https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCMMf-_ASE
I manage cables because I don't want it looking like a cluster fuck.
i always skip luke videos
hes so dull and probably the biggest reason why girls suddenly like computers
>>54749763
I think Cable management might have made more of a difference back when everyone had one exhaust and one intake with the shitty stock coolers
>cable management for cooling
What the fuck am I watching
>>54749763
YOUR THREADS ARE BEING DELETED FOR A REASON
DIRECTLY ADVERSTISING YOUR SHITTY VIDEOS IS SPAM
FUCK OFF LINUS
>>54750374
People have said that having shitty cable management will impact the airflow, and thus the cooling. It's a bunch of shit in the way of fans, it seems logical to assume that it impacts it at least a little bit.
>>54749880
>i
You have to be 18 or older to post here
>>54749880
>i always skip luke videos
>Meaning you watch Linus
Kill yourself
>>54750407
>Published on Feb 8, 2016
>99.9% of /g/ uses adblock
you got me anon!
>>54750429
it will in smaller cases, any large ATX or even most mATX towers will have more than enough air flow, unless you really do something stupid that air flow shouldn't be a huge deal.
Mainly cable management is for aesthetics if you have a side window, that's why most people caring about cable management these days will spring for the colored sleeved cables
Cable management hasn't been about performance for a long time now. Just like it isn't in a lot of industrial facilities. It's about serviceability and limiting risks of any kind of mechanical interferences.
>>54751333
wires everywhere
>That gap
Fucker can't even close a fucking case normally.
Actually amazed you can put a fucking t-shirt in there without effect though.
>>54749763
I'm not gonna give the user any views but judging from the parts in the video he didn't actually see if cable management had an impact since the impact comes from the months down the road when dust sticks to all the cables in the case.
One slight touch and some of the dust will fall off the cables and spread around in the case and get sucked into all the coolers.
Without any cables the dust either falls to the bottom of the case or into the coolers from the get go, so it's easier to clean instead of having to clean those AND the cables.
TL;DR fewer cables, less dust accumulation.
>>54751472
STOP SPAMMING /g/ WITH YOUR SHITTY VIDEOS LINUS
FUCK OFF
>>54751535
For me to stop, I'd have to start it first though. Are you saying you want me to start spamming /g/ with these videos?
>>54751523
>less dust accumulation
oh so you mean the magnetic filter kit from demiflex doesnt keep the dust out for me?
>>54751584
me =/= everybody
>>54751599
i have a 200R (meaning a big ass vent on top) and there's literally no dust after over a year outside of a very fine film and im filthy as fuck an could write my name on top of my monitor
its also 99% passively cooled besides the noctua heatsink and fan blowing up and the PSU pulling from inside the case below
>>54751650
>its also 99% passively cooled
well duh. if you have less air flow through your case, you'll have less dust stuck in it.
>>54751650
Again what you have is not what everybody else have.
I don't even have any air flow on my PC since PSU fan is off since I can't use enough for it to power on unless I buy a second GPU to raise the load wattage over the fan-on threshold.
CPU fans are off unless CPU is over 55c which doesn't happen when I browse which I do 95% of the time the PC is on.
GPU fans stop when I don't game.
I have filters on every fan mount and I have positive air pressure when fans actually do start.
Nor do I have it dusty in my home.
But others do have dust, and some don't have filters.
THOSE are the ones I'm referring to if you didn't understand that.
>>54751523
t. cognitive dissonance poster
I've been telling people this for years - cable management is fucking worthless for anything except aesthetics... and even then, it's basically saying "I don't tinker with my computer's insides like, ever, because I had to follow directions to the letter in order to get it assembled since I actually don't understand what's going on in there, haha"
If you leave your cables hanging out you have better access to them and can more easily and quickly switch out components and component locations to optimize what really matters, such as where your hard drives are located, in order to maximize airflow.
The last time this shit mattered was back when IDE ribbon cables were fucking everywhere.
>>54751723
>Needing to switch HDDs around
>Not just doing it right the first time
>>54751723
>Components
Ok, so let's change the GPU from PCI-E 16x slot 1 to slot 3 or something.
Oh right, the PCI-E 8pin cables don't need to be removed to fit the new slot since they aren't stiff as steel and you can just have them in any angle.
>HDD
All non-shit cases have the ports on the backside now so you have to open the backside anyway.
pic related a very popular case among users.
>>54751723
> good cable management means you don't tinker with your guts ever
Lel
I guess you suck at it and made this up to make yourself feel better, right?
>>54751739
>relying on theory rather than empirical experimentation
>>54751806
you've obviously never tried to do any this with a very tightly-packed cable management in place.
>All non-shit cases have the ports on the backside now so you have to open the backside anyway.
And I fucking hate those designs, and do not buy them or use them properly if possible.
>>54751860
Well I'm speaking from experience as a small business PC OEM, take that as you will. I feel like it might be coming from decades of experience with tinkering with the innards of PCs or something like that, but you know, fuck me, right?
>>54751993
>Well I'm speaking from experience as a small business PC OEM, take that as you will.
I certainly will.
>>54752031
I knew you would, you autistic muh aesthetics cock gobbler
>>54752078
I didn't even mention aesthetics.
>>54751723
>"I don't tinker with my computer's insides like, ever, because I had to follow directions to the letter in order to get it assembled since I actually don't understand what's going on in there, haha
What the fuck are you on about?
How does one do good proper cable management without knowing whats going on? What shows me someone is retarded is when they do straight cable runs because they are afraid they might forget where SATA connectors go.
It takes far more time and effort to properly organize cables than it does to just slap everything together and get it working. There are no step by step directions telling you how to do proper cable management, there isn't a guide you can follow that will give you the answers as it will change depending on your individual build and case anyway.
>>54752096
it's literally the only reason to manage your cables, so if you're not advocating management on the basis of aesthetics then you are misinformed and inexperienced.
See, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you were just a faggot.
>>54752134
see, the cable management in that pic, I'm OK with. It's functional; it doesn't absolutely obsess about having every possible inch of cable tucked away; there's some give there which makes it possible to move shit around.
I'm sperging more about pic related, where it would be difficult or impossible to move the GPU. It gets worse when people then also start tying everything down to the case with zipties... drives me up a wall.
The other painful thing about it is, again, those backwards HDDs. If there were a backplane they went into I could understand, but there isn't, and it's a fucking awful experience to swap shit in and out of those slots compared to just having them go in the "ugly" way.
>>54752148
>it's literally the only reason to manage your cables
I disagree.
>>54752224
don't worry, I've noted your personal disagreement. I would never think of accidentally believing you might be persuaded to rationality.
>>54752207
Let me trigger your a little.
Here's the thing, though.
In this build just about everything is easy to add or remove.
The hardest thing to swap would be the motherboard, but only if you got one with different 24pin/8pin locations.
Even then though, you just pull the slack out of those cable and you're good to go.
![IMG_1584[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bsJvVtI.jpg "IMG_1584[1].jpg")
>>54752207
forgot pic
>>54752343
It's not really a surprise that somebody that says he has experience building small PC OEM in a thread like this doesn't think shit cable management can have a negative effect on ease of use.
>>54752358
>impossible to move the GPU
Just unscrew the ones holding the card then.
>>54749763
>takes minutes to do
>looks much better
>easier to install new parts without cables in the way
>>54752377
The problem is the PCIe power cable is probably cable tied down to keep it where it is and I doubt it'd stretch any further than it currently is without rewiring half the shit under the motherboard tray.
>>54752351
As long as you allow there to be slack, it's not the worst thing in the world.
What I see too often from people, though is shit like this:
>my northbridge is running a little hot so I know I should probably put a 40mm on it to cool it
>I won't though, because there's no way to route the cable so that it's not right in the middle of my build
>I also won't put a door fan on because there's no way to make that cable look good in my case window
>I guess I'll just reduce my overclock and hope that my north bridge cools down.
losing performance or fun for the sake of cable management is just retarded.
>>54752406
You have 4 PCI-E 16x lanes.
First one is 16x, second one is most certainly 8x then 4x and 4x.
Why would you do that?
Why would you use the graphic card as an example when that is one of the worst examples you could use?
Open air works better for this one for some reason, bios overclocking doesn't produce much because of the stock cooler.
>>54752443
What do PCIe lanes have to do with PCIe power cables?
>>54752461
You mean:
Why would you place the card on the lower slots unless you have SLI if nothing is obstructing the card as it is?
And even then if you used SLI, would you use the 2nd and 3rd slot instead of the 1st and 2nd?
Again, your example is shit and losing the cable isn't taking 4 hours of maintenance and 100 hired specialists.
>>54752500
Someone has their panties in a bunch.
Maybe I want to upgrade to an R9 nano you dumb nigger faggot, go ahead and stretch over that PCIe cable now.
>>54752425
Those people just need to get more creative, then. ;)
If personally reduce my OC because I refuse to accept the house s 40mm fan would bring, but I'm sure I could make it look acceptable.
Also I'm kind of disappointed you didn't sperg out over my cable management, to be honest.
Though it proves you're actually reasonable, which I didn't expect since this is 4chan.
>>54752522
You're the one making such a big whiny fuzz over not being able to handle your own damn cable management.
Post the backside of the case so we can help you with the most trivial task there is.
>>54752563
It's not my case you ignorant shit, i'm simply saying that's why it's retarded to do cable management like that. Super tied down cables are retarded. There needs to be a good bit of slack.
>>54749763
I hate it when seeing /g/ talk about airflow because most don't understand airflow.
The people who understand it know it's a pressure system, they don't get stopped by obstacles like cables.
I know you don't understand airflow if you say the following:
1) "hot air rises"
2) "front in back out"
3) "front in top out"
4) "cables block air"
Please educate yourself and read about the physics on air.
>>54752583
Thanks for proving my point again retard.
It's not your rig yet you're so fucking certain he made sure his cables wouldn't be able to stretch.
Are you having mental problems on other topics as well?
Mind using a trip so I can follow your idiotic OCDs?
>>54752461
Nobody is going to move their GPU from a x16 slot to x8 slot, that's just fucking retarded
>>54752628
he's right though, that shit is probably tied down behind somewhere, which is how they got it to look so neat and tight - otherwise the stiff cables like that tend to pop back out and look slack. That's not evident here.
I can also say from personal experience that waaaaay too many faggots ziptie their shit to the point where it's unusable. It's not a stretch to see how a person who make a rig like the one in the picture we are discussing would probably be a bitch like that.
Yes, I'm prejudiced as fuck against people who color coordinate their builds.
>>54752865
I wasn't talking about that idiot. I even mentioned it specifically in a later post if you'd bothered to read the thread before vomiting from your hands.
>>54749880
I always watch Luke videos because he's so handsome. I bet his Canadian cock tastes like bacon.
>>54752596
>it's a pressure system
>implying those tiny ass fans could create any kind of pressure
>>54752881
>maybe I wanted to switch from a normal GPU to the shortest one there is
Yeah you're still fucking retarded
>>54752596
hot air rises, front in back out, front in top out, oh and cables block air.
>>54752596
I'm no expert but isn't the equation Q = ∆P/R?
seems like a bulk of cables would contribute to resistance
>>54752993
At least I'm not the one who decided to cable manage that retarded build. I have enough slack on mine I can upgrade to whatever I want in a few minutes.
>>54752367
except that's not what I think. I just think the hide as much of your cables as possible away "clean" meme is bad.
Cable management should be all about ease of use, nothing more or less, unless your PC is being used as a display piece or something like that.
>>54753015
cables would interrupt laminar flow, creating turbulence, but honestly that shit doesn't matter inside a PC. A server, maybe, considering they're set up to be like wind tunnels.
>>54753051
No, you keep them away from components, stick them on the back, bundle them to make them take as little space as possible while also making sure they don't attract dust.
>>54753092
yeah no that shit's retarded senpai
clean your shit and don't be a slob. If you want to make the back of your PC into a goddamn gordian knot in the name of false pretenses don't expect me to laud you for it.
>>54753125
Your way of knotting things in the back has nothing to do with cable management and your reaction to it proves it.
You're shit at cable management, we get it.
>>54753173
no, what this exchange proves is you're shit at communication, both in the participatory and interpretive senses.
ps - your idea of cable management is bad and you should feel bad
>>54753197
At least try to not sound like such a sore loser.
Cable management is always better deal with it.
>>54753285
agree so long as you put "proper" in front of "cable management"
and don't forget you have no idea what that is
>>54753051
>except that's not what I think.
Sorry for assuming otherwise, when you say otherwise earlier. Dipshit.
I do it to make my stuff pretty and get /g/'s approval. Is there any problem with that officer?
>>54753345
You seem to have the wrong idea on what "you" and "I".
Your cable management sucked so you think others don't know how to do it, just because you can't do a "proper" cable management.
http://imgur.com/a/9Urfm
>>54753417
jesus christ, triggered
>>54753856
https://www.reddit.com/r/CableManagement/comments/2ush76/jotm_winners_for_2014/
One of the winners: March: koalapear
Of course you're triggered, he won, while you're shit.
>>54754250
>
description of the subreddit:
>Our purpose is to showcase all the art that goes into creating optimal airflow as well as providing a resource for anyone who has a question about cable management.
HAHAHHAHOHOOWHOA I can't even wat sufficiently
son, anyone who wins that contest is pretty much guaranteed to be a shitter
