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Do you guys think virtual reality will be the future of technology? How long will it take to be integrated into society like smartphones were?
It's already dead
>>54437668
>How long will it take to be integrated into society like smartphones were?
consider how long smartphones took
I'm not sure where to draw the starting line (original blackberry? newton?) but it was a long wait between that and iPhone/Android-level market penetration
>>54437710
I remember the Blackberry kind of started it a bit, and then when the iPhone came out everybody had one within a year
At least that was how it was where Iive
>>54437668
>integrated into society
maybe never. I mean, why generic normie should spend $600 on a toy and then even more on proper PC? Wii Sports is cool even in 2d, and you can't even play party games in VR. For generic users, it's nothing more than a great, great arcade gimmick. Simulator players will probably love it though.
I'd love to see VR arcade machines and VR arcade places/clubs. I mean, this is how it worked when most people wasn't wealthy enough to buy a device for themselves.
Still, VR is fucking awesome. I rented DK2 and i still can't get over level of awesomeness, and recently i combined nvidia gamestream with tridef3d and opentrack and even if it's not even nearly as good as Rift, it's perfectly usable tool for racing games (and it's still impressive as fuck).
VR is a meme.
unlike smartphones "virtual reality" (which isn't even virtual reality, its a motion-tracking screen) has little practical use
>>54437710
Comparing smartphones with similar Technological (revolutions?), they came in pretty relatively in my opinion.
I don't think VR will ever do the same. I think some business will (and probably already do) use them for hands on training and a small percentage of people will use them for gaming (I might be one of them soon) but they'll never be common.
The tech is awesome and far less glitchy than I expected but it's just not something I see people taking to.
The Wii was cool for a few weeks and then it just died in the ass. (In Australia at least) I think this'll be the same.
>>54437739
So we have to wait until Apple makes VR goggles? Seems that way with smart watches as well
>>54437868
relatively quickly*
>>54437878
Oh, god. I think this is probably terrifyingly accurate
>>54437668
Given that alot of people have already shelved their headsets a few days after getting them...I'd say that it probably will never be the future of technology.
>>54437878
>apple VR
>experience glorious 800x480 stretched on your entire field of view because 90% of computers we sold can't handle anything more with their intels hd4000
nah. I mean, of course apple would "revolutionize it", everything they touch turns to gold, but i don't think they have means to do it properly, at least other than ridiculously expensive bundles with some kind of processing machine.
![flat,800x800,070,f.u1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oJV7055.jpg "flat,800x800,070,f.u1[1].jpg")
>>54437668
who #FellForThisMeme here
>>54437947
I'd gladly fall for this meme, only retarded price + taxing and shipping to my third world country keeps me from buying it.
I'd buy OSVR kit and try combining it with other software to make it work with trackIR-capable games, but it's so unpopular i wonder if i'd be their only customer.
>>54437946
>>54437900
>>54437878
The Apple phenomenon
VR is for weirdos.
AR actually is the future.
>>54438046
Nothing suprising about that, their PR/advertising is flawless. They even have their own jesus, i can't think of any other company with their personal legendary world saviors.
>>54437946
Who said that the processor has to be on the thing you attach the goggles to?
They could put it on its cable or some shit and just use the iShit it's connected to as DRM.
>>54438111
It doesn't. Thing is, apple computers/laptops are ridiculously weak. There is nothing exciting about having something that performs just as well as google cardboards.
Literally an insult to technology.
It's 3d glasses 2.0 like I've been saying for years, and everyone fell for it like retards, the only use it has is for kids with raging hormones only interested in pornography.
>>54438088
>i can't think of any other company with their personal legendary world saviors.
>>54438160
Don't you ever talk like that to me or my wife's son ever again!
>>54438247
Topkek
Related pic
>>54438160
>all of those retards who never had it on their heads and thinks it's a rectangular screen that's always in direction you're looking at
only big differences between looking at real world and looking at 2d screen are
>missing one dimension
>display is not moving with your head
>display is not adjusting camera position relatively to your head
>there is no blur from your eye lens when looking at two things in contrasting distances
VR fixes three of four problems, and lens blur is not that important for first generations anyway.
ITT: salty poorfags
>>54438281
You're also forgetting that having a screen constantly strapped to your face is literally killing your eyesight, might as well be blind.
>>54438160
You're really underestimating the mainstream appeal of porn and the size of that industry.
>>54438308
I don't think you understand how the lenses change how your eyes focus
>>54437913
Where you got this information? Out of your ass?
>>54438308
How so? What, you think it's exactly like watching anything from five centimeters? No, it's not. Lens changes focal.
>>54438316
Yeah, it's pretty disgusting, hopefully when Trump is elected he castrates all the degenerates.
>>54438374
If Trump ever gets elected he'd be impeached if he tries anything outlandish that he claims
>>54438322
>>54438318
I'm seeing so many reports of people having trouble focusing after using VR, and Sony is asking their consumers to not allow kids under the age of 12 to use it since kids with underdeveloped eyes will definitely be affected.
Stop trying to act like facts are not facts. VR is going to hurt your eyes and apparently your brain since you're viewing things from a completely different perspective than in real life.
>>54438374
>>54438402
>>>/pol/
>>54438418
I've heard people bitch about shit like the 3DS a Toyota's accelerator pedals
Point is these people are fucking idiots
>>54437947
>he fell for it
here, your options for content are literally (no hyperbole here)
1) oculus home/ steamvr games (walking simulators)
2) wii/psp emulation (~30 obscure titles each)
3) virtual google-maps like videos
4) indie homebrew unity projects, which are all strangely as well-optimized and graphically demanding as the "real" VR games (which is to say they look like a load of me old dog's dinner)
I'll answer any questions you have about owning one of these things though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3q2mXDSqRU
>>54438441
And you're mr. perfect right? I'm sure you'll still be defending this trash console wars style even after your next eye doctor appointment goes wrong.
>>54438464
No but I am a medfag and there is no solid evidence suggesting that VR permanently damages eyesight, it's all just "b-b-but muh childred!"
>>54438444
Trips checked
I have so oculus on preorder. I run a surprisingly successful podcast, and we've been doing quite a bit of VR talk lately. Did I goofed with oculus, or did I do good, considering the oculus touch will be here soon?
Also, I hear SteamVR is compatible and even prompting Oculus users to install SVR, thank God.
>>54438418
sweet jesus
it's exactly same shit with classic display 3d glasses, it's not eye problem, it's brain problem. you can also get your head fucked up by watching stereograms as a child, but it doesn't mean stereograms are harmful for your eyeballs or for your adult, developed brain.
you have completely no idea about basic concept of vision and yet you're spouting your bullshit baseless accusations like it's universal truth. Go and educate or something.
>>54438444
Wow you have an incredibly narrow imagination
>racing games
>flying games
>first person shooters
>space exploration
That alone covers hundreds of titles, and even more will be made in the future
>>54438444
oh hey I almost forgot
>VR porn
empornium user here, whatever insane fetish you may have, I can guarantee it's less well-served than even the most bland VR content. Only the two most well-heeled producers have bothered to get in the game, so no "japanese girl in one-piece swimsuit gets fucked bareback in outer space," enjoy the same tattooed forty-somethings slam into each other for half an hour in unconvincing 3d
>>54438488
Ah, a medschool practicioner, I'm sure being around all the egotism and selfishness in that field has served you well.
Anyway, the only evidence you need is LED screen + plus face doesn't equal 20/20 vision, I'm sure even a medfag like you can understand that.
>>54438444
y-yeah
except every anyhow important simulator, i guess it's all about walking sims
oh, and except hentai games where you can comfortably place your head below animu girl feet in full-blown 1:1 3d, but hey, who cares
>>54438503
There isn't any VR content available for the base model setup, I'd be a hopeless optimist to assume that adding a peripheral to the mix and splitting the userbase will attract more (or any) developers.
Sorry anon, your $600 princess may be in another castle.
>>54438534
You dumb motherfucker, you're not understanding how the eye is focusing
Your eyes aren't focusing on the screen 5 centimeters away, that's physically impossible, they're focusing on the virtual objects in the game like would with real life objects the same distance away
Why is this concept so hard to understand? Has the average /g/ poster really gotten this damn stupid in the past 6 years?
>>54438559
Rip hopes and dreams
How's the porn?
>>54438536
Ah, how I wish this were true
There's one VR hentai game out right now that runs on runtime 1.3, it's barebones to the extreme but run by a dedicated anon.
Unfortunately, that's the best that we've had to look forward to for the last three years, so I hope you like three minutes of hatsune miku shaking on the floor in a bikini.
>>54438571
sssshhh
calm down anon
it's just a bait
>>54438587
>runtime 1.3
oh, right, i forgot, last time i tried Rift it was DK2 and sdk somewhere around 0.4.4. But isn't there some kind of fanmade converter/wrapper for older runtimes?
>>54438571
LED SCREEN + FACE
Even with your eyes closed if put your face against your computer screen, it's still gonna be bad, it doesn't matter what you're "focusing" on, YOUR FACE IS TWO INCHES AWAY FROM A SCREEN!.
>>54438600
Is it really anon? The scary thing is that there are people who legitimately believe that
>>54438612
Did you time travel here from the 90s?
>>54438513
I won't lie to you and say that euro truck simulator isn't great.
>spent weekend driving around french countryside once as a kid
>try ETS2, delivering packages in my megavan, in full 3d, is pretty comfy so far
>look out leftmost window into open field as I hit the highway
>shit bricks
I literally felt like I was there. If you wish to be a professional truck driver, maybe the cost of entry makes that feeling worth it for you?
If all games were held to that standard, or if more of them existed, then more people would hopefully be thrilled with the tech.
>>54438612
You're hopelessly retarded. Vaccines causes autism-tier retarded, or even flat earth-tier retarded. But keep it up anon, I'm sure one day you'll start some kind of powerful social movement that bases entirely on lack of information.
Bright future ahead.
>>54438623
MORTAL KOMBAT IS CORRUPTING OUR CHILDREN'S INNOCENCE
CELL PHONES CAUSE CANCER
POKEMON IS THE DEVIL
POGS ARE SECRETLY ANAL BEADS
>>54438642
Okay, I'm not the one with poor purchase regret defending a over-glorified sex toy, but okay, enjoy the bad eyes, not that it matters because you'll probably never even need them.
>>54438612
it's couple of luxes stretched by lens on your entire field of view
>>54438612
I've spent the majority of my life with a screen a few inches from my face and I still have 20/15 vision, that's not how eyes work.
>>54437947
I too have fallen for the meme supreme
>4mb limit
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT4uQnhmJMfkMPJoCA/giphy.gif
>>54438695
Oh also i've been spending my whole life in a pool of diarrhea and I've never had a problem.
>>54438712
Is that where your butthurt originates from anon?
>>54438727
I dunno, I have 20/15 vision why should I care?
>>54438712
wait, he's actually mad
maybe it wasn't a bait after all
>>54438710
Why didn't you just make a webm?
>>54438741
Uh, this is confusing, I was arguing for VR...
What happened to the dream?
>>54438760
Nobody is retarded enough to fall for your shitty reverse trolling except for you
>>54438769
Kill yourself, you pathetic virgin.
>>54438776
Whatever, VR is awesome, fucking hater... You've obviously never even used one...
>>54438769
still there, i guess
>>54438769
this still exists, but your gif shows mostly the extent of it
considering the amount of well-heeled PCfag redditors, you think a patreon for one of these would be a huge hit
>>54437668
it's a gimmick like 3dtv.
which is ded.
>>54437668
Honestly whoever buys this is a creep, we all know they're using it because they can't get laid. lmfao
>>54438914
So wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a hooker? You your brain
why does every thread about VR ends up with hate and trolling?
you guys can have a cardboard if you're poor, it's fun as well
>>54438938
Hookers are nothing like your "anime pure virgin girls" apparently.
Also you kids are probably too scared for real sex, but at least you have expensive ways to make up for it, freak.
>>54438948
>>54438914
>>54438959
I'll tell you what you can't fish for.
Friends.
>>54438976
Says the guy shitposting on 4chan
>>54438939
I think this may be because tech sites hyped this up as a complete revolution, which isn't anywhere near accurate.
The majority of /g/ has the means or at least the autism to be able to try these headsets out once, and the hype-crash cycle isn't kind.
>>54438982
Okay, loser, lmao.
>>54439009
>implying anyone who ever had a rift on their head would lose the hype
it's quite the opposite
>>54439032
okay kid, no one asked you.
>>54437668
>future of technology
top kek m8
I bought the HTC Vive, it's cool but not as mindblowing as sites have made it out to be. If they continue to improve on it, it'll get really great. Right now the biggest problem is that lack of content with substance, that'll hopefully change down the road too. I'll answer any questions.
>>54439083
How ugly are you?
>>54439083
asl?
>>54439083
Does vive works purely as a steamvr api device, or can you just throw standard display image (tridef/iz3d) on it? I mean, what can you do when you want to play unsupported game, even with worse/misconfigured tracking?
>>54439096
between a 6 and 7
>>54439111
25/male/cali
>>54439121
Since you're probably biased you added a few points to that score, so you're probably a 3.
Eww..
>>54439118
I'm not sure what tridef/iz3d is but you can do a lot of things with virtual desktop (which is on steam) I'm pretty sure you can use that to pull up nearly anything that's on your computer. It also allows you to wrap the screen so it surrounds you.
You need to be running steamvr to use it, but for outside sources they just come as a .exe and you run it like a program.
>>54439133
Nah, not that low 6 I would say is fair.
>>54438281
seriously? you that stupid that u think people who smart enough not to fell for this shit don't know that it tracks your head movement? It has been clear to have such "innovation" since the day your phone started to change its screen when you turn it clockwise, nothing unexpected in your shitty VR glasses: you get two monitors in front of your eyes and yes this shit tracks your head movements that's it. With it you get even worse eye damage than staring at your PC screen because at least you can change focus to distant thing when u look at 2d screen and you cant do this with so called VR. The true VR will be when we be able to send visual signals to brain avoiding eyes. And what you are buying now is a scam so go for it. Dumb people make smart people rich, nothing new.
>>54439169
What are you talking about? VR has fleshlights dude, why are you hating?
>>54439167
Okay, let me rephrase: can you use this Vive as a "display" directly? No virtual desktops, no 3d rooms, no cinemas, just raw hdmi image sent straight to device?
vive or oculus?
>>54438587
You need to look harder. Both PlayClub and Custom Maid 3D2 are working with the Vive. There's also a model viewer for SFM models that will have more modes soon.
>>54439209
Not the way I use it. Maybe it's possible as a developer that know how to. When it's on, you can view your own desktop and open files for full screen. I'm not really sure, what you want to do.
>>54439232
vive for potential, oculus for games
>>54439169
It's like you haven't even read the thread
>>54439232
Vive if you have an empty room
Oculus if not
That simple really. I've tried both. Sold the Rift. I can get into it in more depth if you really want
>>54439299
What kind of games are you playing on it?
>>54439286
He did obviously, and found a post he didn't agree with, the following shit show was just biased nonsense by both parties.
In reality VR has it's uses, virgins get a new toy, but it's not really that great in the grand scheme.
>>54439299
>Vive if you have an empty room
>Oculus if not
why? what's the difference between the two?
>>54439319
I'm loving this sex toy meme. Did you come up with it all by yourself?
>>54439327
Rift tracking requires you to sit in one place. You can move around your chair, but that's it, nothing more. Vive tracking system can cover something around 2x2m room.
>>54439327
He might be referring to room scale, which really does add a lot to the experience. The Rift currently is a sit down device, which works great with it's games. It also does have the two most real games. Everything on the Vive so far is either something like mini golf or some other kind of mini game or an "experience".
Hardware wise they are about the same, except for their tracking and Rifts built in audio.
>>54439304
Mostly SPT, The Lab arrow demo, and Holo Ball. Only had it a week so I don't feel the need to buy more games really. Waiting for Hover Junkers to go on sale among others. I plan to try Project Cars with Revive but I've been really lazy about setting it up where my desk is. I wish HTC would just sell extra base stations already.
>>54439327
The big difference is that the Vive is built for room scale. Oculus can technically do it but not well. Tests are showing that even if you set the trackers in opposing corners you still won't have the same range and accuracy as the Vive. And as someone that has a 15 x 10 ft space I feel like even that isn't enough. And room scale is a big part of VR, if you have the space for it there's no reason not to have the option.
>>54439032
but I own one doe :^(
>>54439357
>>54439362
>>54439366
so the vive is useless? why would i want to move around with a screen strapped to my eyes? so i can run into walls?
>>54437710
The starting line would be the iPhone.
Everything before was wishful thinking (Virtualboy, cardboard), what we have now is the first gen iPhone. No app store, shit resolution, worse than dedicated devices, but it was a start.
Give it two years. We'll have 4k panels, foveated rendering, and all the good software.
>>54439342
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/1405362014611195427.gif
And that's just one gif, theres literally hundreds....
>>54439366
So, the Rift argument still holds up? Rift is, at least for now, better if i want to play almost exclusively racing sims and vive doesn't support this kind of games?
>>54439405
Want me to find tens of thousands of images of people jacking off on the internet?
>ZOMG THE INTERNET IS FOR PERVERTS AND VIRGINS
Also
>going on Gawker
>>54438769
I want the original image from the top right
>>54439392
Not sure where you got useless out of my post. Why did I even bother writing it when you're just going to troll.
>so i can run into walls?
Vive has a chaperone system that works pretty damn well
>>54439406
The Rift is fine if all you're doing is simulators. Vive supports these as well but the Rift has a more comfortable headset with less SDE. I feel like you're only getting one side of VR just playing sims though but to each their own.
>>54439421
Actually I just searched on google for that image using "VR sex toy".
And people in this very thread are discussing the porn capabilities are they not? Stop being a fool, this thing is a toy for sexual release.
>>54439428
>>54439428
>Vive supports these as well
Really? Which ones? Maybe my google skills are failing me, but i can't find too much about vive-enabled sims except project cars.
I just want Dirt Rally and Assetto Corsa.
>>54438612
Learn the first thing about optics before posting again.
>>54439441
You may as well bitch that a computer monitor is a tool for sexual release as well
Please kindly fuck off to whatever church you crawled out of
>>54439460
The internet isn't a gimmick though, it's an information highway where you can not only learn things in an instant, but also connect with people from other cultures.
Yeah, I'm an advocate against pornography, but VR has very little uses right now beyond it's sexual potential and it's pretty disgusting.
>>54439448
Assetto Corsa is being worked on apparently. The dev said no but people got angry so now they have a Vive.
Project Cars is getting official support but you can play it right now with Revive.
DCS will get support soon.
Not so much into sims so those are the ones I know about.
>>54439406
The Vive can do sit down as well as roomscale, however Oculus use their locked down store. A lot of the games like Chronos and Eve Valkyrie are exclusive to Rift. Project Cars is Rift only right now. You can get around it with a program, but Oculus will probably patch it soon.
>>54439448
That's along the lines of Project cars.
>>54439428
all i want to know is how is the vive different from the rift in specs
strapping a big heavy computer to my face just seems dumb and unappealing
>>54439473
Sounds like some kind of progress. That's good, i thought Vive focused entirely on "experiences". Maybe soon Rift won't be the only reasonable choice for me.
>>54439470
>advocate against pornography
>on 4chan
You do realize porn is one of the oldest things depicted in art, right?
>>54439476
Be sides the tracking and chaperon system I don't think there is anything else worth mentioning.
>>54439480
It's actually really light, lighter than a racing helmet that you have to try to keep upright while plowing through a corner on a track
>>54439476
Different tracking system, that's it. For now VR systems are mostly fighting with software/available games, not technology (which is retarded, such a fragile hype and yet they can't even agree on any kind of api compatibility).
>>54439497
no i remember reading somewhere on /g/ something like the vive has 540 degree view and the rift 360 or something like that and then i read something that made the rift superior and then thought to myself that it will be very hard to choose between the two when the time comes
>>54439427
And I want a job but not like these things grow on trees.
>>54439476
You can't go by specs. All of it is really subjective. Resolution is the same for both. Vive has a bigger FoV but more SDE. Rift has less FoV with less SDE. People say the "god ray" artifacting on the Vive is less noticeable over the Rift. The Rift has a lighter headset with integrated audio. The Vive has a camera and lets you use your own headphones. There's trade offs with all of it.
But actually what >>54439497 said is right. All of it is really minor. The biggest thing is the tracking. So just like I said in my first post, Vive if you have space and Oculus if you don't.
>>54439495
>Depictions of a sexual nature are older than civilization as depictions such as the venus figurines and rock art have existed since prehistoric times.
>In early times, erotic depictions were often a subset of the indigenous or religious art of cultures and as such were not set aside or treated differently than any other type. The modern concept of pornography did not exist until the Victorian era
Victorians ruin everything
What about chink goggles?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DeePoon-E2-Virtual-Reality-Display-Glasses-VR-Video-Game-1080P-AMOLED-Screen-2BG-8GB-75HZ-DeePoon/1982385_32621948097.html
>>54439527
>Be 23rd century
>order personal holodeck
>comes with four large holoemitter poles
>don't have room
>fuck
>>54439548
>$300
you can get OSVR cheaper, and definitely with better software support, even if OSVR software library is nothing short of pathetic
>>54437668
The future of memeology
>>54439527
what is tracking and how much space do i need for the vive?
>>54439570
The same price is cheaper now? And one's a dev kit
Apparently the chink goggles work with Oculus Rift software just fine
>>54439476
I don't have specs, but:
The Rift is lighter.
The Rift is slightly better in terms of SDE.
The Rift has better clarity around the edges of the lenses.
The Rift's "god rays" are smooth; the Vive's show the grooves in the Fresnel lenses.
The Rift has built-in headphones; the Vive has a cable to plug in your own headphones.
The Vive comes with motion controllers; the Rift does not (though you will be able to buy them separately at some later point).
Basically, get a Vive if you can't wait for motion controllers, or if you hate Facebook. Buy a Rift if you just care about seated/sim experiences, or you're willing to wait for touch controllers.
>>54439594
If they do, it's fucking amazing. I really, really doubt it though. I mean, they are not even saying anything about tracking camera, it looks like everything you get is device with screen and lenses.
>>54439598
what are god rays and grooves in fresnel lenses?
>>54439591
>how much space do i need for the vive?
As much as you can get. I'd say if you can't clear a 8ft by 8ft area then don't bother. Get a Rift. Their trackers should work within that space. Most games seem to require at least 6ft by 6ft minimum
>>54439631
"God rays" is a term that I've seen used to describe glare on the lenses.
I can't post examples, because 4chan thinks my post is spam, but just search for "oculus god rays", "oculus glare", and similar searches for Vive to see what I mean.
A Fresnel lens is a kind of flat lens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens
Who buying rift to get an extra xbox one controller?
That way you can play console when you realize VR sucks.
VR has a lounge way to go. Sure people will buy them and play around with them, but they won't be ubiquitous for a while.
I think augmented reality has a lot more going for it in the near term. Like, I know you'll hate this, but picture if you could meme in real life? Like pop up images and shit and have holographic crap going on. That shit would sell.
>>54439427
I know that feel
>>54439646
>>54439696
thank you i will get both then
>>54439747
>console
>extra controller
just
>>54439900
For when the first one wears out.
I know we don't have friends.
>>54438088
>They even have their own jesus, i can't think of any other company with their personal legendary world saviors.
Yep, although imo Bill Gates is more worthy of worship that Douche Jobs.
The resolution is AWFUL. Hahaha. Has anyone tried this shit? There's a reason all the 'games' are cartoony low poly bullshit. Any real games look like garbage if you try to look in the distance or try to look at textures up close. Why'd they even come out with this if the GPU tech to drive a decent res wasn't ready yet? Now VR is going to fail and we'll have to wait 5 years until someone can get funding for another go at it.
It's gonna take a while man.
For that life changing experience, we need stronger and more affordable PCs in order to get the best graphics we can at the highest resolution and framerate.
After that, it's just a matter of developers creating something that people are interested in experiencing.
I imagine VR will be VERY popular in the next few years, but won't go full mainstream until PCs are powerful enough.
>>54442196
They need to be powerful and cheap. Most people aren't willing too spend more than $300-600 on a computer sadly.
The newest GearVR is insanely good with the S7E, games like Smash Hit and Dead Secret look pretty gud for mobile GPU.
Hope their motion controllers are good, that's where it's really lacking right now.
Has any of you tried the Playstation VR? I won't pay $800 for a VR headset. That's what I pay for my car in a year... 400 is more reasonable if it's good.
Phones will be used more for VR movies / simplisticly controlled cut scene based game.
With a good PC, the cable suspended above head and gym mats under foot for Vive type platform defence games. But until we can walk around on a smart treadmill and be able strafe and roll, so we need wireless VR helmets and a moving WWE ring, they are designed to take impact without causing injury. So virtual Holodecks are at least 10 years away
>>54442547
>$800
JUST
>>54437668
What would happen if you put stereoscopic VR goggles on a dog or other animal? Would it be fooled into thinking it was in the matrix?
>>54437878
Many times great strides are made in technology because pornography becomes available and easily obtained and exploited via the new technological medium, e.g. VHS et al, the internet.
I think current gen VR will be very popular with techies/gamers/professionals once the price comes down a bit and the specs improve a little bit. I think within 3-5 years it will have sold maybe 10 million units worldwide, in 10 years maybe 100 million. But the real explosion in popularity on the level of smartphones won't come until the experience is both much more lifelike and more accessible, for example sense of touch and macro movement is something that must be supported. That's something I don't think we'll get to without direct brain/nerve implants or something like that. It will take some time, how long I have no idea.
>>54438402
A sovereign nation enforcing its existing borders and immigration laws is "outlandish" now.
>>54443445
Build a 30 foot wall and you'll just create a market for 31 for ladders while passing away billions of dollars in tax payer money
As if the border fence wasn't already bad enough and harmed Americans more than it helped them
>>54443469
Jesus fuck all that autocorrect
>>54437668
is a gadget? is a console? is a compute?
what is it really?
>>54437668
Nice picture of Will Smith OP.
>>54443769
A fancy display
>>54438612
woah nigger how do you sleep at night knowing your eyes are actively degrading from staring at the back of your eyelids?
>>54443789
He's such a self-important prick, I'm so glad he left Norm to host Tested.
Only a matter of time before his own project crashes and burns, tho.
>>54443801
idk bro!
>>54443469
>30 ft wall
>31 ft ladder
Do you really think that's how it works? Either you are being willfully ignorant of reality, or you are literally retarded.
>>54444732
Are you too autistic to understand the expression?
>>54445113
So it is a euphemism for Mexicans having the ability to outsmart Americans no matter what we try?
>>54446775
Yes. Just look at how the wars on drugs, terrorism, and piracy turned out, a whole load of wasted tax payer money
>>54438571
>Why is this concept so hard to understand? Has the average /g/ poster really gotten this damn stupid in the past 6 years?
VR haters is like a cult here anon.
>>54437668
I honestly don't know if it will be used, but if it will, it will be happen fast.
>>54446856
Lol. So because those efforts didn't work out perfectly, border security would be a waste of time?
How do you feel about the efforts to end poverty, racism, crime,gender and racial inequality?
Waste of time?
>>54447091
Because border security worked so well in the past
>>54447133
It did. Why do you think we have more illegal immigration now?
>>54447185
kek
>>54439405
>gawker-media
Why not GPS tracking? I thinks that its accurate enough for head movement? No?
Also will there be a VR with a HDMI cable or something? I would love having a 3d screen for my PC
>>54447476
>GPS tracking
>accurate enough for head movements
lol no
>>54447476
HTC Vive and Oculus Rift connect though a singel HDMI-cable.
>3d screen for PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjE6qXd6Itw
>>54443404
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/160111-insects-animals-science-praying-mantises-3d-vision/
The scientists played "movies," which were actually a series of moving discs that resembled movements of mantis prey. “It would look like a juicy insect was hovering right in front of them,” Read said.
If they did have 3-D vision, the mantis would only strike when its “prey” appeared to be about 0.8 inch (2 centimeters) in front of its face.
That’s exactly what Read and her team recorded.
>>54447532
>videos in full 3d
Hgggnnn
>>54447605
Cool.
>>54447727
We can't have that?
>>54437668
>How long will it take to be integrated into society like smartphones were?
when they can be built into glasses.
Anyone who doesn't like their headset can double their money right now.
![curve-499x275[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/E8fIStY.jpg "curve-499x275[1].jpg")
>>54437668
Probably a while. This shit is still way too expensive (and a little cumbersome) to be picked up by normal consumers. Also, there just isn't too much out for VR right now (game wise). Developers still need to make cool shit - almost all the stuff that is out right now is made by indie people and small game studios.
A friend of mine has a Vive and I had a blast playing it last night, but the highest quality stuff was from Valve themselves. One larger game studios adapt this technology, I believe more people would be inclined to play with it.
But there is no short of interest for development, it's just going to take some time for more stuff to come out. My college campus is really big on VR (thanks brendan iribe) so maybe I'm a little biased, but I see a lot of innovation for VR here.
But one of the big things of this stuff catching on is whether or not business can use it, and I think they can. The porn industry is already exploring VR stuff with things like google cardboard and 360 videos (see: beta tapes and VHS) and actually my mom just told me something about how VR would be cool to use to demo real estate. So, this may take off, but it's going to be a while. This shit is still in the "innovators" phase but it's just getting a lot of attention.
>>54438074
This man speaks the truth.
>>54447165
Augmented reality. Think Terminator vision.
>>54437690
>headsets create a "do want" factor as of now in local american shops
>the demand will increase over the years and the manufacteuring costs will drop while exceeding their previous gen
>It's already dead
>>54438074
VR is for normies
AR is for Robots
>>54438521
For now. The japs are already dipping their toe in it, and I have see the world through the eyes of a man with a jap harem, and it was glorious.
>>54438585
wonderful and growing anon. the games will come, but it's difficult because of the price and needed power.
>>54438769
it's "cuming" anon. maybe not until 2020. Haptic feed back that is controlled by the video or game is currently under a shitty patent. and so the only thing we have is accelerometers that are used as input Wii style to drive the interactivity, SNORE.
Owned the Vive for almost a month now.
The porn has been worth it.
I still instinctively lick the air when the pussy is in my face or grab at the tits swinging in front of me.
Look like a right degenerate if someone was to walk in.
>>54438938
once? yes. but if I hired a hooker for every time I fugged the VR pornstars, it would be something like $500, or the price of one of these things.
>>54439441
so is your phone.
When they invent an actual affordable Holodeck that works just like in startrek then it'll be worth it.
>>54439083
How is the resolution on it?
I have the Gear VR and the resolution is absolute shit. I enjoy it still, but it feels like a toy for now. At least I didn't pay for it.
>>54437861
Virtual probably not, but augmented reality has a future.
>>54451350
>The porn has been worth it.
tell me about it. Skyrim with VorpX and rape mods is some next-level shit.
>>54451719
resolution is technically lower on the Vive, but it feels higher, maybe due to some lense or software magic. I have the Gear VR too and you're right, it feels like a complete gimmick and never used it more than a few times since I got it a month ago. Vive on the other hand blows me away every time.
>>54451765
You don't get VR sickness?
>>54451824
That's why you get semicircular-canal-implants.
>>54437878
Smart watches are still meme tier and unlikely to be anything else.
>>54451824
I seem to be quite resistant to motion sickness, but it could also be because I don't play long sessions.
>>54451765
Im waiting for the free VorpX alternative. Seems like this one is too haphazard to spend money on.
VRGirlz and Holodexxx is going to be a real nut sucker once implemented properly.
>>54451824
no because of the head tracking
>>54451856
Have you seen all the normies with Apple watches?
>>54451824
i think this sickness (except seriously sick people) depends entirely on game quality. I don't have motion sickness or anything, i played a lot of games on DK2, and everything was great except alien isolation, which had probably no positional tracking support, felt kinda tilted through entire game and was making me nauseous. Hardware or concept itself doesn't cause it (again, at least for me), bad implementations in games do.
>>54443469
>civilizations have built walls throughout history because they're utterly ineffective at keeping people out
Yeah nah. You're a cunt.
>>54451924
I'd like to see that wall keep people out of a country in modern times
>>54451940
what changed? does XXI century technology allow us to somehow walk through the wall?
>>54451894
I've bought a couple of VRGirlz packages. You can make it work with Vive if you use the ReVive wrapper to trick it into thinking you're using an Oculus.
So anyway VRGirlz is pretty cool, but it's just static models (but very high res textures). It's okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to actual animated VR porn.
>>54451924
>>54451924
Because that long waste of a wall with loads of gaps and openings that killed millions of people to build worked really well against the Manchurians, didn't it?
>>54451958
no, but digging under has become a lot faster.
>>54451958
Magic flying machines
>>54437861
Actually it has huge practical use in CAD/CAM environments.
ie. The only people who have been using Stereo 3D religiously since its inception.
>>54451996
that's a good point, even if basic surveillance should detect it
>>54452006
airspace is controlled
>>54452021
You think illegals are going to give a shit abut air space?
>>54452021
>basic surveillance
it needs to be more than basic surveillance in order to detect the full length of a border wall, especially deep enough.
>>54452021
>airspace
wait for the tech in this video to become cheap. Airspace is fucked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEDrMriKsFM
>>54451966
Yea i tried out the demo with revive but it was too much of a pain to setup.
If they make full Vive integration and have the girls do basic thrusting-response movements id buy.
Really need a fleshlight for now, its like the missing link for VR porn but I dont have a good hiding spot.
Anyone have any experience with leap motion? Does it replace your vice controllers when playing games or do you need to play games made specifically for leap at the moment?
>>54438418
> implying the current generation of headsets are how VR will be done forever.
You realize lightfield rendering is right around the corner, right? No more vergence accommodation conflict.
>>54438444
Of course the options are limited. The damn headsets just came out and its a brand new medium. Building a full gaming experience takes years. Give it a while and you'll see more mature content.
>>54452051
even low-flying shit can be detected by specialised radars now
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mark-browne/us-radar-has-detected-hundreds-illegal-low-flying-aircraft-attempting-cross
>>54452072
I don't think you realize how desperate border jumpers are, fuckers hide in the gas tanks of cars
vir·tu·al
ˈvərCH(əw)əl/
adjective
almost or nearly as described, but not completely or according to strict definition.
Meaning, ALMOST reality. Not completely synthesized reality, nor a reality that is augmented. People miss this. VIRTUAL reality is a half-assed version of reality. Good, healthy, normal people don't care about that. The companies know this, which is why the biggest ones are pursuing AUGMENTING reality, which is the correct step in this direction. Virtually realized reality is for video gamers, the kind of people who want to shoot up schools, rape and/or post lewd pictures of children, and hurt and murder innocent, good people.
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/83354.html
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/04/technology/google-lenses/
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/155202/20160501/sony-files-patent-for-smart-contact-lenses-that-can-record-videos-take-pictures-with-blink-of-an-eye.htm
>>54452102
Normies dont like wearing anything remotely unfashionable.
Normies arent going to bother with contact lenses unless they already need them.
AR is on equal ground to VR. They'll both be good eventually.
>>54452094
I hope one day that killing poor people for sport and population control becomes popular, that way, people like you can realize how utterly alone you are. How pathetic you are. How the fucker who hides in a gas tank of a car would be the only person who would have come to your aid. The future is bright for my family, thank God I was born into a wealthy one.
Godless whore.
>>54452143
anyone who uses the word "normie" needs to be arrested for conspiracy of terrorism. You don't have society's interests at heart. I pray that either you get arrested or are exterminated. you need to die either way.
Agape.
>>54452154
Wow, you a redneck or something?
>>54452154
I think you literally might be autistic.
Is your last name Lanza?
Sure sounds like it is, or atleast will be.
>>54452154
>he thinks he's rich
>>54452178
No. I, unlike you, are not a subhuman. My family owns a large corporation in this horrible shithole of a country. You don't deserve to know which. One day, I will ensure class warfare is a reality, so that you will be hunted like the animal you are, whore.
>>54452179
Sure, call me autistic, whatever it takes to make yourself feel less poor. One day, the ones who deserve to be called human will rule over you subhuman filth.
>>54452154
>>54452173
>>54452213
Wow, this is comedy gold
>>54452213
Excuse me, *am not a subhuman.
>>54452213
>One day,
>I will
>ensure
sure thing friendo. keep posting my sides are in orbit
>>54452213
>I, unlike you, are not a subhuman
>I... are
>I are
Confirmed uneducated redneck, voting for Trump, eh? You poor piece of white trash, your days are numbered. Why don't you go smoke some meth and fuck your mother while you still can, you degenerate fuck.
>>54452241
Read >>54452234
and weep.
I correct my mistakes
Whereas you are a mistake.
>>54447727
I tried them and didn't find them that great, mostly side by side and top bottom 360 sphere and 180 dome videos.
Couldn't set it up right on Vive, everything looks largeHuge. If you set it to SBS on screen and zoom out a little to get to 1:1 scale then the illusion of presence is broken since you can see the edges of the screen easily.
>>54452288
Sure roasted him kiddo, aren't you cool?
I used to be edgy and pretend i was rich when i was twelve, but i grew out of it dude, don't make this who you are as a person.
>>54452241
>white
>days numbered
No, degenerate. The only color of skin that deserves to live are whites, and this is as God has said it to be.
In reality, your days are numbered, whatever your disgusting non-white skin color is. I will ensure laws are purchased that legalize cleansing of your degenerate unwhite filth.
>>54452338
This is a satire of /pol/ right?
>>54452352
Fuck you caught me.
Fuck you.
>>54450519
Actually with the gear vr that came with the recent s7's we're in the beginning of the early adopters phase.
>>54439083
I love my Vive and have been enjoying some of its content, but I have several issues with it.
>Horrible strap system for HMD
>There needs to be an option to filter tracking movement in software
>steam desktop mode needs more extensive options, like floating overlay and distance setting.
>Too heavy, really tiring on the neck. Putting it on is a commitment.
>Resolution still not quite where I want it to be but tolerable.
>Cable is such a pain in the ass.
>Cannot boot the headset with the menu button on the side
>They should have added a second button to the HMD for confirmation so you can use it for menu navigation if not using motion controllers.
Some of the games on it are fun and I can appreciate the medium, but there hasn't been a single title I've been extremely sucked into.
My favourites so far are
>Quar Battle for Gate 18
>Vanishing Realms
>Space pirate trainer
>The Lab
Alt space VR was surprisingly good as well, though that is not a game. More of a metaverse social platform where you create an avatar and chat with people/ fuck around and play minigames with them.
Janus VR looks interesting as well, but I won't be using it until they implement room scale/teleportation support since trackpad locomotion makes me want to barf my innards.
Its funny, I'm starting find metaverse applications and other none game applications such as that human body point cloud scan and solar system exhibition more interesting than playing video games.
>>54447532
Speaking of Virtual Desktop, it really needs motion controller support.
VR is going to stay shit for as long as they don't find a proper way to increase the field of view.
