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Why does almost everyone on /g/ rip on Arch Linux?
>>54535162
>almost everyone
it's one (1) morbidly obese shitposter
>>54535162
The dullnormal / retard range of morons around here can't install it, and it makes them pretty mad.
Because it's popular.
>>54535162
it's a meme distro
>>54535217
lol
>>54535210
Its not hard to install. Its really, really, really hard to install it properly. I mean, like, REALLY hard.
>>54535210
if I have it installed does that make me smart?
>>54535162
> almost everyone on /g/
LMAO
it's one fat manchild
there's one obsessed guy who makes regular hate threads about it, the rest just follows along.
But one of the reasons is archuser's sense of superiority they acquire for copy+pasting commands from the wiki.
>>54535162
because the text gui is hard to follo
>>54535310
you do not install arch with a text gui installer
>>54535245
How the fuck do you do it incorrectly?
>>54535162
they've never used it before and/or they like using outdated software
>>54535251
Smarter than the dullnormal / retard range of moron around here.
Congratulations.
>>54535347
With kde/plasma of course.
Because it's broken by default.
>literally 40% of packages broken
>>54535403
But by the time you install those things, Arch is already installed.
>>54535347
Install gvfs and it mouts shit ro, try to make KDE work smoothly but still laggy as fuck, tying to make any applet work on Xfce, bootloaders fucking up (grub and xfs) etc. The list is endless!
Because Arch Linux users are fucking faggots.
>>54535162
Because it's another pointless meme flavour of the month.
>>54535162
Did someone say Arch Hate Thread?
>>54535162
>Why does almost everyone on /g/ rip on Arch Linux?
Because of Arch users with a ridiculously distorted cognitive bias, such as this one:
>>54535210
Arch is one of the easiest distributions to understand from top to bottom.
>>54535616
>>54535665
>Arch is one of the easiest distributions to understand from top to bottom.
Thanks for supporting the fact that you are a serious moron if you can't install it.
>>54535680
>>54535172
>one
one
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number
1.
the lowest cardinal number; half of two; 1.
"there's only room for one person"
pronoun
1.
referring to a person or thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
"her mood changed from one of moroseness to one of joy"
2.
a person of a specified kind.
"you're the one who ruined her life"
>>54535701
>>54535665
idk why would you be so bothered with someone with a superiority complex on the net though, get therapy and work on your self-worth senpai
>>54535718
>>54535727
>>54535719
Vocal Arch users are like a train crash, with a conductor who insists there is nothing wrong.
It's hard not to stare
>>54535727
>>54535745
>>54535718
>someone took their time to do this in response to arch users calling em dumb
top kek feels good to not be an insecure wreck
>>54535763
>>54535770
i just installed ubuntu
can i be youre friend?
>>54535782
>>54535798
Why would you want to be friends with a fat, smelly autist?
It's kinda amusing desu desu
Jealousy.
Arch is the distribution of successful engineers and scientists.
Dimwitted children vent their jealousy by bashing the world's most advanced distribution.
>>54535524
>>54535616
>>54535718
>>54535727
>>54535745
>>54535770
>>54535803
OBESE MANLET ALERT
>>54535782
>Implying Arch users had meeting to begin with
>>54535421
>he didn't pacman -Syu
>Bottle pissing smelly fat obese manlet is back again
Why are lifeless people such desperate faggots?
>>54535959
>>54535936
>>54536008
>>54536037
>>54536048
Didn't make the thread but this behaviour appeals to me because it's a perfect example of what not do to. It's hilarious how the average arch user is basically a real life cartoon character, but it's computer related. I used to wonder as a kid how people get like this, ie really smart but so morbidly, catatonically bitter that no matter how great they are at something nobody will ever ever ever want to work with them because they are the biggest autists ever. I've read greek tragedies where a fictional character shot himself in the foot less. Just like every extremist in any field they go much too far with it and it's all just a game on who is the biggest loser and they take technology backwards by a factor of 30 years thinking that thousands of people are seeing their obscure terminal software setup that they spent months on trying to differentiate it from ubuntu users who got the same shit in 15 minutes but nobody fucking cares. Get the same hilarity from slackware and gentoo. The difference between technology autists from losers in other fields is that the scale is so much larger - they had to train for years to dropout and do this, train themselves to hate everything and everyone. Gun fucks and the retarded anti-car mechanics are losers but they eventually find some retarded group to fit in. Arch users and any extreme tech faggot anti-group are just so, so, so fucked on a whole extra level, every opportunity that comes their way is going to be pushed away as hard as possible for the most hyper-nitpick psuedo reasons and I can't get enough of watching it happen.
>>54535162
If you watch carefully the fatball doesn't actually have any arguments against arch but for memes. Arch is hard for some people and they just feel jealous. like
>>54536008
>>54536037
>>54536048
>literally the ONLY """""defense""""" arch users have is "ur fat lol"
>>54535959
TURBO VIRGIN ARCHNIGGER ALERT
>>54535936
this. benchmarks show pacman is nearly 3% faster than dpkg, which more than makes up for having no security team, a non-standard release model, no quality standards, no 3rd party support, a really bad ports system, no management/installation tools, etc.
>>54535162
i use arch as my main OS and have been for years.
>>54536124
TOPKEK Go take your dietpills brain dead you fat sack of shit
>>54536144
Did your sentence structure driver break?
>>54535162
i don't hate on it, I use it on my laptop. Gentoo on desktop.
there's really nothing to hate on it, it isn't that much different than any other distro honestly. It's not hard, its not "l33t hacker" as newfags on here think it is.
the only reason people hate it is its user base is cringey
arch is damned amazing. I wouldn't use it in enterprise, but for a hobbyist/tinkerer it's great.
I'm using Manjaro for some days now, really liking it. My computer is very old and I couldn't open many tabs in my web browser and everything started to get fucked up. With Manjaro netinst, everything is working fine, I just installed the DE and the basic programs I need, no big hassle.
But I'd really like something stable and certified, I won't have many time to fix problems soon. Debian is a no no, I never could get it to work in my computer, the drivers are shit. What do you guys recommend? Fedora? I just want to do the same shit I did with Manjaro, minimal installation and stable.
>>54535162
I use Arch as my host OS and window xp on a VM.
Newfags cry because they are too stupid for Arch. Go to any website and you'll find out Arch is for experienced users.
>>54535162
It's basically really hard to setup for people who live by a point-and-click lifestyle.
The people who don't want to learn about the operating system they are installing should install Ubuntu instead.
Arch is not for the newcomers, if you have a vision of your system, this is a nice distro to install. All packages are modern.
It has an ABS system to keep packages you care about stable and compiler optimized.
>>54535162
>overzealous autistic fan boys
>"you'll learn how Linux REALLY works!" When it's literally just configuring a package manager and letting scripts do the rest
>offers nothing that minimal net installs already offered for other distros don't
>muh bleeding edge packages!! when you can just install directly from the upstream source in any distro
>only reason to use it is the aur, which is full of broken and unmaintained packages and isn't monitored at all, most "packages" are just a bash script to download the package and it's install script from GitHub
>aur is far worse than Open Build Service, which actually lets you package binaries and programs for multiple distros
It's not the worst distro, but there's nothing it offers that makes it worth using over any other distros and it has the worst fucking user base.
Why does Linus Torvalds use Fedora instead of Arch, the superior distribution for real hackers?
>>54536408
Nice pasta but I will bite.
>>offers nothing that minimal net installs already offered for other distros don't
It's more minimal than Ubuntu mini
> can just install directly from the upstream source in any distro
Yes on Arch you just have to type :#packer atom-editor-git. It's pre set in the AUR
>only reason to use it is the aur, which is full of broken and unmaintained packages
Learn how to use pkgbuild. Nothing is broken
>>aur is far worse than Open Build Service, which actually lets you package binaries and programs for multiple distros
I have a different personal opinion, AUR let's me install precompiled *nix binary very easily
>>54536459
>comparing it to Ubuntu for minimalism
Thanks for proving my thesis, pajeet!
>>54536479
Ubuntu mini is a minimal ubuntu package. Lurk moar, newfag
>>54535162
Because it's the last step before Gentoo.
>>54536459
>It's more minimal than Ubuntu mini
it's not, all the mainstream distros are about 1gb, including arch
>>54536490
Pajeet, please! Shit goes in Loo, not the post!
>>54536510
That is when you install the base-devel group package. It's upto you if you use things like sudo or not.
Arch is not a minimal distro, but minimal enough not to give you autism
>>54536503
Not really, no.
Gentoo is for casuals and dualbooters. I don't think there is anyone who uses gentoo exclusively while not being a closet wincuck
>>54536576
The creator of Gentoo left his distro because it is not practical. He's just a macfag
>>54536576
I use gentoo exclusively. Windows is a fucking mess
>>54536459
>It's more minimal than Ubuntu minidu -cshx --si --apparent-size archlinux-bootstrap-2016.05.01-x86_64
342M archlinux-bootstrap-2016.05.01-x86_64debootstrap --variant=minbase --arch amd64 xenial ubuntu-minimal/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
du -cshx --si --apparent-size ubuntu-minimal/
136M ubuntu-minimal/
Archfags confirmed delusional
>>54535162
Because it's a hobbyist OS.
Sometime's it's documentaion is LQ, for example:
I decided i was going to setup a chroot Arch Loonix today for fun.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux
(I'm on debian BTW)
Followed the instructions untill this:
>Selecting a mirror and downloading basic tools
>
>After selecting a mirror, refresh the package >lists and install what you need: base, base-devel, parted etc.
Now if we backtrack, we can see the following:
>Using the chroot environment
>
>The bootstrap environment is really barebones >(no nano, no ping, no cryptsetup, no lvm). >Therefore, we need to set up pacman in order >to download the rest of the base and, if >needed, base-devel.
How in the fuck am i supposed to select a mirror without vi emacs or nano? Am i supposed to echo into /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist ?
>>54536576
Fuck you. I use gentoo exclusively on 2 machines
>>54536459
>>54536655
Archfag just got #rekt.
>>54536655
>>54536676
I am not talking about the size of bootstrap idiot. Go check many packages ubuntu server comes with. Then compare it with Arch base install
>>54536704
>compare server distribution with base install
debootstrap IS Ubuntu's "base install".
>>54536704
>>54536726
Oh #rekt again. Bend over and take it you little Arch faggot.
If your iq is below 120 points please use something more user friendly.
>aerchboyyo
>>54536726
>Incomplete install = base install
Are you fucking retarded. Ubuntu's most minimal install is the server install and it is more bloated than Arch-base
>>54536758
fuck off clueless fucktard
>>54536665
I'm not familiar with that process, but can't you edit the file outside of your chroot?
>>54536809
>I don't even know how to install Ubuntu
The most minimal install is literally the --variant=minbase bootstrap. 136MB. Add 1 MB for Grub if you want to be anal. That's it.
>>54535727
After reading this post. I now understand why I use arch so much. Dear god.
>>54536832
Bootstrap is not a complete install
>>54536809
>Ubuntu's most minimal install is the server install and it is more bloated than Arch-base
both are about a gig, neither is minimal so stop memeing about bloat
>>54536318
Anyone?
>>54536318
Stability depends on users way of using a system. Did you run into any instability or are you just implying debian stable is free of bugs?
>>54536879
Ubuntu MATE, m8
>>54536926
Nice one. Ubuntu professional devs sure worked hard to magically solve MATE's issues
>>54536901
I just couldn't install my network card, but I didn't try very hard. It's an Atheros AR9285. Should I keep trying? Is Debian my answer?
>>54536926
I never used Ubuntu, jumped straight to Mint. I worked with Ubuntu, but never with my own computer. Is it actually good? I don't want bloated stuff.
>>54536987
>I don't want bloated stuff.
It's less bloated than Arch.
>>54536952
>Nice one. Ubuntu professional devs sure worked hard to magically solve MATE's issues
please senpai report bug desu
>>54537033
Nice meme, I keked
>>54535803
>jpg for text
>>54535210
You can install it by following instructions. It's not hard at all.
>>54536098
And what's your point? Ebin meems?
XD fuck off
hipsterism to the nth degree
>>54536926
it's pronounced "mah-tay"
>"why do you dislike arch?"
>get showered in I AM SILLY ms paint comics
every time
>>54537751
>tay
not really but whatever
>>54537806
sorry, but it is
>>54535936
>Arch is the distribution of successful engineers and scientists.
>>54536809
>Ubuntu's most minimal install is the server install and it is more bloated than Arch-base
MY FUCKING SIDES
This is what Archkiddies actually believe
>>54535162
I hate windows 10 but this whole thread and threads like it completely turn me off from linux because of all the retarded in-fighting. People who use windows don't give a fuck about windows, just what they can do on it, and I find that much preferable to "hurr muh superior package manager" or whatever the fuck you retards argue about, like who gives a fuck man I got shit to actually fo
>>54535162
Well, when you hear idiots on here say that typical arch users are smarter than linux disto developers, that kind of makes me hate these users. Been on the forums lately? Talk about toxic.
My own reason though? Let me tell you.
I installed arch on my acer aspire ES1-512-C0GA. It wouldnt power off after the shutdown command. I issued a bug report with the maintainers at systemD. Its been 7 months and they stiil dont care. (They actually say its my fault). Since then i have found that its a problem with grub and systemD together that causes this problem. (Many other arch users have this problem too and its still unresolved on their forums. They say the same thing). Now that i have a solution, do you think im gonna help? No.
Fuck arch.
I don't hate Arch, I just think there are better options.
>Default Systemd and not supported to run without
>The ABS is cool but I don't really like pacman
>Bleeding edge distro
>Community driven
Just lots of bad in my opinion
I'm running Antergos which is basically automated Arch with a fancy installer and that's it. I had to install it to do some docker related development bullshit.
So far my experiences running a rolling GNU/LINNNUUX OS is that I download a fuck ton of updates everyday. Eventually that shit is going to crash and burn my little VM system.
I normally run BSD with snapshots and it's just a much more sane upgrade than 100 megs of new packages getting updated every day. Probably going to uninstall this after my work is done and replace this linux workstation with something that doesn't require any attention like LTS ubuntu
>>54538462
Another thing I hate is how Arch users shill that terrible wiki they have. A wiki with spoonfed documentation is not documentation.
The man pages on the actual system are not maintained whatsoever and frequently missing/incorrect so I have to go through this entire page of spoonfed content with generic options just to find the program options I'm looking for.
If they put all their efforts into man pages instead of that stupid wiki they'd have a pretty good system
>>54538841
Yeah i have to agree here.
>>54535162
It's quite literally only one person. Who also happens to be a landwhale. And he uses Fedora.
2bh Arch is the most used distro on /gee/
>>54535162
It's fun to run in a virtual box to learn more about how different components of a standard Linux system work.
I had it installed as my daily driver on my tower for about 6 months. Than I got a really good job that requires quite a bit of my time. I don't have time to fuck around with it now.
Literally just un-installed it today and replaced it with ubuntu.
All is well now.
>>54540502
is it really that much work? what the heck is so time consuming?
>cant use screenfetch without pulling in half of X.org
lightweight OS my ass
>>54540533
>what the heck is so time consuming?
For the mentally disabled, copy-pasting is hard work.
>>54535347
retard here. I mean, really, comparing to your "autistic," in another word, "genius" people, I had a fucking hard time to follow all those instructions on Arch wikis or whatever those fucking youtube tutorial videos. I mean, sysly, I've tried my best, but my fucking old laptop just couldn't run arch correctly. Maybe I'm just retarded, which I have assumed long time ago before I stepped into this meme major.
>>54540645
what went wrong?
>>54535162
how do you faggots feel about arch/hurd?
>>54541076
want sound? usb? dont bother otherwise
>>54535347
First time I did it in a vm I skipped steps that seemed superfluous+weren't described well in the wiki, mostly because I didn't understand at the separation between the arch install iso version and what I was actually installing via pacman, ie. I thought since I had features like Internet connection on the iso version I wouldn't have to go through setting it up. Had to nuke everything and restart.
>>54535210
I installed it with both pacstrap and cnchi, but I still don't like it much. Got to be way too careful with updates (then again I guess this is a plague for any rolling-release), that's why I prefer more tame distros (Debian and Xubuntu are my favorites).
>>54538154
Either post some valid proof or get the fuck out shitposter
>>54538462
Probably the systemd maintainers rightfully thinks you are a retard since no one else complained about it
itt: irrelevant things from windows users
every distro is the same thing, some just pick arch because they like to have stuff updated and pick what wm/de to install out of the box
after that it's no different from distros like ubuntu or fedora
>>54541820
>they like to have stuff updated
Debian sid
>and pick what wm/de to install out of the box
Debian's netinstall
>>54535936
>Arch is the distribution of successful engineers and scientists.
dude what planet do you live on
>>54542058
Anyone with a PhD in computer science is smart enough to use Arch Linux. It's the natural choice.
>Arch tard makes blatant false flag post
>other arch tards fall for it
>you're lay fat!
