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>>54752332
I would use FreeBSD on my laptop but connecting to a wifi network is a pain
>>54752332
Nobody is using BSD.
>>54753162
Except that's wrong you fucking moron
anyone use plan 9
>>54754031
epik
>>54754052
>I learned to embrace the cuck life
ishyggy
>blobs
>no drivers
fucking dropped
>>54754065
>I mindlessly spout memes
>>54754086
>cucked by aplel
top kekeroons!
>>54754110
I hope you're someday able to receive help for your mental illnesses, anon.
>>54754137
>no bully
>stop raping me, I get enough from sony
why are bsdcucks so easily told, /g/?
>>54754356
We don't care enough about a bunch of GNU kiddies to put up a proper fight.
>>54754279
epik
>>54753137
What issues do you experience?
The first few times I tried FreeBSD the automated installer would try to connect wireless and it would always fail at DHCP lease acquisition.
After reading the handbook I found out that I can actually connect without much trouble, I just have to issue one command, which I put in my rc.conf and now I'm well past that problem.
I'm still too lazy to put wpa_supplicant at startup because I haven't yet had the need to connect to other APs
on gnulinux i just turn on my laptop and everything just works. wifi works. le dick works. shiet bsd is like a decade behind gnulinux in usability. im also not a cuck so i will not be using a os that promotes cuckoldry in its license like the bsd license
>>54754467
>le cuck license
epic meme
>>54754279
no seriously what the fuck is wrong with you
Why do i keep coming to /g/ at all?
seriously, all these meme spewing kids and the stupid dumbass who falls for it (or is he just samefagging?).
OP you motivated me to make the switch to BSD and I appreciate it but look at these thread. I hereby invite you to make this thread in a better community where there is actual discussion and people actually like to learn.
Don't want to lure unwanted visitors (though we have good moderation), but here's a hint
I demoed OpenBSD on my T61 for a week. It was really slow running gnome. I then tried Arch with gnome on the same T61 and it performed much better. What did I just experience?
>>54755262
>Gnome
There's your problem
>>54755213
whatever you say, OP
>>54755262
GNOME on BSD is a hack, mostly.
Still, I think OpenBSD on laptops is underclocked by default. There was a sysctl parameter to making it run faster, but I don't remember what it is since I never had to set it.
>>54755213
>letting people spread FUD
By far, BSD shills are some of the most persistent and aggressive shills on /g/. This entire board is basically shill express anyway. Don't know how long till the shills leave BSD on jump on the next obscure, cool OS.
>>54755537
and you're the most persistent and aggressive loser
>>54755581
See what I mean? I'd rather not use an operating system used by pretentious morons like you. I'll actually stick to an OS which was intended for desktop use, like debian. Have fun with your special OS with almost zero driver support.
>>54755605
>I'll actually stick to an OS which was intended for desktop use
OpenBSD's intended for desktop use.
>>54755605
i just find it funny that you didn't try to disprove what i said
enjoy being so triggered by every BSD thread that you have to post how much you don't like it in every thread
>>54755631
>in every thread
Nice projecting, this is literally the first time I ever posted in a BSD thread. I don't really care about disproving you either, because I don't want nor do I intend on using BSD. If you have fun with your special niche OS and makes you feel cool, then by all means use it.
>>54755619
No it's not, it's at best a laptop OS.
>>54755663
>laptop OS.
Same thing.
Gentoo > BSD
Portage is better than Ports
The Gentoo community is better and more professional than BSD
Gentoo is more flexible
I would go on but the autistic BSD community probably wont listen anyway because they're stubborn, pompous fanboys.
>>54755663
>Nice projecting, this is literally the first time I ever posted in a BSD thread.
sure
Bailed out by a gypsy buttcoin milionaire and theo the rat keeps his secret signify keys in an unnetworked computer in his basement. OpenBSD is ghetto as hell. This shit is like some poor ass college student's CS project. Imma just stick to linux
>>54755711
>OpenBSD is every BSD
>>54755729
>OpenBSD is intended for desktop use
>Wait guys, let me rephrase that, it's ONE of the BSDs for desktop use hehehehe tricked you guys.. . . .. . . .
>>54755755
You should reply to people when you're replying top them, much like I am doing as I reply to you. Otherwise it just seems like you're adding another shitpost to the thread. I guess that's what you were doing either way, but you get the point.
>>54755755
literally schizophrenia
>>54755729
>FreeBSD = apple cucks
>NetBSD = toaster os
what next, fagboy?
>>54756097
epik memes
>>54756113
>maximum damage control
say it ain't so, cuckboy! :^)
We need shadow bans for the cuck memesters
>>54756172
>no bully pls
fuck off
>>54756172
But YOU are the cucks, lads!
>>54756172
Just report them, you idiot.
>>54752332
I just switched my dedicated server running Linux to FreeBSD. Huge difference in setup and ease of configuration. Incredibly refreshing having a whole new experience and reading up on the manuals to see how everything works. FreeBSD on a server environment is definitely light-years of using something as outdated and fucked as Ubuntu for servers or being retarded and using Arch for a Linux server.
>>54756203
It wouldn't be that bad if you people didn't conduct yourselves as a bunch of edgy twelve year olds.
Then again that's probably all you really are.
>>54756217
You think I'm not? My point stands.
>>54756228
>server
>Arch
>Ubuntu
yeah, you sound retarded already
>FreeBSD
we're not surprised with this next choice
>>54756229
>waaaaah, I want an echo chamber
try tumblr, dip
>>54756295
I don't want an echo chamber, I want a fucking discussion. You faggots contribute nothing to it.
>>54756321
What did you shit stain contribute?
>>54756333
What do you care? You're only here to shit on everything BSD related.
>>54756295
>wanting quality discussion beyond "le cuck xD" is wanting an echo chamber
"no"
>>54756340
>>54756373
>quality discussion
top kek
>>54756432
so you DON'T have anything to contribute then?
>>54756432
Yeah it's hilarious to want to discuss technology on a technology board isn't it?
>>54756340
>I have nothing
we know
>>54756456
Wow anon you sure showed me
Let's see it, cucks, start the discussion!
>>54756471
Quit shitting the thread up and we could get one going.
>>54756471
Alright.
So is there any reason to upgrade NetBSD to 7.0.1 or is it just an insignificant point release?
>>54756491
No reason.
>>54756503
Alright, just making sure.
I kind of like how they don't push out new releases too often, because I don't have to upgrade every 6 month. But I think they don't really make any new advancements as a result, it's a shame because NetBSD is genuinely interesting.
>>54756448
>waaaaah, we want to discuss technology
>ok, discuss
>NO! why do you care?
these cuck spergs I swear
>not installing freebsd with your gf having sex with another man in the background
>>54756491
I didn't know that existed.
>>54756520
Upgrading OpenBSD isn't difficult at all. It certainly took something like 15 minutes, can't really remember.
>>54756706
that's totally not what happened but ok
it was more like
>ok, discuss, cuck xD i dont care im gonna keep shitposting
>>54756794
>Upgrading OpenBSD isn't difficult at all. It certainly took something like 15 minutes, can't really remember.
It isn't if you're using the rd installer, but actually keeping up with erratas is a pain in the ass. Though I guess there's always M:Tier.
>>54756796
>totally not what happened
>>54756295
>>54756321
>>54756333
>>54756340
m8...
>>54756843
>m8...
epic xD he does it again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EYdzGyNWs
Pledge looks pretty cool I hope it gets adopted by more systems
>>54756854
>totally not what happened tho
c'mon cuck, please
>>54756843
>the guys responding to le epik cuck troll aren't discussing BSD
No fucking shit, we're too busy dealing with your sorry ass.
>>54756866
Shame about this presentation's length and the upload's quality, which gets desynch'd like halfway through.
>>54756878
>we're too busy
>too busy
>TOO
>BUSY
>thread is a ghost town tho
TOP FUCKING KEK, LAD!
>>54756898
i just think it's funny that this thread apparently has only 16 unique IPs in it, with 75 posts, 70% of which are probably you, you pathetic sack of shit
>>54756914
so... without me there's nothing to talk about? why the fuck did you make the tread, spergshit?
>>54756927
Nobody's bothering with discussion because you won't shut the fuck up, it's not that hard to understand. Then again it may be different for the mentally ill such as yourself.
>>54756927
>he has THIS much unwarranted self-importance
you are literally mentally ill, please get help
>>54756823
Yeah, I went from 5.8 to 5.9 release without keeping track of errata, I'll fix that up soon by trying stable.
I'm relatively new to Unix, FreeBSD being the first Unix I enjoyed, and OpenBSD the second.
>>54756941
>>54756943
just be grateful your shitty cuck thread didn't reach page 10 with 9 posts and say thanks :^)
>>54756995
You'll like linux even more!
>>54757051
who the fuck even cares if it does that?
only you do, i just hang out in them when they happen
i really don't get why you still post in them every day if they're so fucking triggering, how many bans do you evade per day?
>>54757051
It would've done fine without you, whenever I find a BSD thread I watch and bump it when it comes close to deletion. Now that you know you're not needed, please go, you've got like 100 other threads to shitpost in on this board alone, though it'd be much appreciated if you just stopped shitposting altogether.
>>54757087
>i just hang out
then hang out and shut the fuck up, this ain't iMessage, nobody is talking directly to you expecting a response, shit eater
>so fucking triggering
sounds like you're the one triggered
>>54757237
>iMessage
there you go again
this isn't the first time you bring up iMessage, don't act like you aren't always samefagging
>>54757075
Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE, and Centos were terrible experiences. No thanks.
I'll keep using OpenBSD and the other BSDs.
>>54757091
>I watch and bump it
so you admit there's no discussion going on here anyway; then shut the fuck up
>100 other threads to shitpost
no, the others are for actual discussion
>>54757256
>there you go again
>so fucking triggered
bwahahahahahahaha
>>54757263
>so you admit there's no discussion going on here anyway
No, I bump it in case of the lack of discussion, not once did I say there is no discussion. Quit putting words in my mouth you fucking mongoloid.
>the others are for actual discussion
As is this one.
>>54757237
also
>lol im shitposting!!1
>WAIT WHY ARE YOU RESPONDING REEEE
what is wrong with you
>>54757263
>homescreen general
>actual discussion
>>54757261
>terrible experiences
they assume you have a brain tho
>other BSDs
say no more, apple makes a fine BSD, alright ;^)
>>54757281
>in case of the lack of discussion
there's always a lack of discussion in this shit thread
>As is this one.
there's no need to lie on the internet
>>54757297
>homescreen general
yeah, it's sad when homescreen general has more intelligent discussion than bsd threads
>>54757319
>there's always a lack of discussion in this shit thread
Nah
>there's no need to lie on the internet
I haven't once lied itt
>>54757341
>I haven't once lied itt
let's see: are you using OSX?
>>54757365
lol he's just gonna respond and you're gonna say "NO YOU LIAR" like the little child you are
>>54757365
Nope
>>54757381
>he's just gonna respond and you're gonna say
how do you know what he's gonna say? are you actually samefagging?
>>54757382
not right now? or do you mean you don't own apple products?
>>54757381
>like the little child you are
oops, meant to say
>like the little child he is
but yeah, the shitposter in this thread is literally /g/'s barneyfag, and im gonna keep forcing this meme because its true
>>54757432
Not right now. I've got a few PowerPC Macs but they all run OpenBSD. I've got one Intel iMac I use as a desktop that actually runs OS X. I'm currently on my laptop which runs OpenBSD.
>>54757488
>I've got one Intel iMac I use as a desktop that actually runs OS X
>I use as a desktop
>I use
>>54757365
>are you using OSX?
>>54757382
>Nope
point made
>>54757525
What exactly is your point? Fucking moron.
>>54755213
That place is even slower than here
>>54757545
that you needlessly lie on the internet
>>54753137
I set up wifi w/ freebsd on a thinkpad and it was easy as fuck. Maybe you just have a low IQ and/or are female.
>>54757672
you asked "are you using OSX"
you didn't ask "do you use OSX"
learn english, fucktard
>>54757672
You asked me if I was using OS X. I am not, I'm using OpenBSD. You never asked for a complete list of operating systems I use. As I've said before, I've yet to lie itt.
>>54757685
cucks, everyone! :^)
>>54757728
>i-i was just pretending to be retarded
>>54757702
>I use as a desktop
lad...
>>54757381
>you're gonna say "NO YOU LIAR"
looks like it was the right call
>>54757488
>Intel iMac I use as a desktop that actually runs OS X
>>54757739
>stop raping me!
>pls no bully
>REEEEE
yeah, appleshit, deal with it!
ITT: Apple shills BTFO!
>>54757789
projecting: the post
>>54757749
>>54757776
"Using" is present tense. It's only correct to answer the question with yes if I am using OS X right now. I'm not.
>>54757813
at this point i have no idea if this is a parody post, because the only person who keeps getting BTFO in this thread is you
>>54757826
>I'm not.
we all know you're logged into iMessage right now anon, come on, stop lying! :^)
>>54757933
I've never used iMessage.
>>54757945
>never used
but you are "using" it now, right? present tense! :^)
aaaaah, appleshits: always a joy to fuck them in the ass
>>54757999
What did he mean by this?
>>54757999
There is no way you're more than twelve years old.
>>54758017
This is why you gotta keep responding in every thread he shows up, he just makes himself look insane every time, and the more insane he looks, the less likely people are to believe his FUD.
>>54758064
dude someone could make a bingo game out of your shitposts because they're always the same
>>54758062
I've noticed, it's pretty fun
>>54758064
>le epik cuck meme again
Wow! Didn't see that coming!
>>54758085
>they're always the same
because you don't change: you're always cucks! you got comfy with the cuck life!
>>54758064
it's ironic that you mention a meme comeback and you do one next sentence
Oh my, so much serious """""discussion""""" going on here! Truly a BSD thread!
>>54758142
>he has no comeback so he doesn't directly reply to someone
>LOOK I CAN DERAIL THREADS
loving every laugh
>>54758123
not a meme if it's true tho, and everyone agrees you are cucked hard
>>54758165
yeah i guess baneposting isn't a meme because TDKR was a perfectly written movie with no flaws
>everyone agrees you are cucked hard
keep pretending you aren't samefagging, make sure to mention iMessage next post
>>54758142
If we try to discuss you dipshits spam cuck everywhere, if we don't you whine about how we don't discuss anything. No matter what you're here fucking shit up. A five year old could see the flaws in your logic yet somehow you can't.
I wanted to ask a legit bsd question but for some reason these fags can't just leave the bsd threads alone. So i am going to ask my question on /r/BSD or whatever reddit bsd generals exist on reddit. So i hope all you fags are happy that you've ruined this thread.
>>54758142
See what you do? >>54758224
>>54758224
>pretending
c'mon cuck, we all know you've been here all along backpedaling every time you were shown your place; no need to lie
>>54758259
The only person who's been shown their place is you, repeatedly.
>>54758259
>WHY AREN'T YOU DISCUSSING ANYTHING
>well i wanted to
>NO YOU DIDN'T
???
>>54758224
>I wanted to ask a legit bsd
like: why doesn't this piece of shit doesn't work? don't worry, nobody knows, they all use OSX and just meme about BSDs
>>54758259
I can't hear you i'm on reddit /bsdgeneral/ having mature conversations about BSD
>>54758273
>shown their place
>by cucks
m8, please...
>>54758293
ebin!
>>54758284
I'm using OpenBSD right now you twat.
>>54758310
>le epik cuck meme again
Wow anon, you sure are original.
>>54758293
what? I can't hear you over the REEEEEEE of these cucks getting their mouths raped!
>>54758339
You haven't baited anyone, we're just playing along. You and I both know regardless of how we reply or if we reply at all you'll still be here shitting up the thread.
alright, appleshits, you have 1 hour to actually discuss, I'm gonna watch a movie
there better be some serious discussion when I get back or your asses are getting fucking rekt big time
later :^)
>>54758375
it's funny because even if we didn't respond to his original post he'd just keep posting and even replying to people with "HAHA WHY DO YOU USE BSD"
>>54758393
>I'm gonna watch a movie
more like
>I have to eat hot pockets my mom baked me
>>54755605
>GNU/Linux
>desktop use
>>54758393
What's your problem anyway?
>waah they use an OS family I dislike, I'm going to do everything I can to shit on all discussion of it
>>54758485
I don't know. It's just sad.
Anything new in 6.0-beta?
>>54758500
Oh, and apparently I heard they're getting a new scheduler inspired by BFS? Does that apply to 6.0-beta or is it not mature yet?
**trigger warning**
**mature bsd question**
Advantages of running freebsd or openbsd as a vps on digital ocean? I'm currently running ubuntu lamp stack but that's just because i didn't know jack shit about servers or linux when I set it up. Main objective is to host small low traffic websites, sites that use php for some basic templating etc, maybe some mysql, but nothing fancy like an app. I'm thinking about running nginx and i want the most bang for my buck. I want to host as many sites as possible using virtual hosts and still have good performance. I also want strong security. Would bsd offer me any advantages over linux? I definitely want to get off of ubuntu and apache because it seems to be bloated and wasteful with the system resources.
>>54758500
>>54758508
Wouldn't know, I stick with -stable
Is it true that HAMMER2 is coming to OpenBSD or just rumors?
>>54758520
I think the rule of thumb is using FreeBSD if you serve a lot of content. OpenBSD would work too, but if you're using it in a huge networking environment it's mostly gonna be installed on switches and such.
>Would bsd offer me any advantages over linux
That's mostly a matter of preference, but I appreciate *BSDs for their documentation and simplicity. They have a great firewall that's not a complete fucking mess, too.
>>54758539
HAMMER2 isn't even done, yet. I think there was some talk of a Dragonfly dev studying OpenBSD to eventually port HAMMER to it. It would be a good way to compete with ZFS.
>>54758571
Oh okay, I hope it happens. It'd be nice to not need FFS.
>>54758539
>>54758571
https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2016/04/11/17932.html
Here's a source on the HAMMER thing, actually.
http://man.openbsd.org/vnd
How possible would it be to write programs that take advantage of this? I'm thinking of something Plan 9-esque. The one FUSE file system I found for Plan 9 was broken.
So I've installed OpenBSD on my Thinkpad X201, and the wifi just isn't working at all. I've tried installing iwn, but it still doesn't detect my wifi card, and ifconfig refuses to show anything. Wat do?
>>54758968
Well, what was the actual wi-fi card?
>>54758968
>>54759105
Also have you used fw_update AND rebooted?
On my computer, I'd get a black screen on first boot because OpenBSD was downloading the firmware for my GPU, so I had to reboot it and it worked.
>>54758520
Stability, pf firewall is way better then iptables, cleaner code, compile ports yourself
>>54758571
>on switches
Tell this to netflix and Whatsapp both use FreeBSD and serve over millions of people everyday, FreeBSD is stability and It's also being used in network environment specially because it scales so well.
>>54759214
I wasn't talking about FreeBSD when I was talking about switches.
>>54759105
Intel Centrino card, iwn driver supports it. See:
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd010141#comm
>>54759141
I've run it and rebooted, plus created a host name file for the nonexistent interface and rebooted again. Dmesg doesn't even throw an error, the interface just doesn't appear to exist, despite working under Linux without hassle.
>>54757684
Topclack
I don't know anything about BSD. Is FreeBSD better than OpenBSD? Most people I know that use BSD are using FreeBSD.
>>54759314
That's really strange.
http://man.openbsd.org/iwn.4
I know I'm gonna sound annoying and like a pajeet on tech support, but did you read this?
Are all the files in /etc/firmware?
>>54759412
It probably has more drivers, I think its the most popular BSD.
>>54759417
Already read it back to front twice. Also, see pic for /etc/firmware contents.
>>54759575
Well shit. I don't know what to tell you.
The only idea I have now is rebooting, entering boot -c at the boot prompt and enabling iwn from there. To actually enable it you can type "enable iwn".
>>54759594
Alright, m8, thanks for the advice. I'll try that and then get back to the thread.
>>54759594
>>54759604
Let's hope this means it's working all of a sudden…
>>54759634
>already enabled
the fuck
>>54759634
>upside down
T-thanks Apple…
In other news, ifconfig still reports no iwn. Let's try resetting the BIOS and trying again!
>>54759672
Well hopefully the picture is right side up, but here's the output after unplugging the Ethernet cable, resetting BIOS, and rebooting again. Unfortunately, iwn0 is STILL not showing up in ifconfig. Seems I'm basically SOL, and should go back to Linux. Maybe another time, BSD. Another time.
>>54759719
Hah, still upside down. Fuck you, iOS, and your for some godforsaken reason shitty way of storing photos.
>>54759719
I'm really pissed off now, I REALLY want to know why it's not working.
Hope I don't run into a similar issue if I get a ThinkPad.
>>54759634
>>54759719
Senpai you installed the Australian patch
>>54759754
>mfw
>>54759744
Same here, mate. I hope nobody else has this issue. I only paid $100 for this computer and I love it to bits but I've been lusting after BSD for months and now that I finally have time to try it out it does fuck all. Very disappointing.
>>54755262
Try FreeBSD and next DragonflyBSD whey currently have almost lasted intel drm (from 4.3 but unstable) driver or just FreeBSD with experimental intel drm driver from 4.6 https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics/tree/drm-next-4.6 .
>>54755262
>I demoed OpenBSD on my T61 for a week. It was really slow running gnome. I then tried Arch with gnome on the same T61 and it performed much better. What did I just experience?
Anecdotal bullshit immature retard logic.
>>54755537
>Don't know how long till the shills leave BSD on jump on the next obscure, cool OS.
BSD has been around long before any existing OS dumbfuck. Doesn't register as a fad.
>>54755619
>OpenBSD's intended for desktop use.
nope. these are the intentions.
http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
>>54760701
I meant the devs use it as a desktop OS and therefor develop it to be one, which you can't deny.
>>54755690
>The Gentoo community is better and more professional than BSD
Yeah thats why Gentoo's nonprofit status lapse for years because of ineptitude. OpenBSD has had uninterrupted 6-month releases for over a decade. Openbsd foundation sits on cash and is actually professional as a Canadian nonprofit.
>>54755711
>keeps his secret signify keys in an unnetworked computer in his basement
yeah because anything super secret has to look like a cyberpunk film. faggot.
I can't wait until OpenBSD gets RPi support. Apparently one of the devs got their hands on it and is studying it.
>>54759412
>Most people I know that use BSD
I don't believe this at all.
>>54760829
I don't care what you think senpai.
>>54755262
>What did I just experience?
Gnome and all it's epic shittiness. Try Xfce, or KDE. Both work great. Better yet, try Fluxbox, use it to build a custom DE that suits you perfectly, and maybe stop bloating your system unnecessarily
>>54761059
i remember being a noob
>>54757933
Iwhat? It's like ircII or something?
>>54759412
Better for what? As a desktop, no. As a router/firewall, no. As a simple boot and forget server, no. For development, no.
As a complex server/server farm, yes. For bleeding edge/enterprise features, yes. For vastly superior Linux binary compatibility, yes.
What makes OpenBSD more secure than FreeBSD?
>>54761638
>For vastly superior Linux binary compatibility
Of course FreeBSD has a better Linux compat layer, OpenBSD doesn't have one at all.
>>54761146
Oh sorry son, didn't mean to bash your precious like that. It is shit though, unless you just happen to be retarded and love trying to use a GUI clearly designed for tablets on a PC/laptop. Or if you just love systemd, which I'm sure you most certainly do, because we've already established that you are retarded. Go ahead. Show us how you can count to potato.
>>54761639
Nothing.
>>54761773
Openbsd seems to have created a ton of cool things that everyone else uses like openssh etc. Why don't more people use openbsd?
>>54761972
Because people are conformists who want binaries without sources.
>>54761773
oh hey how was your movie
>>54762027
kek
>>54761972
>Openbsd seems to have created a ton of cool things that everyone else uses like openssh etc.
It's side project and not OpenBSD itself.
>Why don't more people use openbsd?
Because of internal politic.
Literally dictatorship.
>>54762027
My movie?
I should been make a one?
>>54762529
He was implying you were the asshole from earlier
