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Previously on: >>54836389

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL) - Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt to use IRC on a web client.

Visit the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread/Website:
http://fglt.nl/

Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org/
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First for please respond >>54844377 >>54844442
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if anyone didn't see it yet, have a look at >>>/wg/6576665
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>>54851210
why
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>>54851259
Why not? A bit of humor doesn't hurt every once in a while.
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What does the presence of ipv6 in the output of lsmod imply if I have the following settings in my /etc/sysctl.conf on a RHEL machine?

net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0
net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1


lsmod | grep ipv6
ipv6 335781 14
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>>54851008
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>>54851515
LoL
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I'm tired of seeing white background, so I tried to rice my Luci theme, this is the result with 40% opacity.

What do you think of my theme ?
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>>54851596
opacity kills it. But this is not really the right place for this i think.
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How is Mint different from Ubuntu?

I tried out the two but Mint just seemed to be a Chinese cheap edition of Ubuntu with some cool eye-candy (open this as root, open in terminal) but friendlier feeling.

>not instigating
>not racism
>serious
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>>54851515
American Spotted Eagle
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http://ubuntu-il.org/ ?
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>>54852687
באובונטו ישראל
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>>54852544
Mint is the result of a tragic misunderstanding by it's developers: that if you fork a DE and a few of it's programs, you have to make your own distro.
For a more extreme example of that look at Elementary OS.

Mint is a derivate of Ubuntu, while Ubuntu is already a derivate of Debian. Ubuntu removes Debian branding (of which there is very little) and adds a lot of it's own branding and a few of their own programs. Mint removes the Ubuntu branding again and adds their own and also some programs.
While Debian has a clear distinction between free and nonfree software and even Ubuntu treats the issue with some respect, Mint just throws it out of the Window and adds everything regardless of whether or not it makes sense.

For these reasons we usually recommend Debian in this thread, because it is easier to start with something that's lacking and building on it, than to start with a monstrosity made by too many parties and remove parts from it.
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Is there a radio program for GNU/Linux that is similar in usage to radiodroid on f-droid?
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>>54851023
What did you try to far? getting stuff to run that is not in the wine database is a bit hard for a new wine users. what is RAGS and how far did you get?
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What's the point of users, groups, and permissions if I have to do everything as root anyway?

What's the point of not just being root all the time on a desktop machine?

I'm aware of the (minimally) increased security of limiting permissions of running processes in a server or embedded environment so don't start with that spiel, please.

$ sudo docker run
$ sudo npm install -g
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo gem install #this one and
$ sudo pip install #this one really bug me


Actually now that I think about it, allow me rephrase: why do libre distros such as debian have this obnoxious tendency to restrict directory permissions in such a way that programs such as npm, gem, pip, and other developer-centric, optional software that an end-user uses on a daily basis require root for common actions? Like, it's entirely possible to have these programs use a directory that has global read/write, I don't understand it

>inb4 take it up with debian
>inb4 stop using harmful software
>inb4 other gnu/nonanswers

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my shitpost: please consider installing gentoo ]]]
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>>54854319
nice shitpost, if it bothers you, create aliases for these things and increase the sudo timeout. the security improvement is not minimal at all.
you could try logging in as root all the time but that is a retarded idea.
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>>54854319

>$ sudo gem install #this one and
>$ sudo pip install #this one really bug me
>installing python/ruby modules with those things and not using proper packages

Have fun hunting down leftover files.
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Is there any reason to not switch from Xubuntu to Fedora?
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>>54855003
Ubanto and derivatives have a convenient way of installing proprietary drivers. You won't find that on Fedora.

But otherwise, not really.

Just remember to install rpmfusion, install freetype-freeworld and put "Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault" in your .Xresources.
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How come I need to install an extra package to make Num Lock turn itself on after booting? Why doesn't it get the Num Lock status from the BIOS settings?
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>>54855046
I had no idea such package even exist.
Hell I had no idea people have such problems.
What's that package?
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>>54855041
Ive never had to install drivers before (yay memepad popularity) so im probably good.
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>>54855069

numlockx.
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>>54855080
If I was you I would actually wait a little bit.
Fedora 24 release is scheduled on 16.06.
If you install now you will have to upgrade release in 2 weeks.

Hold your horses until 20.06 (always give every distro a little bit of time after the release because huge fuck ups happen often).

20 days is not long
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>>54855177
I guess I'll fuck around with debian till then. My Xubuntu install is fucked for some reason now and i dont really want to fix it.
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>>54854319
>minimally
sudo curl hacks.thehackerknownas4chan.io/colored_zsh_ps1.sh | sh
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Why hasn't Arch Linux updated to 4.6 yet?
I'm just curious.
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>>54856161
why would they?
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>>54856304
I dunno, why should they stop at 4.5?
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>>54855046
setleds
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>>54851008
hey guys noob nis here again :)
so yesterday finally got nis green lighted and yptest pass all test except #3

WARNING: No such key in map (Map passwd.byname, key nobody)

but thats not my main concern.

it seems when i try to imitate Tor iptables i get domain not bound error and yptest now shows domain not bound.

so again no tor. system runs
i run tor iptable and loose domain bound?

can anyone enlighten me on this^
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>>54851008
Costa Rican faggot in /g/
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>>54851008
So I have an issue I'm not sure how to fix. Maybe /fglt/ can help. I clean-installed 16/04 ubuntu on a computer using an AMD graphics card to try and get a steam game to work. I updated the driver, and restarted, and it boots into Ubuntu, but there's no dash/taskbar. I can get into terminal, and that's about it.
Any suggestions?
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>>54851596
>1G swap on a router
uh, what?
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>>54856161
4.5.5 is the latest stable
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>>54851008
>le epik only GNU needs credit meme
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>>54856372
so do i need to setup tor iptable since there already exist a iptables

/etc/iptables/iptables.rules

?
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>>54856614
Huh. I saw picrelated on kernel.org and assumed "stable" meant "stable", but apparently "stable" is 4.5.5, while 4.6 is "mainline". Makes total sense.
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>>54856624
>le
>>>/reddit/
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>>54856667
How retarded are you?
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>>54856677
This is a friendly thread. Please choose a different thread for memes.
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>>54856694
Then stop memeing your GNU/Linux bullshit
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>>54856705
see >>54856694
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>>54856719
see >>54856705
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>>54856667
but NOOOOOOOOO, you had to reply to the obvious bait.
Whatever happened to "don't feed the trolls"?
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Alternative to shittyappsguy's software and Everything written in C and using GTK.

https://cboxdoerfer.github.io/fsearch/
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>>54856747
sorry, bud
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>>54856747
That wasn't bait
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>>54852983
that's a good answer.
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>>54856756
Looks breddy good. Thanks for sharing.
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>>54856787
No, it was.
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>>54854156
I started to use this app. I'd love to know some similar Linux software.
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>>54856787
>>54856816
#rekt
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>>54856816
You can't just call everything you don't like bait
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>>54856824
No, I can.
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>>54856832
bait
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>>54856817
I looked up what the hell radiodroid is:
>Look up online radio streams at RadioBrowser and listen to them.
(F-Droid description)

so what is RadioBrowser? Website says:
>Everyone can use this station board in their software freely. [...] It is used by the following projects:
>Rhythmbox-Radio-Browser - A plugin for rhythmbox
>StreamTuner2 (Contrib-Plugin)
>Gradio (Linux/GTK/Gnome)

Does that help?
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>>54856559
What else would you use the available storage for you dingus?
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>>54856747
oh did u forget you are in a friendly thread, there are no trolls
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>>54856756
Finally something that doesn't use pygtk
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>>54857027

What uses pygtk? Isn't that also deprecated? I think you're supposed to use pygobject instead.
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Logged into a centos server for practice purposes I do not have root.

Something is wrong and my terminal prompt is fucked up.
export PS1= "\e[0;32m[/u@/h /W]\$ /e[m "


This command fixes it but it resets every time I log in. How do I get it to run this command automatically every time I log in. I tried appending it to the .bashrc files in my home directory but it doesnt seem to work.

Any tips?
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>>54857188
your .bashrc already has a line starting with PS1 just replace that with your PS1
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>>54857210

Its empty actually outside of a commented line.

I was digging around however and found PS1 in a bash_profile file next to it. Going to try there thanks might just be some querk of the server.
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I need some help installing some drivers. I don't know the command prompts to install the files in the picture. Any help would be appreciated.

>inb4 -rm -rf. I know at least that much.
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>>54857188
>>This command fixes it
This looks seriously horrible.
>space between PS1= and "
>/ instead of \
It didn't even run in my terminal.

You maybe want something like this:
export PS1="\[\033[32m\u@\h\W\$ \033[m\]"


drop into ~/.bashrc
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>>54857404
Forgot something.
PS1="\[\033[32m\u@\h:\W\$ \033[m\]"
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>>54857328
What are those and what are they for? Are you sure you need to install them? are they in a repository?
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>>54857559
A couple of threads ago I asked for linux ethernet drivers because my comp was oddly doing some kind of internal DDoS for my network. My comp is an H8-1549, so you should be able to find it easily online. They're driver for the Ralink Ethernet Port(I think)

Please help, anon...

(Also, can't connect to internet. Can download drivers and put it onto USB though. That's how I got the files there in the first place)
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>>54857328
rm -rf / woun't actually do anything on modern systems, not even with sudo unless you add the "--no-preserve-root" flag.

To your problem: It looks like your files are archives, which usually need to be extracted and then compiled. Are you sure there's no packages or .deb files for your drivers?

Well, the easiest way to extract everything without learning all the flags is installing atool.
sudo apt-get install atool

Then you can extract any archive via:
aunpack file.tar.gz

Or tar -zxvf file.tar.gz without atool
cd into the new directory and read the INSTALL or README file. Usually you just need to do the make dance here:
make; sudo make install

But seriously, check if there are packages for your drivers, then it's just one command. Same with .deb packages.

Furthermore, Ubuntu has a tool that should do all these jobs for you. I don't remember the exact name but it's something like "Update drivers". Check the dash.
(my Ubuntu knowlege sucks, someone correct me if something is incorrect)
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>>54856756
What's wrong with locate?
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>>54857616
Quick problem though.

Pic related. I have no internet. Just an internal DDoS up in here. On LAN.

Could you give me a link for some form of atool to put onto a usb stick and then I can sudo apt-get?
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>>54857765
I guess right click > extract should do the job.
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>>54857765
Just do tar -xf file and it autodetects the type of tar and does it for you
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>>54857772
Ok, now what?
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Wth, why do we have 2 threads? >>>>>54849753
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>>54857802
as the other guy said, probably
make; sudo make install
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>>54857805
>we
Nice try samefag.
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>>54857821
???
Whatever senpai
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>>54857816
Nope, getting errors. Be more specific. Remember, this is friendly GNU. Need more details.
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>>54857805
If anyone is going to shitpost there, don't forget that sage belongs into all fields.
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>>54857559
>>54857616
>>54857770
>>54857772
>>54857816
>kevin@kevin-h8-1549
ignore him

He pretends to be retarded on purpose.

He used to do that everyday in this thread.

Always posts photos made with a phone instead of posting screenshots.
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>>54856756
>>54857141
Does it compile on your machine?
I get syntax error during building.
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>>54857921
>>He pretends to be retarded on purpose.
Proof or fuck off.
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>>54857950
That means you need to install intltool
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>>54857872
you need to move inside the folder, also i recommend you to read the instructions first
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>>54857989
Thanks. At least someone will defend me
I'm trip coding from now on.

I still need help with installing the drivers. I have them extracted but don't know what command I need to actually install it.
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>>54857999
it's installed
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>>54858034
Thanks.
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>>54858067
>>I'm trip coding from now on.
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>>54858067
what hardware do you have and where do you get that driver from? give more details please
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>>54857999
>>54858072
disregard my retardedness, it was about gnome-common package
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>ls /usr/sbin/[A-Z]*
>with this command we get an entirely different result (only a partial listing of the results is shown). Why is that? It’s a long story, but here’s the short version:
>Back when Unix was first developed, it only knew about ASCII characters, and this feature reflects that fact. In ASCII, the first 32 characters (numbers 0-31) are control codes (things like tabs, backspaces, and carriage returns). The next 32 (32-63) contain printable characters, including most punctuation characters and the numerals zero through nine. The next 32 (numbers 64-95) contain the uppercase letters and a few more punctuation symbols. The final 31 (numbers 96-127) contain the lowercase letters and yet more punctuation symbols. Based on this arrangement, systems using ASCII used a collation order that looked like this:
>ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
>This differs from proper dictionary order, which is like this:
>aAbBcCdDeEfFgGhHiIjJkKlLmMnNoOpPqQrRsStTuUvVwWxXyYzZ
>As the popularity of Unix spread beyond the United States, there grew a need to support characters not found in U.S. English. The ASCII table was expanded to use a full eight bits, adding characters numbers 128-255, which accommodated many more languages. To support this ability, the POSIX standards introduced a concept called a locale, which could be adjusted to select the character set needed for a particular location.
>A character range of [A-Z] when interpreted in dictionary order includes all of the alphabetic characters except the lowercase “a”, hence our results.
WOOOOOOWWW amazing foresight there Bell Labs.
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>>54858034
It failed to install. I moved into the folder.

>>54858135

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c03666767

Those are my hardware specs. Video card however is a GTX 760 from Zotac.
I got the drivers from another GNU thread when I asked for drivers for the LAN of the motherboard.
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>>54857950
>>54858072

You need autoconf-archive. That's the exact package name on Arch, dunno about other distributions.

>>54857738

I don't know, but the person who made it explained it on the page. I don't really need neither of those. Using find every other week is good enough for me.
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>>54856756

mnml as fck
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>>54855046
kek
its in your bios
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I have the NIs running, but was getting error about iptables. So thinking I may be using the wrong ip for nis instructions, I changed to exactly what is in the instructions so ip's are now as followed

instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NIS


/etc/hosts
192.168.1.10 myhost.mydomain.com myhost

/etc/ypserv.conf
192.168. : mydomain.com : * : port

/var/yp/securenets
255.255.0.0 192.168.0.0

so i reboot.
now whenever i try to login as root it hangs then login comes back up.

also ypbind is slow to load when system starts

any advise
do i need to set the root login with nis somehow?
with the ability to not be able to login as root into lightdm
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>>54858135
>>RALINK RT5390
>https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci
These are the drivers, btw.
Hope it helps
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Two problems:
1: Installed TLP on my laptop running Mint 17.3 Cinnamon. Just default settings - no tinkering (yet). Problem is every once in a while the desktop hangs. The cursor is still moving around but no clicks/keystrokes are registered. Saw around the net I was not the only one with that problem but alas couldn't find a solution.
2: Trackpoint (or as it's called here TouchStyk) - anyone knows how to enable (left)clicking when tapping the clitmouse? I know it has that capability in Windows but can't seem to get it working on Mint. 'xinput list' seems to register it as a generic PS2 mouse...

Laptop is HP Elitebook 8560W.

Thanks in advance.
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Hi so I inquired last night but fell asleep.

I can't get videos to play. Webm, youtube, etc

Was suggested to purge flash & post screenshot of youtube.com/html

I did this the youtube html has all the boxes checked but alas still not able to play videos

Any ideas?
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>>54858471

It's turned on in my BIOS, but the light goes off once GRUB starts booting Linux.
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>>54858478

Do you even need that thing?
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>>54858478
>>54858597
Dude i know you need help, but its been like 3 days and no one uses nis. Go to the wiki and go through it again.
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Is there anywhere I can get a toolchain for MIPS Linux 2.6?
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>>54858560
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trackpoint
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>>54851008
>dat free as in freedom ass
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For some reason the systray display an icon for the network manager and says it is not launched (I don't have a wifi card and use ethernet cable so I don't need one)
There's no option on the systray to disable it.
I noticed that if I activate the applet "network manager" it will remove the network manager icon from the systray, but I don't want any icon about the network manager.

question : how do I remove the icon of the network manager from the systray ?

>pic related is when the network manager applet is off, on the left of the steam icon there's the network manager icon of systray
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>>54858814
>pic related is when the network manager applet is one, the network manager icon from the systray is no longer here
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>>54858814
>>54858833

Remove nm-applet from the autostart entry. Look for the place where your desktop environment places them, but also in /etc/xdg/autostart for nm-applet.desktop.
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>>54851008
Hey guys, I've been having this problem for a while. It's not critical, as I can still boot my computer despite the warning, but it is pretty annoying.

I'm on Debian Sid, I installed it using LVM for my partitions.

When I boot, I get this message:
WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.
twice, followed by a few numbers of x/x clean, something like that. A few seconds later, it displays gdm and I can log in to my session with no problem.

How can I fix this? It's always been this way
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Every time i search in qbittorrent, it resizes the window size off screen.Restarting it,its in the spot i set it to be,but any search query throws it off screen
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Why is there a second thread? >>54849753
Isn't one thread enough?
Fgts.
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What are some of the essential packages every Debian user should install?

I only know about apt-listbugs
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so what does g think about centos
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>>54856756
>>54856804
>>54857027
>>54857141
>>54857950
>>54857999
>>54858072
>>54858231
>>54858288
>>54858346
I really need to get gud at typing those spec files.

Here it is anyways, works as intended.
Binary package for F23
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/fsearch/

Will do my best to maintain them, feel free to add the link to the download section of Your project page.
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>>54851638
>opacity kills it. But this is not really the right place for this i think.

It doesn't look too good, compared to the original image.
Well, I can use small image and put it in the bottom right just like Mascot in appchan X.
Maybe I'll experiment more, but for now it should be enough for several days.

>>54856559
Yeah, I thought it'll be useful when the router is out of memory, 128 or 256 MB swap should be optimal as the router rarely use it.
I use 64 GB of micro SD card though, so space isn't really a concern.

minidlna uses plenty of memory for image resizing. But unfortunately when the router's memory is almost empty, it becomes unresponsive. That defeats the purpose of swap memory.
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What are some programs only a retard would install? I want to avoid retard programs.
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Your life
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>>54859046
Everything I'm not using.
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>>54858995

libpng, libx11, alsa-lib.
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>>54859046

Wine.
Bonus retardation points: Foobar through Wine.
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>>54859006

>copr
>logo is literally poop color

WHY
Who thought that was acceptable for just one second? Is that person out of touch with reality?
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>>54859178
Is copr still a ghost town?
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>>54859178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilia
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>>54859178
fedora devs are undercover gnaa
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>>54858597
>>54858612

ok so now that i cant root login into lightdm interface to remove NIS. Have I just bricked arch and need to reinstall?
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>>54859365
boot a usb and go in and fix it
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>>54859197
copr has 4824 repositories
ubuntu ppa has 23838

I'd say more like a cemetery than ghost town
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>>54858995
Apt-listchanges, aptitude, checkinstall
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>sharing
www.privacytools.io - encryption against global mass surveillance
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>>54859046
Skype, flash, wine if it is for games or trivial stuff, fglx
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>>54859420
Because most of the ppa stuff is in the RPM fusion repos.
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How do I set rules on boot for Debian so that screen brightness always starts at a certain percentage, and to start a script on boot that automatically checks for updates?
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Which desktop environments or individual window managers do you guys prefer for a laptop at 1600x900 resolution?

Just looking for suggestions to look into. Been just using GNOME with it.
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Been transcoding videos for fun/learning.
Every time i set it to 60fps in handbrake,it just stays at 24 fps
I've seen other videos orginally in 24fps, but re-encoded to 60fps and the video is smoother, and is 60fps.
What am i doing wrong?
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>>54859497
probably yes.

PPAs also serve 6 releases (all the way back to 12.x LTS)

From what I've noticed COPR really is mostly someone's private repositories where he couldn't be assed to make his own local one
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>>54859588
Xfce
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why doesnt my GTK theme, Icon Theme, Font or DE show up in screenfetch? i thought a WM was seperate from a DE
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>>54859704
to add on this, is there a way to install a new DE besides reinstalling debian?
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>>54859733
apt-get install <de>
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>>54859508
cron-apt for regular updates and for backlight there are few options, udev rule, systemd has a backlight restore service, just a normal run at startup script or 3rd party program like xbacklight.

If you have a laptop with multiple video cards, that might be the issue why isn't it working ootb.
This should have solutions for you
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight
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>>54854233
>what is RAGS
A really shitty top-down dungeon crawler engine that somehow was picked up by a niche porn community. Available at
>how far did you get?
Previously I had gotten it to install, but it wouldn't run and the output is what I showed you in the pastebin.
After that I made a new 32-bit wineprefix and installed dotnet35 using winetricks. At that point it refused to install at all and complained about mscoree.dll, so I downloaded that and put it in.
Now msiexec isn't able to install it, with the output being:
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"VSDCA_VsdLaunchConditions" returned 1603
Which is entirely unhelpful to me. No amount of Googling has revealed what I should do next. Any help would be appreciated.
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>>54859733
Just install it.
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What's the history behind the ArchWiki being the goto resource for everything GNU/Linux, no matter the distro?

I'm just curious as to how its claim to fame came about
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>>54859781
>Available at
Not sure how I failed to paste it. http://www.ragsgame.com/
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>>54859822
They took all of the good stuff on the gentoo wiki and the debian wiki and improved the sitesearch and linking. The rest is SEO.
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>>54859806
but how do i switch between de?
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>>54859852
log out and select it in your display manager.
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>>54859822
Archfags have to put a lot of effort into running and maintaining their systems. It's obvious that user-made tutorials for stuff everyone has to deal with is made.

And since all popular distros switched to systemd already, the differences "under the hood" between them are not significant enough to change the whole process.

Plus it's written in very dumbass-friendly, step-by-step-so-you-won't-fuck-up way unlike Gentoo wiki
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>>54859847
>debian wiki
It's shit actually. Most of the stuff there is outdated
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>>54859867
Not who you're replying to, just curious. If I'm running GNOME and I'd like to try out another DE, it's just a matter of installing it and switching to it in the login screen? And I can uninstall the extra ones anytime without issues? (As far as I know it's kind of tricky to remove the one you installed first, but not so much the others)
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Recently installed arch on a thinkpad t420. I've gotten fairly used to arch from using on other machines, but one quirk that's unique to this laptop that I can't figure out is that sometimes when typing, my clipboard will suddenly get pasted into the text. I haven't been able to pin down what I'm doing that does this - I know the middle mouse button does, this, but I'm definitely not hitting that when typing. Any suggestions?
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>>54859890
Why do these people like to spend lots of effort and time maintaining and running their systems? Isn't that the sort of thing you'd prefer to do the least of so you can be productive?
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>>54859704
Common problem, screenfetch is outdated. Install it from git.
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>>54859911
if you use the same package manager as when you installed it it shouldn't be a problem to remove whole des. Just.make sure not to accidentally essential stuff.
>>54859907
it is hit or miss, some articles there are better than all other wikis while some could hust as well not exist.
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>>54859890
>step-by-step-so-you-won't-fuck-up
as an arch user that RTFM
kek just fucking kek
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>>54859955
Yeah. I had more look googling the proper way to install NVIDIA drivers on Debian instead of looking it up on the wiki

This guide helped while the one on the wiki fucked me over

https://linuxconfig.org/nvidia-geforce-driver-installation-on-debian-jessie-linux-8-64bit
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>>54859937
He's probably just memeing. I'm running Arch and I put in an hour or two when I was installing it and haven't spent any time into maintaining it, besides the occasional pacman -Syu and yaourt -Syua
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>>54859984
*more luck, sorry
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>>54859937
Please, don't listen to anyone who starts their post with "Archfags". You're just getting memed.

And no, Arch doesn't take a lot of maintaining, only regular updates (every one or two days run one command).
With Arch all you need to do is put 1-7 days of creating the perfect system for you once at the start, and then you just install updates forever. No, they don't break anything.
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>>54859984
That guide fucked you over too since you installed proprietary drivers. That is probably also the reason why the guide on the wiki was outdated.
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>>54860016
Playing games with the Nouveau/Gallium drivers is not realistic, familia
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>>54860013
>1-7days
Holy shit, i just got a text file with all programs i like and need and paste it after sudo aptitude install on new installs of debian. and i copy my configs.
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>>54860013
>1-7 DAYS
wew.
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archlinux-bootstrap-2016.05.01-i686.tar.gz
yeah needed more space on win, so deleted the original iso as i was told wouldnt need it. the fuck
downloding...
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>>54858876
Can any kind soul give me a hand?
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>>54860040
>>54860053

Of course the amount of time you spend building up your system depends on many factors.
You might not have a lot requirements or experience, so you just slap a DE on top of Arch and you're done in an hour.

But if you're the kind of person who wants every theme to match, every keybinding to do exactly what it needs to do, every service to run at the perfect time, and all of this without a DE -- it will obviously take longer.
But it's obviously worth it for the person in question.

I always say "1-7 days" because if you want Arch, I assume you're not the first kind of person. Otherwise just use any other non-minimal distro with a DE and be happy.
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>>54860106
There is no mainstream distro that is less minimal than arch if you want to.
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>>54860106
Arch is not minimal, or built for minimalists/customization enthusiasts famicon.

Anybody have the link to that one letter by the Arch dev explaining his confusion at this misconception? I haven't been able to find it
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>>54860106
>you're done in an hour
I'm done in 30' with arch and I have a shitty connection. Otherwise it's only 15'.
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>>54860126
This one? https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
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But what really is the point of installing arch?
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>>54860153
animu
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>>54860149
Yes, that's the one, thank you
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>>54860126
Straight from the Arch Wiki.
Sounds pretty minimal to me.

If you disagree, why don't ya share with us what kind of distro Arch really is.
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>>54860153
i personally don't use or like it but it is fairly stable for a rolling release and the wiki is good.
I profit from the pkgbuilds and the wiki even if i don't use arch.
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>>54860101
>Normally, each LVM command issues a disk scan to find all relevant physical volumes and to read volume group metadata. However, if the metadata daemon is running and enabled, this expensive scan can be skipped.
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/metadatadaemon.html

seems like your system is doing what it's supposed to, scanning the disk for lvm volumes. Since your system works fine I think you're supposed to ignore the warning, it's just a way of informing you that you're not using the (optional) metadata daemon.

if you want a clean boot sequence with no errors you can either tell your kernel to be quiet or you'll have to find a way to suppress that warning. I don't think there is anything wrong with your system though.
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>>54860176
see
>>54860149
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>>54860176
Straight from the Arch main site.
Sounds pretty moe to me.
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>>54860176
>minimal install is ~250mb
>libraries and binaries in one package
that's not minimal. Debian and gentoo are more minimal.
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What's a good window manager?
I've got a VM setup and I don't wanna have to be running a full desktop environment on it, I only need it for command line and text-based stuff. So something I could just have multiple terminal windows or emacs windows open on the same screen would be great.
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>>54860153
Arch is the place where Ubuntu refugees hang around before they switch to better distros.
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>>54860176
>Arch has always been a simple distribution in terms of the developer
perspective, not the user one.
>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare
compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional
whenever possible.
>
It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom /
choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian. There are very few cases
where there are multiple packages offering different configurations of
the same project.
>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users
has no weight here.
>
Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module
available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat
related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional
features enabled across all the packages, etc.
>Arch is the opposite of a distribution with lots of user freedom. Users
will come and go based on whether they like the technical decisions made
by the developers. The popularily of those decisions has no impact on
how things are done, regardless of how vocal users are about it.

And last but not least

>You can claim that the community is based on a set of principles, but it
has nothing to do with technical decisions by the developers. Memes
about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy /
principles / history.

>>54860149
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>>54860230
Screen or tmux, otherwise dwm
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>>54860235
What exactly is wrong with ubuntu?
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How can I change i3's keyboard layout?
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Let's be honest. The only good thing about Arch is the AUR. Proof me wrong. Protip etc.
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>>54860281
Best friend of Microsoft.
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>>54860191
>>54860249

Arch ticks all the boxes for my definition of a minimal distro, so I call it one. If you want other people to think for you, go print that email and pray to it, for all I care.

>>54860220
250 MEGABYTES
HOLY SHIT
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>>54860300
setxkbmap fr
setxkbmap us

But it's not i3.
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>>54860301
The 'godness' about AUR is debateable tbqh

It is certainly great provided you fulfill certain user criteria, but if you're someone that isn't too keen on installing just about anything someone made with little supervision, then you might not like it so much
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>>54860281
Leeching from debian, breaking trust (the amazon thing should have been opt-in), problems between updates, stupid own projects like mir and upstart that perpetuate the "distro fragmentation" meme (helping with dmd/shepard or wayland would have boosted them), uncompatible default DE that is almost impossible to run on other distros, mark shuttleworth...
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>>54860281
The software center.
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>>54860300
if you mean changing the jkl; keys, that's in the config file in ~/.config/i3/
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>>54860281
Being ran by a for-profit corporation (Canonical) that is aggressively pushing for a place in the mobile market, there's always going to be a compromise between "what is best for the user" and "what is best for profit".

They don't care to help out upstream development. They leech from it, and more over, go out of their way to distance themselves from the rest of the Linux community. You get the impression they want to be seen as something separate from the GNU/Linux world.
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>>54860354
>mark shuttleworth
This nigga was is space man. I'm a bit envy.
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so what does g recomment
debian
gentoo
kali
tails
arch
ubuntu
...

as a noob i will need lots of manual, wiki, yt vids and community
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>>54860423
Why do you type like that?
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>>54860423
Manjaro.
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>>54860423
ubuntu if you don't give a miserable shit and want something to actually work

debian if you respect yourself

gentoo if you don't

arch if you want to act like a degenerate

kali and tails, why the fuck do you want that
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>>54860434
not sure what you mean?
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>>54860423
Just go with *buntu (counting Mint here too).
Easy way to learn. Don't listen to the idiots who will flame you for not picking one of the 'cool' distros. We all gotta start somewhere mate.
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>>54860423
Debian, funtoo/gentoo, fedora, arch, slackware and opensuse can all be good if you like them. if i were completely new again i would pick up the debian administrators handbook and do everything in there before even considering switching again.
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>>54860423
Arch Linux. The wiki will turn you into a wizard.
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>>54860423
Mint and Ubuntu are good places to start. Their tutorials are pretty much inter-compatible too since the first is based on the latter.

When you feel more comfortable, switch to Debian, which is the grandpapa to those two. But don't worry about that for now.
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Yooooo, I'm having issues installing grub on /dev/sdb. I keep on getting "cannot find canonical path to /dev/sdb2" every time I try a grub install or update grub. Any ideas?
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>>54860489
Also into a annoying opensource fag.
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>>54860489
By that logic wikipedia makes me a god.
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What distro can I run on a flash drive that keeps me the most anonymous and private and is easy to set up since I've never used linux?
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Stoopid question, but how do I get my window from screen A to screen B on awesomewm?
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>>54860520
>implying it won't
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>>54860531
tails is made for that.
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>>54860531
Tails. It's built to be ran from a USB and to be easy to use.
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>>54860531
What do you mean by anonymous and private? You can do that with ANY Linux distribution. And you can run most of them from USB.
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>>54860540
man awesome
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>>54860540
are you in floating or tiling mode?
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>>54860447
manjaro

>>54860447
debian

>>54860468
ubuntu

>>54860478
debian

>>54860489
arch
>Arch Linux. The wiki will turn you into a wizard

>>54860499
mint

k and do like the wizard part m8 and know a little of arch so far.
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>>54860509
use UUID
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This may belong in the stupid questions thread, but I'll try my luck here anyway.

Let's say I run some GNU/Linux distro at home, and I wish to share some generic files (say, some audio or pictures) on a flash drive to someone using a Windows machine. But that guy's machine is infected with malware/viruses. Would it be capable of infecting the UBS with this Windows malware even though you're just copying/pasting files FROM the USB to the infected machine? And would then a third person running Windows with a clean machine be at risk from that USB?

Thanks for your time
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>>54860568
tiling bby.
I can drag it if it's floating, but that a shit
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>>54860423
openSUSE. Best desktop distribution so far. Not so easy as for you to learn nothing, not so difficult that you won't be able to with with it.
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What's the difference between openSUSE LEAP and TUMBLEWEED?

I used tumbleweed for a month and lvoed it, but I broke it eventually because I used zypper dup.

Is Leap more stable and wont break as easily or what?

Also, I been considering using Feodra instead.

What do you think senpai?
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>>54860606
Totally possible. you can use clam to protect your windows using friends.
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>>54860606
The malware wouldn't be able to run on your system, but well, for this situations there is "clamav" a GNU/Linux anti-virus for scanning for Windows malware.
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>>54860596
I am, I'm running 'grub-install --force' which should install using blocklists.
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>>54860619
I've never met anyone that actually uses openSUSE, I just know of the guy that makes those "Linux Sucks" talks

How is it compared to other distros, like Debian? What are the key differences as to why you like it?

Take this as an opportunity to evangelize for it, because I really don't know anyone that uses it
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>>54860606
a) Yes. But... usually windows programs won't be able to run under linux.
b) Yes. Depends on what sort of malware/virus/crap.
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>>54860617
mod+o
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>>54860664
based
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http://ugetdm.com/

Anyone tried this thing? Meme or nice?
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>>54860643
http://www.linuxveda.com/2014/06/17/opensuse-13-1-vs-ubuntu-13-10-friendly-match-2/

That pretty much explains my entire experience. I use gentoo for with related stuff, but all my desktops are openSUSE.
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>>54860681
I'll give it a go. Seems cool
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Hey guys,

I have been using Mint 17.2 Cinnamon for a while (several months) as my first Linux distro. It's nice and all, but I would like to try something new that is still new user friendly (so no Arch or Gentoo). I'd like to shift over and try an rpm-based distro. This pretty much means either openSUSE or Fedora, although I've heard very good things about the most recent release of Mageia (5?).

Does anyone have any experience with Mageia? Has it come far enough along to be at least similar to Fedora and openSUSE in terms of usability?
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>>54860681
>>54860715
Does it work with file hosts? Like Jdownloader?
Or is it just a manager that has no real purpose?
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>>54860712
Nice. Do you use Tumbleweed on your desktops or the stable releases?
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>>54860712
>>54860406
>>54860281
>There is an argument that Canonical contributes by bringing more users to Linux. That’s not the case as Canonical/Ubuntu doesn’t even use the word Linux anywhere in the marketing material of even on Ubuntu.com. So they are definitely not contributing to the popularity of ‘Linux’, all they are doing is the popularity of Ubuntu.

This is exactly what I meant. It just rubs me the wrong way.
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>>54860742

>considering using a niche distribution
>switching distributions for no good reason
>thinking it will somehow magically be better

These types of posts are the 2nd worst. Only those retards who argue about Linux/GNU naming or RMS shit are even more beyond help.
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>>54860836
Come on, don't be mean. Everyone has to go through the stages. It's part of growing up.
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>>54860771
For file hosts I highly recommend plowshare. Made entirely in bash. Full captchas with imagemagick and download with curl. Simply ebin.
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You woun't believe it, but it actually exists:
https://projects.gnome.org/gwget/
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>>54860881
I use it to upload but having 100-1000 at a time regularly,yeah not happening
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>>54860836
Not very friendly tee bee aytch

It's okay, one day your dick will get wet and you'll stop taking out your feelings of worthlessness on the Internet by acting like a tough guy on 4chan
>>
>>54860742
>>54860858
If you want to accelerate your growing pains, just go and try Debian. It's solid, a bit less hand-holdy than Mint or Ubuntu, but after the small initial hurdle you'll be good to go for life

If you didn't mind the out-of-date-ness of Mint, stay in Debian Stable. If you want more up to date things, upgrade it to Debian Testing or Debian Unstable after installation.
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>>54860813
branding.
ubuntu = linux
coke = soda
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>>54860712
There's a lot of FUD in that article.

>In case of Ubuntu, Unity is Canonical’s baby and none of it’s features are available for other Ubuntu-based distros. openSUSE treats each DE as the first class citizen and here you can install different DEs on the same system without breaking it. Under Ubuntu Unity and Gnome don’t work very well together.
That's ignoring the multitude of Ubuntu Flavors available. All of which are easily available via a simple command like "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"

>There is very little customization for Ubuntu. At most you can change the wallpaper or the size of Launcher.
Lets pretend that unity-tweak-tool and GTK themes do not exist.

>FSF calls Ubuntu a spyware ever since they introduced a feature in Ubuntu’s Dash where all the keywords entered by a user a sent to Canonical servers where it uses them to display ads from 3rd party to users.
Amazon Search Lens is gone in 16.04.
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>>54860937
>image.jpg
Just leave.
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>>54860952
I know. I don't like it
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>>54860960
>not renaming all of your pictures to image.jpg and placing them in different folders specifically to piss off /g/
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>>54860813
What Canonical actually does is breeding "Since we have bash and linux appz on Windows 10, is there any reason left for using Linux?" people.
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>>54860906
>https://projects.gnome.org/gwget/
bookmarked
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>>54860960
Oh boohoo
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