When did you grow out of your angsty teen phase, realizing web content isn't free, and proceeded to uninstall all your ad blocking software? I was 15.
ads are a lazy uninspired way to make money, and they should be ilegal
>>54825753
Fuck off, I installed adblock on all my relatives computers and they stopped calling me about viruses.
Ads are literally an attack vector even if you don't click on the giant green download button ads.
>>54825763
Lol this.
If they want my money, build in a donate button. but... not like wikipedia does.
>please make your experience while browsing the internet worse because i want to make money
no thanks
>>54825753
funny how you don't remember how the internet was before all the post-monetization cancer
adblocker are retaking the internet.
>nsabook
Goodbye and good riddance.
The threat has been answered long ago: sponsored content. The blatantly illegal kind, too, where it's straight up product advertisement in the context of a "report" without any indication where the money came from. You can't adblock shit like that.
The internet died a long time ago.
>>54825753
Nobody on their cellphones use adblockers.
This is a lie.
>>54826391
>mfw i saw some idiot in the bus today who was playing games on his phone and the ads took like 1/3 of the screen
i was about tell him to look up adaway and then i thought "yeah no...."
rebbit joined the dark side as well
https://reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/4ll9tc/it_looks_like_reddit_wants_to_become_a_profitable/
>>54826172
It was actually pretty sweet when ads were just gifs. Then pop up ads became a thing. Now we have 200MB of ads which begin playing as soon as you load a page which is real awesome when you have other people in the house and it's 2AM. I don't mind 4chan ads because they're small and not obnoxious, but as a rule I block them everywhere. These people brought it on themselves.
>>54826538
We must preserve the idiots if we noble few are to retain our privileges!
>>54825763
this
>>54825803
this /g/ent knows his shit
>>54825753
Want me to drop my adblocker? Get rid of autoplay flash bullshit, flashing or moving ads, banner ads that try to look like actual content, pop up ads, and find a way to prevent ads from carrying malware. Stick to simple banner ads or get the fuck out of my face.
>>54825753
>realizing web content isn't free
They should charge for it like any other professional unless it is a sponsored article.
There are 3 types of articles, the ones that related to a field of interest or profession and are worth the money, the ones that relate to entertainment, and advertisement.
A huge problem with the media is that every faggot works practically 4free thinking ad revenue will sustain them, and the equally retarded faggots with dyed hair who think everything should be free.
>>54825854
>If they want my money, build in a donate button. but... not like wikipedia does.
Kill yourself.
>>54826388
>You can't adblock shit like that.
You can with this thing called reading comprehension.
>I am entitled to everything and fuck thinking on my own
Shouldn't you be on /v/?
We need a smartphone board so retards like you can fuck off there.
>>54825753
>realizing web content isn't free, and proceeded to uninstall all your ad blocking software?
adblockers are a sign of a malware free computer, not immaturity you idiot.
>>54826618
Why does shittit gets so much free advertisement here? This is no wonderland but that place is pure garbage.
>>54825753
Why do web content creators expect to make money? They should be honored just by the fact that people give a shit about what they are writing. Fucking fat bastards learned a little html and css and expect ads to bring in the benjamins. Fuck you, if your site is down, there are literally dozens of similar sites that will gladly take your place.
>>54828813
>pic
Yes PLEASE!
>>54825753
meh, I suppose next you'll be telling me it's wrong to inspect element and get the good image from clickbait shit is wrong too
>>54825753
>I was 15.
You still are 15.
> Consumers don't want to watch ads
> Instead of finding other ways to make money companies take it to bitch and moan about ad blockers
>>54825753
>web content isn't free
I run a website. I don't have any ads.
It costs basically nothing to host web content. What really pisses me off is static-pages and blogs covered in ads. They're doing shit that AWS would host for fucking free, yet are demanding I risk being part of a JS botnet so they can make some money.
> Expecting me to watch ads on my fucking computer
I hate ads so much I close my eyes while on the highway so I avoid looking at billboards.
Fuck ads.
>>54825753
So I should eat shit because corporations aint getting top bucks? Wew.
>>54825753
You can just tell adblocker to be disabled on certain sites if you really care that much...
>>54825753
Let me ask you a question: Do consumers have an obligation to watch ads?
If you think they don't use adblocker, because ads are a waste of your time. If you do, don't use adblocker. Most people aren't going to think they should be forced to watch ads, so don't disparage them for thinking so.
>>54825753
I'm 29 and have been blocking ads since 2003
>>54825753
>implicit contract
kek I agreed to nothing with standing in court
>36 percent of asia pacific uses ad blocking on mobile
>aka pajets
>>54825803
This.
Until ads no longer come with the risk of driveby malware infections, I'll keep blocking them. I don't give a fuck about their lost revenue when "paying" for their clickbait means that I have to leave my network open to kiddyscript.lulz.xyz.js and other assorted shit.
Lets not forget that advertising is inherently adversarial. The entire goal of an advertiser is to distract you from what you want to be doing and put your eyeballs somewhere else, so as to persuade or trick you in to paying money for something you otherwise would not.
now why would I want to allow that?
>>54825753
But ads are a pull service so I can choose not to download them specifically, how is it my fault if the corps lose money because i don't view something they're giving me a choice not to view?
>>54825753
Lol nice try ad malware shill
>>54829178
I made this mistake with eBay, mostly because I was afraid it would FUBAR my listing process somehow, and got Teslacrypted for it. Two Teslacrypts running at once, double encrypting my data, even. Slipped right past my AV like a rat in the night.
>>54828422
Unless you run a blocking browser iOS is ad cancer. Hijack redirects, ads that expand and wreck the layout of sites. Some sites you can't even visit due to ads that make you unable to scroll the page.
Zero violins played for the sites with these ads.
Can't someone just make an infographic with all the reasons to block ads so we don't have to circlejerk about this all the time?
>>54825753
I will stop using adblockers when the internet will fix their ads. I'm tired of fake ads, animated ads that slow the browser, ads that cover a huge part of the page, ads that are ridden with viruses and use exploits, ads that fucking track you and your cookies just to give you more relevant content. Fucking shitbook is tracking everyone who doesn't uses facebook with those like and comments plugin on some sites.
You can make the same argument that antiviruses cost the cryptoware industry millions
These threads are as useless as OP's dick and they should be banned.
>>54826391
I'm literally posting this message from Firefox Mobile with uBlock Origin installed.
Try browsing porn sites without adblocker. I dare you.
>decide to make a blog/news site nobody asked for
>once you get enough visitors, write nothing but opinion pieces that shill out for whatever brand is willing to pay you
>somehow think that the world owes you money in exchange for creating no value (and in fact, actively making the web a shittier place)
Guess what, I will control what code executes on my own machine and what network connections my router makes, no matter how butthurt you people get. And this isn't even considering the malware aspect, the visual improvement of websites with ads removed, the time wasted on ads for videos/streams, etc.
Even if there was no benefit to blocking ads, I would literally STILL block ads JUST to help put clickbait sites out of business. If you can't make money without ads then you aren't offering anything of value, so either go get another job or create a website simply as a non-profit hobby if you care enough about something.
>>54825753
So I assume you just turned 16?
I'd rather pay for google and youtube than have them spy and drop ads on me.
They can't become paid services soon enough.
The same goes for MS
>click on the page randomly because of ocd
>popup assaults me analy
I think I'll keep my adblock on, thanks though.
>>54831962
that's not what they're going to do.
you're going to pay for them and then they'll still spy on you. They'll drop advertising for a while to get people to pay up, and then once most of them are doing so, they're bring back ads. Probably in a difficult-to-block form. Youtube, say, would use it's own proprietary JS player and encoding that stops the video partway through and serves an ad. There are also plenty of non-advertising businesses eager to buy user data. Political campaigns come to mind first.
You might remember how when cable TV was new in the 70s, it was ad-free, because you were paying for it. Look at it now.
>see articles like this
>decide to turn off flashblock, noscript, and adblock for one day
>"how bad could it be"
>internet becomes unusable
>pop up, redirects, 300 MB videos trying to load, huge overlays on screen that won't go away
>not even on porn sites
>never again
>>54825753
>>Rise of Ad-Blocking Software Threatens Online Revenues
>Malicious and obnoxious ads makes more people interested in ad-blocking software
>>54831734
Actually, porn and the Internet is a pretty interesting case. Pornography is, like, the most profitable entertainment branch and, basically, all of it is available for free on the Internet.
How are they doing it?
>>54832292
Most porn sites have premium account options for HD videos or something.
>>54825753
Ads are no different than spam. Online services could make plenty of money sending you spam advertisements every time you visit their website, but you wouldn't want them to do that, would you? If they did, and you blocked them, how would it be different than blocking ads on their website?
Some people have a strange disconnect where they think that service providers can do anything and you just have to accept it. Personally, I view ads as a security risk. Almost nobody vets their advertisements, and even those that do have no idea how to spot a malicious ad. It only takes one zero-day for someone to take over your PC from a rogue ad.
>>54825753
Thanks for reminding me to install ublock on my phone. I really hate ads on mobile. They make the browsing experience almost unbearable sometimes, especially pop-ups and huge images in between text I'm trying to read on my tiny screen.
>>54825753
Never
I grew into my angsty adult phase and realized that "free" web content paid by ads is shit because there is no incentive to produce quality - only clickbait.
You get what you pay for. The person doing the paying gets what they paid for. With ads, you don't pay for anything, but the ad company pays for something. What are you getting? Shitty clickbait.
Kill ad funded content
If you're not willing to run a server using pocket change from a real job or put up a paywall you shouldn't have a website. You have nothing worth putting on the internet.
>>54825753
You'll never convince us to disable our adblockers ever again. EVER. So don't even bother
>tfw 4chan no longer needs ads and can survive on passbux until the end of time
>>54825753
I selectively unblock ads on sites that don't use excruciatingly annoying ones.
If it's a text ad, unblocked.
If it's a picture or even gif ad, unblocked.
If there's so many it slows down my computer, blocked.
If it contains audio, blocked.
If it blocks my videos, blocked. (I would unblock SOME YouTube ads if AdBlock had a way to unblock only text ads. I don't care about overlay ads, but I will NOT sit through preroll ads or things that cut my videos. On my channel, I only activate overlay ads and cards. I don't use the skippable/non-skippable ones)
But, like sites I've unblocked:
4chan
listentoyoutube
bing
wired.com
some wallpaper site
>>54825753
>I was 15.
You have to be at least 18 to browse this site.
>>54825753
>Many of the world's largest Internet companies, like Google and Facebook, rely heavily on advertising to finance their online empires.
Guess who doesn't block people using adblockers? Google and Facebook. Because companies pay them up front to advertise for them. They don't make money off clicks, they use that model to pay people who sign up to their advertising services.
>>54830584
This post was beautifully written.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-percentage-of-Internet-users-that-employ-AdBlock-Plus-or-similar-ad-blocking-plugins
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/08/21/use-of-ad-blocking-is-on-the-rise/#4d4c0ed496bd
It's apparently not as high as I thought.
>>54825753
>Case 1. The market is based on the actual following of links.
Well, I personally have a zero percent chance of clicking any ad. So, if I accidentally click on an ad, there has been a mistake. Someone earned money that they didn't deserved based on a technicality. I should be allowed to block ads, because that will allow me to avoid misclicking ads, and therefore the system will be more just on a whole if I do. It is ethically better that I block all ads.
>Case 2: The market is based on the potential to click on ads: they just want the opportunity to present you with the ad in hopes that you will click on it.
I have a zero percent chance of clicking on any ad, so once again, any money gained by showing me said ads was earned on the unfounded and false the pretense that there was some likelihood I would click on the ads. Someone is unjustly charging someone else based on an incorrect assumption about me. It is ethically better that I block all ads.
What's going to be their next scam, convincing me that it's my civic duty to click on the ads? And how about the new wave of civic duties after that, to insert my credit card number? To sign on the dotted line?
>>54832399
>Some people have a strange disconnect where they think that service providers can do anything and you just have to accept it.
They've been trained to be slaves.
Web is a pull medium, not a push medium. I merely decline to request ads.
>>54825753
>realizing web content isn't free
Then why am I not being charged for it? If you have something worth selling you put a price on it and people buy it.
The reason "web content" creators wont do this is because their created content is 90% shit nobody with a fully developed frontal lobe would pay for and often they steal/copy it from elsewhere.
Also serving ads, collecting data without permission and serving malware should be a criminal offence.
>>54831733
Nobody on their cellphones use Firefox Mobile.
This is a lie.
>>54825753
I don't like being advertised to. I've never been influenced by an online ad so I block them because I find them annoying and they would be useless to me anyway. I do not care at all if other parties potentially miss out on adbux. Plus, you know, the major security reasons.
>>54825753
>the implicit contract
nigger, I didnt agree to any of this.
You wanted to make a website, you pay the bills for it.
Dont like it, suck my balls. The internet wasn't made to be your money machine.
>>54832399
>It only takes one zero-day for someone to take over your PC from a rogue ad.
that applies to anything
If the website had anything worth paying for they would use a subscription model to generate income.
Look at ad fueled tv, they can't make you watch the ads, but they can make the channel subscription only.
>>54832562
As a Web Dev, I have some info for you, m8.
>Well, I personally have a zero percent chance of clicking any ad
Advertising hosts make money even if you VIEW the ad (or rather, it displays in the page. You don't gotta click shit)
>Someone earned money that they didn't deserved based on a technicality
It's not whether the host actually gets the advertiser more customers. Advertisers KNOW that not all clicks result in customers. The host certainly DID earn the revenue, because they did what they applied to do: HOST an ad
>I should be allowed to block ads
I agree with this, IF the ads actually cause you a problem. There's no reason to block innocuous ads that don't slow down the site, don't automatically play videos/audio, and don't block content.
Something off to the side, or a banner you can quickly scroll past, even in-stream ads that pop up but you have no obligation to click, should NOT bother you.
>that will allow me to avoid misclicking ads, and therefore the system will be more just on a whole if I do
This is desperate justification. The advertisers, as I said, already KNOW that some people won't become customers. Advertising is a gamble, but it's a gamble worth taking in many areas.
>It is ethically better that I block all ads.
No, not really. If the site in question doesn't offer dangerous or overly intrusive ads, you're damaging the host's income for a service they are providing.
On the other hand, if the site is clickbait, hosts dangerous ads, or causes a loss in content quality by blocking/interrupting your browsing experience, then I fully understand.
On the next site I'll be launching, I will avoid any video/audio ads at all costs (even though they pay higher), because I don't want to disrupt my users.
>Someone is unjustly charging someone else based on an incorrect assumption
This, also, is false. So, you're telling me, companies that rent billboard space on the highway should only have to pay when they succeed, even with limited space?
>>54832610
If you're the same guy who posts this comment or variations thereof in every adblocking thread that appears on /g/, I would like to thank you for your vigilant and undying commitment.
>>54832684
>people have been changing the channel during ads for decades
>free tv still exists
Myth busted.
>>54832637
>The internet wasn't made to be your money machine.
No, but the World Wide Web was.
The Web was designed, in large part, to accommodate business online.
Don't like it, go use some private network, VPN, or Dark Net
>>54832700
I'm not, I just find the phrase fitting.
>>54832702
Now they all air ads at the same time so changing channels is useless. God I hate TV.
>>54832699
Sounds to me like you should be getting a better contract with your advertiser so that you get paid a negotiated amount monthly based on your visitor rate for hosting their ads rather than letting them sell you short.
That's what every other medium does. Seeing they know that every view doesn't result in a click it shouldn't matter to them whether the ad is displayed or not. If anything, paying your for ads that aren't click loses them money over paying you the same for ads that aren't displayed because they have to pay the bandwidth cost in serving the ad.
>>54832715
It was made to share information. Businesses were welcome on it to do business.. as in sell or buy shit.
What businesses did was sell and buy customers, and make every web page look like time square threw up on the internet.
If the ads weren't so cancerous i wouldn't need adblock
>>54832649
And any responsible person would safeguard their self to prevent being taken advantage of.
>>54832746
>>54832715
This is disgusting. everything is so cluttered and nasty, life is all about making money.
This is a cold dead world.
work, sleep, die.
I have adblock disabled on 4chan and sukebei because the ads are non-intrusive and honestly quite funny sometimes.
>>54832765
>walk down the street without a condom on
>get aids from a billboard
Fuck.
>>54832765
>>54832746 (You)
>>54832715
It could have looked nice and clean like this.
This is a place where you can enjoy your life.
New york once looked sorta acceptable, then companies and ads ruined it, just like they are trying to do with the internet.
These companies that are bitching about not being able to ruin the internet, are the same ones that ruined new york, and would ruin pic related just to turn a quick profit.
>>54829750
This!
>>54825753
There is no such thing as "ad blocking". The web is a pull medium, not a
push medium. I merely decline to request ads.
>>54832715
>>54832788
So which one do you want?
>>54825753
I don't and probably will never, and adblock is basically and antivirus this days.
But I enable adsense's, also I white-list pages that I visit a lot that I trust, because they might actually have ads I want to see. But you can't browse the modern internet without one, I mean a chrome extension can basically have access to all the files of your computer, just think about that.
>>54832807
>they might actually have ads I want to see.
Why would you want to see an ad? You got shekels you want to get rid of?
>>54832746
>What businesses did was sell and buy customers, and make every web page look like time square threw up on the internet.
This is only true for some websites. Not every website has like 10K ads/page
>Businesses were welcome on it to do business.. as in sell or buy shit.
Yes, and selling/buying ad space is a legitimate use of it.
>>54832738
>Sounds to me like you should be getting a better contract with your advertiser so that you get paid a negotiated amount monthly based on your visitor rate for hosting their ads rather than letting them sell you short.
I'm pretty sure no one would be selling me short if they only pay for when their ads pop up. Although, I am considering a base fee that covers up to a certain amount for when I institute a secondary system for private advertisers.
>If anything, paying your for ads that aren't click loses them money over paying you the same for ads that aren't displayed because they have to pay the bandwidth cost in serving the ad.
That's a valid point. I would lose money hosting the ads if they're not displayed, but I still have to pay the bandwidth.
After the site grow enough to implement private advertising, as opposed to ad pools, I would consider a base-fee, as I explained.
The content on the net is not worth going through the trouble of bypassing thousands of ads. If anything adblock made the internet a better place because I actually bother to search through the net for somewhat decent content because of no ads. If ads come back again then I will just threat the internet like I used to pre adblock and go back to watching my weekly/monthly AVGN video and call it a day.
>>54832699
>Advertising is a gamble
opinion discarted shitposter, the only reason ads exist is because they work
>>54832765
its called capitalism lol
Oh no
what will I ever do once people start publishing content out of passion rather than a Jewish desire to profit from regurgitated swill
>>54832824
>Not every website has like 10K ads/page
but in a typical day, I dont want to have seen 10k ads.
>>54832837
>its called capitalism lol
the word I use is disgusting, but same thing I guess.
>>54832765
It's not even about the money, for me. I need cash to invest in research. If my sites, apps, and software don't wind up making me a viable pool of money, I can't spend most of it on research.
You could even call what I'm planning to do a "non-profit", but... I'll still profit a /bit/.
>>54832788
>These companies that are bitching about not being able to ruin the internet, are the same ones that ruined New York, and would ruin pic related just to turn a quick profit
New York was always a shithole, even the areas without advertising. I know; I live in New York; it's shit everywhere, no matter where you go.
Better than NJ, though, I'll give it that.
Been to Yonkers for several years. Kinda like it when I was down there.
>would ruin pic related
It's already ruined.
Where's the sky bridges in the mountains and the balance between nature and machine? It's WAY too wide open; I'd be extremely anxious and uncomfortable to walk outside the town there.
>>54832805
>So which one do you want?
As I previously stated, New York is and always was: SHIT.
The comparison is invalid.
The town listed previously has much nicer architecture.
How about my
>pic related
Admittedly, there are areas in Tokyo as well that look like shit because too many ads. But it's BALANCE that matters.
This area balances medium-high ad-space with clean architecture and well-placed trees lining part of the street.
I can find other cities in other countries, too, if you like.
New York, however, is just shit.
>>54829123
t. RacerX
>>54832699
As a fellow web dev if your add comes from a 3rd party host it's getting blocked. No questions asked.
Either serve vetted ads from the same domain you're using, use a subscription system, or stop complaining. If you don't feel comfortable hosting the add under your own domain then why are you even showing it in the first place?
if someone can't survive without ad revenue, their content probably is sub-par and essentially click-bait, eg. 90% of """"""tech news""""""
>>54832906
your keyboard is broken, it keeps repeating quotation marks
>>54825753
Good fucking riddance. Ads have already killed TV and radio, and done too much harm on the web. If you had to calculate the difference between the global cost of servicing ads on the Internet and the benefits on consumption, I'm pretty sure the balance is negative.
>>54832906
so what would they survive on? you understand 4chan ran entirely on ads for the first decade or so, right?
People who use adblockers are just people who wouldn't click on advertisements, anyway. This is just desperate shilling by web marketers whose advertising views figures are now much closer to reality.
>>54832699
Right, but you're missing the point here.
See, the ad companies wouldn't bother to post ads if they knew that the ads didn't generate additional revenue for them. Likewise, the ad companies *shouldn't* want to send ads to, and therefore pay for, ads displayed to people who will not use their product. For instance, you don't want to send dog food ads to a cat person. The problem is, it can be very difficult to track down whether you're doing things right through the ads because, though you're paying for an *actual* slot on a website's ad page, when it comes to reaching your end goal you're paying for the *potential* of increasing your sales. See how that works? That potential converts to some amount of the actual, but it's extremely hard to dissect the causation behind the increase of sales, so the tighter the gap between actual and potential is closed, the easier it is to optimize. You basically don't want me as a variable in your equation because I'm pure noise.
I am helping the ad companies by tuning the metrics in their favor. Since I never click on ads intentionally, people don't deserve to make money off of the mere chance that I will click the ads, because that chance is zero.
Conversely, the websites can at some point charge more for hosting ads if they can prove that people are more likely to click on ads when they are shown, or that the total number of purchases don't go down by a significant margin due to ad blocking. These are the metrics that web advertisers care about. Web advertisers do *not* care about number of ads shown on the site, so neither should you, as a web developer. As you can see, much work needs to be done to macroscopically study the phenomenon of ad blocking and largely that burden is being passed to you, the web developer, both professionally and ethically. Microscopically, I'm helping reduce the gap between potentiality and actuality, therefore making the transaction a little more transparent for everyone.
>>54832904
When I wind up having enough users, I will be opening an ad system that's run in-house.
But, this'll be my first large-scale project (and one that I'm doing under my own name), and I'll need a way to fund the hosting costs until advertisers are interested enough in the site.
Then, I'll be doing an in-house system as the default.
>>54832292
Have you seen the userbase on 4chan's porn boards?
It's literally a collection of the most retarded beings on earth with internet access and dumb people are likely to pay for dumb shit.
>>54832935
This is a problem I'll be addressing in my private advertising system, referring to this:
>>54832941
I have an idea on how to make advertising about as relevant as possible to end-users, while simultaneously NOT being annoying. Although I won't discuss it here, because by doing so before, fucking Facebook already started gleaning parts of the idea (although, they've implemented their updates in the exact opposite way I'll be implementing my system [because they're dicks and don't care about their users])
When I say large-scale, btw, I'm talking about my own social networking site. So, the same users will apply. I'm just not gonna be an asshole.
>>54825753
Unrequested online ads get blocked because they:
- are in the form of popups
- have sound
- use flashy animation
- use distracting colours
- contain questionable content
- contain malware
- take up bandwidth
- take up too much space on a page
Fix your advertising style, or get blocked. Very simple.
>>54832953
like 90% of the porn on this site is completely unviewable shite, and about 8% of it is barely-arousing crap.
>>54832966
I'm the web dev who's been supporting ads, here.
I fully agree with this.
Limit advertising space.
Don't use distracting ads.
Don't use JS popup windows and shit
Have someone check that the links don't contain malware
Ads that aren't distracting, however, are fine and good
>>54832922
people come on 4chan because its like reddit without muh feelings
you can always donate (4chan pass) if you want to contribute without having ads on
>>54825753
Good job making ads so intrusive that I needed to block them in the first place, fuckign faggots.
>>54832894
You sure that's Tokyo and not Hongkong? Looks exactly like that one intersection in Sleeping Dogs.
since most people here talk in a common sense kind of way, lets have the perspective of a complete moron on adblocking
>>54832894
>I need cash to invest in research.
have you considered a donation button?
A site I know of has been on the web for years, probably decades at this point. They host video game soundtracks you can download for free, and they have no ads or memberships. They have always had a clean website, easy to use, free, and open. They have a donation button, they helped me so I donated to them.
If people really appreciate what you're doing, they will help you out. Linux devs don't spam ads everywhere and they've done a shit ton of work. Dont make people fund your hobby.
>New York was always a shithole
I said somewhat acceptable, talking 1700s here.
ps, don't mention neighborhoods to anyone that doesn't live there, to us pic related is "new york". I know ny is just one spot in the circled area, but its all the same shit really.
>How about my pic related
It looks somewhat better, but that's only because its basically anime.
Really, I cant tell if its even a real picture.
It's all just real life spam. irl popups if you will.
You need to stop and ask yourself "what direction is the world going in, and do I really approve of this".
I live in a smaller city in the Appalachia area, most you'll see here is billboards, maybe a few of those tv billboards and scroll bars. There is allot of green here, trees and hills.
They are starting to tear up the local scenery to put in more walmarts, and starbucks. I saw them tear out a hill, cutting into it hundreds of feet, and the hill went up at least a couple hundred feet too.. simply to put in another gas station even though there was one right across the street. That is just one example, this is starting to happen more and more here.
>>54832699
>I don't want to disrupt my users
The fundamental point of an advertisement is to disrupt your users you fucking cuck
>>54832983
>Ads that aren't distracting, however, are fine and good
I also block them because you aren't entitled to constantly push products at my face.
>>54833000
I see Japanese kana in at least five of those signs, which strongly suggests Tokyo over Hong Kong.
I've never played Sleeping Dogs so I don't know the intersection you're talking about. I wouldn't put it past a video game to just use a map of Tokyo for making a Generic Asian Game City, though. Usually game worlds based on real places just focus on getting a few major landmarks and the broad layout correct, and then fill in whats in between with whatever.
>>54833000
Pretty sure.
In addition to only using the keyword "Tokyo", you can also make a good guess that it's not Hong Kong, because that one sing in the back
>pic related
uses Kana, not Kanji
「もんじゃ」
>>54833009
That's odd, I don't remember signing anything
>>54833009
its memetacular.
I tell kids "when I was your age, youtube didnt have ads".
I refuse to recognize "youtuber" as a thing, and I refuse to recognize it as a profession.
>contract
Youtube and I entered into a contract a many years ago, it states that "I can go there and watch whatever the fuck I want and I dont have to watch something I dont want to". Google inherited this contract when they decided to buy youtube..
>>54833015
>have you considered a donation button?
Yes, more than once. It would result in nowhere near enough money.
>Dont make people fund your hobby.
medical, space, and technological research
"hobby"?
>You need to stop and ask yourself "what direction is the world going in, and do I really approve of this".
No, we were supposed to have launched the first manned mission to Mars 3 years ago, and the first space hotels were supposed to be available last year.
Moreover, the first Moon bases were supposed to be starting in the next 9 years.
The world is dogshit, and without a massive overhaul (which will require a tremendous sum of money) it will never be good.
So, I gotta do what I can to at least give it a fucking kick in the ass to get it going.
I don't trust even 1% of the idiots in charge of this planet...
Ergo, I'll basically /use/ the system, in a less fuck-off manner than other people until something at least isn't complete and utter shite.
TL;DR: We're not talking $500 or $500,000, we're talking my goals will ultimately be way more than the $billion range.
As long as there is even a tangential risk of an attack through ads, I will block them. Why would I willingly allow something that adds risk, and simultaneously negatively impacts my browsing
>>54833158
>being this delusional
Ayy
>>54832993
>you can always donate (4chan pass) if you want to contribute without having ads on
did you not understand my post? 4chan ran exclusively on ads for nearly the first whole decade of its life. do you think anyone would've paid $20/year for ad-free access to 4chan on day 1? or even 1000?
ads have a place on the web. even in the scenario you described, ads are the fallback for people that don't want to pay per domain (or worse, pay per article).
>>54833158
>medical, space, and technological research
Don't compare your iphone app to space shuttles.
Your website isn't anywhere near brain surgery.
>we should be visiting the stars by now
Yea, but guess what keeps us here.. corporate greed and the desire to control the population.
When there are space colonies, they wont be so easy to control. Its all easy when everyone is on the same planet.
Checked the site I was talking about, it hasn't been updated but for 2015 year they were fully funded for the entire year by February.
>>54833190
Yeah, most people say that, but look at Cuckerberg. Asshole was 19, started Facebook. Now he's 1 of the richest people in the world
And he's not using the money the way he should.
I'm 22.
>>54832993
3/10 for making me reply.
>people come on 4chan because its like reddit
reddit is made up of people that couldnt handle 4chan.
They literally copied us for the first several years of their existence. They no no different than 9gag and tumblr.
>>54825753
you mean if i keep blocking ads all these shitty blog sites will die?
good fucking riddance.
>>54833224
>Don't compare your iphone app to space shuttles.
No, space shuttles are out of date.
We should be using linear induction motors to fire space planes to the edge of orbit, and ionic propulsion beyond there, AT LEAST
We also need far more particle accelerators to study antimatter and stuff.
Fucking iPhone apps are nothing but a source of funds at best, but Apple can also fuck itself.
And it even pisses me off the idiots that want to colonize Mars. Mars is a resource field, nothing more. It'd be a massive waste to terraform it, because of the expense to benefit ratio.
We should be using laser/maser drills to simultaneously tear off large amounts of iron from Mars AND pre-melting much of it to be used to build spacecraft to colonize the Space itself.
And, since much of Mars is rusted, that means Iron-Oxide. We can further extract oxygen from the rust to fill the ships afterwards.
Same for Venus. Giant resource field. Don't even view it as a planet. That atmosphere is like 96% CO2. So pump it through plants and you could gas up a fucking FLEET of starships! No one would EVER run out of air.
Jupiter?! Ha! A fucking gas station! Titan, moon of Saturn?! A field to build petrochemical products by siphoning off all the gas-type molecules!
>we should be visiting the stars by now
No, we should be putting massive ships all the way around them in a Dyson sphere of vacuums. Stars are fuel, nothing more. Entire solar system are just spaceships waiting to happen.
>>54833315
basically.
Its just a matter of waiting them out.
Someone needs to make a virus/worm that installs adblockers on everyones' computer.
never. i despise the commercialisation of the web. i want it to return to hobbyist websites and academics.
>>54833337
Now that's a /g/ worthy project. Would be even better if it was distributed through ad networks.
>>54833331
Yea basically. But governments and companies (the ones pushing for ads to be mandatory) are the ones that kept us on earth.
There is a reason nasa all but shut down..
You said your goal is to make money, you are no different.
>129 posts and 21 image replies omitted.
/g/ - Free Bait with 0 to none moderation
>>54833357
/g/ is too dead to even begin that project, and even if we did, then the shills will report us and companies would instantly begin work on blocking us.
>yfw companies use money they make from making you watch ads to lobby and campaign to force you to watch more ads, to make more money off of you
>yfw you are funding your own slavery
>>54833337
>>54833331
You sound like an insane person.
Until FLT can be done realistically and safely (probably never) doing anything in space won't be feasible. Not economically, anyways.
>>54833376
To make money to build spaceships and shit.
Very different.
How else can I funds in the range of like $400 billion/yr?
I'll need to start with advertising on websites, then start selling apps, then move to operating systems.
After that, start developing hardware, AI, and other such things.
Use a lot of the profits to build mega-farms of real estate and franchises, then smaller businesses, then larger businesses.
Then, maybe after 10 years, I can be funding research in the $10 billion range.
Maybe another 10, and I'll be able to try to buy out Wal-Mart (or at least compete with them hard), etc., etc.
Microsoft, Apple, Wal-Mart, Amazon, Google.
Eventually, it'll be a gigantic conglomerate where like 90% of profits are spent on huge scientific research.
Because Earth is just temporary, man. We gotta leave it someday, permanently, you know?
Meanwhile, massive funds to things like genetic telomerase therapy to reverse aging.
By 2100, we should at least fully run the inner solar system and have a LOT in the outer, some outside the solar system altogether.
We should also be immortal by reversing damage to DNA
>>54833436
>in the range of like $400 billion/yr?
lmao so you want to make the net worth of the richest person to ever live, EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.?
I r8 you 6/8 m8.
I would take off my adblocker if ads didn't constantly try to datamine me and track my interests
>>54833431
Firstly, FLT travel could probably be done using quantum tunneling and quantum locking to use space itself as a rubber band.
By using the same technology that levitating superconductors use along magnetic tracks, and some modification, we could actually combine warping technology with quantum tunneling to slingshot ships through real-space at many times the speed of light, by collapsing the warp at the same time the tunnel is started (and subsequently stopped only some shit like femtoseconds later)
On the other hand, I'd also be good to research warp.
Personally, I'm more interested in the idea of embedding hyperspace inside subspace.
>>54833508
My site won't do anything like that when the private ads are released. I have a much better method
>>54833508
>yfw cell phone aps have access to your gps, camera, microphone, identity, call history, web history, and whatever else I cant think of.
>yfw gps can be used to map out your house
>>54833489
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/AAPL/financials
Apple's making several tens of billions a year.
Now just dump about 80-90% of that into research funding.
And imagine Apple + Microsoft + Google + Amazon + Chase + Walmart.
And then multiply that by 0.85 (avg)
It's not how much /I/ want to make; it's how much my various companies will need to make profit
>>54833529
I don't bother with white listing certain sites because a) they're a small minority and its a pain in the ass to test every site i go to to see if they deserve a whitelist and b) there's really no way for me to trust they won't change in the future
>>54833558
I'm using cyanogenmod and disable gps camera microphone etc access for all my apps except a few via privacyguard
>>54833581
Good. Also thanks for the name, Ill look into it.
I finally caved and bought my first smart phone this year.. been meaning to de-botnet it.
>>54833560
>As the reigning emperor of the Mali empire, Musa commanded a fortune worth a jaw-dropping $400 billion. That's worth more than four times the current richest person in the world,
Your goal is literally copypasta of musa's success story. you arnt quiet 8/8 m8.
>>54833611
You have the option of not installing gapps for MAXIMUM FREEDOM but there's really no GPS app substitute for google maps
>>54833627
google maps is pretty goat..
>>54833627
how about knowing where the fuck you are yourself, instead of just asking the computer
if you know how to read a map you're able to do this.
>>54833658
I assume you use your paper map while driving.
The content is now ads. So much garbage around. If all those clickbait websites died I wouldn't shed a tear.
>>54825753
LOL 5 MILLION DOWNLOAD BUTTONS ON PAGE
>>54829322
I am 36 and I have been blocking ads since the beginning of the internet.
>>54833624
What the fuck is the Musa Empire?
That $400 billion was a roundabout generic figure. If I said anything ending with "trillion", I figured most people would completely ignore it.
I could probably come up with approximately $2.5-7.5 trillion worth of research, development, and other related activities.
I would only REALLY be able to run out of expenditures when I can no longer acquire the necessary human and machine capital.
$400 billion is actually a low amount.
Even my lesser goals can run about $10 billion per ITEM.
>Example: Before we really get the space going, we should start launching ships left and right about the size, capacity, and power systems implementation of new Nimitz-class ships, which are approximately $6-12 billion.
$400 billion would only cover maybe 40 of those, and if we start with ships, that'd be hardly jack shit, lol. We'd need hundreds and hundreds to even begin.
However, in estimating those costs, I came to wonder whether colonizing the seas is even worth it. Why not skip the oceans and move straight to space, since we're talking trillions anyway?
But either way, how many people are qualified to build nuclear aircraft carriers and nuclear space ships? Even with automation, how many machines can be acquired in a short period, unless we also have self-replicating nanobots (which is another project I'll need to fund)?
I figure $5 trillion is about the current limit that I could definitively utilize per year, but you couldn't really TRIP ME UP until you reach US National Debt levels, or near there.
>>54832731
Use a dvr, record the show for fifteen minutes, start watching, and fast forward through them.
I somehow can't believe ads actually work. I always assumed most people who clicked ads did it accidentally.
Isn't the whole online advertising business just one big ponzi scheme?
>>54833720
musa was (with inflation too) the richest person to have ever lived. Even todays richest people of the world are poor compared to him.
All of his money, gold, land, slaves, and property combined was only worth 400 billion.
You said 400 billion was your goal, to be in controll of that.
Your plan is to equal the richest person to have ever lived in terms of wealth and power.
>>54825753
The only logical solution:
Alongside paying ISP's for access to the Internet, you also pay a side fee for the privilege of viewing content ad-free. This fee scales accordingly to your data package. It works on a system similar to YouTube Red, in which content you access more frequently is distributed larger portions; for the sake of fairness, different mediums of consumed content will scale E.g. 1 hour streaming gameplay videos = 20 minutes of streaming TV shows, etc. Obviously, people can choose to pay say, %25 less data on their fees, with the added annoyance of ads. People who use ad/script blockers will be persecuted under piracy laws.
Perfect solution, to bad it'll never happen
>>54833050
It's everywhere
>>54833880
>25% less on their data fees
>>54833880
/thread
>>54833880
>tfw i will never be arrested for using an adblocker
i wish someone would punish me for my crime
>>54833880
>Forcing people to pay more for something deleterious.
You are scum.
>>54833670
I took a thousand-mile road trip to a place I'd never seen before armed with a paper road atlas and no GPS of any kind. I wrote out a quick list of reminders ("take highway X for Y miles, then take the exit for highway Z") and taped it to my steering wheel. I arrived without incident.
You do not need turn-by-turn GPS directions provided by a surveillance company.
>>54833243
>Pretending that redditors need to copy 4chan trolls
Yeah right. Keep telling yourself that.
>>54833945
>I wrote out a quick list of reminders ("take highway X for Y miles, then take the exit for highway Z") and taped it to my steering wheel
please be true
>>54833945
daily reminder that tomtom sold gps speed data to police so they can make speed traps with it
>>54833855
Well then, I guess so.
>>54833902
I didn't see those at first.
I did notice that blue sign after someone else noted it.
Never. Ads are not only annoying, but also a security risk. The internet was better when people made websites because they wanted to, not because they wanted money. The reason websites cost so much fucking money now is because everyone is ricing the fuck out of them needlessly. Remember when websites were mostly just fucking text and hyperlinks? We didn't need to worry about bandwidth usage back then. I vote we make a new protocol that lets us host websites using a bittorrent-like network, and if you put ads on it, you get reported and blacklisted.
Also the recent bullshit 1-2 minute long ads that pop up during the middle of your fucking TV shows on Amazon or Netflix at completely random moments are really starting to piss me off. I already pay subscription fees to use your service, you better goddamned well let me watch WITHOUT this ad bullshit.
>>54831649
But it's fun. Blocking ads is the only thing 99% of /g/ agrees on (and the 1% are obvious trolls).
>>54834101
>host websites using a bittorrent-like network
you dont actually understand what bittorrent is do you?
I'm sure the fuck not letting someone host parts of a website on my computer. Also any form of maintenance to that website would be impossible.
>inb4 every seeder gets v& for cp
>>54834101
The day I get an ad on Netflix is the day I cancel my subscription.
>>54833658
Tips fedorq
>>54833009
>full-time YouTuber
Ahahahahhaha.
>>54833028
This lol, if I care enough about what someone is trying to hustle I will look for it. You don't here about people complaining about search engine results ads on google. That being said I am instintively trained to ignore those ads, still, non intrusive.
>>54833337
>Its just a matter of waiting them out.
ww1 flashbacks
>>54834581
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition_warfare
>>54834625
oh, I dont see the similarity between this. attrition is wasting resources, this is more like acting like the other person is invisible.
>>54825753
>keep the Jewish empires running or else you fucking goy
I haven't and I won't change my mind. I'm not for a world where revenue is based on brainwashing.
When the net was young, we expected paid premium content to become the norm. That's what I would be fine with. I am not fine with my (or anybody else's, for that matter) brain being fiddled with unconciously, and I don't approve of the spying of people's private lives that goes on in order to do advertising more efficiently.
>>54825803
this
back in the 90s, web ads used to be either text or small clickable images or banners, simple lightweight HTML. now ads are bloated JS/flash cancer and an attack vector. everyone should use an adblocker to kill off that shit.
>>54825753
Guaranteed_replies.jpg
>>54825753
>t. full time youtuber
>>54825763
So everything needs to be paid directly?
>browsing news site
>waah turn off adblock to save starving artists
>decide to humor them
>full screen ads with timers everywhere
>a fucking second tab opens with a virus alert
>nope.jpg
This is why everyone uses adblock
>>54825753
When they propose to create a webstandard specifically created for ADs that basically disables all forms of turning the thing into a virus, i will not block those.
But as it stands, its pretty much like having repeated orgies on nigeria without protection.
>>54834873
Yes. Ads mean they don't respect their own content enough to put a price on it.
>>54832292
People actually pay for subscriptions
IIRC momless doesn't run ads if you log in even with a free account
>>54825753
I literally don't care.
>>54834995
>Ads mean they don't respect their own content enough to put a price on it.
are you honestly retarded?
>>54834995
>don't respect their own content enough to put a price on it.
Or they respect it enough that they want people to be able to access it without paying an entrance fee.
It's funny how autism really locks you into seeing the world in exactly one way despite there being as many opinions as there are people.
>>54825753
about the same time they stopped serving me with malware and tracking ads, aka never.
>>54835805
>>54835825
Butthurt youtube "content creators" detected.
>>54835866
That's some pretty desperate damage control, but I guess autism doesn't leave you many other options, does it?
>>54835833
This exactly. Adblock software blocks ads that give viruses. Even if it's new and my AV doesn't have a new virus in the definitions; I'm still safe. Inb4
>XD COMMON SENSE!
4chan had malware in ads, it's time to be real.
>>54835916
I never seen 4chan ads tho - because I never disabled adblock
>>54833945
Are you me? I do that every time I go somewhere new rather than use GPS.
>>54825753
>shilling this hard.
>>54826355
This. I really hope both of those companies fail.
>>54833627
>not using HERE maps offline
Fuck ad driven web content. All web content should be either hobbiest, public service, or paywall.
>>54825803
so much this
>LE ADS ARE BAD MAYMAY
nice meme
I'm a salesman and I run adblock. Just because I like to screw others over doesn't mean I enjoy being screwed.
>>54826538
I got a new phone the other day and fucked up by updating to most recent firmware before reading up on it. No way to root, no way to downgrade. I can possibly flash a modified hosts file but the process is risky. Easy to fuck up the timing and brick the phone. It feels so weird to use the applications I'm used to but be bombarded with ads now. Is this really how everyone experiences this now?
>>54825753
>I was 15
So when's your 16th Birthday Anon? You know you have to be 18 to post here, right?
anything worth visiting is worth paying for anyway. most tech journalists are cucked by silicon valley.
>>54841622
hah
talk to you when you grow up op!
>>54825753
>blocking ads
OY VEY
>>54825753
GOOGLE IS DEAD
FACEBOOK IS DEAD
NO ONE CAN OPPOSE US
WE WILL RISE
THEY WILL FALL
LONG LIVE FREEEEEEEEEDOM
How can i tell an ad from a tracker? They're often the same now, right?
Good. Block everything. Don't stop blocking them.
>>54825753
>isnt free
You're welcome to monitize it,and have a premium service but thats probly to hard for you.And other websites will have the same information, which will leak to the rest of the internet.
>pointless argument
>>54832731
Radio has been doing this for a long time
>>54833337
>wanting embedded, non-blockable ads to become the standard even sooner
no
Advertisers literally want pic related to happen.
>>54833009
>free TV
Cable isn't free and OTA is complete garbage. I'm paying money to watch ads on cable, not the inverse
>DVR bypassing
Isn't DVR usually provided by said cable companies, therefore the equivalent of youtube adblocking?
>legally wrong
how m80?
>nobody is being ripped off
except me and my 15 minutes a day when I can watch 3 more 5 minute videos
>Denying revenue
Any site that is important to me, I unblock. Most youtube streamers that are important to me usually don't give a shit about 3 dollars. None of them are full time "youtubers"
>It's not rocket science
I know a thing or two about rockets from solid fuel rockets
>You pirate
Do what you want, 'cause a pirate be free,
YOU ARE A PIRATE!
Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is alright to be,
Do what you want 'cause a pirate be free,
You are a pirate!
>game without paying for it
How can I pay for a AAA title when they sell the other half for 120$. I support small developers anyways
>TL;DR
Hope shills like you go bankrupt
>>54834572
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition_warfare
I don't understand this. Aren't all wars wars of attrition?
>The war will usually be won by the side with greater such resources
So, like every other war?
Which war is ever won by the side with less resources, personnel, etc.?
>>54838816
wew
>>54825753
>complains about adblock
>takes the screenshot with adblock enabled
this is what I'm getting on my end
well eventually all ads will be integrated server side so enjoy adblock while it lasts.
>>54850251
They're already doing this on Nyaa of all sites. It's surprising how far behind major corporations are when weebs are leading the advertising world
>>54850153
>Which war is ever won by the side with less resources, personnel, etc.?
Vietnam.
Also look back more than 10 years, and consider wars that america was not involved in.
In the ancient world, wars were decided by battles. You fuck up a battle and it doesn't matter so much who has more resources since you don't have an army
>>54850286
>Vietnam
Fug. Forget about that. And it's not even the Korean War, amirite?
also
>Vietnam
>war
You mean, "military conflict"?
I'm kidding, of course. Appreciate your input senpai. Very interesting thing to think about. Think it's possible to ever have another war of attrition? Specifically one where the side with least resources wins.
>>54825753
when i was 15 the only Ad in the internet whas that purple monkey. The only content that wasn't free was the one you actually had to pay.
so get out of 4chan you underage faggot
>>54850153
>Which war is ever won by the side with less resources, personnel, etc.?
Its one by the side with better logistics
total numbers mean shit
>>54825753
Ads are the cancer of media
>political agendas
>corporation shilling
ads kill real content
>>54825753
I will disable adblocker for websites I actually enjoy and don't have in your face ads. Beyond that, they are getting blocked. That's all there really is to it.
>>54825803
>my family told me they didn't click the ads
Yeah no they did.
>Make website that offers quality content
>Release all content, sponsor/ad-free a week after it's written
>Allow people to pay a small monthly fee to get access to the content a week early
Sure, people will likely go to other websites because your review of the latest video game or whatever is a week behind everyone else's but over time more and more people will discover your articles and come to trust you. Plus there are entire communities that would love to pay simply because the alternatives suck ass.
I can imagine a really good games website would become quite profitable simply because the #GamerGate crowd would be willing to help you out because you're not shilling/doing anything unethical, and I'm sure similar groups exist in other industries.
I'll stop once sites stop serving ads from third party companies that "need" tracking cookies, and don't check them for malware.
I find it hilarious that I'm reading a tech article that's about malware spreading via some ad, and above that seeing a banner asking me to turn of adblocker.
>>54851495
> whatIsVulnerability.jpg
>>54853758
>chance they clicked the ad: 99.99%
>chance that they got infected by a zero day without clicking the ad: 0.01%
Shoo!
>>54825753
No one is owed a living online. If they can't afford to run their website, then they are free to leave the arena and find a job doing something else, somewhere else.
If your content is really worth paying for, then mandate a paid subscription. Compete on the merit of your content in relation to your subscription fees.
Ads should be a last resort for fledgling creators with no credentials and no money.
Stop being fucking Google/SEO whores.
What is the /g/ approved ad blocker?
>>54830584
How do you know you got if from ebay. How do you know it's more than one?
Wouldn't this have been a big deal if eBay had infected its users with cryptolockers?
Sounds more like you opened some IsThisYourPricture.jpg.exe email attachment.
>>54825753
good riddance
>>54825753
Better idea; Charge me 2c (more than you'd get for a pageview anyway) per article I read.
>>54832611
>Also serving ads, collecting data without permission and serving malware should be a criminal offence.
This. Also it should always be opt-in. Can't wait till my generation is in office gonna be a much cleaner internet experience.
>>54832649
>that applies to anything
Most websites I frequent don't put exploits on their website intentionally. While they could, it's very unlikely.
I've always been a selfish asshole, and I couldn't care less about what the owners of websites earn.
My convenience and needs >>>>>> everything else.
>>54850251
>well eventually all ads will be integrated server side so enjoy adblock while it lasts.
If it's integrated server side the host will/can be held responsible for malware attacks. I don't think this will catch on ;)
>>54825803
Literally this, my mother's PC got hit by that ransomware crap just from ads alone
>>54825753
> remember when they cried about this the first time?
This shit's been going on since the start of adblocks. Thing is, they don't realize that every last shitter is now an online 'journalist' and so. How do they expect making more and more money?
You can only monetize so much...
its hard..
ads suck
we need ads
but fucking malware ads
>>54825753
>implicit contract that people agree to when viewing online material
Fucking shills. Its articles like this that make me turn on my adblocker.
If companies truly cared about ad revenue, they would actual vet every add and manually add the ad to their site so the added ad would not be blockable.
>>54826172
Muh free internet. Back then internet traffic was WAY less and hosts could afford to keep highly trafficked sites up without ads. Widespread high-speed and adaptation by normies changed that.
>>54828813
They don't usually try to profit. They just want not to have spend shitloads of money on maintaining it. Why do you think m00t sold out to a data miner?
Lots of retard arguments on this as usual. I use ad block for safety, but turn it off on sites that I frequent. IF YOU DONT DO THIS YOU ARE ENCOURAGING SITES TO USE MORE INTRUSIVE ADS MIXED INTO CONTENT WORKING AROUND AD BLOCK.
>>54833511
Buzzwords: the post
I was actually going to write about how each of those concepts don't really fit as well together as your implying and they have heavy limitations (such as anything involving superconductors being at ridiculously low temps) but there are just too many peppered into that post that it would take more time than I'm willing to invest on a random anon on 4chan.
