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Why is it so hard to do things in Linux?
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B/c ur retarded
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>>54623110
>hard
I use Linux because it's convenient and not hard at all.

Are you using Linux the wrong way (aka thinking it is Windows)?
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takes some getting used to.

after you go through it, you will wonder how you lived without it.
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>>54623110
These.
>>54623126
>>54623139
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>>54623110
Its bad learning curve, but once you get it..

>>54623171
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>>54623139
People always say this buzz phrase shit.

How the fuck do you use Linux the 'right' way then?
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>>54623139

What do you do with your computer?
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>summerfag decides to visit /g/
>sees all these threads about how great Linux is
>falls for the Arch meme
>cant install Arch for whatever reason
>"Why is linux hard"
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P. sure OP is bait, but I agree with the sentiment. Installing stuff through apt-get is more confusing than one-click .exes, and half the time I try to install something I have to resolve a fuckton of dependencies
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Linux is hard because gays love hard cocks.
Lol
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>>54623204
By using it as a NIX and not like it's Windows

>>54623220
Everyday stuff mostly, lurking, programming, listening to spotify, maybe some gaming if I feel like it. Every once in a while I need to do non-trivial stuff, but it's always so convenient to use Linux because it's so well-documented and intuitive.

For example: A couple of months ago I got a new computer, but I didn't feel like reinstalling. First I dd'd over my root partition to the new SSD. Since the new disk was smaller than my last one (SSD opposed to spinning disk), I could then change the mount point for /home and rsync my old /home partition to the new one. The new machine just worked after that. Simple as fuck.
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>>54623139
Install Nvidia Driver under Windows 7

>google "nvidia drivers windows 7"
>go to site and specify operating system
>download file
>run
>next, next, next, done
>everything works perfectly

Debian 8
from the official wiki page

>Add jessie-backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list, for example:
># jessie-backports
>deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free
>Install Linux headers for the kernel you are using. If you are using the 3.16 Linux kernel in Debian Jessie:
># apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')
>Or if you are already using a Linux kernel from jessie-backports:
># apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')
>Then we can install the package nvidia-driver.
># apt-get update
># apt-get install -t jessie-backports nvidia-driver
>DKMS will build the nvidia module for your system.
>Restart your system to enable the nouveau blacklist.

or
>1. Download the installer from nvidia site (md5 hash: e97025c351e420fa62431a1774d84f40 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.55.run)
(sha1 hash: 68b0da3ddc9599618520062f48efdd55df3f458d NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.55.run)
>2. Install the build tools and the kernel headers:
># aptitude install linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 build-essential
>3. The installer complains if X server is started, so go in runlevel 3:
# init 3
>4. Make the installer executable:
chmod u+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.55.run
>5. Run it:
./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.55.run
>6. Accept the licence
>7. Then a little warning appears about 32bit library. OK
>8. Say "Yes" to run the nvidia xconfig
>9. Reboot

Look how many random things you have to know ahead of time or look up. None of it is intuitive unless you've been doing this for a long time.
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>>54623285
One of the real dirty secrets of CS is programming is one of the easiest things you can do with a computer. I don't mean the programming itself is easy, what I mean is configuring the software to run on varying hardware is usually effortless. Users who are more focused on media have a harder time.
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>>54623350
why would you need that?
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I want to develop Android programs
>Windows
>search for a suitable ide and go to download page to download, then intall it, fix problems becasue they never just work on Windows
>go to oracla page to odwnload Java
>installer tries to install ask toolbar for fuck's sake.

>Ubuntu
sudo umake android
>Ide+libraries are downloaded and installed automatically, go grab a cofee, when i get back everythig is installed and configured, start working right away.

Stay pleb Wincucks.
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>>54623261
If you have to copy/paste lines you don't understand from random websites you found through a google search just to change your resolution there's no way I can consider this "easy".
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>>54623420
Why would I need to install Nvidia's driver? Because it's better than Nouveau.

And I am aware I could have simply installed ubuntu or mint and it would have been easier, but then I'd have Ubuntu and that comes with its own issues.
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>>54623261
That's why there is synaptic for people who need a GUI.
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>>54623406
>One of the real dirty secrets of CS is programming is one of the easiest things you can do with a computer. I don't mean the programming itself is easy, what I mean is configuring the software to run on varying hardware is usually effortless
Yes, I am aware

>Users who are more focused on media have a harder time.
Well, I don't pretend Linux is some catch-all platform. But it definitively isn't hard to use.

For the little music recording I do, I use Logic Pro on my Macbook Pro. However, as that is also a NIX system, I'm pretty comfortable on Mac too, even though some stuff is a little different.
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>>54623350
>wget <script from nvidia website>
>chmod +x <script>
>service lightdm stop
>./<script>
>accept y y yes y y /usr/local/cuda y

OH WOW THAT WAS FUCKING HARD
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>>54623425
How do you know you're getting what you need when you type sudo umake android? You had to look around for a "suitable ide" on Windows, what makes you sure you'll get the right one with umake?
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>>54623204
like a fucking operating system you sperglord
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>>54623420
>why would you need essential things like drivers for your hardware to make sure it is properly functional and is effectively utilizing available resources
That is how stupid your question sounds to non-retarded people like you. Please, consider rethinking what you are typing on this board to not look like a complete tech-illiterate mongoloid. As for now, here is a special designated place for your level of stupidity:
>>/v/
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>>54623497
>use a non retarded distro
>open software & updates program
>go to additional hardware tabl
>select the nvidia driver i want to use
>click apply
>reboot
>profit
Wow fuckign hard.
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>>54623350
>Debian 8
Let's just choose the most retarded distro out there,shill.That problem is rooted in Debian,not the rest of Linux.
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>>54623543
>implying this driver shit isn't for /v/ kiddies like yourself

nice try kiddo
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>>54623139
Unless you are developing software exclusively for UNIX systems then using GNU/Linux is stupid.
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>>54623522
Becasue Android Studio is the industry standar and that's why i got.
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>>54623497
You have to know ahead of time what all of these terms means.

>wget
>chmod
>service
>lightdm

None of these are plain english. For the most part the Windows installation is in plain terms. The only thing you need to know is driver for the initial google search.
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>>54623572
>Unless you are developing software exclusively for UNIX systems then using GNU/Linux is stupid.
Guess what, 90% of programming is not programming desktop applications.
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>>54623261
What's hard about it, anon? It's literally easier than going to some obscure ad-filled page for a .exe. just "apt-get install $PACKAGE"
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>>54623497

> pacaur -S nvidia
> reboot
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>>54623576
Okay, so you knew that ahead of time.
And now that I know that I can just type "android studio for windows" into an internet search and the first result will be this page.

https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html

Google is pretty much a package manager for Windows. But you have to know how to use because it's not all safe. That's the hard part of Windows.
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>>54623584
>None of these are plain english.
They literally are

>wget - web get
>chmod - change mode
>service - service (it's even called service on Windows too)
>lightdm - that's just the name of the service, but it is short for light(weight) display manager

Also, you don't have to install by terminal. You can just as easily go to the Nvidia website, click on the .deb or .rpm download and open that when it's done downloading. Running the script works on ALL distros though, not just on Debian-based or RPM-based ones
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>>54623284
>Anomynous
Kek
>>54623631
>Using an AUR helper
Why?
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>>54623622
What obscure ad-filled page? There are about four or five places you should be downloading programs from if you're using Windows.
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>>54623655
because i've got shit to do unlike some people
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just let the magic machine do its thing, use Windows today!
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>>54623637
Nvidia provides .run files for download these days. If you try to use that with Debian you'll have to go figure that out as well. Not really a big problem, but it's several more steps for a first-time user.
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>>54623636
>A package manager or package management system is a collection of software tools that automates the process of installing, upgrading, configuring, and removing computer programs for a computer's operating system in a consistent manner.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_manager
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>>54623636
Yeah and wait for it to download then read the installer carefully to avoid some shady search engine and toolbars, same deal with java and the Ask toolbar, it really looks like an OS made to scam people.
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>>54623657
Even then a one line apt-get is easier.
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>>54623695
>Nvidia provides .run files for download these days.
That's the script I was referring to.

> If you try to use that with Debian you'll have to go figure that out as well. Not really a big problem, but it's several more steps for a first-time user.
I already listed the steps in >>54623497
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>>54623350
Install Nvidia Driver under Ubuntu or Mint
>open the 3rd party driver program
>click on the driver you want
OH WOW SO FUCKING HARD

On ATI you need to paste a command in the terminal after installing the driver, but that's because ATI is even shittier on Linux than Windows.
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>>54623622

Most of the time I need to download something in Windows, I can find and install it without hassle. If I fuck something up during installation, the fix is usually well documented. In Ubuntu, my experience is mostly like >>54623350

There's the software center GUI deal but doing shit through the terminal probably teaches me more in the long run
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>>54623819
>my experience is mostly like
That's really only because you are using Linux the wrong way (as if it is Windows).
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>>54623819
If you install the package through the package manager you should nearly always be in good shape.
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>>54623706
And what exactly is an internet search engine if not a software tool? Or an executable wizard?
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>>54623731
Those steps are pretty obscure until you know what you're doing. The knowledge required to install under Windows is less than under Linux. That's just the way things are. Once you know what you're doing it's about the same.
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>>54623551
Are you a fucking child who can't do things for themselves?
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>>54623960
>Those steps are pretty obscure until you know what you're doing
They are listed on nvidia website FFS

>The knowledge required to install under Windows is less than under Linux
You can literally double click a file and it will ask for sudo/root password and install itself

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT REQUIRE MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN ON WINDOWS?
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>>54623786
>>open the 3rd party driver program
What are the steps involved in that? Nvidia drivers often shit the bed when installing through software center.
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>>54623988
Whether you can double click it or not depends on which distro you're running.
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>>54623786
that doesn't install the latest version though
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>>54623251

/thread

Fucking archfags!
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>>54624022
Ubuntu notifies you automatically if there are drivers available.
On Mint you just type "drivers" in the start menu. At least for Nvidia it's extremely easy.

>>54624052
Once you get the idea of PPAs you can add the nvidia ppa and the newest drivers will show up as an option.
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>>54624051
95% of all Linux installations in the entire support either Debian packages or RPMs, which is why those two are supported by Nvidia.
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>>54624074
>>54623251
Installing is never the issue with Linux. It's configuring everything after. Anybody can get a default installation up and running.
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>>54623522
because software dependencies and libraries are stored in public repositories that whatever program he's compiling references. when he runs umake it looks for them, finds them and installs them. if anything fucks up it halts and hopefully gives the user enough info to go about solving the issue
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>>54624081
Where do you download a current .deb or rpm file on Nvidia's site? Everything I'm finding is extremely old.

Software Center?
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>>54623350
>pacman -S nvidia
>wait a few seconds
>aaaaaaand we're done

Such hard.
Much difficult.
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>>54624154
Don't you have to add the repository first?
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>>54624196
In Arch? No. Already in main repo.
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>>54624140
>Where do you download a current .deb or rpm file on Nvidia's site?
On their website

>Everything I'm finding is extremely old.
wtf? You literally get the newest version of their Linux driver from their website.
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>>54624223
If you go through the standard driver pages you'll get a .run file.
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>>54624154
>It worked fine for me when I did it, nobody could ever possibly have problems!
It took me 4 hours of constant searching and different methods to get xorg to work with a basic intel driver.
This is the problem with a patchwork operating system, if it works then great. If it doesnt, you're absolutely fucked and nobody is going to admit there's a problem because W-WELL IT WORKED FINE F-FOR ME! S-SHUT UP MICRODRONE!
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>>54624255
And over here in Archland, it's

>pacman -S xorg-server nvidia
>wait a few moments
>aaaaaaaand we're done

I'm sorry your Gadzooks/Looney experience was soured by an unusable distro.
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>>54624241
Methinks you can double click that

Anyway: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

>>54624255
>it took me four hours to get something that works OOTB to work
wew lad
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>>54623350
>use a distribution not meant for server
>since you need proprietary shit use a distribution that provide those packages by default unlike debian
>most of those distribution will come with the proprietary drivers already installed

I'm sorry but you're just stupid and use the wrong distribution.
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>>54624255
>admit there's a problem
I admit there is a problem.

It exists between the keyboard and the chair.
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I haven't had to read a tutorial to install a program under Windows in a decade.

Any time I try to install something under Debian or Fedora I am spending half an hour reading guides and tutorials, or fucking around reading forum threads. Or I come here and ask in the /sqt/ or Linux threads and get meme answers.

Why is it like this? Because Linux is not a desktop OS and I am not a System Admin or programmer and it has no need to cater to the sort of things I do.
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>installing program in windows/macos in 90s
>download executable
>run and install executable
>done

>installing program in loonix in 2016
>>54623350

>freetards will defend this
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>>54624280
I repeat my previous statement.

>>54624296
I repeat my previous statement.

>>54624316
I repeat my previous statement.

When it works, it's great.
When it doesn't, THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY HAPPEN THIS IS PERFECTION THERE'S NO WAY A PROBLEM CAN ARISE YOU'RE JUST AN IDIOT
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>>54624307
If you're going to use Ubuntu you might as well just use Windows and save yourself some trouble.
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>>54624335
>I've used Windows for over a decade, I know its ins and outs
>I'm completely new to Linux, how come I need to read about it to understand it?

You answered your own question.
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>>54624335
>in a decade.
you answered your own question anon
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>>54624352
DESU you are an idiot. It's not Linux' fault that you can't use it.

Face it, you're about as computer illiterate as your grandmother when it comes to Linux. That's nobody's fault but your own.
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>>54624335
Why are you having such difficulty using a package manager? Either type in what you want into a terminal or click the shiny button and let it do the rest. This isn't exactly rocket science, and doesn't require any guides or tutorials.

>>54624352
>THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY HAPPEN THIS IS PERFECTION THERE'S NO WAY A PROBLEM CAN ARISE YOU'RE JUST AN IDIOT
The thing is that any problems you might be running into are completely trivial and easily correctable by anyone who actually understands what they're doing. This would explain most of the replies you're getting.
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>>54624296
The OOTB driver included with most of the distros I've tried is limited to VGA, SVGA, and XGA. Everything else you have to set up a custom modeline with xrandr (and it doesn't work half the time). That is not acceptable.
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>>54624368
Windows/OSX veterans can make the switch to the other and be familiar and up to speed within an hour.

You need to spend a lifetime to get everything in loonix.
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>>54624140
>Where do you download a current .deb or rpm file on Nvidia's site?
I don't think they host .deb-s on their website. You could download the .deb from the nvidia ppa, but why would you do that?
It's not Windows, it doesn't have to work like Windows.
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>>54623110
It's not? Unless you're a guy who's never used computers before, linux is a walk in the park.
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>>54624368
Been tinkering with Linux off and on for the same amount of time, anon.

Things used to be easier. 2010-ish seemed like Linux on the desktop was really going to be there, but it has regressed.
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>>54624391
>That is not acceptable
Yet, you accepted to it when you started using Linux.

It is provided "as is".

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
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>>54624406
That's untrue. I can't use Windows for shit, but I use Linux and OS X on a daily basis.

OS X and Linux are both fairly similar, both being NIXes. Windows, on the other hand, is a clusterfuck of arbitrary design decisions accumulated over a period 20 years.
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>>54624426
Maybe to use as a facebook machine. Ironically it is better at this task than Windows.
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>>54623261
>install opensuse
>google opera for linux.
>find ftp.redhat.org/index of/browsers
>download
>click
>unresolved dependencies
>linux sucks...back to windows
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>>54624433
>Been tinkering with Linux off and on for the same amount of time, anon.
Well, obviously you haven't picked up on anything.

>Things used to be easier. 2010-ish seemed like Linux on the desktop was really going to be there, but it has regressed.
This confirms my previous statement. Things are generally working a lot better now, in 2010 there were all sorts of problems with UEFI, AHCI, buggy Intel NIC drivers, etc. I'm glad the 2.6 branch of the kernel is long gone.
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>ITT Pajeet angry at Linux becasue they failed at Linux sys admin 101.
Good luck scaming old people.
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>mfw X shat itself
year of the linux desktop: never
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>>54624505
In 2010 it felt like those issues were more well documented. The wikis were up to date. The issues with the NIC drivers had good forum threads with all the information to resolve it there.

It's more scarce now, and the information you find is harder to follow or seems to rely more on hacks.
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>>54624406
I've been using Windows since 3.11, I've been trough all the changes Windows has gone trough. And I fucking hate OS X, I cannot stand it, but hey it's the easiest OS to install software in.
Everything about the OS X UI feels like it was designed ass backwards, or different for the sake of being different, I've had a much easier time getting used to Cinnamon (doesn't really matter on which distro), which felt like a straight upgrade over Windows' UI.
But DEs like Gnome 3 and Unity are fucking awful and I can see why someone coming from Windows will be disgusted, perhaps people coming from OS X will find them easier to use.
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>>54624462

You can do reasonably well with OS X without ever having to touch the terminal
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>>54624433
>but it has regressed.
If you say so, personally I don't miss having problems with my audio, wireless network, V Sync, etc.
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>>54624493
What are you talking about lad? I do a lot of things on my linux machine, internet doesn't even scratch the surface. If you installed gentoo or arch as your first distro then maybe that's why you're having a hard time.
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>>54624603
I don't know what to say other than you being completely mistaken.

As someone who has used Linux since 2002, I can say that not only has the viability of running Linux as your daily driver increased significantly, but the increasing userbase has also led to significantly improved tutorials, documentation and general support and help from the community.

>>54624635
>Everything about the OS X UI feels like it was designed ass backwards, or different for the sake of being different
This rustles my jimmies. It was never designed to be a Windows, most of this UI has a long tradition back to the first Macintosh days. Long before there were any Windows around.

As for Gnome 3, that shit is designed to work for both tablets and computers.
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>>54624692
But you can do even better if you do.

I mean, some of the Apple BSD-like utils are like porn to use.
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>>54624699
>audio
Oh shit, I forgot the whole PulseAudio vs ALSA thing. I must have supressed it.

Yeah, that was really hell. I'm >>54624505, I remember all the struggles with UEFI and also AHCI stuff.
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>>54624703
Unpopular opinion, but I did install Arch as my first Linux distro and I don't regret it. It forced me to actually learn about my system and Linux in order to fix all the shit I fucked up. 10/10 would do again.
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>>54624711
>most of this UI has a long tradition back to the first Macintosh days
Trying to keep the layout superficially similar to an OS from 1984 is merely ego stroking.
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>>54624865
>Trying to keep the layout superficially similar to an OS from 1984 is merely ego stroking.
Microsoft is doing the exact same thing.

They tried to change things up with Windows 8, but guess what, users hated it and demanded the "traditional" look and feel back again.
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>>54623110
It helps to weed out the feeble.
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>>54624887
Well, Microsoft literally has UI elements from 1995 in modern windows because they never bothered to overhaul the entire UI.
But it's some of the various Linux DE-s that have great ideas in them these days.
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>>54624985
>Well, Microsoft literally has UI elements from 1995
You need to go further back in time too. It has UI elements that stems from Windows 2.0

Most of the keyboard shortcuts and double clicking title bar to maximize, double clicking icon to close etc, comes from 2.0 / 3.xx
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>>54623110
Because you have a vagina
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>>54624580
>>mfw X shat itself
>mfw you have no idea what that actually means
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>>54625022
Yes, the active part in the top left of the window title bar is from Windows 2.0 I think, it's not a copy of OS X as I've seen some mac fags claim.

Here's Windows 10, with the media player from Vista, the new Settings menu, the Control Panel from Vista that has items like the power options opening in the same page, and the old items like Mouse opening in another window with tabs, which is exactly the same as in Windows 95.
But of course Windows 10 also has another music player, video player, picture viewer, IE and Edge etc. etc.

Compare this to KDE 5 even and it's laughable how unprofessional it is.
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>>54624711
Macintosh - 1984
Windows 1.0 - 1985
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>>54625488
This is the first Windows (really not an OS, just a shell for MS-DOS).
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>>54625509
And here's the first Mac OS
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This is why tryhard basement spergs ruin linux, newcomers think they have to use some obscure timesink. Rarely see this for ubuntu/fedora/mint, it's always installing some timesink or server nothing base install distro that was ironically recommended by some faggot piece of shit secretly hoping that he'd end up hating it to protect the secret club.

noticed the major problem was the nvidia driver.
Ubuntu/fedora/mint = one click in hardware drivers or its package manager which has the proprietary driver in it because it isn't a freetard turd burger and it respects your time. Following this there's actual modern software in their repos and the "solution" isn't just to say to use some 80s piece of shit and effectively just say "drop all your friends and contacts and be a basement loser like me".

Hopefully OP you will give it a second chance and understand these losers are out there that are only ironically recommending you this shit in the hopes that you say "LINUX IS ONLY FOR CS DROPOUTS" because they actually think holding that title is a positive thing
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>>54624703
I meant in the sense you can do a Ubuntu install in about 15 minutes and hand it off to your grandma and it will be pretty much bulletproof.
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>>54623251
You mean the "arch is great" or the "arch is shit" meme? We have both now.
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>>54625576
>This is why tryhard basement spergs ruin linux, newcomers think they have to use some obscure timesink.
>nothing base install distro that was ironically recommended by some faggot piece of shit secretly hoping that he'd end up hating it to protect the secret club.
>use some 80s piece of shit and effectively just say "drop all your friends and contacts and be a basement loser like me".
>Hopefully OP you will give it a second chance and understand these losers are out there that are only ironically recommending you this shit in the hopes that you say "LINUX IS ONLY FOR CS DROPOUTS" because they actually think holding that title is a positive thing

Not even sure why I spent time picking those things out when I could have just quoted the entire post.

I'm not sure if this is projection or baseless speculation and generalization but it's quite clear you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Don't make another post like this until you've actually been here for more than a god damn week and/or you've realized that /g/ is not one person. You made yourself look like a serious idiot and I don't think you want to do that again.
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>>54625278
I will admit the placement of mouse properties in Windows since 7 is illogical and awful. Getting to the UI performance menu is similarly convoluted.
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>>54625576
What's the big advantage of using Linux as a desktop OS if you're not a freetard?

Security? Performance? Security I can see. Performance on a desktop I am not.
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>>54625835
>Performance on a desktop I am not.
Of course you're not Performance on a Dekstop, who would name their kid like that?
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>>54625865
>Security I can see. Performance on a desktop I am not (seeing).
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>>54625835
- Some DEs are genuinely nicer to use than Windows.
I actually enjoy using it.
- Your computer is yours, not Microsoft or Apple's
The OS is not an ad revenue subsidized, remotely controlled service that collects all of your (meta)data
- Isn't vulnerable to most malware.
Self explanatory
- You can set it up for your parents once and it will just work for years
Unlike Windows which degrades and breaks in the hands of people who aren't computer enthusiasts.
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>>54623350
if you think that's bad, check out fedora's nvidia installation instructions: https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/
freetards xD
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>>54623204
I set things up one time and it keeps working that way for the rest of eternity unlike on Windows where I have to relearn some new paradigm every 3 years because grandma isn't buying enough apps to make pajeet happy
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>>54623110
It's only hard if you're a fucking retard.
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>>54623695
a first time user won't be installing the drivers from a .run file
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>>54623350
It's perfectly intuitive if you are familiar with linux but you aren't
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Linux distros are perfect for people that don't know anything about computers, they are perfect for people that know a lot bout computers, they are absolute fucking cancer for people that THINK they know a lot about computers but actually do not
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because you use the terminal as a first resort
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There's a lot of configuration to get eveything just right
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>>54623110
cuz ur extremely dumb lmao
got eem
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>>54624351
>installing program in windows/macos in 90s
>download executable
>run and install executable
>system get fucked up

>do something suspicious in loonix
>Permission denied
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>>54623350
>VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" in make.conf
>emerge -av nvidia-drivers
>eselect opengl set nvidia

but no, better install it manually from source, despite emerge installing it from source too.
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>>54624052
>uses a distro specifically made for servers, with a package release system specifically designed around having the most stable and least recent drivers that will still function
>"why is running linux bleeding edge so hard :("

literally install a better distro
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>>54624154
Yeah that installs the package, you still have to configure shit after you install it
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>>54624389
I don't know what to type in the terminal. I've never sat down and learned bash. That's a hurdle I suppose I should get over, but I also consider a big reason why people say Linux is hard. I only know a few commands, everything else is copy/pasted from the internet.

Often there isn't a shiny button to fix a problem I'm having. And if there is one it usually doesn't work the way I want it to, if it works at all.
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>>54623110
I try to take the path of least resistance in with Linux.

Linux is not for gayming. Don't install it with this in mind.

Linux is not good for multi-media. Don't expect great performance there either.

What does this mean? Forget Nvidia or AMD drivers, just use the open source ones. They're good enough.

Internet video isn't working well? Well too fucking bad. Use a download site and watch it in a video player if you really want to see it, or stick to 360p youtube.

You're supposed to be doing something -important-, not fussing around with these childish pursuits. You should be doing Real Work™. Get to it. Whatever it is..some kind of programming or server shit or something, idk.
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>>54623350
emerge nvidia-drivers
This is what you get for not installing gentoo
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>>54623110
Because you shouldn't be using Linux. Go get a Mac. Try not to be a faggot about it though. Don't parade it around acting like you're hot shit.
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>>54628270
>What does this mean? Forget Nvidia or AMD drivers, just use the open source ones. They're good enough.
The Nvidia drivers work quite well.
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I use Arch simply because it is the best Linux based distro to date.

It allows me to complete all my work with maximum efficiency.
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>computer freezes
>reset
>rainlendar preferences are all erased

I never had this issue with Windows.
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