The King Edition
Hello,
This thread is to consolidate graphics card and display technologies discussion to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's also keep the shilling to a minimum, no-one fucking cares.
Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
Use >>>/g/gcg/
For non-related questions, link to find the stupid questions thread:
>>>/g/sqt
Support questions should be directed to >>>/wsr/, as per /g/'s sticky. Or just fucking Google it instead of shitposting.
Budget crown:
AMD RTG Radeon R9 380X
Performance crown:
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080
/GCG/'s Choice
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070
> NEW PASTEBIN -----> http://pastebin.com/GKpypK28
Buyer Guides:
>GPU's
www.logicalincrements.com
www.pcpartpicker.com
>Monitors/Displays
https://pcmonitors.info
Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms. Falco Paunch!
Drivers:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>>54479735
first
>>54479735
>recommending cards that aren't even out yet
AMD4LYF
So memes and fanboyism aside is the 970 still the king of 1080p? I want to play black ops iii without it looking like shit. Currently using a 260x
>>54479784
You can preorder them retard.
>>54479898
r9 380x is cheaper, but shittier in 1440p. Does well in 1080 though, you don't need anything more powerful really.
>>54479898
wait for polaris tbqh
They told me to buy Nvidia. Shills!, i said. Now look at me
>inb4 hurr why didnt u prntscr u dumdum
Shitty keyboard, pretty much wverthing right of the enter key doesn't work.
>>54479735
>http://pastebin.com/GKpypK28
Had a good chuckle at Language and Etiquette. Thanks OP
>implying anyone is going to be able to discuss display tech amongst all the grafixbabbies screaming
Why would you do this?
>wait for polaris
All these shill need to shut up and do like two minutes of research before spouting this nonsense.
Polaris is not even going to compete with Pascal for quite a while because AMD have said that they are going to first launch the low-mid end cards.
So if by "wait for Polaris" you mean wait almost an entire year for the high end amd cards that will probably not match the nvidia cards anyway, then by all means go do that but stop your incessant amd shilling.
>>54480552
m8
nvidia can't even touch mid range amd cards in dx12 as it is now
>>54479920
Link?
>>54480588
Yes, that's why I said Polaris will be targeting mid range cards.
They won't be able to compete with the 1080 or 1070 because these are both high end cards, so I don't see the point in encouraging everyone interested in one of these to "wait for Polaris."
Polaris is not even catering to the people interested in the 1080 and 1070.
>>54480552
>not realizing that "midrange" for next gen GPUs means top of the line performance compared to this generation's chips
>not realizing AMD has a 50% smaller die and can sell them vastly cheaper
>not realizing that AMD has much higher chip densities and thus can fit vastly more transistors into that smaller chip
I'm not saying AMD is going to slap nvidia's shit
but AMD is going to slap nvidia's shit.
>>54480623
did you literally forget that the 980 is mainstream performance for nvidia today?
did you literally forget that the 1080 is the 980 successor?
this is nvidia's midrange lineup, 1070 and 1080.
>>54479920
good goy
>>54480552
1080 is midrange
>b-but muh 80
It's a GP104 chip, it's midrange. GP100 is enthusiast.
>>54480982
Bingo, the 1080 Ti and Titan X80 will be enthusiast high end
>>54480645
>>54480982
>>54481036
sure "mid range" at 600 buckaroos fucking assholes
So the biggest things for me are the non-reference design cards for both AMD and nVidia, I plan to get either a 1080 or an AMD poolaris 10 card depending on when Polaris releases and how the performance and DRIVERS compare to nVidia and the 1080.
Drivers killed it for me the last release that I bought an AMD card because it took over a year for AMD to unfuck the 7970 drivers, which left me with a $450 brick for 8 months until I sold my rig out of rage. I'm waiting at least a month after 1080 release to see how it actually performs and it's driver support
>>54481146
That's how much the 8800 gtx cost when it first came out
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/gtx_1080_ashes_of_the_singularity_benchmarks/1
Thoughts on GTX 1080 barely pulling ahead of Fury X (~10%) in Ashes of the Singularity in DX12 ?
>>54481146
At $4-500 dumbass, 1070 is midrange too and is supposed to outperform the titan x and 980ti
The accuracy of nVidia's marketing skills to the actual performance are yet to be verified as no consumer benches have yet to be released since the card isn't yet available to the general public because it doesn't release for two more weeks
>>54481146
And the last card I bought from AMD was the gigabyte 7970 OC, that shut was gimped for over a year and a $450 brick the entire time except for on Civ. 5 and dead space 3.
>>54481191
>At $4-500 dumbass, 1070 is midrange too and is supposed to outperform the titan x and 980ti
[source required]
Because I'm fairly sure they only talked about the 1080's performance.
>>54481163
and was that not the second best card out from nvidia at the time? is that midrange too?
>>54481191
1070 might be mid-to-high end. i don't trust nvidias marketing at all. have you not seen the jewish tricks they pulled?
>>54479920
Fucking retard kill yourself. The point is that you can't recommend a card that hasn't even reached the consumers hands yet.
>>54481258
>and was that not the second best card out from nvidia at the time? is that midrange too?
Actually, it was the single best card at the time, the 8800 Ultra came out later.
>>54481229
Watch the Michio kukoo lookalike release video again moron, he went in depth on the 1080 and then said they are going to release a 1070 and 1070 founders edition for $375 and $499 respectively June 10th 2016
>>54479735
>1080
>GDDRX
>Pre-emption
>King
>http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/gtx_1080_ashes_of_the_singularity_benchmarks/1
5fps over an old architecture, 28nm Fury x. Thats sad
>>54481258
Inflation
>>54481273
Yes, and that gives literally no input on the 1070 performance. For all we know it could be barely beating the 980.
>>54481277
With gimped effects no less...
But it's the way it's ment to be played, so who am I to say
>>54481258
Hence the whole "until I see 1080 and AMD Polaris performance and driver support" part
What can I buy now that will last two to three years before needing a replacement?
No liquid cooling, not interested in 4K, but price is no object.
>>54481278
DAT 10% inflation per year
>>54481300
No shit, see >>54481307
>>54479735
>budget crown
>380x
I think the 380 would be the overall budget crown globally.
>>54481328
Nothing except maybe 4 way crossfire fury x, in two weeks, 4 way SLI GTX 1080
>>54481344
This tbhfam
>buying a cheeky 2gb XFX 380 for $150 to hold me off until a Black Friday build I can splurge on
https://youtu.be/8lTGk0R12gs
>>54481265
You're the retard. Until they come out, the recommendation is to not buy any until they're out.
>>54479784
/THREAD
fuck you nvidia shills
I mean I'll buy a 1070 if it has good vulkan support and overclockability, but Jesus I'm expecting disappointment like any rational person
>>54482322
one normal guy in here.
>>54479735
I'm going to stop taking my wife's son to PlayLand and save some money for a 1080.
>1080 at least $100 more expensive than 980
>1070 bottle necked by the memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jIDbZG1VxY
So when are the laptop version (M) of those 1070 and 1080 supposed to come out?
http://videocardz.com/59725/nvidia-gtx-1080-polaris-10-11-directx12-benchmarks
Polaris being a joke. (Just like all AMD products)
ashes of the singularity is irrelevant, it's not representative of a typical game, it's a really shitty amd-optimized game that's the exception to the rule that nvidia rekts amd's shit. Boy are you fucking faggots in for a surprise when async meme doesn't save you guys
>>54479735
So how does the r9 280x stack up against newer midrange cards? Ive had this thing for quite a while now in one of my rigs
>>54483158
this
Now that we know the 1080 will out perform the titan at almost half the cost, what should people who have bought the 980ti do? Buy another video card?
Im not sure if I approve nvidia's marketing strategy, as "good" as it is.
>>54481328
A 1080 would probably last you that long if it's as good as they say.
>>54483158
That's not true and you know it
All dx12 titles show embarrassing gains for AMD over nvidia. Nvidia never had better hardware, just drivers, and now they're losing to AMD in both when it comes to everything other than dx11 titles and even in many of those are losing to AMD recently
>>54483603
>>54483158
Those results were confirmed to be inaccurate you nvidiot samefag.
>>54483740
You should compare 1080 to 980ti and not Titan. Titan is garbage.
Nvidiots:
>no async compute
>no DX12
>7.5 GB
explain yourselves???
Why are MSI's twin frozr cards so fucking popular?
>>54484072
FUCK YOU. AMD SUCKS. ILL NEVER BUY AMD. NVIDIA IS A FUTURE. FUCK YOU RETARD.
>>54484093
I remember fucking X800XT with Twin Frozr being very popular back in 2004.
>>54484093
They're pretty quiet relative to some of the swings and misses from other companies that have come out and MSI is generally regarded as a safe brand for both AMD and Nvidia stuff.
>>54484093
>massive community
>runs cool
>good warranty
>usually only $20 more than reference cards
whats not to love?
>>54480077
>1402037°C
How's the sun's core, Helios
>>54484310
>>massive community
What community?
>>54481631
I know that feel, I bought 280 for £130, lowest I've ever seen it
>>54479735
Why do you recommend logical increments? There CPU GPU pairings have always seemed too GPU heavy for me. choosemypc.net seems to be more reasonable.
>>54484436
Logical increments are great. Also made by /g/ trip. Good luck to your site tho.
>>54483158
>benchmarks when neither card is released yet
lol
>>54479920
>preordering anything
hang yourself
>>54484436
>choosemypc.net seems to be more reasonable
Made by reddit's /r/buildapc. No ty.
>>54484005
>rumored performance of nvidia card based on non confirmed benchmarks
>hahahaha nvidiots btfo
>t-there is no chance these benchmarks could be false
>rumored performance of amd card based on non confirmed benchmarks
>i-it's a lie guys
>t-these are inaccurate, i-i swear !
wew
>>54484584
You seem butthurt kid.
>>54484584
The videocardz "leak" was obviously an engineering sample, you stupid cuck. Real results will be completely different.
>>54484709
Nope. Just highlighting your damage control. Enjoy that 390x equivalent performance in polaris 10 for $350, friend.
:^)
>>54484584
>getting this worked up over rumors
Anyone talking shit before confirmed 3rd party benchmarks are out is a fucking retard, that includes you.
>>54484767
Nvidiots eternally BTFO
http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-4k-benchmarks-leaked/
>>54484818
>Anyone talking shit before confirmed 3rd party benchmarks are out is a fucking retard
so every single amdrone on this board? right, gotcha.
>>54484851
Sure, along with all of you dumbasses creaming your pants over a paper release. Fucking fanboi fags all of you.
>>54484847
this might be accurate
reminder the first gtx1080 leak(3dmark) had ~10% more performance at stock speed than a "heavily" OCed 980ti(1500MHz)
>>54485002
If it turns out to be true, that is HUGE.
People are testing the reference 1080's which have a single 8pin PCI-e power connector. Just think what will happen once OEMs start throwing more power at it with 8+6pin connectors.
>>54485002
>happen once OEMs start throwing more power at it with 8+6pin connectors.
>>54485074
just watched the vid, dark soul 3 actually has a 60 fps cap, so I'm not sure anymore
This is the build I currently am thinking of making.
Would a 1070 work well with these other parts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/p/MsWY6h#incompatibilities
(I plan on replacing the 390 with the 1070)
>>54484847
>>54485002
>>54485074
Are you people serious? That's fake.
>>54485122
Dont buy 390. Wait for Polaris and 1070 benchmarks.
>>54484436
Probably assumes you're going to be doing AAA gaming.
>>54485149
Yeah that's the plan, although I don't think Polaris cards are going to be competing against the 1070.
But the cpu and ram are enough with a 1070/amd equivalent right?
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>mfw the 1070 will rape at sells
Really, it looks like a great buy since it can obliterate the entire GPU lineup at less than $400. I'm hoping Polaris can at least get Nano performance for $300, that'd be neat too for the lower end guys.
Also,
>1070 and 1080
>mid range
Really nigga? They're both high end, big Pascal would be enthusiast.
>>54481154
That sucks man. My 7850 has been nothing but awesome to me since day 1.
>>54485165
>I don't think Polaris cards are going to be competing against the 1070.
It will be much cheaper at least.
>But the cpu and ram are enough with a 1070/amd equivalent right?
Yeah.
>>54485212
Same but with 7870.
>>54485191
Let's wait for the benches before we start singing the 1070s praise. Literally everything is just speculation at this point.
>>54485241
Don't worry, I'm not a drone. I will wait until it's actually out to say anything, this is all from Nvidia's mouth. For all we know, it could be faster on very specific workloads, for what we know it can suck major ass at Vulkan and DX12.
>>54485284
The one thing we can guess for sure is that Nvidia will sell a fuckload of them because that $300-ish pricepoint is where it's at for moving mad volume. 1080s will be in such limited supply that I don't think they'll move the needle other than help drive demand for the 1070s which will be pushed out the door in larger numbers due to plenty of GDDR5 available.
>>54485125
i'm pretty sure people have found ways to remove the framecap. either way, the other results do make sense.
>>54485284
>>54485191
The way you talk it feel like you're the cute anime girl from the pic! I've read those with her voice!
>EVGA 970 SSC for $230 after MIR
Fuuuuck should I do it? Not so sure I should wait for Polaris with the fact it's a mid range card
>>54485516
Season 3 when?
>>54485541
>970 ever
Fuck no dude, especially not now.
As much as I enjoy AMD and their products, Nvidia's Gameworks has me by the balls. I don't really have much of a choice for a gaming GPU.
>>54485541
I bought one for $250 several months ago new, you should at least wait for Polaris.
>>54485578
>Nvidia's Gameworks has me by the balls.
Then don't play them. Have you no self control? Gamers and otaku in general have very little reason aside from instant gratification.
So, I'm trying to diagnose something and I have a few questions. Since last night when I started playing Overwatch, I have had some instances of artifacting and AMD Driver crashes and twice had a BSOD with error message Machine Check Exception. Does this sound like a graphics card issue? I have a 280X if that helps.
>>54485541
Wait for Polaris. Will likely perform better at a similar price, get a way bigger boost in dx12, and not have 3.5gb VRAM.
>>54485578
Just hardcap tessellation in Catalyst to 8x or 16x. That's really the only thing you need to do to if you'd rather go AMD.
I personally love AMD cards. I love seeing the games I play actually improve FPS as drivers mature. My little OC'd 380 get's 144 FPS fairly stable at 1080p in BF4 multiplayer with settings on Ultra/high (with a 5820k pushing it). When I first got it last summer I'd maybe top out around 120.
>>54485570
>>54485583
>>54485625
Thanks for returning me to sanity, have some tits and a thumbs up
I'm gonna working for NVIDIA starting next week. Wish me luck /g/.
>>54485692
Sabotage.
>>54485720
>sabotaging a sinking ship
war crimes are not cool :^)
I'm an AMD guy. It's gonna be fun :^)
>>54485688
Who
>>54485692
I figure they would contract out custodians. Huh.
>>54484847
Yeah this is fucking retarded
>>54485602
Anybody?
>>54485692
enjoy your janitor job.
can someone summarize whether ubuntu xerus amd drivers are dogshit? like can i use dual graphics or crossfire with the new amdgpu? fglrx is gone and i read that amdgpu is better but they have yet to release the hyperspeedturbo updates.
I just want to know this one thing! Fast an painless please:
Buy an r9 390 now for 300€ or wait for the 1070 from 3rd party manufacturers?
I also just have an i5 4460 so I don't even think I can run the 1070 without massive analgaping bottlenecks :(
>>54481344
Got my 380 for $185. I might not even upgrade till next year tbqh.
>>54486034
1070
Almost nothing is CPU bound if we're talking about games.
>>54486102
Ok, I think I just got hysterical because a friend of mine owns a 980TI and a 4460 in the beginning.
He then bought an expensive i7 and told everyone he gained like 20 - 30 fps in most games likes witcher and battlefield :/
Always thought he was a lying bastard anyways.
>>54486167
The only way he would see those increases are on engines from last gen(aka Source Engine). BUT any modern CPU will hit 300FPS in those engines anyways.
(And with DX12/Vulkan CPU is going to become less relevant)
>>54484023
Also titan is a different class of GPU, technically the 1080 should be compared to the 980, and when the 1080 Ti comes out that be compared to the 980 Ti
>yfw clueless idiots throw their shekels at the 1080 because they heard it was 2 times more powerful than the titan x
So what would you recommend for 4K on a 780Ti?
I'll get a Titan X which I got burned for 30 € this week, found someone who fixed the burnt memory phases on it. I want to sell it around 750 €.
He is also working on another 780Ti, but I'm unsure if it will ever work again, the damage is more massive.
With both cards I should have around 1000 € budget, but I need most of it for other purposes. Or can I expect 980Tis to drop below 350 €?
>>54486167
He may not be lying, I had an i5 4440 paired with a GTX 970 overclocked to 1519mhz, in plenty of games I wasn't getting 99% GPU utilization even with vsync off, I got a 4690K at 4.5Ghz now and I get 99% usage in all those games now, I also upgraded my ram from 1600mhz to 2400mhz and got near almost 10FPS increase in some games too, a good example was CoD Black Ops 3, before I was getting barely 60 to 70frames on multiplayer with the i5 4440, now I see it go up to 110frames sometimes 130.
What I learned frrm this, don't cheap out on the CPU.
>>54487207
The i4 4460 (the cpu that anon had) is a quad core running at 3.2 Ghz. I really don't think upgrading to an i7 will make any noticeable difference, seeing as he already has a relatively powerful cpu.
>>54480552
Fuck u yids, I'm eating for the low end Polaris. 1080 at 60fps, no power extra power connector needed and no fans on w 4k video
>>54486034
Except for shit like cities: skylines which is heavily CPU bound, an i5 4460 will be more than enough
>>54487261
>yids
>eating
>no power extra power
what the fuck did I just read?
>>54485870
>>54485760
>implying
>>54487314
what did you get hired as?
>>54487328
i serve food to my nvidia overlords
>>54487238
an i5 4460 is just 100mhz faster than my i5 4400.
>>54487328
software development
All I want from the 1080 is some decent FPS at 1440p (which the 980ti can already sort of do). I also hope to not have to wait until July or August to pick up a non-reference version.
>>54487328
Lead of the Internet Shilling Department
I'll literally be getting paid to shit post on 4chan.
>>54487857
so nvidia have decided to fight back against the paid amd shills on this board.
good move tbqhwy
>>54487941
>paid AMD shills
They can't afford to pay for shills. We do that shit for FREEEE.
>>54487998
sorry, you're right. my mistake.
Is a pcie 2.0 lane going to bottleneck a 980ti and why or why not? What specs determine the data throughput of the card?
>>54488169
No, you can run most modern games on 1 lane PCIe 1.0 with less than 10% performance penalty compared to x16 3.0, provided there's enough VRAM to not need constant loads from main mem.
>>54488400
But what determines the throughput on the lane? I ask because I've seen what looks like a bottleneck when running games before. 99% usage on my GPU and 40-50% CPU usage at the same time. All conventional understanding points to a bottleneck
>>54479735
>Performance crown:
>Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080
>/GCG/'s Choice
>Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070
:^)
>>54489038
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54479735
Polaris or Pascal?
>>54481146
>He thinks price point sets the performance range!
>laughingshills.jpeg
For serious bro. These are 300mm^2 dies. Last generation the high end was 600mm^2.
There's still a lot of 16/14nm to come.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-asynchronous-compute/
Async compute officially confirmed
>>54484767
>390x equivalent performance in polaris 10 for $350
and only 100W!
oh wait, of course since AMD's doing better at that now, you'll claim that efficiency never mattered.
My gtx760 has become really loud, especially during games. I have a feeling that it's because of nvidias driver upgrades and that they're trying to get people buy newer cards.
Am I completely in the wrong here?
Or is there anything I can do?
I've used some pressured air to blow the dust off the fans but it made no difference.
>>54489484
Maxwell also had it listed when Nvidia released those DX12 slides.
>>54489522
sounds like thermal paste is not working anymore.
>>54489484
>currytech
>literally no mention of any evidence as to pascal having async compute in the article
>literally no evidence anywhere outside bullshit rumors
>this >>54489543
you nvidiots sure love being cucked hard
>>54489004
no bottleneck there. You want maximum GPU usage and minimum CPU usage.
throughput on the lane is determined by the socket (1.0/2.0/2.1/3.0/3.1) and the multiplier (x1/2/4/8/16).
>>54489591
4chaining you/
>>54479735
Choosing cards which have yet to be released is a game of folly.
Choosing a "thread's choice" before seeing the opposition is simply naive.
>>54489937
Opposition is making shitty mid range cards and high end is coming 2017
>>54480552
GCN4 is at the very least a 16% improvement over GCN 3/1.2.
Along with their improved bandwidth compression and other features we simply have no knowledge of (we know of a revamped cache subsystem, and redesigned cores) it's being speculated in other, actually industry informed and experienced forums that GCN4 aims to offer 30-40% better performance per clock than Fiji.
Meanwhile, at least according to released specs, Pascal is literally so within the margin of error for IPC improvement that we can, and should, safely say it indeed is simply a die shrunk Maxwell.
We have absolutely no knowledge of how Polaris scaled in clock speed beyond AMD's low power presentations. By all metrics it should at least be capable of 1.5Ghz out of the box in high performance modes, and the doe shrink characteristics maths in conjunction with comparing Maxwell to Pascal fully support this.
>>54481163
Is the 1070 the 8800 GT all over again?
>>54489998
>GCN4 aims to offer 30-40% better performance per clock than Fiji.
Jesus fucking Christ, I would cream my pants. High end Vega would be an absolute monster.
On the other hand, let's see how Pascal fares in several days, I'm curious on what Nvidia did with the massively hyped Pascal.
>>54489998
Further, FuryX already achieves 2 Gflops per core per Ghz (calculated by ( (4096 * 1.05 * 2) / 4096 * .95xxx)
The 1080 achieves 2.08 ( (2560 * 1.733 * 2) * 2560 / .6)
The 980 achieves 2.035. You can do the math here.
Polaris will be either a 2304 or 2560 shader part at full die. From the cqche system improvement plus unknown core design changes let's assume a paltry 20% imprpvement per clock. Let's assume, over older GCN designs, a maximal (stock) clock of 1.5Ghz, as per node improvement specs AS WELL AS referencing nVidia's clock increase over their power draw with respect to the 980 with respectto AMD's claimed 175w tdp for Polaris.
2560 * 1.5 * 2 * 1.2, over 2560, times .667 = 2.4 Gflops per core per Ghz.
And that's just some very dirty, mildly speculative numbers. Without factoring in the 16% per clock tessellation (gameworks) improvements from the new primitive discard accellerator.
I cant pick a side until products are in hands. But this is shaping up to be very, very interesting.
>>54479735
GTX 1050 is obviously the budget crown.
Anyone know some graphic heavy games I can use for benchmarking that arent with nvdia or amd?
Talos principle and Wolfenstein new order are the only ones Iv been using for neutrality.
>>54485602
I'm still trying to figure this out. I've read that it could be a number of things. I'm gonna clean my PC tomorrow as to eliminate it overheating. But I've also read that it could be a psu issue (mine's a 500W Valens), or the card itself going bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3eQejGJ_A
Literally pajeet curry tech, if you buy it then you need to learn to poo in the loo.
>>54490784
artifacting and BSOD sounds like either a main memory error or a VRAM error.
Probably a stupid question but where do I go to look for those nasa-tier graphics cards?
Everything /g/ talks about, even new stuff, is consumer products, but I wanted to know about the kind of shit big name companies run, the kind where you're paying like thousands for just the card
So is there any reason to assume AMD's Indian engineers are shit other than memes?
>>54490602
there are games that with amd or nvidia that scale very well
alien isolation
rotr or 2013
witcher 3
mordor
gta5
i think bioshock infinite works well with any resolution
it's not a question of affinity it's about how well it scales with hardware
>>54491904
>bioshock infinite
That game looks fuckin amazing in 4K.
Anyone else waiting for na'vi or volta in 2018? I'm comfy on my current cheap thinkpad, don't really feel the need to upgrade right now.
>>54479735
Here's a question, when the fuck will AMD start supporting Carrizo products again!! Not even a year in and they fucking dropped it. First ever AMD APU I ever bought and they're making me regret it so hard. You guys can only blame OEMs so much. It is at the end of the AMD's responsibility to give driver support to their own APUs.
>>54486034
or get polaris for cheaper which is better than 390x for a better price than the 390x itself right now and the 1070 in the future
>>54492658
>poolaris
>low-mid range cards
>thinking they will perform on par with a 1070
I'm not an nvidia shill but you'd probably need to wait for vega for amd cards that can compete with the 1070/1080.
Unless AMD gets a massive advantage in DX12 then polaris will not try competing with pascal.
https://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
jen hsun on suicide watch
>>54492760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jen-Hsun_Huang#Career
>$512.4 million
Yup, he's definitely on suicide watch.
>>54492781
money can't buy happiness.
>>54492708
>Unless AMD gets a massive advantage in DX12
Mother fucker Nvidia is done finished bankrupted! It's the year of AMD!
>>54492708
>implying amd is not sandbagging
they always release their performance earlier and nvidia 1up them.
>>54492803
Yes, these are benchmarks from maxwell, not pascal.
Until we see how the new cards perform on DX12 games I don't think it's safe to claim that the old amd cards will outperform them either.
Historically nvidia cards have always been more powerful than amd.
Once amd finally releases decent drivers for their cards that either matches or performs better than the other nvidia cards, the new architecture is already coming out.
>>54489487
>http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/gtx_1080_ashes_of_the_singularity_benchmarks/1
>eff never mattered
A few months back
>muh eff
>lel AMD lava cores
>they buy cheaper GPU's so they can pay watts
Gotta love it when Nvidia claims something it's mindblowing and "Apple like" groundbreaking.
When AMD claims the SAME shit... not important.
Same with DX12. Now that it seems that Nividia is bad at it... suddenly it's not imporant anymore.
Fcking Nvidiot cucks.
>>54490189
Almost quads for witnessed
>>54492828
>>54492828
>pascal
It's a over clocked Maxwell on a smaller die. Nvidia says they have a new Architecture but with no aSync? sounds fishy to me. 1080 after all this Hype pushing 5fps more than the Fury.
>>54492799
yes it can and it does, keep telling that yourself poorfag
>>54492803
nvidia will still sell far more gpus than amd
>>54492799
I remember when I was young and believed this.
Dear imagination technologies, can you please stop printing mad cash for a moment with your mobile chips and come up with a desktop PC worthy videocard to shake up the market a bit?
>>54492955
The sad truth. As much as one can appreciate how far AMD has come with their engineering. Nvidia's marketing will always trump AMD.
>>54493000
It's not really that surprising though.
Thanks to how many games use gameworks even if the AMD cards are more powerful they will end up performing worse than nvidia cards in lots of games.
On the flip side, games that use amd's special features or whatever they're called will also work fine on nvidia cards.
>>54484485
I just preordered book, sorry to disappoint you but I won't hang myself.
>>54493000
literally the Apple of gaming
>>54480627
I will always buy Nvidia™ because I only play games The Way It's Meant to be Played™. Nvidia also pioneers innovative new technologies like PhysX™, Gameworks™ and the highest quality driver to ever grace Windows.
When I boot up with a brand new Nvidia™ Geforce™, I can experience the game just like it's meant to be played. Nvidia™ also delivers a far more smooth experience.
Nvidia Geforce™ is also very power efficient. A graphic card is the most power hungry device in your house. Refrigerators, AC units, water heaters, dishwashers, lights, etc all use significantly less power than a graphic card. Which is why Nvidia™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AMD graphic card at all. I tried one one time, it caused so much heat that it exploded. It also consumed so much power that it gave on an EMP and destroyed the rest of my computer.
Nvidia™ also pioneered how useless GPGPU is with CUDA™. Years ago, everyone thought GPGPU, CUDA™, and OpenCL were the future. Now, Nvidia™ has removed those useless features from their GPUs and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Nvidia™ ensuring that useless features like GPGPU are "optimized" for gamers.
It's quite clear that OP's an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than The Way It's Meant to be Played™. Nvidia™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Nvidia Gameworks. He is probably too poor to afford the Nvidia Geforce Experience and can not afford to play any games The Way It's Meant To be Played™.
Don't be a poor gamer with bad drivers and a huge power bill. Play games with the Geforce™ Experience™: The Way It's Meant To Be Played™
>>54492955
yes, because they are better as they have mostly always been. Gaming perfected.
>>54493080
This is to inform you that you are being served a lawsuit by Nvidia which was filed today in Federal District Court., alleging that you violate two trademark agreements. Line 8, sentence 3, words 14 & 15. The words "Nvidia Gameworks" were not trademarked. Please cease and desist from commenting on this forum.
>>54492760
ONLY 4 more months
hnnnnnnnnnnnng
>Bought a 295x when they bottomed out in price last year.
mfw
>>54493297
How much? I'm thinking to get one.
>>54493280
>only 4 months
>sold my TI to a retard for way to much
Can't wait till then, gotta sell my 1080 if vega turns out to be good/worth it
>>54493327
$550-$600 plus tax. Not sure what they're worth now but it doesn't look good. And make sure you have at least 900 watts or 70 amps on a single 12v rail.
>>54490189
This is why I expect Vega to outperform everything
4096 shaders on 14nm? That should literally be double my 290x if not better
Question kinda related.
Has anyone here tried asking for a refund on a game that you got with your gpu? I've got an hour in AotS and it's shit.
>>54493705
What would you be refunding?
The game was free and they know that.
>>54493280
exactly how much time i need to save up on zen(might go kaby if it fails) and vega in new build
>>54493297
>>54493404
Thanks for all the info. Even with high power draw, they are impressive.
>>54493338
im keeping my 770 4gb oc its unkillable a good backup card because fuck going back to intergrated if the new housefire shits itself
>>54493818
i have over 2 grand in the bank ready to go.
Will have over 5grand for a new PC by october but ill see how badly my i5 4690 bottlenecks it.
I might as well wait for ZEN though
>>54493297
>>54493327
Why? Only 4 GB. Frametimes like shit.
>>54479735
You're gonna give performance crown to something not out yet? Are you high?
>>54487282
I have an i5-4440 and when I'm playing cities skylines on my 100k population city, the only issue I run into is using 7+ Gb of RAM. CPU usage is higher than most games, but not a bottleneck
