>tfw 10 core android phones will be coming out
>tfw 6GB ram
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
>tfw the phone has more ram than my desktop
What the fuck?
I feel like technology is progressing faster than I can keep track of it.
My current desktop is an i3 2120 with 4GB ddr3 ram. Makes me feel bad 2bh.
And still, the fact that it doesn't run full Linux/Windows and lack of keyboard limits it every possible way.
>>54649020
I wish I could have a phablet running win7 and linux with one of those fancy little bluetooth keyboards and 10h battery life.
>>54649020
You can install linux on it. You can also plug in a keyboard if you want.
>>54649020
You can use an otg adapter to pretty much turn it into a tiny pc, and isn't android just a modified Linux? So your terminal should still work.
Thats because android has shit optimization and needs a nuclear reactor to do what iOS does with a watermill
>>54649077
Funny how android phones with weak as shit processors and 1GB ram manage to run just fine.
>>54649037
>>54649070
Yeah, that's true.
How is the performance on that though? Would it hold a candle to actual desktop/laptop hardware?
>>54649091
Single thread is almost on par with a9 and SD820, multithread is much better though.
Would probably outperform my old i3, not sure about Modern hardware.
>>54649087
This, everyone falls for the flagship meme.
1gb devices with any SOC from the past few years are still capable of doing anything I need on a phone.
>>54649130
Forgot image.
It trails behind in antutu though because mediatek have weaker GPUs. It's not bad, the others are just better, the CPU is better though.
>>54649155
Then why didn't you get a Nokia 3310?
>>54649282
>nokia 3310
Why would I fall for the flagship meme?
Are you okay anon?
>>54649036
Just wait for the Surface Phone.
>>54649036
Battery should actually be pretty good since its 6000mah
>>54649155
Nope. I had a 1gb ram, mtk8735 tablet and it is already showing its age.
For starter, I can't get LTE connection out of it, which is necessary because it also doubles as a modem. The lags becomes more and more obvious and I can't properly browse 4chan with more than 5 opened tabs
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
Highly unlikely.
>>54649648
Latest 10 core ARM processors can't trade blows or beat a dual core 5 year old Intel?
Yeah, no.
>>54649687
Yeah, I doubt they can. It's hard to compare different architectures, but I doubt you'll get more FLOPS.
It doesn't matter it's 5x more cores, each of those cores has pretty low performance compared to, say, sandy bridge.
>>54649631
Nigga you what?
>>54649804
Considering the apple a9 gets pretty close to modern laptop x86, i wouldn't be surprised if this did offer similar multithread performance.
>>54649036
I have Windows 10 running on my Zenfone 2 :-)
>>54649008
>more cores = performance!
>>54650134
It's not?
Sure, the arm cores are weaker, but there are 10 of them, vs the 2 x86 cores...
>>54649158
>geekshit
I can bet that CPU performance is just being inflated by a giant SHA1 score, which has absolutely 0 real world use.
>>54650171
Wouldn't it still be a realistic comparison against other ARM chips?
>>54650185
Yeah, Samsung and Qualcomm uses the same SHA1 score cheat on Geekbench.
Apple has an inflated SHA2 score.
>>54650160
It's not.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188396-the-final-isa-showdown-is-arm-x86-or-mips-intrinsically-more-power-efficient/2
>>54649020
Yup, cellphone hardware is starting to outpace it's shitty mobile toy OSes and "apps". Started happening with the S7 Edge, really.
>>54650208
So you're saying a flagship arm core can't offer one fifth the performance of a 5 year old Intel chip?
>>54649008
>2018
>12 core snapdragon
>3.5ghz clock speed
>16gb RAM
>Run Android PajeetsPoop
>Still lags
>>54650160
The x20 in OPs image has 4 of the cores focused only on low power consumption at 1.5GHz. Only two of them run at 2.5GHz and the other 4 at 2.0GHz. I highly doubt that a big little concept gets similar performance as an I3 @3.3 GHz.
>>54650226
EPIC BRO EPIC XDDDD
>>54650171
Also here's a Geekbench breakdown.
The 8 core Exynos on the Galaxy S7 barely even matches 2 cores on a 7 year old Lenovo with a Core 2 Duo.
>>54650242
Fair enough. What about the helioX10? That's not big/little, Is it?
>>54650262
All modern chips are.
>>54650287
No it isn't.
Jezus PPL saying ARM cortex octa core @ 1.6 ghz is faster than i5 is Just act of lack in technology knowlege... Its just ARM... It is good for phones but you still cant run heavy load apps on it... My God just read about it :x this pieces of cpus are still verry slow. I would compare them to first gen i3 or less mby Intel Pentium 4? Just try to install Linux on it and try to stream at fhd with 60fps and run aby game on it. It Will be killed.
ARM is a piece of microcontroller for me. Just Google about cypress psoc.
Tell me Why even New smartphones sometimes get laggy... Its just another platform and never ever compare it to PC becouse its not PC... Its like comparing buses to pendolino train. Or smth
>>54650303
Smartphones are personal computers brah
>>54649087
they run like shit. I should know, I own one. lagdroid, never again
>>54650302
We have to wait for the x30 to see a performance focused processor from mtk. The x10 couldnt even compete with the sd801.
>>54650324
Smartphones are phones that looks like computer Ohh god dude in my post im trying to tell you that comparing it to pc's is stupid. Mby we have different look at computer... PPL years ago asking calculators as computers so...
>>54650333
which one?
My Samsung S2 still runs mostly fine.
I'm about to upgrade though, since it is almost 5 years old now.
>>54650353
Sauce?
>>54650303
No one with a minimal understanding of technology thinks mobile processor which are focused on low power consumption can compete with tower cpus.
>>54649008
>Adding more cores to get higher benchmark scores without any actual real world meaning as most apps are unoptimized pieces of shit that do simplistic tasks that can't utilize 10 cores ever.
>>54650381
Some PPL does thats sad
>>54650393
How about handling background processes?
Iirc android has 20 background processes running most of the time.
Petition to make Qualcomm, Samsung, MediaTek, Apple etc stop their progression because OP is being triggered.
>>54650458
They take a fraction of a percent even on the lowest CPU frequency.
>>54650223
You can't just multiply by the number of cores anon
>>54649008
Mobiles CPUs are still inferior to PC CPUs. Cores aren't everything.
>>54650556
It worked for AMD.
>>54649008
So this makes me wonder: if phones are as powerful as PCs, how come phones don't have fans?
>>54650089
>zenpad won't get unlocked
Still mad
>>54650223
No
Arm is fucking trash
>>54649008
Technology between the 70's and the early 200's was progressing very rapidly. There plenty of 'boom periods' in history where technology has evolved a lot over a few years, but in my opinion nothing measures to the boom of the 70's.
>>54650666
Y tho
>>54650740
>>54650740
Because it is. Fuck you.
>>54650302
It's octa-core A53, which is a LITTLE core. So that's even worse than 4x big 4x LITTLE like, say, SD810.
>>54649008
>>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
It's not
>>tfw the phone has more ram than my desktop
You can upgrade RAM on a desktop, 8GB DDR3 RAM sticks are like $30 on amazon
>I feel like technology is progressing faster than I can keep track of it.
It's really not, phones have dogshit processors like always.
>My current desktop is an i3 2120 with 4GB ddr3 ram. Makes me feel bad 2bh.
Which is way more powerful than any flagship android out there and supports x86 proframs and OSs.
Basically this is how shit ARM processors are:
4x krait 400 ARM cores @ 2.3 GHz ~= 4x atom moorefield x86 cores @ 2.3 GHz
4x atom moorefield x86 cores @ 2.3 GHz ~= 1 sandy bridge x86 core @ ~3 GHz
Anyway those "cores" on that phone cannot all be used at once. Only a cluster of 4 A53 or a cluster of 2 A72 cores can be used at the same time. So AT BEST that phone will have the multi-core performance of a single sandy bridge x86 core (the one used in your i3, which has 2 at 3.2 GHz) if it was clocked at 3GHz or maybe lower if the 2 A72 cores on that phone ran at max frequency constantly (protip: they won't). Those clusters of 4 A53 cores suck ass btw as A53 are weaker than krait 400 cores.
This is in addition to not being able to run x86 software or OSs which is what mainly makes your desktop superior. Want to encode HEVC video/ play very graphically demanding vydia? Only a desktop can do that or $2,000+ gaymen laptops.
tl;dr ARM is a piece of shit
tfw my 11 year old thinkpad never goes past 80% running flash ads and browsing anything
: /
>>54651077
>11 year old thinkpad
T43?
>>54650333
That's because you never debloated it.
>>54649158
Fuck when did mediatek get so good?
Last i checked they were slow as fuck housefires in pocket
>>54649008
there's only so much you can do on a phone
I wish they'd just make a smartphone with the specs of LG G3 but a far longer battery life, maybe fit in a better camera in there as well
but noooo, gotta make them as thin as a handkerchief and with a processor as "good" as a macbook's
This is literally me
>pc from 2005
>2gb ram, dual core 2.0 ghz, slightly better gpu
>crashes on Deep Sky Stacker
:(
>>54650303
>Jezus PPL saying ARM cortex octa core @ 1.6 ghz is faster than i5 is Just act of lack in technology knowlege... Its just ARM...
Which is RISC which is basically every x86 CPU after the K6-III
>apps
back to le redit
>.. My God just read about it :x this pieces of cpus are still verry slow. I would compare them to first gen i3 or less mby Intel Pentium 4?
Where you even born when the P4 was launched? The only worse thing than a P4 are the first Atom's
>Just try to install Linux on it
Lotsa' people have done it, some guy here was running Gentoo on his HTC HD2
>and try to stream at fhd with 60fps
They literally record at 4K@60p nowadays
They can SW decode HEVC at 1080@60p
> and run aby game on it. It Will be killed.
Any emulator runs just fine, since the 1 Ghz Krait's you could run PSPSPP perfectly fine
>>54650333
My Nexus 7 2012 scared me away from 1gb Android devices until I got a Moto G 2015 with 1gb which ran beautifully.
Turns out there's more than just the number, ASUS used shittier parts and the entire experience was degraded because of it.
>>54652706
nvidia tegra 3 is shit processor
if you got 2013 with snapdragon
you good to go for another 5 years
>>54650591
If phones had fans there would be a weird vibration when just running the damn thing. Plus with the increase in popularity of thinner phones could you really find a fan thats thin enough to put in a closed shell?
>>54652607
less than 6 months ago I was still using a single-core 1.6GHz Pentium M.
>tfw one process starts hogging the cpu and UI slows down
>>54652580
They did, minus the camera and the 1440p screen, and it's called a Redmi Note 3 Pro.
>>54650591
They really aren't, as multiple anons pointed out already. Also, mobile SOCs are designed with energy efficiency in mind, meaning they won't get nearly as hot and can be passively cooled.
>>54653415
Also this.
>>54650089
>using the smiley with a dash nose
>>54649008
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
Stupid normalfag.
>>54649008
>tfw Android will still work like shit
Modern ARMv8 cores like A72s can compete with the latest Atom chips from intel favorably, and they can trade blows with low clocked Broadwell CoreM.
They can't compete head to head with a big core.
>>54649008
Does k6000 p 9 have 4g?
>>54657592
What?
>>54657625
Does the oukitel K6000 Premium have 4g compatibility?
>>54657662
>>54657592
yes, but check willmyphonework dot net to see if it'll work with your network
>>54653040
>tfw still using tegra 2
>>54649008
Current phones getting close to those 10 years old 1Ghz Athlons
>>54650134
It is, though. Just because you're a shitty programmer who can't take advantage of it, doesn't mean it isn't good.
>>54658095
But SBCs with weak as shit specs seem to be able to run Linux distros fine?
>>54649008
All that power with such a completely shitty OS.
Whats the point.
>>54658489
Android = Linux
>>54658489
There will be a completely new generation of VR ready android phones, because of Google Daydream. 3d VR needs processing power.
>>54649008
>10 cores
For what fucking reason jesus christ you ain't going to play fucking gta 4 on that thing. Mobile cpus are garbage too, adding more cores would just drain the battery faster.
>>54649008
>10 cores
>still slower than dualcore a9
Intead of worrying about spending your money on the latest and greatest, keep using your devices until YOU feel it has become obsolete. We're at a point where our devices are still just as good and usable if they're a generation or two behind.
>>54658786
It's big.medium.little
So it should have good battery life, mediatek goes overboard with everything, their last gen processors were true 8 core. No big.little
>>54659249
It is?
>>54659346
well especially since it's big med little then of course it's going to be slower than the a9
>>54658786
This is soc we're talking about. Each core will be dedicated to processing a single task. One core for graphics, another for sound, third for gyroscope or whatever. More cores isn't inherently bad, in fact it can be more energy effcient rather than dumping everything on a general purpouse CPU that will choke like a bitch.
>>54659369
Are you sure?
>>54656330
its ironic so its okay r-right g-guys
>>54659532
No, fuck off
>>54650379
>s2 dies with half battery
does anyone even sell s2 batteries anymore? might have to upgrade now, is nexus the least worst option currently?
>>54649091
>>54649130
>I don't know what architectures are
>>54659911
Get a chinkphone. Cheaper than nexus but still stock ui.
>>54659422
yes
>Still lags
>Is still useless offline because 99% of apps require an internet connection whether it makes sense or not
>>54660714
What?
>>54660451
don't chinkphones explode and start fires?
>>54661235
So do Samsungs and iPhones last time I checked.
>>54659346
If it's MediaTek then fuck yes it will be. If it's Qualcomm or Exynos it's up in the air.
>>54662418
What's wrong with mediatek?
>>54663039
The AMD of arm
>>54663102
Is this a ROM feature or is it a xposed module?
>>54663163
Rom feature, but there's a xposed module too http://repo.xposed.info/module/tw.fatminmin.xposed.networkspeedindicator
>>54663202
Thanks.
>>54663102
What phone?
And what don't you like about it?
>>54663404
Meizu m2 note it's alright but it comes with a locked bootloader and flyme which is pretty fucking retarded the settings app is missing half the options found in vanilla android the phone is pretty good for the price got it for $110, but the rom is pretty damn awful just because of the settings app alone
>>54663462
Neat.
Mtk6753? I'm thinking of buying the k6000 pro with that SoC.
200 aud, so it's cheap as fuck compared to any other local phone that's actually usable.
Only concern is it falling apart in a couple of months, and it still being on pre-order.
>>54663481
Nah it won't there's videos online of chinks hammering nails on a 2x4 with a k6000 just keep in mind this soc is not the greatest, if you are going to use that phone as a portable shitposting machine is more than enough tho
>>54663527
That's pretty much all I want. Love that 6000mAh battery, and I'm coming from a nexus 5, which is why I want the big battery.
>>54649008
>this all because the underlying OS is bloatware
>>54663550
Still lighter than windows
>>54663569
That's a hoax that has already been scientifically disproven
>>54663583
Still smarter than you
>>54649087
it's adorable how you think this is true
arm cores are absolute trash
>>54658427
Because he's full of shit, at worst the low power ARM are comparable to C2D's
Though you could run most distros pretty fine on 1 Ghz Athlons if you had enough RAM
>>54659311
Agreed. Snapdragon 410, 1 gig ram, 1.2 quad core - don't see the need to buy better phone. It just werks.
lol Cortex A72 barely catches up to the celeron 540 from 2008 I am typing on right now (500 passmark score)
>>54663800
Pretty sure atoms are as fast as c2d, and many newer arms are faster than atom
>>54658423
>what's Amhdal's law
>>54650134
Problem?
>>54663800
lol try again faggot, ARM Cortex a72 barely catches up to n3540 in benchmarks
>>54663749
Are you brain damaged?
>>54664152
And what relevance does that have here? A N3540 isn't a 1 Ghz Athlon you retard
Or are you so new that the only CPU you know that starts with an A is the Atom's?
>>54664395
>>54663800
Athlon xp 2000+ mobility here.
No you can't.
>>54664395
what does the 1ghz athlon have to do with c2d and cortex a72? quit talking and embarassing yourself moron
Snapdragon 650's configuration is optimal
2 big cortex A72
4 small cortex A53
redmimi best phone
>>54649008
Is the k6000 pro worth it for ~210 aud?
>>54664527
The XP isn't an Athlon classic you retard, there's not even an XP that runs at 1 Ghz, the lowest they went was 1.33
>>54664545
You should learn to read sometimes or not quote people randomly and answer unrelated stuff to them
>>54664628
Isn't that just reinforcing my point?
>>54649008
>didn't get a fx8320
your own fault.
>>54649158
how fast can it encode 1080p x264 10butt?
>>54664653
No benchmarks online. Unfortunately.
>>54650208
what about arm vs intel atom mobile processors?
>>54664581
It's 180$ on aliexpress try to order from there. It's fucking great for that price.
>>54649155
Nah. My nexus 7 really struggles with 1GB RAM. When it comes close to filling it everything starts to lag as hell
>>54665082
Nexus 7 was pretty weak to begin with. Weak SoC won't run well no matter how much ram you use.
>>54649563
That would actually be really dope. Steel backing, flat bevel and a kickstand on my phone? I'm in.
>>54664857
Yeah, roughly 210aud.
Same price as a redmi 3 pro though, and they both look equally good. Fuck I suck at making decisions.
>>54664819
Didn't that chart include atom?
>>54649008
>makes me feel bad
Good goy!
>>54660714
>99% of apps require an internet connection whether it makes sense or not
What kind of meme is this?!
>>54649008
>6GB RAM
>more RAM than my desktop
You can't be serious
>>54650082
>modern x86
Most modern processors are x86-64 though, which has considerably better performace.
>>54665940
My desktop has 4Gb of RAM. Fight me faggot.
>>54649008
Sure, it;s half the price of the newest iPhone, twice, twice as fast, better specs in every way BUT the iPhone is 0.3mm thinner so it's better.
>>54665970
>twice, twice
Good god, I need to stop drinbking
>>54665940
>tfw 2gb netbook + 4gb desktop
>>54665970
Only in multi thread, but gpu is weaker.
Still way more worth it than an iPhone.
>Your CPU was slow as shit when it was new
>i3
We just shrunk the die, cut out half the instruction set, and put it in a phone.
>>54649008
desktops/laptops are still around only for legacy or nostalgia reasons so that sounds about right
>>54665184
Get the k6k pro. Battery life is the only thing that limits you nowadays.
Does anyone here actually think a modern ARM chip will outperform a modern i3? It's a joke, right?
>>54650333
>Buys cheap ass low-end phone
>hurr durr it doesn't run as smooth as an iPhone u guyz
