Why are you not using most best DE?
Don't need almost any of the stuff that comes with it and I prefer a tiling WM.
>>54834611
>look mom I installed xfeces terminal in gnome
>>54834611
I'm more of a KDE man myself
>>54834611
>>54834611
>gnome
>best DE
>>54834611
>I'm more of a KDE man myself
>>54834611
>there's literally no other DE that's as restrictive as GNOME
>the devs literally removed features
>""""best"""" DE
>>54834611
It's slow and has retarded dependencies, which are turning it into giant pile of shit.
>>54836077
>``restrictive''
>can literally monkey patch the shell to do what you like
git gud. Back in my day (GNOME 1.x) you could extend GNOME's window manager (Sawfish) using Lisp. When Metacity came about this feature was taken away! gnome-shell brought it back, yet GNOME 3.x is restrictive and GNOME 2.x was the best thing ever?
Nope!
>>54834611
Because I am using the most best WM
>>54836711
Just look at the settings menu and compare it with KDE. It's a joke (and I don't even use KDE). Even with GNOME Tweak Tool installed it's lacking features.
>>54836770
Untrue. Since GNOME 2.x when Sun became involved in the project, GNOME is one of the few free software projects to realise more options =! a better user experience. KDE exposes silly things like px properties to users, and the settings are a complete mess.
Sun gave GNOME a kick up the arse in regards to sane UX and that legacy is still thankfully ingrained in the project today. I only jest about Sawfish, it was terrible.
http://ometer.com/preferences.html
>>54836871
>more options =! a better user experience
Have fun with your mouse acceleration
I prefer Plasma 5 for now.
>>54834764
old habits.. They die hard
>>54836900
Like most people, mouse acceleration doesn't factor into my usage of computers. Like it is explained in the link I provided, every switch and knob has a cost that you must weigh against the benefits to users. Maybe as gaming becomes more prevalent there will be a strong need (I believe it's a popular setting with FPS players).
In any case, mouse acceleration is controlled by lipinput, not GNOME. Just because GNOME doesn't expose it, doesn't mean that those who want to tinker with it can't.
>>54836988
howd you get your firefox looking like that? Also what's your breeze theme? Is it a custom one? I can't find a good dark theme desu I settled with ice lilac because it's good looking and I can't be assed to make it myself.
>>54837067
desu so desu so
>>54837067
Just custom colors. Firefox is some guy's CSS I modified for my own needs.
>>54837051
>mouse acceleration doesn't factor into my usage of computers
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone would prefer disabled mouse acceleration
>Just because GNOME doesn't expose it, doesn't mean that those who want to tinker with it can't.
But why wouldn't GNOME expose it? Aren't they trying to create a user friendly experience?
>having a lot of options is a bad thing
I don't see how this could ever be a bad thing. They could at least add a "show advanced options" button.
>>54837103
where can I find the CSS?
>>54837114
http://twily.info/s/firefox/stylish/firefox-css
>>54837133
sps
>>54836754
what firefox theme is it?
>>54837133
I suck at CSS could you upload yours?
>>54837133
Do you use vimium or smth?
>>54837216
No.
>>54837207
All you have to do is look for the element you want to modify, then see if your modifications worked for the desired result. Somebody already did the hard part.
>>54836900
using a mouse..
>>54837112
>I'm pretty sure that almost everyone would prefer disabled mouse acceleration
I'm more sure most computer users wouldn't know what you're referring to of you asked them. What about focus follows mouse? I'd wager that is a more desired setting, especially among old school Linux users. Where do you draw the line for these type of settings?
User friendly means saying "no" much more than saying "yes". Like I've said, exposing options has a cost. If only a small portion of users are likely to benefit from a setting, you should consider not supporting it.
>"show advanced options" button
There's already an app for that: gnome-tweak-tool. Once a setting is in gnome-control-centre, I think the burden for supporting that setting and testing in on each release is much higher for GNOME. More settings means a bigger test matrix, more code to support and more possibilities for bugs. And if you add a really niche setting it won't get tested enough and that code path will inevitably bitrot.
>>54837247
there's no url bar is that normal?
>>54836871
Still shit
and this is only one tab
>>54837441
Forgot picture
>>54834611
Because I'm using Xfce with a dock for some reason.
>>54837441
>>54837453
If you think that is good UX, you need to familiarise yourself with real-world disability studies and trends.
What is "pressure dependent motion"? Is there any explanation for users? What does "units" mean? You have tabs within tabs... it's a mess. More does not equal better.
>>54837470
It's all right pal I was using MATE with Docky (or whatever it's called) for ages. Good stuff.
>>54837548
Usability* not disability
>>54837327
There's an option, read the comments in the CSS.
>>54837314
>I'm more sure most computer users wouldn't know what you're referring to of you asked them.
So what? Just because a lot of people don't know what an option does doesn't mean that you should remove that option.
>There's already an app for that: gnome-tweak-tool.
Try to disable mouse acceleration with GNOME Tweak Tool. You can't. It's just fucking mind-boggling that something as simple as an option for mouse acceleration isn't available. It's not like this is an advanced setting, this is one of the most basic options that exist.
>>54837287
Nice meme
>>54837548
>implying GNOME's explanation for "natural scrolling" makes sense
also
having more options literally means a better user experience
>>54834611
Because anyone who uses XFCE has to ride the most best short bus.
>>54837148
Its iridium browser, based on chromium, its a libre version that is available on multiple platforms.
I am on Arch linux, and it's available in the AUR
But OP, herbstluftwm is the best
I like budgie better.
>>54836988
>eyecancer font rendering
>babye's first arch install
>>54837996
It's the way I set it up and prefer it. Go suck eggs.
>>54837977
Absolutely disguisting.
>>54837795
>Just because a lot of people don't know what an option does doesn't mean that you should remove that option.
Yes it does. At the very least you should consider it. You have finite developer and testing time, you have to maximise your use of it to benefit the largest amount of users possible. Supporting niche settings does not work towards this goal.
>You can't
Features don't exist until someone spends time developing them. lipinput has only supported disabling acceleration from the end of last year, try filing a bug report if there isn't one already.
>>54837802
At the very least GNOME attempts to explain a feature that some people won't understand. What would you suggest instead?
More features _does not_ make a better user experience. People don't stray from defaults regularly, and copious amounts of options have been demonstrated to have a negative effect on usability. This is not even considering the increased amount of bugs you get when there's more code to support and more states to test.
>>54836988
>dat clock
>>54834611
Because I'm using Fluxbox, and have used it to build exactly the desktop that I want/need, without a bunch of useless bloat.
>>54838175
>Supporting niche settings does not work towards this goal.
>mouse acceleration
>niche settings
Top kek, senpai.
>you have to maximise your use of it to benefit the largest amount of users possible
How the hell does not having that option benefit anyone?
>Features don't exist until someone spends time developing them.
They literally removed that feature
Besides this is a very basic option. Literally every DE I've ever used had this setting.
>>54834611
I am
>>54836988
is there a way to have FF tabs in the title bar like on chromium?
>>54838228
Problem? I like to be able to see that shit across the room.
>>54838621
Lol no.
>>54838621
HTitle
Unless you have Gnome 3, you will need devilspie to get it to work
