why does /g/ hate windows 10?
>fast
>snappy
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
>desktop switcher is a really nice feature
>you can disable key botnet features easily
Oh boy here comes 190 replies omitted to a shill/troll thread
>>54877594
>inb4 botnet
>inb4 pajeet
>nib4 POOINLOO
>inb4 X rubees have been deposited in your account
because they're a bunch of salty cucks who still haven't come to terms with the fact that NOTHING in Open Sores can compete with software written by people who actually get paid for their work
you can make windows 10 say the botnet feature is off*
it sucks desu
>>54877594
Hanayo a cute
>>54877644
doesnt microcuck only use temp poo in loos for all their shit? (no pun intended)
>>54877594
>You can disable key botnet figures easily.
Sure you can anon
>>54877594
It's a piece of botnet shit. Christ, even windows users like myself fucking hate it.
>>54877594
I just booted it for the first time in months, I forgot how much of a clusterfuck it is.
And let's not forget the mass amounts of datamining
>>54877594
>fast
sure
>snappy
I believe you
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
They both look good
>desktop switcher is a really nice feature
Already have that on Linux
>you can disable key botnet features easily
No. There's several of those in random places and you need to use sketchy third party software to fully do it. Plus they reactivate themselves every other patch.
No thanks.
>>54877594
>boots up windows 10
>"installing updates"
>"cannot install updates. Now restarting."
>temporarily disabled internet on the last session
>mfw windows 10 tries to install updates without internet
>mfw windows 10 possibly turned enabled internet without my permission
before that
>windows 10 vm
>privacy settings disabled, diagtrack deleted and telemetry, onedrive, and windows defender disabled
>even install spybot anti beacon for good measure
>have not touched computer at all
>so why the fuck is wireshark blowing up packets?
>>54877594
>key botnet
>be at friend's house
>he has no Internet
>our other friend comes over, they both use Windows 10 laptops
>the one that just stopped by goes "oh by the way next time you connect to the Internet you're not going to be able to use your laptop for like 20 minutes"
>mfw
>>54878208
>having friends
wew
>>54877594
Kayochin a cute
>>54877594
is this the daily poo thread?
>>54877594
because it doesn't do anything better than Windows 7 for me and you can't turn disable the botnet Pajeet
>botnet
>no classic theme
I prefer to be the owner of my own computer instead of transferring ownership to Microsoft.
>lack of update options
>extension-closed Edge that is integrated into pretty much everything
>new app-framework-driven start menu breaks a ton of shit, including itself, and becomes unresponsive for no a parent reason all the time
>logs are becoming harder and harder to find or simply don't exist anymore, make even basic troubleshooting tasks a humongous chore
I can run pretty much all the games I care about on Linux now. Zero reason to look back, especially with how LibreOffice has gotten very mature, so I can even run a capable office suite without WINE.
>>54877594
>looks better than windows 7
I don't dislike how 7 looks. I HATE how 10 looks. I prefer 8.1.
No classic theme.
What the fuck MicroShit?
I always set up classic theme at work so people can shit on me for it.
>>54877594
Who is that ugly bitch?
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/thsGd
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
https://archive.is/zK93U
Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
https://archive.is/KQsBh
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54880333
Don't bully Hanayo
>>54877594
I hate it because its incostent as fuck
>window borders and taskbar different colour
>4-5 different right click menus
>cant even customize it to be consistent
>scroll bars rendered on kernel level?
>mess of settings and control panel
Its just a messy mix of modern and old. Microsoft should ditch windows already and make a linux distro. But I doubt they even have programmers able to pull that off.
>using windows 7
>constantly being harassed to upgrade my botnet
>go to gym to workout
>come home
>windows 10 automatically upgraded
>mfw
>>54877594
>why does /g/ hate windows 10?
Universal Windows Platform apps.
>>54880333
best raibu
>>54877638
3 $ been deposited in your redneck shilling account
>>54882966
How does this happen? I've stayed on a copy of Windows 7 since Windows 8 was released and I haven't been auto-upgraded or anything.
>>54878818
This.
The fuck did the classic theme ever do to windows? Why won't they support it?
>>54877594
>>fast
>>snappy
Clunky as hell and drags all the time in my experience. Maybe it's my C2D. Maybe it's Windows 10.
>>54877984
yeah they do, but that's still better than neckbeards writing one line of code every 6 months, then throwing everything away and starting over because "now the cool kids are doing Go"
>>54883471
because they own a legal copy of windows
>piracy 1 - 0 microshit
>>54877594
>>>/a/
Fucking faggot.
>>54877594
Nah, I'm happy with 8.1.
>30 pesos have been desposited into ur bank account, juanito
>>54877594
>fast
ehh, not really, it's no faster than any Linux distribution even with GNOME desktop environment
>snappy
Isn't this the same as fast?
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
This one is dead wrong. With Aero on 7, the taskbar was transparent and the window borders were transparent, and matching color. In 10, the taskbar is black (or some other color if you set it manually) and the window borders are always white unless it's an "app"
>you can disable key botnet features easily
The only settings that you can alter without a third party application typically pop back out when you update the OS (which, of course, it automatic bt default).
Sorry dude, it's just not a good operating system. I've got a drive with it installed for those few games that just refuse to support Linux, but Fedora Linux is what I run 99% of the time.
>>54880534
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
FUGG
>fast
Not from what i've seen
>snappy
opinion
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
opinion
>desktop switcher is a really nice feature
shitty gnome 3 knockoff
>you can disable key botnet features easily
I don't have time to waste thinkering with my os to gain basic control
>>54884721
>Since data collection started, a bunch of losers spent half an hour for each human being on the planet playing escapist fun simulators
Never using windows again, just to avoid association with those losers
>>54877594
>fast
As slow as Vista
>snappy
Snappy, but easily an eye sore
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
I actually like Aero.
>desktop switcher is a really nice feature
Like a ripoff from KDE.
>you can disable key botnet features easily
Can't trust this when Microsoft holds my Windows 10 as a hostage.
>>54877594
name of the show?
>>54877594
W10 disable well know cracks and activators for popular software (Office, Cubase, Adobe creative, etc).
Especially when the next Office, Cubase and Adobe products are w10 exclusives and dont exist cracks for Store.
>>54884863
Love Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJQXshfncfc
>>54883471
>>54883670
>be me
>legal 8.1 pro
>see upgrade notice months ago
>'nah'
>nothing happened
People reserved/scheduled their upgrade when it came out months ago, then forgot. Or maybe it just targets random people for forced upgrades.
>>54877594
Yeah alright I'll bite
> fast
So's my Windows 7 install.
> snappy
So's my Windows 7 install.
> looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
Subjective.
> desktop switcher is a really nice feature
Subjective usability. I've never used it.
> you can disable key botnet features easily
Why were they enabled by default? Tests have shown that W10 proceeds to phone home once it tells you that data collection has been disabled.
>>54877594
>Oh boy here comes 190 replies omitted to a shill/troll thread
Yes, we need battlestations thread #300, homescreen thread #500, thread about Gentoo or "sysadmins" that manage linux servers using graphical interfaces.
>>54884885
Wow, you might actually have to pay for something you entitled fuck. What a concept.
>>54884910
>It didn't happen to me when I did nothing so it didn't happen to anyone when they did nothing
Fuck off windows shill
>>54884928
>I love giving everyone my money when I don't have to! I just piss it away and refuse any fiscal responsibility!
>>54877594
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
But uglier than Windows classic.
>>54884974
I don't even like windows that much. I wouldn't use it at all if it wasn't for work and games. But I'll take my rupees, thank you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>54885003
>Windows classic looks good meme
Rape is illegal even if it's a good thing, you know.
Installing windows 10 is like being raped. You have no choice. You can't say no. It keeps asking. When you say no it installs it anyway.
Being literally raped by microsoft is a bad way to introduce a new OS
>>54885077
>Rape is illegal even if it's a good thing
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>54885047
>he doesn't like windows classic
>>54885103
Damn right I don't. It's an ugly piece of shit.
>>54885100
for the attacker, obviously.
>>54885121
How does it look like an ugly piece of shit?
Regardless, if someone likes it and thinks it looks good, then it looks good.
If you don't, you don't.
>Memeing about personal preferences
Pathetic.
>>54885131
That's a terrible analogy, it hardly makes any sense whatsoever. Maybe you've got rape on the mind?
>>54885121
I agree with this anon.
>>54885147
Are you saying rapists don't enjoy raping?
>>54885162
Are you kidding? I always enjoy it.
I'm the one who thinks that Vista was the best looking Windows?
>>54884993
>I hate it when people get paid for their work. Why can't I exploit the labor of others? By the way I'm a registered Libertarian and have a cave full of bitcoins
>>54885417
>not having a cave full of bitcoins
>>54877594
/g/ hated vista until it was rebranded as Windows 7 too. Give it another release for the contrarians to get bored.
>>54885487
>/g/ is one person
end your life
>>54885502
>anyone on /g/ is intelligent enough to do more than repeat memes and copy+paste code, much less develop independent and well thought out opinions
If anyone on /g/ was even smart enough to configure their router firewall, botnet wouldn't even be an issue.
>>54885531
can you elaborate? which IP ranges would I want to target to blacklist the botnet? this much seems opaque to me.
>>54885435
I used em all on the satin path :(
>>54885873
>Emoting with text
>On an imageboard
Son, I...
everybody
>>54885899
wow I tried to reply to this with an emoji but this shit website pruned it. :(
>>54886137
>
Well,
-It's the same in terms of speed, unless you count a handful of games
-"Looks better" highly subjective, which doesn't even matter because on Windows 7 you have a much higher availability for custom themes. I think the Paint blocks everywhere show nothing but laziness, and it's not even consistent. In fact I will say, Windows 10 looks so bad I'd rather dual boot not to hurt my eyesight. It follows a shitty trend rather than creating anything. I'd love to get hired by microsoft to fix this shoddy mess.
-If you used Windows regularly you would probably have no need for it. I've been using windows 10 since the beginning of the year and I have used it twice.
-You cannot disable the botnet fully and the "leftovers" are bad enough. To think a tool or a bunch of commands can stop it is fairly delusional.
The only advantages I found on windows 10 are attributed to specific games or emulators.
>>54877594
>looks better than the aero shit
Wow you are right, an UI made in powerpoint actually looks great!
>>54885863
Monitor your traffic, block appropriate outgoing connections.
>>54886235
>an UI
>>54886246
What's wrong. It's 'an user interface', u is a vowel.
>>54886254
You lack basic understanding of not only the english language but also its roots and the ultimate purpose of using an over a.
>>54877594
>fast
No issues with speed on Debian running on a 2009 chinkpad
>snappy
See above
>looks better than aero
Riced KDE does this
>desktop switcher
Standard feature of every major DE for 10+ years
>can disable botnet easily
From what I've read MS constantly pushes new updates reenabling the botnet.
>>54886279
For me, english is fucking weird. For example, it uses 'an' when there's a vowel but if the word sounds like it starts with a vowel, the you use 'an' (e.g an honour). It's because 'user' sounds like 'yuser'?
>>54886303
That's fairly correct. Yes.
>>54877618
It's already started...
>>54886395
>ellipses
You do know you're contributing to the reply count, right?
How the fuck do I disable the botnet in my Windows 10
>>54886887
You can't unless you have a specific version of the os, but I don't remember which one
>decide to finally give in and update windows
>they remove my network drivers
>they remove speccy
what the fuck. this fucking company just keeps amazing me. they fucking do it again as if they dont even care. i had to go on my phone and download a network driver because these idiots removed mine. nice user friendliness fucking morons. so you can spend all this money on useless apps and other bullshit i dont need that is ''user friendlier'' but i have to download this fucking shit again because you dun goofed?
fuck u bitch
at least i learned something new today. i learned that you should never update windows. thank you microsoft for making me a wiser man!
>>54886887
you need the enterprise version to do that. as a consumer there is no way to legally obtain the enterprise version of windows 10, you'll have to pirate it, crack it and infect yourself with an actual chinese botnet to do so.
>>54887213
kmspico.
>>54887350
that's the chinese botnet
>>54877644
Which version of windows should I use if i'm only going to dual boot it on a mac for playing CS:S on cracked russian and chinese servers?
>>54877594
>you can disable key botnet features easily
No you can't.
I use it, I've had my issues with it but it's still by far the best desktop OS for me.
>>54887904
7 or 8.1
All my issues with Windows 10
>No synchronous file IO even dropping back to win32 API.
>Old API's are emulated nothing is real. Your system is highly unpredictable from a programming standpoint.
>Advertisements in muh start menu
>P2P patching
>Botnet.jpg
>New start search is slower then old b/c it has to make a few http calls (even with cortana disabled).
>If I areo snap 1 window, why try to make me areo snap another?
>DX12 is still meme tier and only in demo games written by gpu manufacturers
>Forces my computer in legacy BIOS mode instead of UEFI mode.
If you belong on /v/ then you have no issue with Windows10.
>>54877594
>you can disable key botnet features easily
Do you actually believe that to be true? You think Microsoft honestly would make it that easy? Too bad you'll never know because you don't have access to the source code :^)
>>54877594
>settings and control panel are a clusterfuck of doubled up settings, sometimes the setting you want is in the "settings" version, sometimes it is in "control panel"
>some scrollable views cant be scrolled with the mouse wheel
>cant type to quick navigate dropdowns in settings, particularly bad for language/region settings
>back button in settings sometimes takes you back a page, sometimes dumps you back at the beginning
Windows 10 does have a lot of things going for it but it lacks polish. They shoved out a frankenstein of Windows 7 and 8 on us incomplete and it is going to be years before it stops being a frustration for anyone but an average Joe to use.
>>54887967
>>New start search is slower then old b/c it has to make a few http calls (even with cortana disabled).
This as well.
Also, sometimes when I click the search icon in the taskbar nothing happens. It is more reliable to click the start menu button and just start typing than click the search button.
In fact, I should just get rid of the search button. It has practically no purpose other than to sometimes fail.
>>54887873
>>54877594
Looks better, with the start menu tiles taken off I'll give you that.
There's no way you can disable all the botnet features. Broken as all hell. I gave in and actually used it as my main OS for 2 months. By the end of the two months, majority of programs would hardly ever load up, it took ages to navigate from folder, for some reason it hard such a hard time using my hard drive. Restart and Shutdown button did literally nothing. My WiFi was full on broken, from the very start it was slower than usual, by the end connecting to the WiFi did nothing.
When I gave up and tried to make a USB boot for Windows 7 it's as if it literally put up a fight. Wouldn't navigate to the folder where I downloaded the ISO, refused to load up any partition programs I installed, nor any USB boot creation programs.
Back to Windows 7 for 2 months and it's flawless, 10x faster, no issues, WiFi is god like once again.
0/10 would not touch again
>>54888233
I have problems with WiFi on W8.
Are the latest Windows OSes just that fucking broken?
>>54888247
It's likely that you have set updates to install all recommended. Windows telemtry (spyware) has been updated into W7 and 8 too. Google the updates you should uninstall.
>Out of all the millions of people who use windows 10, I know Microsoft wants to read what IVE typed
Sure they do. Keep believing the term "Botnet" means anything.
So how tough is Linux to use for the computer illiterate?
>>54877594
>>you can disable key botnet features easily
The question is - what you consider the botnet and what does /g/ Linux users consider the botnet.
It is known fact, stated by MS official articles and documentation, that you cannot disable the telemetry component at the core - it will always send data, only the data itself is controlled by various settings. For example, typical Home users will probably send packages containing app usage data, system cofnigurations, error reports and such. At the same time, Edu/Enterprise user that would switch off proper settings (honestly, it sucks that those are on by default and you have to set up it yourself first, even if you can just write script to do so - MS itself suggest this solution for administrators at companies), would still send packages, only this time limited to machine ID, system ID and machine class (desktop/laptop/tablet).
Packages themselves are encrypted (duh, if I would send my users possibly personal data, I would encrypt it too) and nobody officially (save for some guys from /g/ claiming they did so - nobody else managed to repeat the process, nor they shared the way how they did that) broke the encryption. You can always change various settings and compare sizes of such packages, if you have enough time for such activity.
But keep in mind that many people on /g/ consider botnet everything that connects back. Even if Win10 would connect only for legal verification and updates, it would still be called botnet. Also, all those rumors about NSA backdoors and such.
/g/ wont ever love Windows 10, that is a fact. How Windows 7 is somehow considered good OS and even recommended is a big surprise (even if it is usually followed by "...BUT you should use Linux distro anyway").
Myself, I dont really have much choice here, I need some kind of Windows and since Im about to buy new PC in next two months or something, it will have dual boot 7 and 10 (Edu). I had partition for Mint, but dont use it.
>>54888394
ubuntu and mint are arguably easier to use and harder to fuck up than any windows.
if you don't care about video games, you should be using linux.
>>54880534
>Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input, location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history, even after related settings are turned off:
For hell sake, at least update your pasta, instead of mindlessly copying it over and over. The first half of links are about technical preview version.
And later you wonder why people outside of /g/ dont treat you seriously.
>>54877618
you mean 116 posts and 21 images omitted?
>>54877594
(You)
>>54888453
>>54888446
I once asked mother if she wants Linux. She replied: "would my accounting software work under Linux?". I replied that I have no idea, so she said that she dont want experiments, but OS that will WORK.
I, myself, have a lot of software at work that works only under Windows and nobody have time and will to adjust them to work under Linux.
>>54884569
>it's no faster than any Linux distribution
Shut the fuck up. You fags can't even into hardware acceleration right how the fuck is Linux faster than Windows? Just shut the fuck up and shove your sluggish timesink OS in your ass.
Guys, I have the opportunity to remove the windows 10 and install 7 with only the important updates that do not include stupid shit by microsoft up until may
Should I go back? It ain't like I'm going to be playing dx12 games anytime soon (except for ishiiruka which I can live without I guess)
>>54888470
>>54888470
Are you aware that EULA have to contain parts about every possibility and every component?
If you enable Cortana, she will collect very personal data. She is on by default, so it have to be mentioned in EULA. If you would use OneDrive (again, on by default), it will collect a lot of personal data (and scan your pictures).
Imagine the shitstorm, if it would NOT be mentioned.
>>54887213
What about Windows 10 Pro? Can you disable?
>>54888501
you can try linux in a vm and then run your software with wine to see if it works. if it does, you can switch, if it doesn't, stick to windows.
a lot of professional software doesn't work on linux, but i assumed by computer illiterate you meant someone browsing facebook and youtube all day.
>>54888437
Wake up feeling like shit.
Bring up /g/.
First post I see is logical and well written.
Thank you anon.
>>54888588
+10 rupees
>>54888689
>5 cents have been deposited into your FSF account. Hail Stallman!
>>54888698
+10 rupees
>>54888709
>no u
I can get how some people would be off put by how Windows 10 communicates with the internet, but the level of vitriol against it isn't really justified
>>54888729
Fuck off pajeet
>>54888745
nice, very classy. I'm sure you know exactly what you're talking about
>>54888745
Get a job PaNEET
I will fully 100% switch over to Linux when the following happens.
>Adobe releases native support for there entire Creative Cloud suite
>My Steam library is about half supported: currently only 20 games out of 240 supported
>Blizzard now supports Linux
>Ubuntu drops unity
>Pacman stops breaking Arch
>systemd now includes a office suite
>>54888661
You are welcome. I just refuse to swallow everything without questions, so I try to check different opinions first. But Im often called "pajeet" for that.
>>54888173
>thicc
>>54888368
The saying "No snowflake in an avalanche would blame itself" springs to mind.
Moron.
>>54888067
>I'm fairly sure shitnux doesn't pull that stuff on me, I personally reviewed 6 million lines of code PLUS code for drivers and 3rd parties.
>>54877594
>fast
not really
>snappy
no
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
lmao no
>desktop switcher is a really nice feature
I really don't need it
>you can disable key botnet features easily
hahahhahahaahahahahahahhaha
>>54877594
Wangblows 10 is the final boss
to be honestly just install Temple OS senpai if you want to beat it
>>54877594
>looks better than the aero shit in windows 7
I use a classic theme.
>>54877618
I'm 141th
https://youtu.be/TXTWCqTRIag
>>54884902
Their panting and squeaking is worse than in Japanese porn.
>>54877664
Couldn't have a better reasoning than that?
>tfw safe
>>54890161
>XP
>Safe
Pick one
Thousands of know exploits for XP rofl, but nice VM anyway
>>54890175
I'm afraid it's not a VM lad.
>>54890224
Hope you don't log into any private shit on that thing
>>54877594
>slow compared to modern desktop linux distros
>crappy
>awful with these squarish tiles and flat design
>you can't disable the botnet
>>54890252
I do log on my bank's website occasionally, I can't help it - I trust my phone even less with that shit.
>>54878208
>see people take out their computers to take notes in class
>nope, gotta update for 20mins
>they sit there without writing anything down until it's done updating and restarting like 3 times
>>54890297
Enjoy
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-739/cvssscoremin-5/cvssscoremax-5.99/Microsoft-Windows-Xp.html
>>54890532
That's a lot of vulnerabilities but I can't upgrade, anon..
>>54877618
fpbp
>>54890609
You can switch to Linux, I doubt you're doing anything on XP with that machine that you can't do on a low-requirement Linux. With the added bonus of security (compared to XP) and likely even better performance as the low demand linuxs are less demanding than XP
