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Post your reviews of Android or Windows tablets.
Recommend tablets.
Best bang for your buck? Upcoming?
/Tablet General/
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Posting from my Chuwi hi12 right now. Have had it for 4 days and am a big fan so far. Battery life is good (though charging through usb is fucking dumb). Windows runs well and android is fast as he'll, though wifi is acting funky today. Kodi is running great also. The screen is beautiful to boot. All in all pretty happy
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>>54437748
that's nice to hear, I'm thinking about orderong a Hi10 or Hibook.
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>>54438212
Don't.

Get a Nextbook http://www.nextbookusa.com/

Less chinky than Chuwi and more versatile.
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Thinking of getting a Windows tablet for manga and anime and visual novels...
What is the best image viewer for reading manga on Windows? Tap or swipe to go to the next page is a must. Going to the next chapter in thr directory would be nice too...
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>>54437232
I have a pro 3

I have never used it as a tablet
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>>54438260
Oh, I'll check those out. Thanks
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>>54438358
I use the Batato website for my manga.
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>>54438358

I use Comics++ on my Venue 8 Pro, no complaints. It's UI is very touch focused, swipe to change pages, pinch zoom, etc. Remembers your spot when re-launching, has bookmarks, and all the other features you'd expect from a comic reader.
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I like my Surface Pro 3 for notes
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>>54438260
>more expensive
>shitty screen reso
>2 gb ram

eh i rather buy a surface than that shit
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>Chuwi Hi8
Pretty OK for tablet activities (watching stuff, games, etc) but Windows 10 gets worse as time goes on though as many of the updates fail. It also has super-shitty battery life so you're tethered to a wall (and you'll need a nice charger or it'll just slow down the battery drain). Oh, and the screen tops out at 50Hz so things don't look all that smooth on the Android side.

It can handle PS4 Remote Play (540p@60Hz) and Xbox streaming (on Med) though, so there's that.
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>>54439687
Surface: $900
Nextbook: $120
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Iv got a Linx 8inch windows tablet. Cost me £60 its great for browsing on the swanny.
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How's the surface pro ? I've heard it's buggy and has a shit battery life
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>>54437232
Iconia tab a500 here. 10-100% in under 2 hours. Good battery life. Updated to jellybean 4.1.2, performance is pretty shit but it has a micro SD AND full sized USB port so it's pretty nice to use. Camera is horse shit. I refuse to move on thanks to the usb port though.

Would love it if it got a modern refresh, would pay ~250 aud for it

Use it for ebooks and movies currently. Battery life is ~9 hours SoT.
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>>54440033
i rather buy a decent product that some low spec piece of shit, regardless of where it was made
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>>54439684
mistake or you gimped that shit?
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>>54437232
Surface 3.
Works fucking great as a drawing tablet with perfect tip calibration, there's some jitter issues if you draw really slow lines, doesn't affect me since I do really fast strokes. Pressure levels are low at 256 levels, but in my experience it still responds better than the 1024 level Wacom-powered Surface Pro 1 I had previously.

It's meh as a laptop, garbage as a general purpose (ipad-like) tablet.

The keyboard is decent with a definite click with each keypress, the trackpad is super-responsive and accurate, but it's way too fucking small.
Battery life is very decent and I can charge it with any 2A powerbank when out and about.
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>>54443528
It is a bit optimistic but with brightness turned down, wifi, off, battery saver on, and only Onenote running I've seen it lose about 6-7% every hour
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>>54438260
Might as well get an ASUS Transformerbook.
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>>54442244
I had a pro 2 and it was not buggy at all (other than mediocre palm rejection on windows 10) but the battery life suffered. It was ok at best.
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>>54442244
SP3 owner here, was buggy at first but updates fixed, battery life is great though unless you use Chrome
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>>54443705
Power Saving mode really helps on the Surface Pro 1 & 2, have you tried that?
(4 hours increased to 5.5 hours on my Surface Pro 1)
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All in ones are a massive fucking meme. Seriously don't buy a Surface Pro or any kind of copy, you will regret it so much. I was given one to use for work and after about two weeks I reverted to using the shitty old laptop I used before it because the Pro is so shit. It has been sat in my work desk drawer untouched for like 6 months now.
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>>54443814
Nice points you have there
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>>54443814
No, Android tablets are the true shitty memes. iPad for casual web browsing (because there's no apps worth a shit), so that leaves Windows winning by default, but for the love of god, get a Windows tablet with Active stylus support.
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>>54443873
Using my Android tablet right now. It's pretty good.

Soz for shit quality, phone sucks at low light.
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>>54443873
Tablets are a meme overall, Android support is shit, Windows is bloat city, and iPads are overpriced as fuck. I guess I shouldn't be in this thread but I don't see the point in tablets at all. I have a laptop and a phone, tablets try to be a middle ground and completely fall at being useful. A tablet/laptop is obviously going to be shit because it's just compromising again.
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>>54437748
Sadly it's z8300 shit tier slowness :(
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>>54443961
Sorry you can't get an X86 tablet running Gentoo
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Teclast p70. It looks like old samshit tablet, but it's a decent tablet for its price (around 80 bucks or so)

>7" IPS screen, 720p resolution
>octacore mtk8392 chip, 1gb ram
>scores about 33k on antutu benchmark
>stock android 4.4
>3g connection, can make phone call (which looks dumb, but still makes for a good backup phone)
>roughly 5 hours SoT
>expandable storage(up to 32gb)
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>>54443972
Fuck off with your shitty bait.
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Surface Pro 4 and it feels great senpai
Full power apps like Clip Studio for drawing smut, real gaymin via steam, can run vm's of win 7 for eroge all day, facial recognition for fast login.
And thanks to Windows 10 Pro Telemetry edition Microcuck has enough pictures of my dick to 3D print their own copy.
Feeeeels niiiiice~
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iPad pro 9.7 is objectively the best tablet i the market right now

>perfect size
>retina(tm) screen, best looking in the market
>actually has good and useful tablet optimized apps
>Android barely has any tablet apps, most are just stretched phone apps
>Windows should be used with a mouse and keyboard, its useless as a tablet. Windows store apps are even bigger joke
>dat true tone (tm) display for ultimate comfyness (that is what all tablet are about)
>beast A9X SoC so its piratically future proof
>best pen support for drawing in the market if you're into that
>just werks, doesn't lag
>updates forever
>best build quality, good looking

etc

Don't be a poorfag and settle for less.
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>>54444042
forgot pic
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>>54442244
The only problem with the surface are the the applications that aren't optimazed for high ppi and touchscreen
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>>54444076
>ARM over x86

There are so many better things I could do with the money I save by not buying an iPad
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>>54444082
Most programs I've used scale just fine, I really only ran into problems with obscure shit and Steam not wanting to follow Microsoft's UI guidelines

Like what the fuck, Valve? May as well not even have a touchscreen
Their mobile app sucks ass too
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>>54444098
Pretty much this. If I was going to buy an arm tablet, I'd buy an Android for a quarter the price. IPads are a waste of money.
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>>54444120
The biggest problem I had was with VLC,all the buttons size are like 3x3mm and the version on the windows store sucks hard.
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>>54444098
Welcome to the future grandpa. A9X sends regards.

>>54444127
Not really. Any comparable tablets with the same specs will cost you the same. And iPads, like any apple product, have almost zero depreciation. So you can always resell for almost the same price. That's the opposite of wast of money.
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>>54438260
Can confirm that these are great. Price/performance is unbeatable. One of the best purchases I have made.
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>>54444164
>comparable
Arm is shit. Why waste money on an iPad when I can buy a cheaper arm tablet that'll still give plenty performance for my uses?

I don't care about resell value, I use it till it dies, then I upgrade.

Are you telling me a cheap android won't be good enough for web browsing, video playback, documents, and ebooks?
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>>54444156
I thought VLC was a lost cause, but then I learned that the desktop version has touch and gesture support
>2 finger tap to play/pause
>swipe back and forward to jump by 10 seconds

>>54444164
Sorry but x86 has managed to reduce its power usage faster than ARM can up it's processing capabilities, see the Zenfone 2

Also
>caring so much about processor power in a fucking tablet
Do you really need all that power to play fucking Clash? Or is it to render webpages with Safari's shitty engine they shove onto everyone?
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>>54437232
Posting from a t100HA

Extremely impressed, the keyboard is 10" but they have great travel and can easily write a few paragraphs, even has a menu key. Hate that the pgup/dwn, home/end buttons are on the arrows, plus only one fn-key with is on the right

Screen is very bright and vibrant, but 1280x800 is the res :(, not that much of a bother, really. I still read numerous books and wikis on this thing no problem. Just don't take it in direct sunlight because It's horrible in SL.

what more can I ask of it's speed at $270? I browse, play hearthstone, risk of rain, stream fm15 on steam, and chromecast webpages with html5 video on a regular and have no complains

volume and power keys are hard, it also has 2 cams (back one is decent), mini hdmi, micro usb (for charging), 2.5 mm, sdcard slot and usb-c

charging doesn't take long with the stock/fast charger, otherwise it takes like 12 hours. Battery, btw is the highlight of this imo; I get like 11/9 hours (mild use/sot) on this thing

Trackpad is decent. One thing I don't like about this thing is that it sometimes hangs when coming from sleep or the power button is sometimes tricky to press. This happens like 1/9 times every other day.
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>>54444218
>>54444226

Fine by me if you want to settle for laggy shit

And like I said, the fact the processor is so good means the tablet will last you for as long as you like, specially since apple will keep updating it with the latest features.

True tone display alone sold it for me.
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>>54444098
>>54444127
>>54444218
>>54444226

For real though, really enjoying the iPad Pro as a sketching tablet.
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>>54444314
>Apple updates
>last you as long as you like
That's when you gave yourself away, ruseman
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>>54444314
>>54444164
are you a fucking idiot? Are there really apple shills on /g/? Fucking hell.

m8, i bet you've never used a cherrytrail or baytrail tablet
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>>54444336
>implying it doesn't
That's when you gave yourself away, jelly poorfag

>>54444351
What is that? A fucking windows tablet?

haha good joke mane
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>>54444314
>tfw still using my Android tablet from 2011
>tfw still no lag
>tfw no face
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>>54444372
>Applefag's only argument ever is calling others poor
>at the same time they worry about resale value
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>>54444320
>$1000 ARM tablet
Jesus fuck, I could rebuild the soft top for my car with that money, or do a complete suspension overhaul
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>>54444396
>>at the same time they worry about resale value
I'm not not worried.

I'm just not stupid to pay a lot money for something that looses all its value as soon as I open it.


>>54444395
Yes its laggy. Compared to an iPad its very very laggy
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>>54444418
It's okay, his parents like spoiling him with all the latest apple shit
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>>54444422
>compared to an iPad
Have you done a side by side comparison? Could you upload the video?
Thanks.
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>>54444422
So may as well get one of those Thinkpad tablets that can't lose its value anymore, it's probably even more useful
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>>54444425
Good grief, what a world we live in
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>>54444450
top delusion

>>54444452
why would I buy a windows tablet though?
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>>54444492
Because it's a real computer and not an overpriced toy for manchildren?
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>>54444422
honestly, repoted.

Your fucking trolling had degraded a potentially good discussion

go back to school, if you're really not trolling.

God
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>>54443972
>z8300
The Cherry Trail series for Atoms aren't bad at all. They outperform some Celerons
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>>54444422
>no lag
>but laggy when compared to an iPad
APPLE SHILLING EVERYONE.
You sound like you spent too much on a product and don't want to be the only one who fell for a meme.

An iPad is overpriced and garbage. If I'm limited to a mobile os I'd rather something functional like android
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>>54444492
don't ok? don't
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>>54444517
A9X chips perform nearly the same as an i3/i5.
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>>54444511
If mods actually gave a shit Apple stuff would be treated like MLP on /co/
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>>54444535
Except it doesn't
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>>54444517
can attest

though z8500 runs dolphin really well
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>>54444535
>A9X
>ARM

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>54444076
i really like it
but i think i would rather wait and see if they make a mini version i was in BB the other day and comparing this thing tot he 12.5 pro was ridiculous , the 12.5 is ridiculously huge this feels good in comparison but i still like smaller tabs
also i will need jailbreak or it's a dealbreaker especially now since youtube removed background play , it used to just always work in IOS till this red shit , i didn't even update the app and now it don't work anymore
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>>54444537
God, never thought of this

glorious idea anon

>>54444535
reported
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>>54444517
Bay trail here. I'm satisfied, t100ta.

Only issue is Linux support.
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>>54444517
z8300 is still shitload slower than z8500
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>>54444558
aye senpai I had one too

now i have a t100ha
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>>54444507
>a real computer

My real computer is a notebook. I dont need another one in the form of a poorly optimized tablet.

>>54444511
Nice arguments kid

Do cool kid in you school use ipads? Thats why you hate apple
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>>54437232

I have a Surface book (stock model) and I fucking love it.

I love the design, it's fast, and I actually use the tablet portion a lot. I also like to handwrite notes so that's nice.

It's a steep price if you're looking for a tablet, but as an ultrabook it's pretty darn cool, not terribly light though.
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>>54444519
If it does something 3 times slower than something else I think its fair to call it laggy
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>>54444558
Nice, those are great tablets.
>>54444570
Yeah I know but the X5 Atom series in general is great.
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>>54444577
>Do cool kid in you school use ipads? Thats why you hate apple


>Do cool kid
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>>54444554
>>54444555
>>54444557
>http://wccftech.com/apple-a9xipad-pro-benchmarks/
Clearly not the desktop parts, but the lower end mobile chips you filthy mouthbreathers. A9X is then clearly superior to your disgusting plebian atoms.
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>>54444585
>I actually use the tablet portion a lot
How do you deal with the 2 hour battery life?
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>>54444591
>X5 Atom series in general is great.

too bad atom is kill...

hope they innovate the fuck out of core m, though
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>>54444603
>benchmark

my perception of you is evolving
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>>54444575
>>54444591
Battery life is amazing. Used to get 2 hours on my old laptop, now I'm getting 12 hours.

>>54444588
If my 5 year old acer does things only 3 times slower than your iPad that you claim is as powerful as an i5, then that's all the more reason not to buy the stupid iPad.
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>>54444603
>Geekbench
Ctrl + W so hard
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cube i7 stylus here.

It's nice enough, but the coreM only really comes into it's own when you improve the heatsink. I'm converted to fully passive cooling and ssds when it comes to portable computers now. Shoddy battery life though. I normally just leave it in the keyboard dock, which I think is better than the fabric board covers
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>>54444611

Keeping the brightness low helps. But usually I just cart it around the house or bring my charger with me if I am just bringing the tablet portion.

Honestly though, it hasn't been a problem for me since if I'm using it as a tablet I'm constantly turning it on and off. But it definitely shows that Microsoft was really going more for an ultrabook that can be a tablet sometimes rather that a tablet that barely has the computing power to be an ultrabook.
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>>54444603
You shouldn't believe everything you read online, it can get confusing when you're this retarded
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>>54444611
a few people don't know this but background apps really fuck up battery life

search for it and disable the ones you don't use
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>>54444633
my that's transformer book for you, my ha get about the same

ASUS is doing wonder rn
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>>54444076
I would definitely buy one right now if I had money

Windows tablets are more useful, but Windows just simply doesn't work in tablet mode. And if I already have a notebook why would you need another windows machine?

The way I see it, tablets need mobile OS, they are not supposed to do heavy productivity work, they are supposed to be comfortable. And the iPad is just the king in that. Is fast, smooth and just werks.

Android does have a file system but I never use it thb, and its not like you cant work around that. Online storage exits.

Posted from my shitty LG tablet
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>>54444698
>this much projection

ugh, summer is truly near
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Xiaomi Mi pad 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_aPUi_a50

I'm sending it back this week though the flickering screen is doing my head in.
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Posting from my $40 Amazon Fire Kindle. It's perfect for my needs.
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>>54437232

Pro 3 owner (i7, 8GB RAM, 512GB)

Pro's:
>Full windows 8.1, runs all muh programs as capably as my desktop
>Good screen, very nice to use
>Good battery
>Good pen, very useful for quick hybrid operation in 'laptop' mode (much faster than using trackpad)
>USB 3.0 port is super handy
>MicroSD slot for extra storage if you're too poor or autistic to spend out on the bigger SSD

Cons:
>Audio driver and/or hardware is shit and 'pops' on the 3.5mm output when switching applications
>Gets hot and noisy fan under heavy load (no different to my rMBP which does exactly the same)
>Most aftermarket cases/sleeves are shit and make it 2x big and heavy, also fucks with the cooling
>Can't disable the stupid purple Onenote shortcut button on the end of the pen, always fucks my shit up when I accidently press it
>Pen doesn't attach/store
>Pro 3 typecover sucks compared to Pro 4
>Windows scaling is shit so some software UI is super tiny
>Rarely use it as an actual tablet
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>>54444698
This is very obviously a shill post.

Try harder.
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>>54444670
Instead of posting memes post some evidence to support your claim. I think its a fair assessment to say for tablet applications, the a9 will nearly give you x86 performance. Furthermore, the entire iPad package is just a better option than some cheap chinese shit/poorfag android tablet.
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>>54444712
why are you mad though

I'm not projecting anything, it's just my opinion, It's how I use tablets.
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>>54444727
Windows 10 fixes some of those cons, And I'm sure the Surface app lets you disable the purple Onenote buttons as well as the soft touch key on the screen

And the Pro 4 keyboard works on the Pro 3
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>>54444719
oh yeah forgot about this, good device on paper though no sdcard


>I'm sending it back this week though the flickering screen is doing my head in.

you have it and it's giving problems? Explain, don't quite understand
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>>54444734
>stop liking what I dont like waaa

- /g/
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surface pro 3 here, currently using it outside home, it's great to have a computing device that can do "actual" computer stuff

the only thing that makes the experience not perfect is the fact that the keyboard doesn't hold the tablet up
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>>54444734
pls, just stop replying to him.
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>>54444743
Here you go, just in case you're not an autistic troll or a shill.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3006268/tablets/tested-why-the-ipad-pro-really-isnt-as-fast-a-laptop.html
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>>54444796
mate, don't bother

honestly there should be an unwritten rule to not answer appshills

obviously it doesn't make any fucking sense to compare 2 architectures considering they don't share any applications

why even bother answering him? just adding fuel to fire, m8
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>>54444726
just bought a second one yesterday

i already bought 2 ,one for dad


but one i bought yesterday was on 5.1.1

mine is on 5.0.1 TWRP

i was really disappointed i could not find older stock ,went to 2 BB

the one i have on 5.0.1 has a dead pixel and the both 1st 2 i bought have ghosting/image burn in issues
i accidentally updated one of the 1st 2 i bought to 5.1.1 so now i only have 1 on 5.0.1

but i have super SU ,resurection remix custom rom and xposed on all
but still like having TWRP and being able to flash custom boot animations

it's a good tablet, runs kodi well and N64 emulation is pretty good too
the only issue is the low resolution for reading and the bad ghosting image burn these things get and also battery is wonky but what do you want for 40 /50 $
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>>54444767
It's in the video I did about the problems of the mi pad 2, there's quite a few, I start going through the problems about half way into the video.
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>>54444796
It's actually impressive how well the iPad does in some of those test

Its really still not the same as laptop CPU but I'm looking forward to see what future holds for ARM

To me the only thing right now that stops ARM from being more relevant is the fact that devs have no incentive to develop desktop-like apps for it.

And that is mainly because most ARM processors are in phones or other non-professional devices. The iPad Pro as well as various other android tablets did change that a little in recent times but Android and iOS are still too limiting IMO

not the quoted guy btw just my opnion
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>>54444780
I like the kickstand better though, you can pop the keyboad off and watch stuff on the kitchen table while eating
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>>54444883
oh ok, cheers

see u in csg
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>>54444891
Problem with arm is, manufacturers add hardware acceleration targeted at benchmarks to make the processors look better than they really are. Something like a mtk6795 or a9 is still plenty for the average user, even on a desktop.
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>>54444743
A9X doesn't even come close to any x86 chip. It gets a high Geekbench 3 score because it cheats a lot in SHA1 score via hardware acceleration, which no longer has any practical application, Apple stopped signing apps with SHA1 months ago.
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>>54444320
>>sketching tablet
> 12" 128GB + Pencil = $1050
> Surface Pro 4 + KB(i5, 256GB) = $1150
> Cintiq 13HD = $950
> Huion 22" HD = $750
> Intuos Pro Large (15" active area)= $400
> Huion Giano WH1409 (16" active area) = $160
Did you really want to draw at Starbucks that much now that you think about it?
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>>54444957
yeah now compare the TDP

x86 chips suck for mobile
they get too hot and burn too much battery

intels ultramobile line is pure shit
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alright i got a question

ive got a computer running windows and a tablet running windows,both have steam installed

if i stream my desktop to my tablet with steam,and i open photoshop

would the tablet send the variable pressure data from the stylus to photoshop?
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>>54445159
I doubt it, Steam already sucks ass with touchscreens and the host computer needs the digitizer stylus drivers as well
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>>54445080
iPad Pro is most likely rated at 4W TDP according to Anandtech's analysis.
Core M is configurable from 4.5W to 6.5W TDP, which affects the turbo frequency.
Atom is 2W but in my tests the Z8700 consumes 1.6W with all 4 cores maxed out turbo at 2.4GHz.
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>>54445080
Counterpoint: Zenfone 2
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>>54445196
are there any alternative to steam in home streaming that would let me stream games and programs at 60fps without horrid delay?

Basically i would set up linux on the tablet with a VNC streaming my desktop to it.
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>>54445238
>z8500
yeah core M is a step in the right direction
they have 1/3 the TDP as the ultramobile U series chips
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>>54445287
ignore z8500 quote
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>>54445283
Use remote access to a server
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>>54445287
The Atom Z8700 performs better than Broadwell Core M in sustained loads because it throttles so fucking much.
Skylake however really gave Core M a big push in the right direction, the 2016 Macbook can run at full turbo frequency on both cores for 15 minutes before it slowly throttles from 2.7 to 2.2GHz.

Atom might bare the shitty reputation, but with BayTrail beyond, it is a very decent chip considering how it consumes much less power than most ARM platforms. The only issue is with standby times on Windows.
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>>54439684
I bought a Surface Pro 3 exclusively to play OSU!.
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How is web browsing with the surface pro 4 in tablet mode ? I heard chrome is terrible for the battery. Is it easy to use firefox without a mouse ? Or maybe edge is advised.

I am really tempted by it as I'll be abroad for a few months, and I won't bring my desktop. I need a temporary replacement, but I want something I can use even after I come back (as a tablet for example). A regular laptop might be fine but I won't use it after these few months.
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>>54445400
Make sure you play the originals too, anon
Couldn't you have gotten a cheaper Surface 3/2 for the same results though?
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why so many people posting converts and full win machines this is supposed to be a tablet thread
surface, surface book do not count

i just bought a couple cheap fire 7 5th gens to root and run custom rom on
i am still waiting for a decent android tablet
waiting for a shield 2 x1 or nexus 7 2016 model
are these machines vaporware?
shield 2 x1 was spotted on benchmark sites back in november
was supposed to be released last july

nexus 7 2016 was rumored to be unveiled in may at goolge I/O now rumors are it's vaporware
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>>54445536
I use Chrome when plugged in but Edge when on battery

Get a longer power cable, the stock one is way too short. I use this 15ft cord:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=7674
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>>54445583
>useful tablets don't count
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>>54445618
they are not tablets they are full windows machines, they are laptops not tablets
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>>54445637
You wrong, but I mean whatever helps you sleep at night, dude
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>>54445555
Nice trips, I will. The Surface 3 wasn't out at the time and I didn't want RT cancer. Also, even though I'm only part time, I was able to get a pretty generous discount on the SP3, making the difference in price between it and the SP2 negligible.
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>>54445670
no
it's a different category
surface book and surface are classed as ultrabook/laptop convertibles they are not classed as tablets
tablets are ipads and android tablets and other windows tablets
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>>54445728
Too bad faggot, the Surface is still the best tablet you can buy
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>>54445740
thats because it's not a tablet, it's a laptop
and it is priced as a laptop too
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>>54445728
>Surface
>Ultrabook
>Keyboard is an accessory

Just because they function a lot better as improvised notebooks than your iCancer doesn't make them such. You're moving the goalposts because they otherwise utterly humble everything else.
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>>54445757
Is the iPad Pro a laptop too? I mean it's priced like one
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>>54445740
>Too bad faggot, the Surface is still the best tablet you can buy

Wrong

see >>54444076
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>>54445821
>Overpriced ARM based facebook machine
>Best
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>>54445821
>ARM shit
>good
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I have samsung galaxy tab s 10.5
Its ok for most tasks (though somewhat underpowered due to age) but its amoled 2560x1600 screen is god tier for watching movies also for pictures (if anyones into photography)
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>>54445038
>> Huion Giano WH1409 (16" active area) = $160
> 16" of long, hard active area
>mfw I paid half that for a 7" Intuos Small 3 years ago
h-hold me, /g/
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>>54445836
What is wrong with ARM? Performance is more than enough for everything a tablet needs to do.

And its its definitely not overpriced. Might be out of your price range but for those specs you get what you paid
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>>54444076
Had one for 2 days. Sent it back because my Surface 3 (not even pro) was still better.

The iPad was literally a $1000 web browsing appliance. Pencil had jitter issues no matter how fast you draw a line so Line art on it is a definite no. It's only useful for sketching, which is what paper is for.
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>>54445893
>Performance is more than enough for everything a tablet needs to do.

Browsing facebook and running ham-stringed imitations of actual photo editing software doesn't count.
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>>54445778
no it's not but yes it is priced like one
it is a still a tablet because it runs IOS and not OSX
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>>54445903
>Pencil had jitter issues no matter how fast you draw a line so Line art on it is a definite no.
That's a feature, it's meant to imitate the jitter of a real pencil. You were holding it wrong. Shut up.
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>>54445893
>What is wrong with ARM?
You seem to be new to computers in general. ARM devices don't let you run proper desktop and productivity applications

>you get what you paid
Unless you buy Apple products
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>>54445933
Apple thinks of everything!
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>>54445924
Autism
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>>54445951
I'm sure they'll introduce a second version without the jitter (and with new apps completely incompatible with the old one) so their fans can rave about how every other tablet has stylus jitter.
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>>54445963
me or apple?

surface and surface book hade full size USB ports and run full windows ,so they are not tablets, they are full laptops or ultrabooks, ultrabook convertibles
they have keyboard docks as well
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>>54445903
Better how

As a laptop? maybe As a tablet? nope

>Pencil had jitter issues
you probably just too dumb to use it because I never saw anyone report that before.

>>54445918
>>54445935

I have a notebook for the things I cant do on my tablet.

Surface is a pointless product. Its inferior to a decent notebook in every way, why would pay extra just to get it in a inferior form?
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>>54445994
>if it doesn't have features that make it useful, it's not a tablet
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>>54446014
>Surface is a pointless product. Its inferior to a decent notebook in every way, why would pay extra just to get it in a inferior form?

Stops you having to carry around and keep data parity between two devices. It's a god tier note taker, especially for STEM where you often want to quickly switch to sketching. I used to use and still have an X220t, I find the shortcomings of the Surface keyboard are a lot less of a hindrance to note taking than the shortcomings of trying to do digital inking on a device approaching an inch thick.
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>>54444290
>t100HA
Only have a couple things to complain. There's no small door or anything keeping the microSD card from popping out and the balance isn't too great; the keyboard is very light and trips over too easily which might end up with the laptop falling from your lap if you don't pay attention.

But good for the price, enough for laptop usage. Not going to stick with it forever though if something with better keyboard, better specs and more memory space comes to market with similar battery life and price.
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>>54445994
You, defianetly you
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>>54444425
Do people making purchases that don't affect you really upset you this much, or do you need to fill out your meme quota?

>>54445038
>Surface Pro
I wasn't satisfied with the pen/response when I tried my friends tablet. Being able to use a full photoshop was nice, but pen capability/accuracy was more important to me. Procreate and Sketchbook are more than servicable.
>Cintiq 13HD
The poor resolution and being tethered to a desktop eventually put me off. When I buy a Cintiq, it'll be the 27QHD or whichever product they replace it. While the active area is a bit larger, it still has the issue of it being taken up by desktop UI elements.
>Huion
This is the dumbest reason, but I don't particularly trust those kinds of brands, especially in the driver department. It's not the smartest choice finance wise, but I'd rather pay (a lot) more for "it just werks" than a potentially shitty experience with minimal support. The only one I'd consider would be the Artisul D13.

>Intuos Pro Large
This is a drawing tablet, not a display tablet. I'm tired of dealing with the disconnect between where you're drawing and where it's being displayed.

Some of these alternatives work for people, they didn't for me.
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>>54446043
This. Surface is god tier for students who are in actual courses and not arts/comp sci
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>>54446071
>Spending almost 10 times as much to draw hentai because of your insecurities
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>>54445903
>jitter issues

Even if it did (which it doesn't), what situation would you ever draw a line that slow. Secondly, you're confusing the tiny shaking of your hand for jitter.
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>>54446071
Does Procreate still have issues with Palm rejection? That really fucking pissed me off when I had my iPad. It rejects palm markings fine, but the side controls activate in the middle of a pen stroke.
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>>54446150
>You're using it wrong
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>>54446152
I've not had any problems with my palm activating anything, but I did also set finger mode to gestures only, so I'm not sure if that's the reason.
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>>54446102
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>>54446552
>not buying the Huion for $160
That's why I called you insecure
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>>54446581
What does that even mean. I'm insecure because I buy what I want to? Ok guy.
>>>54437664
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>>54446606
>I don't particularly trust those kinds of brands
Yup, insecure and afraid
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>>54444912
I actually do that, it's just that it's a pain to use outside
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Lenovo Miix 300 10"
>Windows 10 Home edition
>Intel Atom quad core
>2GB RAM
>32GB internal storage + MicroSD slot
>Detachable keyboard with a solid touch pad and two full sized USB 2.0 ports
>6~8 hours battery life depending on usage
>Charges within 1.5 hours
>Low sound volume, but not an issue as I use headphones anyway
>€250
It works wonders as a comic book reader, casual browsing tablet and watching movies on the train.

>>54438358
ComicRack supports CBR, archived images, network shares and has a nice adaptive setting that recognises when one image contains two pages. Combine that with one if the many manga downloaders from Github and you've got a solid comic book reader.
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>>54446071
>I'm tired of dealing with the disconnect between where you're drawing and where it's being displayed.
Put the tablet directly in front of you, it help a lot more than you'd think.
Also, buying more expensive goods will never improve your art, only practice will; a friend of mine is an incredible artist and still owns an Intuos Small (desk-space constraints), it just takes about 2-4 weeks of trying to get completely used to.

>more than serviceable
That shouldn't be the standard on $1000+ products, though Astropad helps fix that if you already own a mac
>poor resolution
FHD is good for a 13.3", stops the UI from getting too small on the tiny screen. It was just an example anyway, I would never use a 13" display for art
>Huion
I get the brand loyalty with Wacom but Huion is pretty much -the- /ic/ tablet brand. Other alternatives like Ugee, MP and even Asus are out there producing some good stuff.
>drawing tablet
Officially called a "Graphic tablet" for reasons
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>>54446884
>a fucking Xbox controller
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>>54446581
>Buying chink graphics tablet
Enjoy your 3xAA batteries in the pen with awful input lag and parallax.
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>>54446925
it's the best controller to play PC games with
>inb4 /v/
DOESN'T MATTER LOOK AT THOSE HANDS/FEET, LOOK AT THAT LINE ART, LOOK AT THOSE COLOURS GOD FUCK I WANNA CRY PIGEON PLEASE WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD
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>>54446993
I'm just pointing out how out of place it is
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I just got an HP Envy 8 Note.

Pretty good so far. Fits in my pockets, has a nice keyboard and a nice screen.

7.4/10
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>>54444912
>>54446795
Maximum comfy
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>>54447116
>vlc
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>>54447139
Does it trigger you, anon?
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>>54446993
Expect it's not and the power of PC gaming is that you get to pick the right tool for the job. Xbone controllers, retro controllers, racing wheels, flight sticks/joysticks and even the Steam controller are all well designed for specific purposes.
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>>54446651
>>54446884
ok
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>>54447116
>comfy
>shitty little screen
>windows
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>>54447193
Yes anon, let me just bring a 50 inch TV with me while I'm away for school
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>>54447215
Id rather have a decent sized 13-15 laptop than this garbage.
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Those dual boot atom tablets sound appealing.

How does the z8300 stack up against top tier snapdragons in android?
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>>54447193
The hell does Windows have to do with any of that?
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>>54447239
Just install Android x86 on a decent Windows tablet.
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>>54447238
And the screen farther away because the keyboard gets in the way?
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>>54447242
>windows on a tablet
>comfy

huehue
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>>54447260
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>>54447254
Keyboard gets in the way? In the way of what?
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>>54447288
Food silly, what do you think the discussion was about?
Did you just see a Surface and start shitposting?
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>>54447283
>I use this OS that is only useful with a mouse and keyboard with a touch screen It's comfy I swear guys
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>>54447316
>only useful with a mouse and keyboard with a touch screen
So what's your idea of comfy? Voice control? Mind reading?
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>>54447310
So you bought that shit just because at the times you're eating at the tablet and watching anime you can position your plate right in front of the screen?

At every other occasion you just have to deal with a shitty little screen?

Great logic
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>>54447168
another convert, now post your work
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>>54447378
Note taking and general laptop things are pretty handy too
>>54439684

Why do I even bother wasting my time with you idiots, I should just fuck off back to /o/, /g/'s gone to shit
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>>54447378
Not him, but I use my 10" convertible as a side device. Sometimes you just don't feel like using a desktop or bringing a 15" ultra book with you just so you can do light browsing and media consumption on the go.
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>>54447252
I'm looking at 10" tablets on banggood and I'm liking what I'm seeing for the price.
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>>54447378
Yes anon, he spent $1300+ on a device just to watch shit and eat on the kitchen table, that's its only function you god damn genius
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>>54447419
ok whatever, if you're happy fine.

The way I see it, tablets are small and light for portability and comfort. They shouldn't be used for anything other than light shit like web browsing or maybe to read some PDFs or maybe take notes like you said.

But to me it sounds like you're using as your computer and that is just dumb and impractical.

And that is why I think surface is failure. Everyone has a notebook already.
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>>54447512
Why would I bring multiple devices along with me when I leave for school when the my Surface can pull double duty as a full blown Windows machine?
If I really wanted I could hook up an external monitor and mouse and keyboard to use it like a desktop
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>>54447533
Because they're not the same. They're a lot heavier, thicker and they don't have Retina screens.
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>>54447533
You can't have 2 devices in the same house?

I guess that is the concept behind the surface. But I think its stupid.

Its much better to have a notebook for notebook shit and a tablet for tablet shit than one device that is inferior to both.
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>>54447628
It's a pain in the ass having 2 devices when I'm living in a cramped apartment thousands of kilometres from home
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>>54447642
I'm just sorry for you having to do school work on a small windows tablet. Should have gotten a decent notebook if you're that autistic.

I guess you don't know because the surface is probably a brick but tablets are usually thin and light, i'ts not really any trouble to have one.

I live in a cramped apartment as well, don't really see how that is a problem. Whenever I go to my classes I can either bring my notebook and carry some extra weight if I intend to do something heavier or I can just take my tablet if all I'm going to do is read some PDFs or web browsing.
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>>54437232
will only choose windows/intel cpu tablets
>quad core 2GB ram
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>>54447859
You don't actually need an i7 and 16GB of RAM for typical tablet usage (ie web browsing and media consumption). 32bit Windows 10 runs just fine on an Atom quad core and 2GB worth of RAM. Besides, even when it runs out of RAM the fast internal storage makes it so you will barely notice it when data gets relocated to or from the page file.
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>>54447773
I don't think you followed the chain of replies, a regular notebook would be less useful for me since I write out my notes

Don't go feeling sorry for me if you don't understand what I'm using my device for
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just ordered this shit.

Remember guys chinese are the most powerful race is the world
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>>54441848

I've got the first gen Linx 8 and also the Linx 1010B.

1010B is great as a hybrid - the keyboard dock and battery life are both excellent and it even has 2 full size USBs. The trade-off is 800p and size, but I definitely recommend it.

The 8 I'm less sure on. atm I just use it next to my TV for Kodi. Windows 10 is absolute shit on a tablet of that size imo and 1GB RAM makes it noticeably slower than the 10.

Might upgrade the 8 to a Chinky dual boot. Sick of Windows 10 as a tablet OS.
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>>54447116
nigger I'm already hungry and ur not helping
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>>54448399

I almost ordered at one point but apparently it throttles like fuck because of shit cooling. There are mods you can do.
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>>54448552
Aperently its fixed in the latest batches, the most horrible ones were in the chinese windows only versions.

Also I think it is because Winblows 10 just fucking sucks at tablets, probably gonna install PheonixOS in this one.

Ive been looking for a bluetooth keyboard + mouse, what should I get?

Logitech stuff seems cool like K480, K400 Plus and M187.

what should I get?
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>>54448552
It's fairly easy to do a good enough cooling mod on these things. Most of the chinese brands just use a cooling pad between the die and the alu plate. If you replace the pad with a 0.5/1mm copper shim it improves performance markedly. I did it on my coreM tablet and it reduced load temps by 15deg and it never thermally throttles now, just power throttles because I'm also undervolting it hugely.
>>
anyone used the Dell inspiron series before?
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>>54449498
You mean Venue Pro?
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>>54446061
don't use sd card on it really, but yeah forgot about the light-ish keyboard

when i'm sitting the hinge is usually on my hip
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>>54446071
>Do people making purchases

>that don't affect you

>really upset
>you

>this much, or do

>you

>need to fill out your meme quota?

How standard do you think your English is, anon?
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>>54447502
this shit right here is the reason why I stopped browsing /g/ for a while
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Posting from an old Samsung Galaxy Note 8. This tablet is now my "main computer" due to my being broke. It's rooted and my SD card is crammed with thousands of documents, music, comics and movie films, I use it for taking handwritten notes at work (OneNote is great for this) as well as pretty much all my electronic entertainment needs, it makes a great Nintendo DS emulator as well.

Android tablets are underrated. A 64GB iPad would've cost nearly twice as much as this and be far less versatile.
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>>54450634
Crippling sarcasm?
>>
I was interested in the Surface line of products.
Got an X220t instead, threw in a new battery, more RAM, and an SSD.
I love it, works great. I have plenty of money, but if I had spent $2k+ on the surface book I think I'd have felt like a fool. And, if I spent $400 on a SP2, I might have always been think 'could it have been better if I spent a few hundred more on SP3', and then SP4 comes out and I feel sad, etc.
Instead, I got a great product that I am very happy with. Maybe a surface book 2 in a decade, who knows. Too bad Lenovo didn't carry on with the X series tablets.
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>>54443961
you summarised it well.

I wanted to get one for reading and taking notes though
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>>54451097
Note 10.1 2014
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>>54444073
That's why I want a Surface Pro 4. I'm also going to be a lot of travelling soon, but I want to be able to work on art on planes and etc. Have you used Paint Tool Sai with it?
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>>54450532
Are you having a stroke or just getting upset because someone pointed out your crippling self doubt?
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>>54444688
Yeah, that's true. Their desktop components are still a little shoddy last time I tried them though.
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>>54439684
>>54439687
>>54442244
>>54444585
>>54444585


SP3 owner here. For what is otherwise a great machine, it has some serious thermal issues. Dont even both with a SP3 i5 or i7, it will just throttle down to 1.1ghz due to extremely poor thermal issues.

Since then, the sp4 uses a hybrid liquid thermal system combined with the newer gen cpu architecture beign smaller using less power and icnreasing performance means its far superior to SP3
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>>54451773
The fan on my SP3 never spins up unless I'm playing a game or using too many tabs on Chrome
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>>54439660
thanks, this is what i'm looking for

i fucking wish quivi have a touch support...
oh well
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>>54444655
>improve the heatsink
is there a tutorial of this somewhere? im getting sick of the throttling
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>>54444320
>>54445038
>iwork11 (10.6") = $250
>i7 stylus (10.6") = $350
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>>54452316
both have 4GB ram btw
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>>54450640
as a man on a really thigh budget, how much will you recommend it from 1 to 10, and if you know about a tablet similar to it what would it be?
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Guys i don't know anything about tablets. I just want a decent sized screen so i can watch movies and anime. Good enough that shit like wikipedia wont fucking crash like on my phone.

Is the amazon fire any good? They also apparently have a special on the Fire HD 6 so what about that?

pls halp me im stoopid
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>>54452805
Also I don't really want to exceed 80 Ameribux but I'm open to suggestions
>>
Do I buy Asus T100HA for gaming on the plane? Thanks men.
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Guys, I need a tablet for college. I want a big fuck of a screen (~12 inches) and I need at least an i5 and 8g of ram in it. I also need an accurate pen-like stylus. I was looking at the $1750 surface book because of the 256gb ssd and the Nvidia gpu for muh gaymes. Anyway, is there anything comparable?
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>>54452805
Amazon's tablets are terrible for general usage. Barnes and Noble's were great before samsung took over manufacturing them.

Find yourself a cheap chinese tablet on banggood or gearbest
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>>54453149
Well you're the first person I've seen a completely negative response to Amazon tablets. Shit, back to square one
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>>54453205
Just get an Atom powered chink tablet for $100
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>>54453233
http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_343663.html

What about this?
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>>54453457
Go for it
>>
Newfag to tablets here

I'm looking for a tablet with the keyboard thing. I want to use it for YouTube, PDF stuff, researching and reading, and good internet capabilities with USB ports if I have to transfer data to a hard source

Any suggestions?
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>>54453767

Oh and one that can do word processing
>>
Tab pro 8.4 here. Im still actively trying to find a better tablet as I having an itch to upgrade, but there's nothing that can match it. Here's everything I like:

-flash on back to use as flashlight
-best cm support next to a Nexus tablet
-nicely calibrated 1440p screen that isn't pentile
-ir blaster, SD slot, and mhl, IE any feature you could possibly want
-off screen navigation buttons
-snapdragon 800, IE last CPU released before large diminishing returns
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>>54453767
>>54453776
Surface 3
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>>54452316
huh, I dismissed both because I thought they had 256 pressure levels, was actually 1024 now that I look.
Pleasant surprise because it makes the SP4 almost completely obsolete since they both get Wacom digitizers instead of that Nigger-trig shit. Might consider one for the future
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>>54454840
Ntrig has less parallax than Wacom
>b-b-but muh pressure levels
You're not designing a fucking billboard

And the SP4 does have 1024 pressure levels you nigger
>>
I have a Lenovo Yoga Tablet 2 Pro. It's quite good.
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>>54437748
>>54438212
I got the Chuwi Hi10 recently for $200 CAD. It can do pretty much everything I do with my beast desktop except 3d vidya and having a DVI-D port for my korean IPS.

Chrome is an unoptimized piece of shit for Youtube videos, ironically. 4k 60fps videos run great on Edge while a 1080p 60fps chokes Chrome.
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>>54455050
>Chrome is an unoptimized piece of shit for Youtube videos, ironically. 4k 60fps videos run great on Edge while a 1080p 60fps chokes Chrome.

I noticed this as well. What the fuck, Google?
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>>54453457
I got the Windows 10 only version for my mom. It's heavy and the speaker is shit and is not very loud, but VLC at 200% can fix that. The screen is beautiful and Windows 10 doesn't lag too much with 2gb of ram, unless you leave a lot of shit open. She likes it.

I got the hi10 for myself, same performance with more resolution and more ram.
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