheaper way and much easier to boot.
>>54888234
There are ones with movement holders anon. ..seek and you shall find
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/291539496097
>>54888256
Just go on Meranom and look for yourself, it shows basically all the currently in production models.
After few days of browsing different Amphibians and changing my mind every few minutes I decided to go with 090662M.
I hope I will like it, I've just started getting into this stuff.
>>54888264
fucking excellent.
i'm going to put in the order this weekend, very excited. ty to everyone who helped.
>>54888311
I suggest going with the polished version instead of the sandblasted.
>>54888311
>Polished case
muh nigga.
>>54888330
They have a brushed version, not a bead blasted version.
>>54887776
But I want a watch now. I need one.
>>54888330
>>54888343
Please don't tell me M in 090662M stands for 'Matte'
>>54888418
Yes. Yes it does.
Then again the 090662 usually only comes with the matte case to start with.
>>54888393
buy second hand on eBay or on the WUS sales corner, you will have more choices for your budget.
uk bros might be interested
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Seiko-5-SEIKO-MILITARY-Nylon-SNK809K2-Watch-/122004166794
was going to buy one myself, but decided i really cant afford
>>54888449
Welp. few days of reading wasn't enough then, not to mention it looked polished on pictures.
I really like the dial and I'm far from modding the watch right now to cancel my order and get polished case. At least it will hide defects better ;_;
>>54888343
>They have a brushed version, not a bead blasted version.
Buddy I own an 090914M and there is no direction to the finish, it's sandblasted even says so on the description on Meranom.
>>54888523
The matte case isn't that bad.
But if you want the polished version:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUSSIAN-VOSTOK-AUTO-AMPHIBIAN-AMPHIBIA-1967-DESIGN-DIVER-WATCH-90662-NEW-/141737498167?hash=item2100369637:g:heUAAOSwHnFVwhLb
>>54888537
Aha, now i see it. They are a bit less common than the polished ones.
I've just always thought it was brushed like the older tonneau.
>>54888235
It's a 1970's quartz from a respected German brand. The watch is completely dead.
>>54885563
I bought a fake MVMT and it doesn't look as accurate as that. The date wheel is off and too far in.
>>54886240
It does but it's obviously quartz, it looks like the same case as the fake DWs.
I'm on my phone & don't have a picture right now.
>>54880647
What watch is Paul wearing? It looks like a ugly Casio but I can't tell.
https://youtu.be/r07lbmGJFVs
>>54888502
I'm already looking at the sales corner of some forums of my country.
What are other used watches with good movements and a classic style in the €300-500 price range? All 6R25 and ETA 2812-2, I guess, but what about the case and the dial? Anything worth noting?
>>54888938
Hamilton Jazzmaster should be a decent fit.
>>54888988
Mmh. I didn't think about Hamilton. Looks a little too glamorous for my taste, though. I like the cleanness of the Seiko designs but they always have too much or too less.
>>54888859
Looks more Suunto than Casio to me.
Anything else I should be looking out for on Aliexpress?
>>54889060
Well. Jazzmaster is pretty subtle. (Some models)
I'm saving up for a SDGM003 if don't manage blow the cash on something else.
>>54889096
some taste
>>54889096
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/apollo-Xlll-SNOPPY-Man-speeed-master-Watches-Ceramic-bezel-Men-s-quartz-Chronograph-watch-Moon-311/32668434176.html
>tacky fake chink shit
perfect for you
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>>54888604
If it's a good watch paying $100 to make it last another 45 years is a good investment.
It's either fixable or fucked. Don't think they will charge you $100 if it's fucked
>>54888625
Did you mean mine was more accurate or yours is more accurate?
>>54889060
Get yourself a sarb033 and quit your whining
>>54889599
If I got one I'd be whining even more.
I just don't like the external seconds indices. It's ridiculously superfluous and aesthetically unpleasant.
>>54889599
I second this, it's also aesthetically superior SDGM003, which is just a bit better finished and double the price.
I want a watch with Roman numerals that just works and isn't cheaply made what should I get?
>>54884570
This is what makes me scared to buy vintage Swiss watches. Compared to Seiko, where you can literally just look your shit up in the catalogue and figure out what's been tampered with, the Swiss scene has so many unknowable redials and frankens that it's scary.
>>54886532
>Ghetto hacking anything other than a Vostok 2414
You were just asking for trouble
>>54886817
>>54887204
I bought into the Bagelmeme last year. Mine was running 2 hours slow and the seller wanted me to pay return shipping to China. I just challenged the charge on my credit card, and Stalin should just send a dispute to eBay. I've gotten a 100 per cent refund for lesser shit.
12 hours has to be the new record here.
>>54889060
Get a SARX015
>>54890070
Also under $300 if possible
>>54890072
>Swiss scene has so many unknowable redials
Which are usually easy to spot, frankens on the other hand are a bit less easy since they are surprisingly uncommon.
The issue with the Swiss scene that if you sway away from well known manufacturers, part interchangeability, general information and rarity vastly increases. My Dugena is the only one of it's kinda that i have seen, and i doubt i'd find another one(Swiss ebuche movement though). But for 50$ i ain't complaining.
Also the more i look at it the more am i swayed away from shelling 500$ on a SDGM and getting a SARX instead.
>>54890079
Orient Bambino V2
>>54890079
Seconding an orient.
Check out the:
Symphony
Curator
Bambino
>>54888330
>>54888418
>>54888449
>>54888523
>>54888537
>>54888583
whats wrong with the matte case? why does everyone hate it?
i would think it would be better, less of a fingerprint magnet and less prone to show scratches.
What does /wt/ think of Hadley-Roma straps? Thinking of just getting their basic MS881 18mm calf leather model for my SNK809.
>>54890493
bretty gud.
Overall good bang for your buck.
>>54890188
I personally think the SARX is a better value than the SDGM, but fat Torontonian would argue otherwise. The text on the SDGM is far too low-rent for its pricepoint, and the finishing is not appreciably better than the SARX. Which would be more excusable if they had a 28.8k movement in it, but Seiko has to play the Fuji-sama Jew and still give us a 7S26-derived 6R15 instead of a 4S (aka 21st century 52xx) movement. Great dial though.
Speaking of the 52xx and its descendents, I can't wait for my $100 LM Special to arrive. Gonna need to replace that crystal, though.
>>54883231
Is that the 999 watch? I need to play the 2nd game. I am pretty sure aksys released a limited edition version of the first game's watch.
Damn the display on this watch looks amazing but I don't know if I can deal with the purple and orange.
>>54890694
It's more of the fact that the SDGM looks a bit too bland for me. The AUTOMATIC doesn't bother me that much.
I already own the barrel cased 52XX you see posted every thread and i'm thinking of what bracelet to slap on it.
Considering either the same bracelet as pic related or going for thinner mesh (1.7 or 2mm, not sure yet). I've bought a 3mm thick one and it was really
>>54890782
>>54890800
Also said LM that is posted every thread >>54890188
I'm the guy who is preparing to purchase a Speedmaster.
I cannot decide between the standard speedmaster and the moonphase version.
Which one should I get ?
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch/professional-42-mm/31130423001005/
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch/professional-42-mm/38765031/
The classic one has so much history, but the moonphase variant is so beautiful.
Both use pretty much the same calibre from what I understand.
>Seiko 7015 Time Sonar
>Current price: 5 yen
>Of operating status, it cannot be confirmed, thank you in repair assumption. Of appearance, is sake, old wine, still able to cherish
Worth a gamble?
>>54891264
Y! i guess.
Yup, damn thing worth a pretty penny just in parts, and the chronograph mechanism is sturdy and well built. Base movement is the same as the 700X series so the parts are easy to find.
>>54890800
How many times am I going to have to tell you to get a mesh bracelet before you listen?
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>>54890694
>the finishing is not appreciably better than the SARX.
It is, but it's still not worth the price difference unless you fall in love with the guilloche dial.
>LM Special
Nice one, might be my favorite blue 52xx dial I've seen so far.
>>54891221
If you go for the moonphase one, make sure you get a steel bracelet. That leather strap doesn't do it justice.
I'm biased towards the MAN ON THE MOOOOON because history, and the moonphase one doesn't look "right" to me as a result.
>>54891383
Also going by the photos, the dial on the MAN ON THE MOOOOON looks more 3D than the one on the moonphase one, more appealing to me.
>>54891383
That history is alluring as hell, I admit.
I'm trying to get a real gold Databank from the 80s like this one /g/. what say you about it?
Like this?
Just bought a James Bond NATO strap. What's the best looking <40mm Aliexpress watch I can wear it with?
>>54891345
yeye
I did buy one but being the imbecile i am i bought a 3mm thick one.
Now all that's left is to get either the 2mm or 1.7mm
Perpetual moon phase today
>>54891597
2big4u mr monkey
WHY DO MECHANICAL FAGGOTS LIE SO MUCH ON THE INTERNET???
THEY KEEP REPEATING THE LIE THAT A MECHANICAL WILL LAST LONGER THAN A QUARTZ WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL!!!!!!
THEY KEEP REPEATING THE LIE THAT QUARTZ WATCHES CAN'T BE REPAIRED WHICH IS THE BIGGEST LIE IN THE HISTORY OF WATCH MAKING
STILL YOU FAGGOTS KEEP SUPPORTING THIS LYING FAGGOT INDUSTRY!!!!!
YOU'RE ALL BEING TAKEN FOR A FUCKING RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>54880647
IF DESKTOP THREADS WERE MOVED TO >>>/w/ THEN THIS SHIT THREAD BELONGS TO >>>/fa/
FUCK YOU
>>54891965
Nah, but I am hairy as fuck
>>54889515
Yours looks more accurate.
>>54891338
>Y! i guess
Of course. The only other place where I have found such hilariously terrible English was on a pirated Haruhi Suzumiya DVD from Pacific Mall where the subtitles had been translated first into Mandarin and then into English. Price is up to ¥14 now, fucking thing has more than doubled. How can I continue to afford this hobby.
>>54891381
Thanks. I figured I wouldn't have a lot of competition from you since it has kind of a Vanac look to it (still can't tell if it's a true sunburst, Reed's pictures are outrageously shitty) but as it turns out I didn't really have any competition from anyone. Put in my final bid like 30s before the auction end and nobody attempted to outbid me. It's hilarious how unappreciated these things are, while everyone is crawling over one another to get far inferior 21,600 calibers.
I can't find a replacement faceted crystal, so it looks like I will have to go for domed glass. Which is alright, I like domes as much as the next guy, but faceted crystals are really fucking excellent.
>>54892010
I won't take this seriously, but for the record most quartz movements are total shit and basically unrepairable. Even jeweled quartz movements (which can last upwards of 40 years as mine has) will eventually suffer from some sort of electronic failure, usually a capacitor in the circuitry. Unless you can find a compatible capacitor and are really, really good with soldering, they're toast once the circuitry starts to go.
>>54892373
>Reed's pictures are outrageously shitty
His pictures aren't too bad, he just knows a couple of Jewish photography tricks to hide some obvious faults with his watches.
Waiting till i finish basic training and finishing moving before i test my luck on Y! Japan though. I want to try getting my hands on another couple LM specials or maybe a KS.
And about quartz movements, if the coil is gone it's usually a lost cause.
I decided on the classic speedmaster
>>54892010
>THEY KEEP REPEATING THE LIE THAT A MECHANICAL WILL LAST LONGER THAN A QUARTZ WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL!!!!!!
I have a Waltham pocket watch that dates back to 1899 that still works and keeps decent time. https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/9006307 I wonder if any quartz watches will be able to last that long?
>>54890985
Pretty much.
>>54892457
So far, it looks to me that Yahoo auctions is really not much better than eBay for the Lord Matic Specials. It's actually probably cheaper to get from eBay once you factor in customs and the Buyee fees.
Where Y! seems to excel is with the rarer stuff. Like the KS Specials, GS chronometers, or even muh 7018. Unfortunately you have to do a lot of swimming befoee finding the gold nuggets at the bottom of the cesspool.
As for quartz coils... Wouldn't there be a way to make your own?
>>54892010
We do not even fully know the real world lifespan of a quality quartz watch because they haven't existed that long. But we do have mechanicals working from much longer than quartz has existed.
But I wouldn't count on budget quartz lasting on the same timescale as mechanicals. But a nice Grand Seiko or something? Could go quite a long time.
>>54892705
>Wouldn't there be a way to make your own
Part of the issue, generally you can't quite make them in a DIY or simillar but manufacturers might be able to.
So, if the coil is gone the coil is gone, and coils are usually rather specific to the model but are somewhat exchangeable between similar models.
Curios, did you see any 7A28 quartz chrono's in there?
70's Seastar today
I have a £200 gift voucher for john lewis and was thinking of getting a watch.
http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/men/all-mens-accessories/mens-watches/_/N-e9x?defaultSortOption
Which one should I get?
>>54892961
I had seen a few 7A28s floating around, but surprisingly they were not cheap. More than the 7018s in some cases. You could easily pick up two Lord Matics for the price of a single 7A28.
>>54893116
This looks pretty fucking gnarly, love the barrel case. The 1970s were truly the high point of watch design. What's the movement? Also dat day wheel.
>>54893175
>http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/men/all-mens-accessories/mens-watches/_/N-e9x?defaultSortOption
Depends how much beyond the £200 you want to put towards a watch.
>>54893175
A quartz Tissot would be a safe bet, or a Mondaine if you like the style.
>>54891381
>>54892373
>>54892457
>>54890694
What kind of models have the 52xx movements? I mean, If I just search by that will I find all the auctions or will I miss something? They all have Hi-beat movements, right?
I'd like to get an LM, seeing how you can get one for just €100, but the Grand Seiko ones look amazing. If only there was a design like that with a 6R15.
>>54890072
>Get a SARX015
Eh, I like it but as my first watch I'd prefer a more traditional case and bracelet design.
Also I have a 16 cm bitch wrist.
>>54893175
>80% of the watches are either Boss or Armani
What the fuck are Jewellers becoming.
why isn't this on >>>/fa/?
>>54893479
They're becoming jewelers.
>>54893256
Movement is Tissot 2571 (ETA 2670) 17 Jewel.
The design of this Seastar was my favorite that I had seen. Lucky enough to pick it up NOS with the tags still attached.
>>54893500
Why aren't desktop and homescreen threads on /a/ or /soc/?
Because you can't stop eating cocks.
>>54893479
My mother in law spent £300 on some Boss watch for her son, I almost vomited. The "crocodile" strap is disgusting too.
>>54893503
I'll consider myself lucky that the locally owned Jeweller here only sells a limited array of fashion shit.
>>54893116
>SEX
>>54893500
Because we appreciate the fine engineering of the mechanical aspect of the watch first and only then the aesthetical one.
Stop asking questions with obvious answers.
>>54893527
Could have been worse, could have been that £500 fossil Datejust "homage" that only comes in 2-tone.
>>54893527
Did you redpill her?
>>54893574
At least Fossil is a watch company, even in the loosest sense of the term.
>>54893589
It would go over her head. She thought more money = more good watch. It looks semi decent and she got it with good intentions, so there's that at least.
Pic related is one almost the same, just his one had a shitty black fake crocodile strap.
>>54893655
>At least Fossil is a watch company
In the same way that FoxConn is a Workers Rights Activist convention.
>>54890694
Where did you buy it? eBay? I wanna buy one as well. Or is Yahoo my best bet?
I would like to know the average IQ of Casio's customers.
Any idea what model is this?
My father gave it to me on my 18th birthday, its from the 60's.
>>54893479
Exactly as it says in the name... JEWellers
>>54893512
Holy shit, where the hell did you get a NOS Tissot from? Lucky find at a local warehouse foreclosure?
My watchmaker was telling me about someone who found a NOS Speedmaster at an estate sale. It was from the early 1980s, apparently it was given to some guy's dad as a retirement gift but then he died literally a month later. The guy ended up dying about 30 years after his dad, with the watch just sitting in its original box in a drawer somewhere. The stupid cunt grandkids had no idea what the watch was and just sold it off for close to nothing (about $700). I wish I could get in on these things...
I want the Tudor blackbay
It hurts to live
>Omega 20mm alligator leather strap with Omega clasp is almost $500
fuck off omega
>>54893913
>$700 NOS Speedy
Tissot belonged to an old guy that lived next to my grandma. Bought it from him at a yard sale.
It's 5.30am
I'm currently shitposting on a Northern Irish titanic appreciation board
In the likely circumstance that my life spirals further out of control and I take my own life I leave my watches to the following
Sarb035- lawyerfag
Lm special- Canadian fag
King Quartz- Other Canadian fag
Random raketa Slav watch guy who hates me and my name fagging
Orient Ray- if that my little pony cum jar guy is still around it is his
-12 hour citizen- I want It promptly destroyed, I wouldn't even wish such a curse on nine ball
>>54893396
You may miss something, but I doubt it. Models with the 52 caliber include the Lord Matic, King Seiko, and... That's it, I think. It was not used in the GS because the 52xx was a Daini movement but the GS was a Suwa product. Whatever Suwa was putting in the GS was probably better anyways, if not for the higher beatrate than for the generally better finishing and accuracy (the 52 caliber is a bit of an industrial movement, it's not really designed to look pretty). Technically the 52xx survives to the present day (or it was resurrected, whichevwr you prefer) and it's used in other high end Seiko products.
>>54893840
>The Lord Matic meme is really starting
I got mine from eBay. Everyone else here went to Yahoo Auctions I believe.
>>54894103
The 52xx was probably the best overall automatic movement produced by either Seiko division before the quartz revolution.
I don't think a good argument could be made for any of the Suwa auto calibers even being on the same level as the 52xx, much less better.
>>54894153
What makes it such a good movement?
What happened?
>>54892373
>quartz movements are total shit and basically unrepairable
ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT LIES!!!!!!!!
YOUTUBE IS FULL OF PEOPLE REPAIRING QUARTZ WATCHES FROM COMPONENT LEVEL!!!!!
https://youtu.be/YxcYgQejqnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hngZxIrPVko
What even is microengineering?
When you barely engineer?
>>54894153
>The 28800 bph 52 caliber is better than the 36000 bph 61GS caliber in general
>The chronometer 5246 is specifically better than the VFA 618x which caused the legendary Swiss observatory butthurt
Not a chance, buddy.
Is the 52 caliber better than just about every other automatic movement ever made? Yes. Did Daini generally fuck up way less than Suwa? Yes. Were Daini's movements good enough to be used by present-day Seiko, while just about everything ever produced by Suwa has gone extinct? Yes.
But there is just no comparison between the 52 caliber and the 61.
https://www.woodwatches.com/shop
Jord watches - designed and made with normies and hipsters in mind
>$295
The Jew is strong with this one.
>>54894418
Engineers with especially small penises I think. I don't know.
>>54894422
*every other Suwa automatic
>>54894354
7S26 happened.
>>54894184
It has: Bi-directional automatic plus manual winding, quick-set for both day and date, instantaneous day and date change at midnight on the 5206 and 5246, and very good inherent reliability plus accuracy.
Pretty much any 52xx in regularly serviced condition should run under +-2s/d and would have a good shot of passing COSC certification.
For the time it was made (1971-1975) it was a top of the line volume produced movement directly comparable to an Omega 56x/75x or an ETA 2892-A2.
Try to talk me out of buying an Astron Chronograph.
>>54894539
>>54894539
The only thing that I have a question mark over is the size and how it wears - can't find many places around here that stock them to try on.
>>54894539
I have a JDM Citizen ProMaster Sky which has radio sync, and I love it.
A GPS feature on a watch would be even better. Get it if you like it.
I think Citizen also came out with a GPS watch
>>54894511
Wait, are you trying to tell me the 5216 doesn't have instantaneous date change? Where did you hear that?
I was mainly looking for a 5216 because it had the added spring-loaded pawl that eliminated the risk of damaged to the quickset (meaning it can be set any time of day). But dammit, I didn't want to lose muh instantaneous changeover for that.
>>54894082
Does your KQ look like mine?
If it does I'll take your LM, please and thank you. How long until you've worked yourself into a completely inescapable trench? Also post pics of Citizen, I'm wondering if this is a bullet I happened to dodge.
Anon, what watch would you get with an unlimited budget?
in the pic my choice
>>54894722
Every HMT watch ever made
>>54894722
Every NOS Seiko 52 caliber in the world
>>54893256
Fair enough, i'll try to get another LM special but with a different looking dial, likely going to get my quite nice Aussie proxy buyer to search for one instead. I'll likely end up paying about the same, since he gladly helps me avoid import taxes.
Which oddly enough were recently changed, so if it's a used watch valued under 300$ i seem to get no taxes at all if they are said to be paid(?) or some bs like that.
>>54894103
Mine was off said proxy seller via WUS, but that's a whole other story.
Ebay isn't a bad bet if you can snipe them for sub 130$.
>>54894721
Nope, no instant date change.
>>54894082
So nothing to the kike who set you up with you LM special?
And no, i'm not Canadian.
>>54894722
Every watch unique,interesting and uncanny movement made pre-2000 or before they started to resort to Richard Mille tier designs.
>>54894818
>you
Your*
And i still haven't started with the liquor today.
>>54880680
holy fuck, perfection
>>54894722
I feel like if you're buying that watch you don't need for it to go on sale.
>>54894867
A wide range of Apple's products were affected by the interruption in service, including:
iOS App Store
Apple TV
iCloud Backup
iCloud Drive
iCloud Notes
iCloud Storage Upgrades
iCloud Web Apps
iTunes in the Cloud
iWork for iCloud
Mac App Store
Mail Drop
Photos
Volume Purchase Program
A wide range of Apple's products were affected by the interruption in service, including:
iOS App Store
Apple TV
iCloud Backup
iCloud Drive
iCloud Notes
iCloud Storage Upgrades
iCloud Web Apps
iTunes in the Cloud
iWork for iCloud
Mac App Store
Mail Drop
Photos
Volume Purchase Program
A wide range of Apple's products were affected by the interruption in service, including:
iOS App Store
Apple TV
iCloud Backup
iCloud Drive
iCloud Notes
iCloud Storage Upgrades
iCloud Web Apps
iTunes in the Cloud
iWork for iCloud
Mac App Store
Mail Drop
Photos
Volume Purchase Program
Apple has provided no explanation yet for the cause of the outage.
>>54894850
No this is. I wish I they still made these.
>>54894883
um what.
>>54894885
hnnnnnnnnngggggggg
>>54894885
>80's Casio
>F-15
>It has the colors of Starscream
>Starscream was an F-15
Coincidence? Or conspiracy of the yellow jew?
>>54894722
Every Penisquartz in the world, and I'd have them all destroyed. The meme needs to die.
Oh, and a Fifthy Fathoms and a perpetual Vacheron for myself, thanks.
>>54894818
Where did you hear about the date change thing? This is relevant to me since I have a 5216 on the way.
Also there are several Canadian regulars in these threads, all of which I believe now own a Lord Matic. I find it hilarious how we all live within ~2 hours of each other.
>>54894422
>>The 28800 bph 52 caliber is better than the 36000 bph 61GS caliber in general
There are trade-offs on both sides of 28800 vs 36000 and no one has been able to demonstrate conclusively that 36k is inherently more accurate in general, and certainly not that remaining 614x and 618x calibers today have any accuracy advantage over the 52xx.
Remember that factory adjustment is irrelevant at 40 years remove, and what matters much more is movement robustness and inherent accuracy and adjustability.
The 52xx appears generally to be blessed with pretty amazing inherent accuracy, and as I said, most good condition regularly serviced examples can easily be gotten to run under +/- 2s/d.
If you have a specific technical argument as to why the 61GS movements have any clear design, reliability and inherent accuracy advantages over the 52xx, I'd love to hear them.
>>The chronometer 5246 is specifically better than the VFA 618x which caused the legendary Swiss observatory butthurt
Actually, that was the Daini produced manual winding 45xx as in the 45GS that did that, but thanks for playing.
Just got my first Slavshit & hand-wound watch.
Dumb question, but which direction should I wind the crown?
Also is there any way to figure out if the crown has a second stop for changing the date? I want to make sure before I pull it too hard and break it.
>>54895078
>Also is there any way to figure out if the crown has a second stop for changing the date?
Pull it, cycle the hands 24 hours, and see if the date changes.
Also. Clockwise tends to be the winding direction.
>>54894721
>>54895045
The 5216 and 5256 sacrificed the instant changeover for the spring loaded pawl to safeguard against damage from the quick-set being used between 9pm and 3am.
The changeover is still pretty fast on the 521x/525x, but it isn't instant.
>>54895045
>tfw when you don't have any buds that live close to you and you could chat with them about your vintage JDM Seikos
Unless they want to visit the middle east.
Also see the LM special in the earlier picture.
>>54895078
It's a fucking Poljot 2614, It doesn't quickset the date nor does it hack.
You wind it clockwise and enjoy.
>>54895045
Seriously though, it's actually legitimately absurd. Shane must be wondering why he started getting so many vintage Seikos all of a sudden!
>>54895052
Holy fuck quit shilling the 52 caliber so much before it becomes the next Penisquartz. I need to pick up at least one 5206/5246 with the instant date change now that I know my 5216 doesn't have that. My autism will never be satisfied otherwise.
>>54895126
Are we talking Vostok 2414 levels of quick?
>>54895139
I've never actually seen the other Canadians. I just know of them through our mutual watchmaker. I think we're too socially reclusive to actually meet and chat about Lord Memes.
>>54894722
I could sit here rattling off watches I'd love to buy for a long ass time. The very first watch I would go and buy though is an MB&F Horological Machine 4. To me it's just the absolute coolest looking watch out there.
>>54895121
>>54895139
Annoying, but I guess I can't complain for such a cheap watch. Thanks
>>54895224
The 5206 doesn't have instant date switching. Usually takes like a good 4 hours to do it (12AM~4Am)
t. 5206 owner.
>>54895174
He has been. The first one or two times I went to see him he was saying something along the lines of "you used to see Seikos all the time, but only the stuff they sold here, these Japanese ones only came once in a blue moon. Now everyone seems to have one"
/wt/, I just dropped my watch on the tile floor of my bathroom (about 3 feet high, it was on top of my shirt which I pulled with quite some strength).
It's a vintage ETA/Swiss diver from the 70's that has just been serviced.
It's running fine now but tell me, am I fucked? I'm so pissed at myself right now...
Incoming Neptunes, my niggers...
>>54891433
Like 50 bucks on amazon
If you're younger than 70 you won't be able to pull it off though
Just get the silver one
>2016
>not buying a Casio ISIS watch
http://www.casio-intl.com/asia-mea/en/wat/watch_detail/CPW-500H-9AV/
>>54895472
Good Lord that's an ugly color. I might be down for this whitish/silverish one or the blue one.
>>54895224
Sorry, but I have to defend my favorite Seiko caliber.
Also, my KS 5256 has the date change at midnight but the day of the week changes between midnight and 3am, probably as a result of the pawl swap.
>>54895262
My 5206 changes both day and date instantly at midnight.
>>54895267
Fucking kek.
>>54894539
Casio's syncing and GPS modules greatly outshine Seikos
Get an Oceanus or Edifice
>>54895748
>casioshit
>ever
>>54895814
Literally outclasses every Seiko and Citizen watch in the price range
Just try to find another ~$500 watch with the same feature set.
>>54895720
Mine starts changing the date&day at 12am and changes fully at 4AM. Then again my day mech is broken, likely a damaged or badly seated part somewhere. (Quickset works)
Though it's a good enough reason to get myself another couple of LM special's, one working and one for parts.
Weekdater is pretty neat though, date switches between 12AM and 12:20 while the day because it's larger finishes at about 12:50AM.
>>54895472
>>54895635
Where did you find these? Are there any more versions?
>>54894722
I'd commission a watchmaker to produce a watch of METAS accuracy that incorporates a mechanical calculator, day date and month function, adjustable alarm function, and moon phase function.
>>54895454
Pls help.
>>54896059
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
>>54893903
If you can open it properly, then take a pic of the inside of it. Usually the model or some other identifying numbers are on the inside of the caseback.
>>54895454
Fingers crossed anon, fingers crossed. Assuming nothing is rattling around it might be fine but keep an eye on the timekeeping. If it the rate seems fucked it might need to go right back to the watchmaker's. If it helps you sleep at night, my 61GS took a similar knock at jewelry shop due to the butterfingers of a careless employee and came out okay.
>>54895224
>>54895052
Considering how often it is discussed 52 caliber has become the new penismeme and I might need to fall for it myself.
>>54895267
You Canadians are lucky to have someone so well versed in JDM Seikos. I had to look around before I could find someone that would touch mine.
>>54893903
Your best bet is to take it to a watchmaker and have them open it up for you.
>>54896155
>>My 61GS
>Owning a 61GS and not posting pictures of it in /wt/
Why is this allowed?
>>54896020
Enjoy your inch thick watch
>>54895248
cool stuff
>>54895748
OK, I actually like this Oceanus. With the features of these watches being pretty similar it's going to come to to looks for me. Right now it's Astron > Oceanus > Citizen F900. Definitely going to have to think this through some more.
>>54884570
>is that dial a repaint?
No m8. It's the original dial, no retouching. Except the crown -wich was reinstalled by Omega when they have to serviced it, due to the previous owner loosing the original when he hit it off-, it's all in original condition.
>I find the Chronometre spelling and the huge modern-style SWISS MADE text a little suspicious
>There's so many different models with slightly different text that I never know what's original.
The spelling is correct, and the big Swiss Made looks that way because the crystal refraction.
Remeber that, like with almost all vintage productions, watchmakers would ocasinally change some tiny specs of a watch for very different reasons, without updating the reference code. Other times, it was made especially for a particular maket, country or store, so lots of different posibilities right there.
For example, not many people are aware that a fair amount of different Omega references sold in Americas during the seventies and eighties have bracelets Hecho en Mexico -made in Mexico- and that are undoubtly original, since those were made by Holzer y Co. by commission of Omega itself. Even more, Joske's -a Texan AD- managed to get its own particular production of such bracelets, as it did with Rolex as well, and eventually even asked for changes in the design, wich Holzer accepted.
For this reason, to this day there is no complete catalog of all the different variations available of brazelets made for specific models like the Speedmaster Mark IV and Mark IV.5 sold in Americas.
>>54890072
>This is what makes me scared to buy vintage Swiss watches.
A way to avoid this, if you don't have suffice knowledge, is to buy from companies that make their living by spotting any franken, like house auctions. This Pie Pan came thru the same expert that used to curate Bergdorf Goodman collection.
Watches like these is why quartz is superior.
>>54896155
Thanks, anon. Hopefully nothing happened. It didn't stop working for any second and there's nothing rattling.
It's kept time for the past hour as well. Praying for the Swiss gods now.
>>54896395
Does the Astron have TiC on the case/bracelet?
Also I'm really not trying to shill but Casio makes better modules.
Astrons will simply not sync while indoors.
Although this is a fairly complicated argument, as I'm sure the astron has things that the oceanus line doesn't
What's your main reason for liking the Astron better?
These kinds of watches aren't discussed here often due to them not being /fa/ enough for the faggots on here.
>>54896444
>Proudly made in the USA
>Case, crystal and "leather" all made in china
>Movement made in china or is a cheap mioyta
What watch does trump actually wear though?
I remember Cruz had a Calatrava
>>54896199
I've posted it a long time ago. Nobody really responded. Granted my poor skills in photography and use of a cell phone camera don't really do the thing justice.
>>54896020
Have somebody outside of swatch group make it (double kek if Seiko Credor) just to revel in the swatch group marketer butt hurt.
>>54896495
I read somewhere that he wears a Rolex Presidential Day Date but I have no clue about the accuracy of that claim.
