>French billionaire found a 100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley
>don't care about SAT
>free dorms
>open 24/7
>People older than 30 need not apply
http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/17/coding-school-42-plans-to-educate-10000-students-in-silicon-valley-for-free/
Oldfags are so jelly on hackernews and reddit
>>54612754
fund*
>>54612754
>And it starts with a brand new 200,000 square foot building in Fremont opened 24/7 with thousands of iMacs.
And dropped.
>>54612777
They have keyboards, a screen and support a text editor, don't they ?
>more likely to do the work
>less likely to drop out because they need to "find themselves"
>more likely to be cooperative and work in teams
>has a better understanding of how to act in a professional environment
>still shit on by the industry
Piss off youngfag pieces of shit fuck you.
I'll be glad when this school inevitably goes bankrupt from all the shitty dropout fucks
>42 team has created a computer science version of the Hunger Games. They call it the swimming pool because they want to see if you can swim by throwing you into the figurative pool. You and 1,000 others students face the same coding and logic challenges.
Fucking racist.
>>54612822
If you're 30+ you should already have a career or two.
>>54612804
/g/ is the most religious board
>>54612840
this.
>>54612833
Columbia requires graduates to pass a swim test.
>>54612857
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-11172054
RACIS
>>54612839
Maybe you want to change.
>>54612754
So how does he make money out of this?
I wonder if they're open to international applicants. It's not really viable because you have to travel to California and may not even get in, but it would be interesting.
>>54612911
He don't. It's philanthropy.
>>54612925
>I wonder if they're open to international applicants.
Nope. You need to be an American citizen, national, or a permanent resident, but the French school in Paris is open to anybody in the European Union and it's basically the same thing.
>>54612833
This is an actual practice at the epita (One of the better french programming schools) where for a month straight you have programming challenges every day and if you fail any of them you can't pass, it's pretty hard core, ( writing your own malloc, your own linux shell ), got a few friends doing that atm.
>>54612926
>I want to help people, better build a school in the most expensive place possible with the most expensive systems possible
Is he a dumbass too?
>>54612911
You will mutate into pajeet at the end.
>>54612957
He wants to make "the school of the future" it's a pet/vanity project for him.
Top code monkey school right there, you won't learn any math but I guess it's good for people who can't into uni.
>>54612911
Open programming to everyone so you can lower the wages
>>54612946
Ah. so much for 'only one requirement'.
Do you know what the language of instruction is in the Parisian campus? If it was English I'd be tempted, but knowing the French, I strongly suspect that it's not.
>>54612957
He assumes SV would have the best, most talented programmers. The college is in position for immediate recruitment too.
>>54612977
The French school is hardcore. You have to follow the MIT CS101 in only 6 months. You don't end up code monkeys after 5 years of that shit.
>>54612996
Here's a french report about the school, I guess you can get infos from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OyvOIzxyMQ
>>54612996
The language of instruction in the French school in Paris is French.
>>54613006
I'm french, it's not hard core at all. It's all about programming, how you don't end up software engineer after that ?
Hardcore is more about ENS, X...
>>54613046
It's pretty common for European universities to conduct some courses in English, especially specialist places like this.
>>54613029
All I needed to see desu.
Everyone looks greasy as fuck too, that place must stink to high heaven.
>>54613081
It's not an university at all, you won't even get a diploma from here
>>54612754
>French billionaire found a 100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley
Geez, what a lucky find.
He didn't even have to pay for it, he just stumbled across one
>>54613088
What did you expect from high school drop out nerds in a free coding school?
>>54613088
In France Uni is free (and if you are really poor you are actually paid up to 500€ / month to attend), but you still need Baccalauréat.
So people from 42 are usually greasy highschool dropouts geeks
>>54613101
>>54613124
I just don't get how how they don't shower, surely they must feel dirty, what the fug.
I do CS in Uni, I'm EU also so it's (mostly) free, and apart from the token autist, at least everyone in my class looks clean.
>>54612911
Americans only think about what's in it for them.
>>54613159
They live in the school, but there are no bedrooms there, they just sleep on the fucking floor. I guess there are no showers too, or too few...
>>54613005
>I want to teach people to code, better go to the place with the most people who know how to code.
???
>>54613170
Is that even safe by EU health and hygiene standards?
>>54612911
Sponsored by large companies.
>>54612777
trips are correct
also
>Fremont
>>54612754
>Oldfags are so jelly on hackernews and reddit
Why? We're the ones who've already made the money and are paying for stuff like this. Where do you think all that sweet angel & VC money comes from? The over-30's who've already done it and made their money.
>>54612822
>>has a better understanding of how to act in a professional environment
>youngfags
What.
>>54612822
Its a fucking school, older people are less willing to learn
>tfw not smart enough to make it on purely intelligence test
DAS RACIST
Honestly though, what do you think the race ratio will be for the school? 60% asian, 40% white?
>>54612754
Nothing new in France.
In this country school is free, university is free. Only private schools aren't.
If you want a room near your university you can get a lot of helps from the state according how many earn your parents.
They gave me 450€ per month, my room costed me 350. I had 100€ left to buy food for the month.
School was also free, and all the sports on the campus cost 10€.
And the swimming pool is made on a lot of private school in France. The best CS school I know in France is Epita. Those guys have a swimming pool that last for 2 years. Then all their projects are made under linux, coding in C and ASM. They recreate a shell, bash, a kernel, and according what they choose, they can study computer security or anything they want.
Of course they still learn things like C#, C++, java etc. but mostly by themselves.
I'm glad I never fell for the programming meme, mainly because I could never figure it out.
I'm sure if I tried and took a class I could churn out pajeet tier code.
>>54613594
>In this country school is free, university is free. Only private schools aren't.
The government, aka you, pay for it with taxes. It's hilarious that people get "free" education in a government-sponsored school where they get fed a bunch of propaganda. It's basically a way for the government to force (public) schools to feed young students whatever shit they want to.
>>54613634
I'm a student so I don't pay taxes, the workers pay for me. There is no trick
>>54612911
In France I heard they were teaching things that the companies needed, so once a student have finish those 5 years, he will fit perfectly for the companies sponsoring the school. They will taught you everything so you can get a job.
>>54613655
>I'm a student so I don't pay taxes
You will, and everyone who works does too. Fucking retard, it's like you don't think past "now."
>>54612996
If you go to France, I don't know which country you come from, but you can learn it easily. Once you live on a country and have to do things by yourself, you'll learn quickly.
I worked with an italian scientist that came 6 month in Paris. All the french scientists didn't want to talk in english and told her : "you're gonna learn french, trust me."
In 4 weeks she could follow a french discussion and after 2 month she had a perfect french.
If you ever look at studying in France, there is a lot of helps from the state to student. They'll give you a room and money
>>54612951
epita is average at best desu senpai
>>54613170
>>54613159
In schools like those, there's not necessary bedrooms, but there is showers. The thing is that on some schools where they practice the swimming pool, you clearly don't have time to nothing. They give you things that can't be done in time. The unique way to complete the tasks is to sleep on the school and spend has many time as possible coding
>>54612754
Age discrimination lawsuit.
OLd ppl are can't learn good and should get in their box already
>>54613634
The thing is that in the USA and in France, mentalities aren't the same, and you just have to deal with it.
In France, whatever where you come from, whatever your social position, the money you got, education is a right and an obligation till your 16 y-o.
You'll not understand that we agree paying taxes and then get a lot of stuff for free and never have to take a loan.
On the other side, we don't understand that you'll have to pay thousands of buck for something that should be free.
>>54613781
>something that should be free
It's NOT free though. It's like the berniefaggots that talk about free education, but ignore the 1k USD/year tax increase that they would get. You end up paying more over your working life on "tuition" than I do when I pay it manually.
>>54613767
>learn good
Good is an adjective while well is an adverb answering the question how.
t. over 30 :^)
>>54613699
It's much easier for speakers of Latin based languages to learn other Latin based languages than it is for anyone else. For example, nouns are not gendered in English, so that alone is a huge hurdle for learning the language. As a Canadian, I had basic French classes for six years and I only have a loose grasp on the language (and nevermind that you probably think our French is an abomination)
>>54613781
>should be free
No one's labor is free, not even teachers. That's called slavery. The state doesn't provide things out of thin air, it uses tax revenues to pay for your entitlements; even when it does so on credit and is selling the efforts of future generations.
>>54613799
The difference is that rich citizens are forced to contribute a far larger share to the socialized education system. The wealth is redistributed from the top to the bottom in the form of education.
>>54613799
Nothings free you mongoloid, he's just saying tuition in France is free for students
Why even argue when you can just compare the success of each system?
Fact
America is #1 in Mathematics
America is #1 in Chemistry
America is #1 in Physics
America is #1 in Computer Science
America is #1 in Engineering
>>54613799
Paying more over a much longer period is actually a better way to do things, so long as it's done responsibly. Most people can't afford to pay for school out of pocket and must take loans, at which point their finances are completely at the mercy of banking institutions that will take their money, whatever amount it is, even if it leaves the borrower destitute. When was the last time the government raised your taxes so high that they just decided to take your house instead?
I see so many people wildly opposed to socialized education, medicine, services etc.... But it confuses me because they'll talk about using money wisely and stuff... Tell me: what better way to use your money than to invest in people?
>>54612951
>Epita
>one of the best
Mais bien sûr
>>54613799
>>54613824
>>54613781
Are you retards implying that USA doesn't use tax subsidized education? Higher Education uses tax subsidized grants,G.I Bills, or student loans. All Public Schools are tax subsidized as well.
>>54613871
>Implying this dick waving contest matters.
Meanwhile America Corporation still outsource their STEM degrees in India/China/Eastern European for lower wages.
>>54613881
>Paying more over a much longer period is actually a better way to do things
What. You pay MORE. How the fuck is that better? It's like the cell phone plans (get a FREE iphone with this 80 dollar a month 2 year contract) instead of buying it for 400 and paying 30 a month with a cheaper provider.
>>54613937
It's subsidized, but not to the point of FREE.
As if the world needed more "coders".
>>54614013
>As if the world needed more "coders".
It needs better coders.
As old fart I'm tired of fixing young shits mistakes which are almost always the same mistakes I made when I was a young shit.
>>54613910
I've been there, management be all like EPITA NUMBER ONE FUCK YEAH. But it's really a code monkey school with a decent research lab that almost none of the students ever interact with.
>>54612804
still a massive waste of money
I don't trust a man who can't make simple decisions like that with my education
I'm 30. Should I move there?
>>54612754
Just applied to this, anyone knows what to expect from the "games"
Maths? Logic? specific languages?
>>54612754
>coding school
Cancerous
Also, there are many European countries with free universities.
I'm a student from that school in Paris.
Ask me anything.
>>54615302
Not from the start, you'll do the pool (the selection contest) in C, the hardest thing you'll do are red/black binary trees.
If it's your first time programming, expect to work at least 15 hours per day.
>>54613667
Sounds shitty.
>>54613966
Because making long term payments that are based on how much you make is vastly different from making long term payments that are based on debt and interest rates. I thought that was obvious; it should be obvious to anyone who manages their own money. In the past 30 years, mortgage interest rates have skyrocketed multiple times, forcing people to give up their homes. The most memorable one was due to gross mismanagement by financial institutions and you believe that students, who are financially vulnerable to begin with, should endebt themselves to those institutions? I'm sorry, but that's stupid. Given the situation in America, the government really has no choice but to step up. In a very short time, most bottom level jobs in America are going to be supplanted by robots and AI and if the citizens don't have ready access to education or training necessary to do different jobs, the entire American economy will implode. Strategies that involve "bringing manufacturing back to America" (whatever that even looks like) won't work, because American labour can't compete with globalized labour, and those jobs, too, are going to be automated anyway.
This isn't even a question of whether you believe in handouts anymore. It's a question of whether or not you want America to remain economically relevant in the global economy.
>Americucks shitting on free education.
>>54615459
Is that why they're still stuck with imperial units and a majority believing that angels are real?
>>54615396
>In the past 30 years, mortgage interest rates have skyrocketed multiple times, forcing people to give up their homes
And if they straight out bought a house they wouldn't have that issue.
>students, who are financially vulnerable to begin with, should endebt themselves to those institutions
Students wouldn't be having this issue if the whole "traditional family" didn't drop out of style. My parents paid for my college and I paid them back, I didn't have any debt to external entities at any time.
>>54615472
Dude, cut that out. You want "muh moon" peeps chiming in?
>>54612822
>I'll be glad when this school inevitably goes bankrupt
It's been there in France for three years and keeps attracting big personalities from google, the NASA, facebook, Apple, etc...
>>54612833
It wasn't created by 42, it was taken from another french private school, EPITECH, whose old director works at 42.
Also, faggots from private school who read this always go mad at "hurr they ripped off us", but they have literally no idea how the school is after you're in.
>>54612911
By getting reputed, the school can provide better quality programmers than your average CS student that studied java for the sole purpose of having an expensive piece of toilet paper to put on their resume.
Also in france, it's getting a lot of partnership with other schools and government programs.
>>54613667
It's funny, but actually a quite high percentage of students at 42 won't finish it, they will either get hired with a very interesting salary or launch their own startup.
>>54613159
I've met only 3 or 4 high school drop outs, and they were highly profficient. Most of the others have a diploma from higher education, and some even have masters in maths.
Also, a few are still doing their studies at a uni *while* doing 42 because they're very flexible on how you can progress.
>>54613081
Some of the project subjects are written in english, and video lessons are progressively being subbed in english. We have a few exchange students here in Paris.
>>54613091
You do get one, but it's not recognized by the state.
>>54612977
No one forces you to do math but if you don't on your own you'll quickly hit a wall in your progress.
cont
>>54612754
If you're 30 with no education, you kinda sorta wasted your life and there's no point in trying to catch up, so it's understandable.
So as a 26 year old with no real skills, is it a bad idea for me to start learning to program now?
t. not very good at math either
>>54615485
May I ask how much did your university cost? Because your post seems to imply that they are cheap since most families will probably not be able to give $39k out of the blue.
>And if they straight out bought a house they wouldn't have that issue.
Buying a house is not cheap.
>>54615543
It is never a bad idea to learn programming.
>Fremont
>Silicon Valley
Pick one
>>54615556
I only want to do it if it's going to pay off. If I can't get decent employment, then my only option is to go out and start my own business/SaaS, but that requires a brilliant idea and a whole lot of other talents
>>54613170
They do, only for the duration of the entry exams, the rest of the year no one is allowed to stay there to sleep.
Showers are always accessible tho, and I don't know why, but people actually take showers here.
>>54613391
Here in France it's mostly white, I don't know obviously how it will be in the states.
>>54613594
42 has all of this, plus OCaml, Haskell, and student can submit their own subject for projects.
>>54615543
When I was taking the exam I worked with a 28 years old man who used to be a cashier. For some reason he was pretty good at recursives while most of the people that never programmed before just had a hard time figuring it out.
>>54615536
I disagree. When you're 18 you know fuckall about the world, you get shoved into choosing a career that will define your whole life at a time that you're completely clueless and all you want to do is fuck around. 30 would be a much sensible age to actually choose a life path, you've tried more stuff and are more aware of the world in general, thus meaning a better choice. People live up to a hundred nowadays, calling 30 "too late" is kind of silly.
>>54615552
>university cost
It was about 40k for a 4 year degree. That's 10k a year. If your family can't afford that then you're going to get fucked with loans, but if you get a good major that won't matter anyways.
>Buying a house is not cheap.
Then you shouldn't get your own fucking house. This "everyone needs their own house" meem is fucking retarded.
>>54615580
It will pay off even if you're not getting paid to program.
I program for hobby and essentially a neet. I write my own programs for my neet needs. Tools to enhance my anime, games, browsing needs.
>>54615656
>getting better anime
>paying off
Dude...
>>54615618
Why did you even reply to that underage retard?
>>54615618
Also more and more people have to change careers midway through life or at least keep learning new skills to keep a job.
It's not like back in the old days when you just went to school for something, got a job with a big company and just worked there until you retired.
This is especially true in the tech sector where things can change fast and most people wind up floating around between companies and working contracts.
>>54615618
Truth. I found out what I really want after I fucked up my first and only attempt, because it was wrong.
>>54615536
This
Be honest, who will apply?
I will
>>54615793
Why? It's really shitty and not acknowledged at all. Either go to an actual uni or learn by yourself.
>>54615810
I'll be out of college by the time it's finished
It looks like it might be fun
>>54615340
Have no experience in C so I will study next 48 hours non stop, something I should prepare?
How is the experience?
Tell me anything you want to say, I'd like to hear.
Thank you very much
>>54613715
That's what I said, one of the better schools in France.
>>54615844
This, why people don't value a experience like this?
Do you know how much says about you engaging in something like this, in this specific industry?
>>54615910
I was at EPITA, where the concept for this school comes from. I suggest you learn some C and focus on pointers, allocations, memory management and get familiar with clang asan plugin since they will test for memory leaks.
If it's similar to what we had, algorithms will be described and explained and implementing an algorithm is usually easy.
>>54612754
>iMacs
>California
>10,000 students
>SATs not necessary
>muh hunger games
Might as well just name it Poo, India.
>>54616080
>EPITA
It's a code monkey factory.
>>54616139
Yes it is, that's why I left and went to get a real Master's degree. I've worked with other EPITA alumni who actually went through it and they also agree with that statement.
However, I think a code monkey factory is a good idea for the kind of people that 42 targets. It's pretty much a better code boot camp.
>>54616183
If a school has to program me to be a logical compiler for readable code, so be it. We are the humans of the future.
Where can I read some butthurt?
>>54616010
No it's absolutely not
>>54615485
>if they straight out bought a house
>missing the point
That's was only meant to illustrate the volatile nature of debt. My point is that risk like that shouldn't be relegated to the most vulnerable portion of the population.
>my parents paid for my school
Right, but people born to deadbeat parents aren't deserving of the same opportunities you were afforded, you gleaming golden god, you.
>b-b-but I paid my parents back!
Yeah, and given an education, individuals would reimburse the government in the form of taxes.
You're a fucking asshole and an imbecile. Piss off.
>>54613124
>Baccalauréat
It that like the International Baccalaureate shit I took in high school here in the US? Cuz at least I passed that.
>>54612911
lower wages
>>54616734
>>my parents paid for my school
>Right, but people born to deadbeat parents aren't deserving of the same opportunities you were afforded, you gleaming golden god, you.
>>b-b-but I paid my parents back!
>Yeah, and given an education, individuals would reimburse the government in the form of taxes.
People can get government assistance and pay it off. They're called student loans. Literally any retard can get them, and people get them and get some useless fuck degree and then bitch about how much money they owe the government. Why should other people have to foot the bill for a 'chance' that the students will end up paying it back?
>coding school in Silicon Valley
So JavaScript and MongoDB, then.
Why does the new "coder" gen hate the old one?
European with an above average income here.
It doesn't bother me one bit to pay for the education of my fellow countrymen.
Why is this so unthinkable for Americans?
>>54617313
we're not cuckolds
>>54617313
Yeah and you're paying for those "refugee" too
Cuck
>>54612804
So does a machine costing 1/5 of what an iMac does.
And it could be running free-as-in-freedom software, as well.
Or it could run locked-down winblows.
They all do the job just as well.
But the issue is, thisn't isn't a "coding school" for "free education" to better mankind and have someone turn out the next Windows/OSX/Cisco IOS/Software actually important to the world. No. This is going to end up being a school that basically says: "Hey, here's how to make a meme button app for your iPhone. Isn't coding great???? LOL XD SWAG" all day, and cranks out incompetent coders who think they need to make start ups for their "Genius app idea" to "let you know about memes as they develop!" and can't fit into real coding jobs where you're shitting out perl scripts in a basement co-location to make sure the one JBOD nobody wants to replace, that you're responsible for somehow, doesn't shit the bed or amending someone's badly written .Net installer for an obscure piece of medical imagery software the company that hired you licensed from the VA.
>>54617365
In Europe you can get free uni and then just go live in the US so you'll never repay anything back. More bull than cuck
>>54616987
Because they're better programmers.
>>54617313
You haven't met our fellow countrymen.
>>54615263
He's a billionaire, man. He wants to spoil his students.
>>54612754
>And it starts with a brand new 200,000 square foot building in Fremont opened 24/7 with thousands of iMacs.
Lol fuck off mac fags
>>54612754
>free school
It's not free if you have to live in silicon valley, the rent is stupid expensive there.
>>54617425
something important to the world like windows?
>>54615536
I have an education, but I don't want to work as a clerk anymore. I should be able to switch fields if I can do the job.
>>54617691
It isn't like It's only the rent that's stupid expensive there either.
>>54617821
Something important to the world like UNIX
If windows never existed, where would we be? Using UNIX, a better OS that just isn't as popular due to MS business tactics. What are people who actually need computers using? UNIX.
If UNIX never existed we would be using a single tasking piece of shit. Or, god forbid, multics and lisp machines.
>>54618121
Jesus how young are you? literally nobody was using Unix on home computers.
>windows never existed, where would we be? Using UNIX
Try RISC or Amiga.
>>54612754
Did the test today. and it was fun. I guess I passed.
>pic related
>>54613594
>In this country school is free, university is free
Only if you're poor, and then you get money for being the subhuman you are even if you pass with a 12.
uni != shitcoding festival
>>54619116
congrats anon
>>54612754
>100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley
whats the point.
if you can afford to live there you dont really need free education.
>>54621151
Thanks I got appointment in Paris next month. Sadly I'm coming from a very poor background, so there is no chance to get there unless I backpack lol.
>>54615263
Apple does discounts.
How the fuck do you think shitty offices and schools get them in bulk ?
>>54612754
Wow they really do cut the age off at 30. Is there any truth to not being able to learn coding after 30? I find that hard to believe.
Nigger is probably going to get sued. Is it accredited? If not you might as well stay on YouTube because both don't mean shit.
so many pregnant nerd chicks after this
how long till a bunch of pajeet poo it up and ruin it for everyone?
because when it's free like that in a culture of non-free education you know it's going to happen.
>>54612754
>doesn't care about SAT's
>but we will throw you into what we called a "hunger games" like pool with week long, intensive coding challenges
I understand you have to get students who know their shit for this package but you're replacing the SAT with something else so why bother mentioning it at all?
>>54612754
French here, it's a shitty school made for creating code monkeys
>>54622711
It's not like i expected something else, but it's still a nice idea, except the age cap.
>>54622711
It's free. They provide you with computers, roof over your head and you don't have to pay for utilities. Not so bad for some of us.
>>54615227
Was accepted after the orals, should I go?
>>54612804
Sure, but compiling on them is completely useless. It sounds suspiciously like web-only languages.
>>54622711
So is every other school
>>54613345
Not always true. There are many people who learn because they have to, the ones that are actually worth hiring are the ones who continue to pursue knowledge after receiving a degree.
>>54622711
And thats different from say, your state uni because...?
>>54613871
http://www.usnews.com/info/blogs/press-room/articles/2016-05-17/the-us-news-raytheon-stem-index-shows-america-will-have-to-depend-on-foreign-workers-to-fill-stem-jobs
Oh?
>>54615263
>still a massive waste of money
desu fampai housing and tutoring total failures that can't even get to into community college should have been indicator enough
>>54615485
>And if they straight out bought a house they wouldn't have that issue.
You must be new to life in general. The average home price in the US is $188,900. You would have to live in your parents' basement for at least 15 years to afford that.
>>54623062
>You would have to live in your parents' basement for at least 15 years to afford that.
What the fuck is your point? Getting a mortgage doesn't make the house yours, they can do whatever the fuck they want with the interest rates if you don't get a contract.
>>54615543
Depends on what level of math you're at. If you don't understand Algebra and Statistics, go back to school for math. Go to a school with smaller class sizes, lecture classes are completely worthless.
>>54615580
For it to pay off you have to play into the catch-22. You need a portfolio to get a job but you need jobs to get a portfolio. It might require doing some "charity" work.
>>54615641
>This "everyone needs their own house" meem is fucking retarded.
Everyone does not need their own house but it's a wise investment if you do it right. Rent is paid into a black hole. You don't ever get that money back.
>>54615580
You're not likely to get a job from it, but it's incredibly helpful on a personal basis just from all the automation you can do.
I'm sure you'll have more benefit from scripting than coding though.
>>54615775
The rest of the working world is very slowly catching up to where the tech sector was 10 years ago. That is to say that you'll probably have to go back to school at least once in your life because your job is no longer relevant.
>>54616097
tfw it's all H1Bs going there.
>>54622865
You couldn't even get into Ensimag?
>>54616765
Indians teaching Indians....why.....
>>54623169
>Rent is paid into a black hole. You don't ever get that money back.
Yeah, and so is eating, and video games, and buying computers, and shitloads of other things.
>>54612754
meh, purchasing fake papers to make me under thirty that would pass inspection would still be cheaper than a regular college education, so let me just find some underworld type and cali here I come baby!
>>54612857
This is actually true.
>>54623242
Didn't apply, kinda fucked up...
>>54621885
It's a semi-brainwashing tactic. By 30 you've had enough experience to know they're teaching you to code like pahjeet.
>>54623086
>if you don't get a contract.
Are you 18!?
A mortgage requires several contracts. You decide what terms you're comfortable with and sign. Variable percentage loans are for house flippers and morons who don't understand what fixed-rate means.
>>54612911
also a lot of non profit things receive government incentives on a state and federal level.
>>54623086
>Getting a mortgage doesn't make the house yours
The mortgage itself doesn't, the deed does. You receive the deed to your property upon signing the mortgage contracts. As far as the law in the US is concerned, you own the house.
>>54623271
In paying toward a mortgage you have what is called equity. Equity is money that you have in the house that you can get back at any time. Your equity grows over the term of your loan until it hits 100% of the value of the loan (in other words it's paid off).
>>54613799
>It's NOT free though.
>You end up paying more over your working life
All developed countries:
>don't pay for education now that you're young and poor and just starting out, start contributing later when you have the money through taxes so others can have the same treatment.
US:
>pay for everything upfront now that you're 18 and don't have the money, so that you won't have to pay when you're earning money
If you can't see how backasswards that is, there's something wrong with you.
The american corporatism system operates on the same principle of lottery: the poor majority supports tax cuts for the rich, on the hope of getting rich some day and not having to pay tax. Literally, buying lottery and hoping for the best.
And also shaming.
>What are you, handicapped, to want social benefits? Are you UNABLE or INCAPABLE to make do yourself? Are you POOR or do you wanna be bundled with the POOR PEOPLE?
>No? I guessed so... Vote tax cuts for the rich then, just like the rich people do! You wanna be RICH don't you? Start acting like one! :^)
>>54623371
while it may be technically yours it's not really yours until shit's paid off otherwise one or two missed payments and you can lose your shit
>>54623169
You still pay property tax. And with the way the economy is going, a house will likely loose value (or you'll be unable to find a buyer).
>>54617512
He actually started business in 80s with sexy/porn sites on Minitel, and is now at the head of one of the biggest telecom company in France
>>54623411
After the first missed payment, they send you a notice. The second they may send you a notice of default. Once the eviction process is started it takes them a minimum of 30 days to get it approved by the court. This is all assuming the bank actually wants to kick you out. Protip: Banks like money, not houses. They will bargain with you to get the money before they will evict you.
>>54623422
Actually where I'm at now the housing market is booming. People are still flooding into my state and houses are bought within a few weeks of listing. Ultimately you're arguing against investment. In 30 years I will have at least one house that I only have to pay taxes on. Retirement (assuming I get anything) is more than enough to pay that. Personally I plan on renting out several though so that I have a continuous income after I retire.
>>54623169
>Rent is paid into a black hole. You don't ever get that money back.
Meanwhile I'm sitting here with a house that will likely cost more than a new one would if I want to fix it up properly.
>>54623528
Timing and location are everything in real estate. If you get the opportunity to improve the area through voting or other means, do it. Other than that, the value will inevitably go back up after awhile.
>>54622899
>compiling on them is completely useless.
In what way?
>>54623682
1. Compile for Mac
2. Cannot sell it because you compiled it for fucking Mac
>>54618336
I'm 35 and I've never ran anything other than Unix.
Although I did dualboot with Windows NT for awhile.
486dx - Esix SysV
PPros - Redhat/windows NT
Sun Ultra 5 - Solaris9
finally switched to x86 macbooks
>>54621203
i live here and can tell you that not everybody is rich
>>54623710
Being this fucking retarded.
>>54623710
Are you retarded?
>>54623710
Uh.
What?
First I don't think they're going to make a lot of commercial software at a fucking school.
Second that makes your argument very dependent on the language used, and even then you know there are ways to build for Linux/Windows from OSX, for C/C++ for example.
Obviously you're not gonna write .NET applications in OSX, but that's hardly relevant.
So yeah basically your argument a shit.
>>54612857
So did my high school.
>>54612754
Sounded great until I got to the 4-5 years. I guess it's probably great for those who haven't gotten B.S.
I've got a degree in EE & do embedded design & programming but I'd really want to double down on coding. Is going for a CS masters worth it or would it be better to just shoot for entry level programming jobs and build up experience from there?
>>54619116
how the fuck do you do the second test. I figured out im too stupid for this school by now but im still curious
>>54612754
just looking at that floor plan gives me claustrophobia
even at the lowest rung of public service my office is shared with 1 guy
>>54619116
Where can I take this test?
>>54623737
>>54623763
>>54623766
Yes, you can build for Linux/Windows on Mac.
1. It takes way more effort than it's worth
2. You cannot troubleshoot Windows/Linux applications on Mac
>Being this retarded
Speak for yourselves.
>>54623942
You are stuck from on the first part of the second challenge? If yes, check this for tips and there are one or two of those in the current test.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZb_lyRwxwc
>>54624009https://admissions.42.us.org/users/sign_up
Good luck anon
>>54612754
They should make schools where you are under contract to pay a portion of the income from your jobs like this
>>54622711
yes
>>54622822
the joke is that america still doesn't have free college
>>54622959
because UC Berkeley is a state uni
>>54623037
>community college
CC is an obvious troll, even high school dropouts can see that
>>54624090
>CC is an obvious troll, even high school dropouts can see that
Actually after numerous investments community colleges in certain areas are much better. Where I lived previously the CC was designed as prep for MIT.
>>54624116
dunno man the real "prep school" benefit was probably face time with MIT people
i never had trouble just showing up at their events/clubs/lecture series before
are you talking about roxbury or bunker hill?
>>54624263
Out of state, they offer the standard 3 levels of calculus available at 4-year schools and all of the basic sciences. The CC received a chunk of that Bill Gates fund.
>>54612777
> fremont
literally gonna be filled with pajeets, hope they got good ventilation
>>54624286
>Out of state
idgaf then it's fucking nothing
how could a CC prep you for MIT when you can't even get on campus and meet people?
no matter how much bullshit about slack and messaging apps people try and force on you, nothing beats the impact ratio of a a face-to-face meeting
>>54624359
Actually being qualified to get in counts for as much as meeting the right people.
>>54623573
>Other than that, the value will inevitably go back up after awhile.
Not when there's a crack in the foundation and water keeps seeping through and fucking up the interior every year.
>>54624494
Do you have homeowner's insurance?
>>54621885
Brain plasticity.
>>54612754
>free dorms
he didn't even do it in France
what a fag
>>54615543
it would be a good idea to stop wasting oxygen and kill yourself
>>54624911
underage
>>54624825
There are plans to do it in France but it won't be finished until 2019.
I imagine that place is so smelly. So many Indians and asspie neckbeards. Holy shit. I hope there are some moms there to clean up after them like a fraternity house mom. Imagine the community kitchen in the dorm. Curry and hotpocket stains and smells everywhere. Yuck.
>>54624059
fun game.
>>54625252
fuck im stuck.
